[Histonet] Hydrating Frozen Tissues embedded in OCT for Sectioning

2012-02-27 Thread Kasai, Miki (NIH/NCI) [E]
We are trouble-shooting cryosectioning mouse lung tissue.  Often the lung
section tears or breaks apart during sectioning.  In the past, if the lung
section is proving difficult to section, we take the OCT-embedded tissue and
re-embed it back into OCT (basically put fresh OCT into the original mold
and then place the OCT block with the tissue back into the mold such that
the exposed tissue is covered back with OCT).  This is then placed back in
our -80°C.  When sectioning the next day, the tissue is often easier to
section.

One person in our lab tried to resolve the problem by brushing a little bit
of sterile water onto the tissue when sectioning.  This appeared to hydrate
the tissue and it sectioned better.  However, we weren't sure if this was a
good idea or not.  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

For background purposes our lung tissue are processed several ways:

1.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, tissue extracted from mouse, placed in
PFA/sucrose for several hours and then embedded in OCT.

2.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, inflated gently with OCT/PBS (3:1), placed
in PFA/sucrose for several hours and then embedded in OCT.

3.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, inflated gently with OCT/PBS (3:1),
embedded in OCT and frozen by immersion into liquid nitrogen (just the
bottom half of the mold is lowered into LN).

Much appreciation,
Miki Kasai
Biologist
Pediatric Oncology Branch
NCI, NIH
CRC, 1W Rm. 1-3-888
10 Center Drive
Bethesda, MD  20892
(301) 496-2318


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Re: [Histonet] Hydrating Frozen Tissues embedded in OCT for Sectioning

2012-02-27 Thread Kim Merriam
As long as you don't need to use them for RNA analysis, the easiest thing to do 
is just rub your finger (without glove) across the block (very briefly) and 
then take the section.  This will probably do the trick and hydrate it just 
enough to make a difference.
 
Kim

Kim Merriam, MA, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Cambridge, MA



From: Kasai, Miki (NIH/NCI) [E] kas...@mail.nih.gov
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:34 PM
Subject: [Histonet] Hydrating Frozen Tissues embedded in OCT for Sectioning

We are trouble-shooting cryosectioning mouse lung tissue.  Often the lung
section tears or breaks apart during sectioning.  In the past, if the lung
section is proving difficult to section, we take the OCT-embedded tissue and
re-embed it back into OCT (basically put fresh OCT into the original mold
and then place the OCT block with the tissue back into the mold such that
the exposed tissue is covered back with OCT).  This is then placed back in
our -80°C.  When sectioning the next day, the tissue is often easier to
section.

One person in our lab tried to resolve the problem by brushing a little bit
of sterile water onto the tissue when sectioning.  This appeared to hydrate
the tissue and it sectioned better.  However, we weren't sure if this was a
good idea or not.  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

For background purposes our lung tissue are processed several ways:

1.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, tissue extracted from mouse, placed in
PFA/sucrose for several hours and then embedded in OCT.

2.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, inflated gently with OCT/PBS (3:1), placed
in PFA/sucrose for several hours and then embedded in OCT.

3.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, inflated gently with OCT/PBS (3:1),
embedded in OCT and frozen by immersion into liquid nitrogen (just the
bottom half of the mold is lowered into LN).

Much appreciation,
Miki Kasai
Biologist
Pediatric Oncology Branch
NCI, NIH
CRC, 1W Rm. 1-3-888
10 Center Drive
Bethesda, MD  20892
(301) 496-2318


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Re: [Histonet] Hydrating Frozen Tissues embedded in OCT for Sectioning

2012-02-27 Thread Kim Merriam
Also, make sure that the block sits in the cryostat for a while to acclimate to 
the temperature.  The cutting temp for lung (correct me if I'm wrong here) is 
probably about -20; the block should be the same temperature as the cryostat.


Kim Merriam, MA, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Cambridge, MA



From: Colleen Forster cfors...@umn.edu
To: Kim Merriam kmerriam2...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Hydrating Frozen Tissues embedded in OCT for Sectioning

Yep, the sample is too cold. Rubbing your finger across even with a 
glove (just linger a bit longer) will help alot.

Colleen Forster

U of MN


On 2/27/2012 12:47 PM, Kim Merriam wrote:
 As long as you don't need to use them for RNA analysis, the easiest thing to 
 do is just rub your finger (without glove) across the block (very briefly) 
 and then take the section.  This will probably do the trick and hydrate it 
 just enough to make a difference.
  
 Kim

 Kim Merriam, MA, HT(ASCP)QIHC
 Cambridge, MA


 
 From: Kasai, Miki (NIH/NCI) [E]kas...@mail.nih.gov
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 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:34 PM
 Subject: [Histonet] Hydrating Frozen Tissues embedded in OCT for Sectioning

 We are trouble-shooting cryosectioning mouse lung tissue.  Often the lung
 section tears or breaks apart during sectioning.  In the past, if the lung
 section is proving difficult to section, we take the OCT-embedded tissue and
 re-embed it back into OCT (basically put fresh OCT into the original mold
 and then place the OCT block with the tissue back into the mold such that
 the exposed tissue is covered back with OCT).  This is then placed back in
 our -80°C.  When sectioning the next day, the tissue is often easier to
 section.

 One person in our lab tried to resolve the problem by brushing a little bit
 of sterile water onto the tissue when sectioning.  This appeared to hydrate
 the tissue and it sectioned better.  However, we weren't sure if this was a
 good idea or not.  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

 For background purposes our lung tissue are processed several ways:

 1.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, tissue extracted from mouse, placed in
 PFA/sucrose for several hours and then embedded in OCT.

 2.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, inflated gently with OCT/PBS (3:1), placed
 in PFA/sucrose for several hours and then embedded in OCT.

 3.  Lungs are perfused with PBS, inflated gently with OCT/PBS (3:1),
 embedded in OCT and frozen by immersion into liquid nitrogen (just the
 bottom half of the mold is lowered into LN).

 Much appreciation,
 Miki Kasai
 Biologist
 Pediatric Oncology Branch
 NCI, NIH
 CRC, 1W Rm. 1-3-888
 10 Center Drive
 Bethesda, MD  20892
 (301) 496-2318


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