[Histonet] IHC turnaround time
Dawn, I'd say 12-5 is a good TAT for any lab. Same day TAT is excellent. Maybe they don't want to stay late to ready the slides? We do 250 - 300/day, 5-6,000/month but we have extended working hours. We cut recuts from 11pm thru to 3pm and start loading the Bond and Ventana at 4am. Then they get loaded continuously until about 4pm. We'll do overnight if necessary. This and linking our stainers to our LIS through barcodes greatly reduced TAT. Just the linkage saved us a couple working hours per day in data entry into the stainers - now it is all entered automatically by the system. When the stainer scans the slide it links to the order and fills in all the info. At least for the Bond. Ventana is not as clean. The order information is sent to the stainer, but because they insist on using their own barcode so it takes double labeling for their system. But we do 85% on the Bonds Our TAT went from up to 36 hours down to about 5 hours average. We get some done in 3 hours just due to the stain being ordered and us picking it up and cutting right away. The pathologists don't complain at all anymore. In fact they were kind of incredulous when they would order in the late morning and get it in the afternoon, or order in the late afternoon and it would be in their mailbox when they came in the next morning. BTW, for the direct work on the stainer it takes only 2 FTE (two shifts). Counting the recuts people it is another 1.5 FTE, and counting the distribution person it is one more FTE. So about 4.5 total FTE for cutting, staining, and slide distribution. Tim Morken Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center Histonet] IHC turnaround time<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu&q=subject:%22%5C%5BHistonet%5C%5D+IHC+turnaround+time%22&o=newest> Olszewski, Dawn<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu&q=from:%22Olszewski%2C+Dawn%22> Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:11:44 -0700<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu&q=date:20150619> Hi Histonetters, 6-19-15 We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for other labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds up to 50 slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open rack. All IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by 5pm. We average 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying to determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from time order placed to time of slide delivery. If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may be able to provide. Thank you in advance, Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time
We have 2 FTEs in IHC; myself as one of two people that started the lab 20+ years ago and 2 histotechs that rotate through on a weekly basis. Our monthly totals currently run between 2400 and 3300. Our TAT policy is "in by noon, out by 5pm" except for dual and triple stains (need to be on an instrument by 11:00 am) and EBER (needs to be on by ~ 9:00 am) and HER2 dual ISH (only run overnight). We have 4 Roche (Ventana) Ultras that hold 30 slides each and are continuous access. All instruments are used every day and at least one (usually 2 or 3) in use overnight. Linda Linda A. Sebree University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics IHC/ISH Laboratory, Rm A4/204-3224 600 Highland Ave. Madison, WI 53792 (608)265-6596 FAX: (608)262-7174 -Original Message- From: Cartun, Richard [mailto:richard.car...@hhchealth.org] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:21 AM To: Olszewski, Dawn; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time I direct a busy and very efficient (I think) IHC lab staffed with 2.875 FTEs who spend most of their time doing IHC, but they also help Histology embed and cut paraffin blocks when needed (which is most days). For 2015 we are averaging 4,022 IHC patient test slides and 1,650 IHC control slides per month. Our IHC lab is staffed from 4:30 AM to 6 PM (or later depending on workload). We have 5 Leica Bond Max platforms; however, we still do some IHCs on the bench. We usually do 2-3 runs per day and an overnight run (except on Fridays) as well. Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 972-1596 (860) 545-2204 Fax -Original Message- From: Olszewski, Dawn [mailto:dawn.olszew...@sgmc.org] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:53 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time Hi Histonetters, 6-19-15 We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for other labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds up to 50 slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open rack. All IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by 5pm. We average 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying to determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from time order placed to time of slide delivery. If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may be able to provide. Thank you in advance, Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including any attachments. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time
I agree Jay. We have the same TAT policy and it's "kick ass" every single day to achieve this with never enough time to cut controls, check out new lots, bring on new antibodies, etc. Our staffing situation will need to change pretty soon, especially as I look towards retirement :). Linda A. Sebree University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics IHC/ISH Laboratory, Rm A4/204-3224 600 Highland Ave. Madison, WI 53792 (608)265-6596 FAX: (608)262-7174 -Original Message- From: Jay Lundgren [mailto:jaylundg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:04 PM To: STEVEN PINHEIRO Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Olszewski, Dawn Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time Let me get this straight, Dawn. You are running "In by 12, out by 5." on IHCs and your pathologist is* complaining*? A 5 hour TAT is awesome! Most places I've worked (and I've seen a lot in 16 years as a traveling tech) have at least a 24 hour TAT for IHC. I've got to get a shirt to the cleaners before 9 to get it back by 5! Which is more complex, washing a shirt, or doing IHC on human tissue?! Sincerely, Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP) On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:54 AM, STEVEN PINHEIRO wrote: > Dawn, > TAT has many variables. We run mostly Leica Bond platforms, but do > have some Ventana Benchmark access if needed. The average volume here > about 125 slides a day. The available time is directly dependent or order > protocols. > If the order is available before 11 am, the slides will be available > mid to late afternoon the same day. If the order is created between 11 > am and 4 pm, the slides will be available late that same evening (but > usually not reviewed by pathology until the next morning). Order > placed after 4 pm are variable and may make the evening run but will > most likely not be run until the next day. We do not have an overnight run. > > Steve Pinheiro > 708-327-2642 > > > -Original Message- > From: Olszewski, Dawn [mailto:dawn.olszew...@sgmc.org] > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:53 AM > To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time > > Hi Histonetters, > > 6-19-15 > > We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for > other labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds > up to 50 slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open > rack. All IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by > 5pm. We average > 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. > > A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying > to determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from > time order placed to time of slide delivery. > > If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and > average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may > be able to provide. > > Thank you in advance, > > Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > > Confidentiality Notice: > This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Trinity > Health and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). > It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and > reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. > > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time
Let me get this straight, Dawn. You are running "In by 12, out by 5." on IHCs and your pathologist is* complaining*? A 5 hour TAT is awesome! Most places I've worked (and I've seen a lot in 16 years as a traveling tech) have at least a 24 hour TAT for IHC. I've got to get a shirt to the cleaners before 9 to get it back by 5! Which is more complex, washing a shirt, or doing IHC on human tissue?! Sincerely, Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP) On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:54 AM, STEVEN PINHEIRO wrote: > Dawn, > TAT has many variables. We run mostly Leica Bond platforms, but do have > some Ventana Benchmark access if needed. The average volume here about 125 > slides a day. The available time is directly dependent or order protocols. > If the order is available before 11 am, the slides will be available mid to > late afternoon the same day. If the order is created between 11 am and 4 > pm, the slides will be available late that same evening (but usually not > reviewed by pathology until the next morning). Order placed after 4 pm are > variable and may make the evening run but will most likely not be run until > the next day. We do not have an overnight run. > > Steve Pinheiro > 708-327-2642 > > > -Original Message- > From: Olszewski, Dawn [mailto:dawn.olszew...@sgmc.org] > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:53 AM > To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > Subject: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time > > Hi Histonetters, > > 6-19-15 > > We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for other > labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds up to 50 > slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open rack. All > IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by 5pm. We average > 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. > > A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying to > determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from time > order placed to time of slide delivery. > > If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and > average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may be > able to provide. > > Thank you in advance, > > Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > > Confidentiality Notice: > This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Trinity Health > and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may > contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender > regarding the error in a separate email. > > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time
Dawn, TAT has many variables. We run mostly Leica Bond platforms, but do have some Ventana Benchmark access if needed. The average volume here about 125 slides a day. The available time is directly dependent or order protocols. If the order is available before 11 am, the slides will be available mid to late afternoon the same day. If the order is created between 11 am and 4 pm, the slides will be available late that same evening (but usually not reviewed by pathology until the next morning). Order placed after 4 pm are variable and may make the evening run but will most likely not be run until the next day. We do not have an overnight run. Steve Pinheiro 708-327-2642 -Original Message- From: Olszewski, Dawn [mailto:dawn.olszew...@sgmc.org] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:53 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time Hi Histonetters, 6-19-15 We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for other labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds up to 50 slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open rack. All IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by 5pm. We average 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying to determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from time order placed to time of slide delivery. If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may be able to provide. Thank you in advance, Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Trinity Health and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time
TAT is variable but, as a rule, IF the case is slotted for IHC testing the slides will be delivered along with the H&E early next day (if received after 4PM) or by late afternoon the same day (if received before 10AM)René On Friday, June 19, 2015 11:11 AM, "Olszewski, Dawn" wrote: Hi Histonetters, 6-19-15 We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for other labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds up to 50 slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open rack. All IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by 5pm. We average 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying to determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from time order placed to time of slide delivery. If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may be able to provide. Thank you in advance, Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time
I direct a busy and very efficient (I think) IHC lab staffed with 2.875 FTEs who spend most of their time doing IHC, but they also help Histology embed and cut paraffin blocks when needed (which is most days). For 2015 we are averaging 4,022 IHC patient test slides and 1,650 IHC control slides per month. Our IHC lab is staffed from 4:30 AM to 6 PM (or later depending on workload). We have 5 Leica Bond Max platforms; however, we still do some IHCs on the bench. We usually do 2-3 runs per day and an overnight run (except on Fridays) as well. Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 972-1596 (860) 545-2204 Fax -Original Message- From: Olszewski, Dawn [mailto:dawn.olszew...@sgmc.org] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:53 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time Hi Histonetters, 6-19-15 We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for other labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds up to 50 slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open rack. All IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by 5pm. We average 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying to determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from time order placed to time of slide delivery. If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may be able to provide. Thank you in advance, Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message, including any attachments. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
[Histonet] IHC turnaround time
Hi Histonetters, 6-19-15 We are wondering what the average turnaround times for IHC are for other labs. We use the Biocare Intellipath instrumentation. It holds up to 50 slides ( 10 slides per 5 racks) with continuous feed per open rack. All IHC orders placed by 12pm are usually out the same day by 5pm. We average 434 IHC slides per month and have a staff of 3 FTE's. A pathologist has voiced concerns over our IHC output. We are trying to determine "best practices" for IHC turnaround time as measured from time order placed to time of slide delivery. If you could respond with your IHC TAT including number of techs and average of IHC slides monthly, we would appreciate any input you may be able to provide. Thank you in advance, Dawn Olszewski, HTL(ASCP)QIHC ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] IHC turnaround time
In less than 8 hours I can get 96 Ihc stains done with our dako link and that is two runs Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:15 PM, "McKenzie, Emily" wrote: > Hello all, > I am currently working on a Six Sigma Green Belt project and am looking for > some data. Can any one give me their general turnaround times for IHC, from > time of order to time of delivery? > Thanks for all your help with this, > > Emily K. McKenzie BS, HT(ASCP) > > Memorial Medical Center│701 North First Street│Springfield, IL 62781 > Ph: 217-788-3991│email: mckenzie.em...@mhsil.com > > > > > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information > intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If > you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any > disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any > action based on it, is strictly prohibited. > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
[Histonet] IHC turnaround time
Hello all, I am currently working on a Six Sigma Green Belt project and am looking for some data. Can any one give me their general turnaround times for IHC, from time of order to time of delivery? Thanks for all your help with this, Emily K. McKenzie BS, HT(ASCP) Memorial Medical Center│701 North First Street│Springfield, IL 62781 Ph: 217-788-3991│email: mckenzie.em...@mhsil.com This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
