[Histonet] RE: Her-2 antibody

2013-06-12 Thread Houston, Ronald
Never had any such problems with either the Max or the Bond IIIs in the 6+ 
years we have had them(no matter how many labels are on the slide - we have had 
three labels on a slide with no problems at all), unless of course your tissue 
extends to the rim of the covertile - then what would you expect?
You certainly do not need to have all 10 spaces filled on the tray. 
Suggest you contact Leica service as it seems as though your machine needs 
calibrated and realigned

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
Anatomic Pathology Manager
ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital
www.childlab.com

700 Children's Drive
Columbus, OH 43205
(P) 614-722-5450
(F) 614-722-2899
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
www.NationwideChildrens.org

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~ E.M. Forster



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:42 AM
To: Robert Fauck [CCDHB]; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Her-2 antibody

We have a Bond Max and run mainly ER/PR and ISH stains on that.  After Leica 
loaded in a new version of software in October we started having problems like 
that too.  Seems you have to have all 10 spots on the tray filled with a slide 
- doesn't have to be programed, just a slide and cover tile for the weight.  We 
also were doing a workaround with a Vantage label under the Leica label and 
found out that the two label thickness interferes with the movement of the 
cover tile (sometimes...but not always), which was affecting our staining.  
Even a regular slide label under the Leica label will cause a problem.  We 
finally have gone to entering a case, printing the labels but not putting them 
on the slides, cutting the sections and then putting the labels on the slide 
for positive patient identification.  Not ideal, and I worry a lot about case 
mix ups, but that is what is working to get consistent staining here.  As they 
say, The Enemy of Good is Better.  Wish Leica had not made it better!  It was 
working very nicely before.
Sue

Sue Hunter, Supervisor
Advanced Diagnostics
Beaumont Health System
Royal Oak MI
248-898-5146
shun...@beaumont.edu



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Fauck 
[CCDHB]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:05 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Her-2 antibody

Hi All
 
We here in wellington Hospital New Zealand having some problem with the
Her-2 ( Lieca, NCL-L-CBE-356 )
 
Top half of the slide ( control or Test tissue) are strongly positive but if we 
put the control tissue on the bottom half it is week to negative!
 
Does any one has the same problems with your Her-2, it is done on a Leica Bond 
(Max) III.
 
Much appreciated for any suggestions, also from Leica Technical specialists.
 
Regards,
Robert Fauck
Wellington hospital, NZ


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[Histonet] RE: Her-2 antibody

2013-06-12 Thread Sue Hunter
We have a Bond Max and run mainly ER/PR and ISH stains on that.  After Leica 
loaded in a new version of software in October we started having problems like 
that too.  Seems you have to have all 10 spots on the tray filled with a slide 
- doesn't have to be programed, just a slide and cover tile for the weight.  We 
also were doing a workaround with a Vantage label under the Leica label and 
found out that the two label thickness interferes with the movement of the 
cover tile (sometimes...but not always), which was affecting our staining.  
Even a regular slide label under the Leica label will cause a problem.  We 
finally have gone to entering a case, printing the labels but not putting them 
on the slides, cutting the sections and then putting the labels on the slide 
for positive patient identification.  Not ideal, and I worry a lot about case 
mix ups, but that is what is working to get consistent staining here.  As they 
say, The Enemy of Good is Better.  Wish Leica had not made it better!  It was 
working very nicely before.
Sue

Sue Hunter, Supervisor
Advanced Diagnostics
Beaumont Health System
Royal Oak MI
248-898-5146
shun...@beaumont.edu



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Fauck 
[CCDHB]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:05 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Her-2 antibody

Hi All
 
We here in wellington Hospital New Zealand having some problem with the
Her-2 ( Lieca, NCL-L-CBE-356 )
 
Top half of the slide ( control or Test tissue) are strongly positive but if we 
put the control tissue on the bottom half it is week to negative!
 
Does any one has the same problems with your Her-2, it is done on a Leica Bond 
(Max) III.
 
Much appreciated for any suggestions, also from Leica Technical specialists.
 
Regards,
Robert Fauck
Wellington hospital, NZ


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[Histonet] RE: Her-2 antibody

2013-06-12 Thread Sue Hunter
We have contacted Leica several times, had the machine calibrated/aligned many 
times, and that is what we have been told.  It seems to hold true as with only 
one label we have no problems.  Also, after the upgrade, we saw the problem a 
lot when we only ran one or two slides on a tray.  The magic number seems to be 
4 slides to get acceptable staining, but Leica suggests we load it up.   We had 
never had a problem until the upgrade in software.
Sue

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From: Houston, Ronald [mailto:ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:59 AM
To: Sue Hunter; Robert Fauck [CCDHB]; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Her-2 antibody

Never had any such problems with either the Max or the Bond IIIs in the 6+ 
years we have had them(no matter how many labels are on the slide - we have had 
three labels on a slide with no problems at all), unless of course your tissue 
extends to the rim of the covertile - then what would you expect?
You certainly do not need to have all 10 spaces filled on the tray. 
Suggest you contact Leica service as it seems as though your machine needs 
calibrated and realigned

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC
Anatomic Pathology Manager
ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital www.childlab.com

700 Children's Drive
Columbus, OH 43205
(P) 614-722-5450
(F) 614-722-2899
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
www.NationwideChildrens.org

One person with passion is better than forty people merely interested.
~ E.M. Forster



-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:42 AM
To: Robert Fauck [CCDHB]; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Her-2 antibody

We have a Bond Max and run mainly ER/PR and ISH stains on that.  After Leica 
loaded in a new version of software in October we started having problems like 
that too.  Seems you have to have all 10 spots on the tray filled with a slide 
- doesn't have to be programed, just a slide and cover tile for the weight.  We 
also were doing a workaround with a Vantage label under the Leica label and 
found out that the two label thickness interferes with the movement of the 
cover tile (sometimes...but not always), which was affecting our staining.  
Even a regular slide label under the Leica label will cause a problem.  We 
finally have gone to entering a case, printing the labels but not putting them 
on the slides, cutting the sections and then putting the labels on the slide 
for positive patient identification.  Not ideal, and I worry a lot about case 
mix ups, but that is what is working to get consistent staining here.  As they 
say, The Enemy of Good is Better.  Wish Leica had not made it better!  It was 
working very nicely before.
Sue

Sue Hunter, Supervisor
Advanced Diagnostics
Beaumont Health System
Royal Oak MI
248-898-5146
shun...@beaumont.edu



-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Fauck 
[CCDHB]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:05 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Her-2 antibody

Hi All
 
We here in wellington Hospital New Zealand having some problem with the
Her-2 ( Lieca, NCL-L-CBE-356 )
 
Top half of the slide ( control or Test tissue) are strongly positive but if we 
put the control tissue on the bottom half it is week to negative!
 
Does any one has the same problems with your Her-2, it is done on a Leica Bond 
(Max) III.
 
Much appreciated for any suggestions, also from Leica Technical specialists.
 
Regards,
Robert Fauck
Wellington hospital, NZ


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