[Histonet] RE: Number of blocks (Contact HistoCare)

2012-10-25 Thread Mayer,Toysha N
Another thing to consider is, is this averaged out over several hours or not.  
Sitting and cutting 50 blocks in one hour of time is a stretch, but if I 
average it out over 2-3 hours I can cut almost that many (40).  That would be 
multiple types of tissues and varying number of sections, but not just time 
myself and cut for one hour and stop.  Also think of how long it takes to trim 
those blocks. 
While the 40-50 number is high, look at how many are cut over time, it should 
average out as 30+ per hour.  

Toysha Mayer




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Hi,

To most folks that number does seem high but I've met many old school techs who 
can do this easily. One of my first learning experiences was watching a 57 year 
old woman crank out tons of slides with no errors and who regularly got praises 
from the pathologists for producing the most beautiful slides.

While I have never been required to produce a certain amount within a certain 
window, I have built up the ability to cut a lot more than 50 per hour. I have 
even doubled this number. Of course it depends on the tissue type, but assuming 
properly decalcified bone, nothing popping out of the block, and a cold block 
of ice, it's very easy for me to produce a high quality slide at 3,4,5 microns. 
I get compliments all the time of my slides.

My methods are quite different from most techs though. When facing, I don't 
waste movements. I actually count the rotations and spend less than 8 seconds 
facing each block. I also get the right section usually in about the third or 
fourth crank and I only put at the most two sections in the water bath to pick 
up. 

I don't cut unnecessary ribbons just to have them sit in the water bath and 
eventually have to wipe away with the Kimwipe, which in my opinion is wasteful 
of both materials and time. I also make sure I have enough ice to keep the 
blocks very cold and adequately hydrated.

I'm not sure if being in decent physical shape matters but I think it gives me 
the arm stamina to do this. I use only my wrists and fingers and not my whole 
arm in the rotational motion.

Hope this helps,


M


www.HistoCare.com



 From: Dorothy Ragland-Glass techman...@yahoo.com
 To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:38 AM
 Subject: [Histonet] Number of blocks
 
 It was annouced by a histo lab manager that techs are expected to cut 40-50 
 blocks per hour. That seems to me to be rather high. I don't see quality 
 slides being turned out. It is quantity and profit above patient care. I am 
 old school, and I remember something about quality and patient first. 
 Besides  what kind of impact on morality of the techs, back problems and 
 carpal tunnel syndrom is laying ahead for the cutter after cranking the 
 microtome repeatedly that many blocks without a break.
 



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You mention how many rotations you use for facing your blocks. That assumes 
whoever did the embedding did a good job.  And even with no unnecessary 
ribbons.whether there are extra sections or not, you still have to keep the 
water bath scrupulously clean which means wiping out with a Kimwipe after each 
block...whether there are ribbons floating or not.

Jeanine H. Bartlett
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
404-639-3590
jeanine.bartl...@cdc.hhs.gov



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Re: [Histonet] RE: Number of blocks (Contact HistoCare)

2012-10-25 Thread Davide Costanzo
Does anyone want a tech cutting 40 blocks per hour? You can't have
quality at that rate.

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On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Mayer,Toysha N tnma...@mdanderson.org wrote:

 Another thing to consider is, is this averaged out over several hours or not. 
  Sitting and cutting 50 blocks in one hour of time is a stretch, but if I 
 average it out over 2-3 hours I can cut almost that many (40).  That would be 
 multiple types of tissues and varying number of sections, but not just time 
 myself and cut for one hour and stop.  Also think of how long it takes to 
 trim those blocks.
 While the 40-50 number is high, look at how many are cut over time, it should 
 average out as 30+ per hour.

 Toysha Mayer




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 Hi,

 To most folks that number does seem high but I've met many old school techs 
 who can do this easily. One of my first learning experiences was watching a 
 57 year old woman crank out tons of slides with no errors and who regularly 
 got praises from the pathologists for producing the most beautiful slides.

 While I have never been required to produce a certain amount within a certain 
 window, I have built up the ability to cut a lot more than 50 per hour. I 
 have even doubled this number. Of course it depends on the tissue type, but 
 assuming properly decalcified bone, nothing popping out of the block, and a 
 cold block of ice, it's very easy for me to produce a high quality slide at 
 3,4,5 microns. I get compliments all the time of my slides.

 My methods are quite different from most techs though. When facing, I don't 
 waste movements. I actually count the rotations and spend less than 8 seconds 
 facing each block. I also get the right section usually in about the third or 
 fourth crank and I only put at the most two sections in the water bath to 
 pick up.

 I don't cut unnecessary ribbons just to have them sit in the water bath and 
 eventually have to wipe away with the Kimwipe, which in my opinion is 
 wasteful of both materials and time. I also make sure I have enough ice to 
 keep the blocks very cold and adequately hydrated.

 I'm not sure if being in decent physical shape matters but I think it gives 
 me the arm stamina to do this. I use only my wrists and fingers and not my 
 whole arm in the rotational motion.

 Hope this helps,


 M


 www.HistoCare.com



 From: Dorothy Ragland-Glass techman...@yahoo.com
 To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:38 AM
 Subject: [Histonet] Number of blocks

 It was annouced by a histo lab manager that techs are expected to cut 
 40-50 blocks per hour. That seems to me to be rather high. I don't see 
 quality slides being turned out. It is quantity and profit above patient 
 care. I am old school, and I remember something about quality and patient 
 first. Besides  what kind of impact on morality of the techs, back 
 problems and carpal tunnel syndrom is laying ahead for the cutter after 
 cranking the microtome repeatedly that many blocks without a break.



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 You mention how many rotations you use for facing your blocks. That assumes 
 whoever did the embedding did a good job.  And even with no unnecessary 
 ribbons.whether there are extra sections or not, you still have to keep 
 the water bath scrupulously clean which means wiping out with a Kimwipe after 
 each block...whether there are ribbons floating or not.

 Jeanine H. Bartlett
 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Infectious Diseases Pathology 
 Branch
 404-639-3590
 jeanine.bartl...@cdc.hhs.gov



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