[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-05 Thread Huggins, Haley - MRMC
We are finally recognized and it is for this. So sad :(

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
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Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
One!!!



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html



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[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-04 Thread Elizabeth Cameron
I know the potential for damage to your health is huge in histology, but are 
there any studies out there that indicate histotechs are less healthy than the 
average person?

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ingles Claire
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 7:06 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link


Old Histologists never die, they're just well fixed...
Claire

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Morken, Timothy 
[timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:22 AM
To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! (from 
an old Georgia Society hand).

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San 
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  
I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, 
in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned.

Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!

Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link


Great. Just what we need.


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San 
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
One!!!



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html



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Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-04 Thread wsimons
I agree!  
If everyone adheres to safe practices we will make it into our golden years.
Let's bring back our NSH health studies~  Vivian McClure would love for us to 
continue the studies.
Mike Ayers and Shirley Powell have been my mentors through the years (36 plus 
years for me)
Thank you Mike,Shirley, and Billie Swisherand all my NSH angels that 
paved the way for us HistoKids

Now everyone take a walk and get a breath of fresh air~

Wanda
The Original HistoKid


  ---Original Message---
  From: Ingles Claire cing...@uwhealth.org
  To: Histonet histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
  Sent: Dec 03 '13 19:05
  
  
  Old Histologists never die, they're just well fixed...
  Claire
  
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of 
Morken, Timothy [timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:22 AM
  To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; Histonet
  Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
  
  Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! 
 (from an old Georgia Society hand).
  
  Tim Morken
  Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
  UC San Francisco Medical Center
  San Francisco, CA
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf 
Of Shirley A. Powell
  Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
  To: Histonet
  Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link
  
  When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
 histotechs was 20 years from 
hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  I have been doing this 51 
years, so maybe good laboratory 
practices can help, in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers 
mentioned.
  
  Shirley Powell
  Antique Histotech
  
  -Original Message-
  From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf 
Of Paula Pierce
  Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
  To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
  Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
  
  Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!
  
  With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!
  
  
  
  
  And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
  
  Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
  President
  Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
  5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
  Norman, OK 73069
  405-759-3953 Lab
  405-759-7513 Fax
  www.excaliburpathology.com
  
  
  
  From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
  To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
(histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
  Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
  
  
  Great. Just what we need.
  
  
  Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 
 6] * 3H 2 O since we know that 
suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For instance, I'll have to 
say that the histo lab here is wonderful in 
that it has such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the 
usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, 
specials chemicals that often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that 
come here are amazed.
  
  Tim Morken
  Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
  UC San Francisco Medical Center
  San Francisco, CA
  
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Of Mike Tighe
  Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
  Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link
  
  Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
 One!!!
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-04 Thread Lee Peggy Wenk

Couple of studies that I know of.

One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH 
Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to 
participate. Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs 
had lower pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, 
equilibrium and dexterity than the general population.


In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers 
of participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing 
people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and 
had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how 
much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I 
didn't participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was 
medium, someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low 
amount and someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would 
say therefore the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed 
to formaldehyde. But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due 
another chemical, or due to the fact that at the same time, people were 
smoking in the lab I was working in, which was a small space.


Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy 
outcomes following gestational exposure to organic solvents. They interview 
women who were pregnant and working with organic solvent, so painters for 
example, so not histotechs only. They compared them to women of same age, 
same number of children, similar profession not exposed to organic solvents. 
They found that if the exposed women were having symptoms (breathing 
problems, rashes), they had a higher percentage of miscarriages and babies 
with deformities. If there were no symptoms, they had the same, and even 
lower, percentages than comparable women giving birth who were not exposed.


What histology needs is something like the nursing organization in the US 
has been doing for over 40 years. Everyone who is a member of the nursing 
society is sent a survey (I think every year), and asked to have physicals 
information released from their doctors to the organization (It's voluntary 
to participate). But they have 40+ years of data from hundred of thousands 
of women, of all ages. They can mine a wealth of medical data from this.


NSH (and ASCP) may not have enough histotechs in their organization to pay 
for the type of survey needed, to continue on for decades. We would need 
supervisors and bench techs to participate for decades. And probably have to 
mail them several formaldehyde and xylene monitors every year, or every 
couple of years, to collect real numbers of how much people were exposed to. 
And the surveys were pages and pages long (my mother was a nurse who 
participated from the beginning, so I've seen them), and asked lots of 
questions about health and diet and smoking and personal issues, in addition 
to questions about what types of chemical we work with an how much and how 
often. And how do we measure ventilation in all these places of work?


I hope someone comes up with some studies that can help us figure out if 
histotechs are being exposed to enough chemicals that could be causing these 
different diseases in humans. There are animal studies, but not human.


And remember, people in general, including histotechs, are living longer. If 
we live longer, we are more likely to have chronic diseases like diabetes, 
COPD, and cancer. We need to know which cancers are caused by which levels 
of formaldehyde or organic solvents, vs., say, breast cancer and prostate 
cancer just because we are women or men.


Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS

-Original Message- 
From: Elizabeth Cameron

Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I know the potential for damage to your health is huge in histology, but are 
there any studies out there that indicate histotechs are less healthy than 
the average person?


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ingles 
Claire

Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 7:06 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link


Old Histologists never die, they're just well fixed...
Claire

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Morken, Timothy 
[timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org]

Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:22 AM
To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! 
(from an old Georgia Society hand).


Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San 
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA



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RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-04 Thread Horn, Hazel V
I remember participating in the health study in the 80's.   Xylene and 
Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs.  If our hospitals/research 
centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could 
compile data it would be a starting place for a health study.

I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health.  I can name at 
least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer.  Yes, it may have been when they 
were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in 
histology before safety became a priority.   I know others will remember no 
ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, 
etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed 
through lack of knowledge.

I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we 
take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity.  

Hazel Horn
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription
Anatomic Pathology
Arkansas Children's Hospital
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax
hor...@archildrens.org
archildrens.org






-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee  Peggy Wenk
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM
To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Couple of studies that I know of.

One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH 
Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. 
Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower 
pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium 
and dexterity than the general population.

In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of 
participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing 
people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and 
had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how 
much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't 
participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, 
someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and 
someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would say therefore 
the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed to formaldehyde. 
But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due another chemical, or 
due to the fact that at the same time, people were smoking in the lab I was 
working in, which was a small space.

Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy 
outcomes following gestational exposure to organic solvents. They interview 
women who were pregnant and working with organic solvent, so painters for 
example, so not histotechs only. They compared them to women of same age, same 
number of children, similar profession not exposed to organic solvents. 
They found that if the exposed women were having symptoms (breathing problems, 
rashes), they had a higher percentage of miscarriages and babies with 
deformities. If there were no symptoms, they had the same, and even lower, 
percentages than comparable women giving birth who were not exposed.

What histology needs is something like the nursing organization in the US has 
been doing for over 40 years. Everyone who is a member of the nursing society 
is sent a survey (I think every year), and asked to have physicals information 
released from their doctors to the organization (It's voluntary to 
participate). But they have 40+ years of data from hundred of thousands of 
women, of all ages. They can mine a wealth of medical data from this.

NSH (and ASCP) may not have enough histotechs in their organization to pay for 
the type of survey needed, to continue on for decades. We would need 
supervisors and bench techs to participate for decades. And probably have to 
mail them several formaldehyde and xylene monitors every year, or every couple 
of years, to collect real numbers of how much people were exposed to. 
And the surveys were pages and pages long (my mother was a nurse who 
participated from the beginning, so I've seen them), and asked lots of 
questions about health and diet and smoking and personal issues, in addition to 
questions about what types of chemical we work with an how much and how often. 
And how do we measure ventilation in all these places of work?

I hope someone comes up with some studies that can help us figure out if 
histotechs are being exposed to enough chemicals that could be causing these 
different diseases in humans. There are animal studies, but not human.

And remember, people in general, including histotechs, are living longer. If we 
live longer, we are more likely to have chronic diseases like

Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-04 Thread Pam Marcum


I remember the study and some fairly important people in NSH at the time 
thinking it was a little overblown.  It was not followed up on at the time just 
a report in JOH and done.  I have been in Histology many years (about 50) and 
like Hazel have seen many of the ones even older than us die of cancer or organ 
failure.  Histology is safer than it has ever been however; I am not sure 
people really pay enough attention to the dangers with chemicals and tissue 
that is not well fixed.  



I remember people smoking in labs, eating (even in the autopsy suite) and 
having a cup of coffee or soda at the microtome.  One of my pathologists told 
us to clean paraffin off our hands with xylene like he did.  We have come a 
long way just not far enough.  



Pam Marcum 

- Original Message -
From: Hazel V Horn hor...@archildrens.org 
To: Lee  Peggy Wenk lpw...@sbcglobal.net, Elizabeth Cameron 
elizabeth.came...@jax.org, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:52:13 AM 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link 

I remember participating in the health study in the 80's.   Xylene and 
Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs.  If our hospitals/research 
centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could 
compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. 

I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health.  I can name at 
least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer.  Yes, it may have been when they 
were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in 
histology before safety became a priority.   I know others will remember no 
ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, 
etc.     There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed 
through lack of knowledge. 

I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we 
take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity.   

Hazel Horn 
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription 
Anatomic Pathology 
Arkansas Children's Hospital 
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax 
hor...@archildrens.org 
archildrens.org 






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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee  Peggy 
Wenk 
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM 
To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link 

Couple of studies that I know of. 

One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH 
Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. 
Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower 
pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium 
and dexterity than the general population. 

In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of 
participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing 
people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and 
had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how 
much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't 
participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, 
someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and 
someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would say therefore 
the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed to formaldehyde. 
But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due another chemical, or 
due to the fact that at the same time, people were smoking in the lab I was 
working in, which was a small space. 

Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy 
outcomes following gestational exposure to organic solvents. They interview 
women who were pregnant and working with organic solvent, so painters for 
example, so not histotechs only. They compared them to women of same age, same 
number of children, similar profession not exposed to organic solvents. 
They found that if the exposed women were having symptoms (breathing problems, 
rashes), they had a higher percentage of miscarriages and babies with 
deformities. If there were no symptoms, they had the same, and even lower, 
percentages than comparable women giving birth who were not exposed. 

What histology needs is something like the nursing organization in the US has 
been doing for over 40 years. Everyone who is a member of the nursing society 
is sent a survey (I think every year), and asked to have physicals information 
released from their doctors to the organization (It's voluntary to 
participate). But they have 40+ years of data from hundred of thousands of 
women, of all ages. They can mine a wealth of medical data from this. 

NSH (and ASCP) may not have enough

[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-04 Thread Bitting, Angela K.
The article doesn't even mention the repetitive motion injuries.




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RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-04 Thread Shirley A. Powell
I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep 
our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in 
it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out.   Thank goodness those 
days are gone.  Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get.  :)
Shirley Powell

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the 
xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene 
and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, 
smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual 
fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she 
said she couldn't stand to be next to me!

So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well 
ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!!

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 'Lee  Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I remember participating in the health study in the 80's.   Xylene and 
Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs.  If our hospitals/research 
centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could 
compile data it would be a starting place for a health study.

I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health.  I can name at 
least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer.  Yes, it may have been when they 
were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in 
histology before safety became a priority.   I know others will remember no 
ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, 
etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed 
through lack of knowledge.

I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we 
take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity.

Hazel Horn
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas 
Children's Hospital
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax
hor...@archildrens.org
archildrens.org






-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee  Peggy Wenk
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM
To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Couple of studies that I know of.

One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH 
Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. 
Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower 
pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium 
and dexterity than the general population.

In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of 
participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing 
people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and 
had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how 
much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't 
participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, 
someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and 
someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would say therefore 
the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed to formaldehyde. 
But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due another chemical, or 
due to the fact that at the same time, people were smoking in the lab I was 
working in, which was a small space.

Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy 
outcomes following gestational exposure to organic solvents. They interview 
women who were

RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI

2013-12-04 Thread Podawiltz, Thomas
My current lab the air exchange rate is 58/hr.
The good news: you do not smell fumes of any kind.
The bad news: we are negative pressure and the unvented bathrooms are just 
outside our lab.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep 
our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in 
it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out.   Thank goodness those 
days are gone.  Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get.  :)
Shirley Powell

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the 
xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene 
and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, 
smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual 
fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she 
said she couldn't stand to be next to me!

So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well 
ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!!

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



www.saintjosephsatlanta.org
5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road
Atlanta, GA 30342

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-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 'Lee  Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I remember participating in the health study in the 80's.   Xylene and 
Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs.  If our hospitals/research 
centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could 
compile data it would be a starting place for a health study.

I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health.  I can name at 
least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer.  Yes, it may have been when they 
were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in 
histology before safety became a priority.   I know others will remember no 
ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, 
etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed 
through lack of knowledge.

I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we 
take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity.

Hazel Horn
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas 
Children's Hospital
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax
hor...@archildrens.org
archildrens.org






-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee  Peggy Wenk
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM
To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Couple of studies that I know of.

One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH 
Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. 
Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower 
pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium 
and dexterity than the general population.

In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of 
participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing 
people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and 
had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how 
much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't 
participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, 
someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and 
someone else could have said high amount

RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI

2013-12-04 Thread Weems, Joyce K.
Oh joy!!!

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



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Atlanta, GA 30342

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-Original Message-
From: Podawiltz, Thomas [mailto:tpodawi...@lrgh.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:17 PM
To: Shirley A. Powell; Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI

My current lab the air exchange rate is 58/hr.
The good news: you do not smell fumes of any kind.
The bad news: we are negative pressure and the unvented bathrooms are just 
outside our lab.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep 
our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in 
it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out.   Thank goodness those 
days are gone.  Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get.  :)
Shirley Powell

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the 
xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene 
and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, 
smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual 
fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she 
said she couldn't stand to be next to me!

So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well 
ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!!

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



www.saintjosephsatlanta.org
5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road
Atlanta, GA 30342

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Hospital and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s).  It may 
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-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 'Lee  Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I remember participating in the health study in the 80's.   Xylene and 
Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs.  If our hospitals/research 
centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could 
compile data it would be a starting place for a health study.

I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health.  I can name at 
least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer.  Yes, it may have been when they 
were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in 
histology before safety became a priority.   I know others will remember no 
ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, 
etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed 
through lack of knowledge.

I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we 
take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity.

Hazel Horn
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas 
Children's Hospital
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax
hor...@archildrens.org
archildrens.org






-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee  Peggy Wenk
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM
To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Couple of studies that I know of.

One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH

RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI

2013-12-04 Thread Tony Henwood (SCHN)
Oh Poop I mean Damm

Regards 
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) 
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead
Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney 

Tel: 612 9845 3306 
Fax: 612 9845 3318 
Pathology Department
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Podawiltz, 
Thomas
Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2013 4:17 AM
To: Shirley A. Powell; Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI

My current lab the air exchange rate is 58/hr.
The good news: you do not smell fumes of any kind.
The bad news: we are negative pressure and the unvented bathrooms are just 
outside our lab.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep 
our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in 
it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out.   Thank goodness those 
days are gone.  Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get.  :)
Shirley Powell

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K.
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the 
xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene 
and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, 
smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual 
fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she 
said she couldn't stand to be next to me!

So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well 
ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!!

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



www.saintjosephsatlanta.org
5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road
Atlanta, GA 30342

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-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 'Lee  Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

I remember participating in the health study in the 80's.   Xylene and 
Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs.  If our hospitals/research 
centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could 
compile data it would be a starting place for a health study.

I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health.  I can name at 
least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer.  Yes, it may have been when they 
were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in 
histology before safety became a priority.   I know others will remember no 
ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, 
etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed 
through lack of knowledge.

I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we 
take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity.

Hazel Horn
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas 
Children's Hospital
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax
hor...@archildrens.org
archildrens.org






-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee  Peggy Wenk
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM
To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Couple of studies that I know of.

One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH 
Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. 
Published findings

[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Morken, Timothy
Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
One!!!



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html



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Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Paula Pierce
Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
 

Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
One!!!



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html



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[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Morken, Timothy
Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! (from 
an old Georgia Society hand).

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  
I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, 
in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. 

Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
 

Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
One!!!



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[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread O'Donnell, Bill
We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!

I didn't think anyone knew we existed.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  
I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, 
in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. 

Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
 

Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

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[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Weems, Joyce K.
Amen  to that!!

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:22 PM
To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! (from 
an old Georgia Society hand).

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San 
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  
I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, 
in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned.

Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!

Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link


Great. Just what we need.


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
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[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Shirley A. Powell
Thanks Tim.  You are sweet.  
People keep asking me when I was going to retire and I told them never, they 
will have to carry me out feet first.  I think loving my job has kept me going 
this long.  :)
sp


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From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Shirley A. Powell; Histonet
Subject: RE: Yahoo link

Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! (from 
an old Georgia Society hand).

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San 
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  
I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, 
in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. 

Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
 

Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
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RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Pam Barker
Maybe it's all the chemicals that keep all of the lovely ladies of histology
so well preserved  :)

Thanks-Pam

Right Place, Right Time, Right Move with RELIA!

Thank You!
 Pam M. Barker
 
Pam Barker
President/Senior Recruiting Specialist-Histology
RELIA Solutions
Specialists in Allied Healthcare Recruiting
5703 Red Bug Lake Road #330
Winter Springs, FL 32708-4969
Phone: (407)657-2027
Cell: (407)353-5070
FAX: (407)678-2788
E-mail: rel...@earthlink.net 
www.facebook.com/PamBarkerRELIA
www.linkedin.com/in/reliasolutions
www.twitter.com/pamatrelia 





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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A.
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Morken, Timothy
Cc: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Thanks Tim.  You are sweet.  
People keep asking me when I was going to retire and I told them never, they
will have to carry me out feet first.  I think loving my job has kept me
going this long.  :)
sp


-Original Message-
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Shirley A. Powell; Histonet
Subject: RE: Yahoo link

Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!!
(from an old Georgia Society hand).

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A.
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already
hooked.  I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices
can help, in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned.


Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org;
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
 

Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN)
6] * 3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the
danger. For instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful
in that it has such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none
of the usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that
often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number
One!!!



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-hea
lth-155706120.html



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RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Bea DeBrosse-Serra
Good one, Pam! :-)

Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra HT(ASCP)QIHC
Isis Pharmaceuticals
Antisense Drug Discovery
2855 Gazelle Ct.
Carlsbad, CA 92010
760-603-2371




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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pam Barker
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:48 AM
To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; 'Morken, Timothy'
Cc: 'Histonet'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Maybe it's all the chemicals that keep all of the lovely ladies of histology so 
well preserved  :)

Thanks-Pam

Right Place, Right Time, Right Move with RELIA!

Thank You!
 Pam M. Barker
 
Pam Barker
President/Senior Recruiting Specialist-Histology RELIA Solutions Specialists in 
Allied Healthcare Recruiting
5703 Red Bug Lake Road #330
Winter Springs, FL 32708-4969
Phone: (407)657-2027
Cell: (407)353-5070
FAX: (407)678-2788
E-mail: rel...@earthlink.net
www.facebook.com/PamBarkerRELIA
www.linkedin.com/in/reliasolutions
www.twitter.com/pamatrelia 





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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A.
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Morken, Timothy
Cc: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Thanks Tim.  You are sweet.  
People keep asking me when I was going to retire and I told them never, they
will have to carry me out feet first.  I think loving my job has kept me
going this long.  :)
sp


-Original Message-
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Shirley A. Powell; Histonet
Subject: RE: Yahoo link

Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!!
(from an old Georgia Society hand).

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San
Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A.
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already
hooked.  I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices
can help, in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned.


Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!
 
Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org;
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
 

Great. Just what we need. 


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN)
6] * 3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the
danger. For instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful
in that it has such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none
of the usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that
often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number
One!!!



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lth-155706120.html



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[Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

2013-12-03 Thread Ingles Claire

Old Histologists never die, they're just well fixed...
Claire

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[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Morken, Timothy 
[timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:22 AM
To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! (from 
an old Georgia Society hand).

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. 
Powell
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a 
histotechs was 20 years from hiring.  That scared me but I was already hooked.  
I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, 
in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned.

Shirley Powell
Antique Histotech

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link

Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now!

With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely!




And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS!

Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT
President
Excalibur Pathology, Inc.
5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address!
Norman, OK 73069
405-759-3953 Lab
405-759-7513 Fax
www.excaliburpathology.com



 From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
To: 'Mike Tighe' mti...@trudeauinstitute.org; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link


Great. Just what we need.


Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 
3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For 
instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has 
such good ventilation (ie.,  extraction) that there is none of the usual 
chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the 
senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies
UC San Francisco Medical Center
San Francisco, CA

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)
Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link

Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number 
One!!!



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html



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