RE: [Histonet] Re: Help! Liver mistakenly processed in paraffin (had to be in OCT instead)!

2012-11-14 Thread Edwards, Richard E.
Perhaps all is not lost  as  you  will be  able  to  see  on a  H@E the  spaces 
reluctantly vacated by  the  lipids.

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Subject: [Histonet] Re: Help! Liver mistakenly processed in paraffin (had to be 
in OCT instead)!

We just wanted to see general lipids, nothing in particular. This mouse died 
unexpectedly and may have been part of a group that was put on a high fat or 
high bile acid diet and we just wanted to see what happened.

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012, Jennifer MacDonald wrote:

 It depends on what you are using the oil red o for.  Lipofuscin and 
 ceroid can be demonstrated with an oil red o stain after processing.
 Jennifer MacDonald




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 Hello Histonetters,

 First time writer, long time reader. I'm a newbie tech in academia and 
 I was given a simple task which I think I pretty much screwed up.

 I should have embedded half of a mouse liver in paraffin for microtome 
 sectioning while the other half should have been embedded in OCT for 
 cryosectioning (for oil red o). I made the mistake last night of 
 placing both liver halves into the tissue processor. The liver I 
 intended for OCT embedding is now hard as wax. Is there any way to 
 deparaffinize processed organs and may I embed them in OCT for proper 
 cryosectioning? I imagine that the liver would get dehydrated, I would 
 get crappy sections, and Oil Red O won't work.

 Any suggestions are welcome.

 Thank you so much,

 Zoe W.


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[Histonet] Re: Help! Liver mistakenly processed in paraffin (had to be in OCT instead)!

2012-11-13 Thread z o n k e d
Ah, I knew it. :(
Thank you.

Zoe

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012, Will Chappell wrote:

 Nope, sorry. All your fat is dissolved.

 Sent from my iPhone

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  Hello Histonetters,
 
  First time writer, long time reader. I'm a newbie tech in academia and I
  was given a simple task which I think I pretty much screwed up.
 
  I should have embedded half of a mouse liver in paraffin for microtome
  sectioning while the other half should have been embedded in OCT for
  cryosectioning (for oil red o). I made the mistake last night of placing
  both liver halves into the tissue processor. The liver I intended for OCT
  embedding is now hard as wax. Is there any way to deparaffinize processed
  organs and may I embed them in OCT for proper cryosectioning? I imagine
  that the liver would get dehydrated, I would get crappy sections, and Oil
  Red O won't work.
 
  Any suggestions are welcome.
 
  Thank you so much,
 
  Zoe W.
 
 
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[Histonet] Re: Help! Liver mistakenly processed in paraffin (had to be in OCT instead)!

2012-11-13 Thread z o n k e d
We just wanted to see general lipids, nothing in particular. This mouse
died unexpectedly and may have been part of a group that was put on a high
fat or high bile acid diet and we just wanted to see what happened.

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012, Jennifer MacDonald wrote:

 It depends on what you are using the oil red o for.  Lipofuscin and ceroid
 can be demonstrated with an oil red o stain after processing.
 Jennifer MacDonald




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 Hello Histonetters,

 First time writer, long time reader. I'm a newbie tech in academia and I
 was given a simple task which I think I pretty much screwed up.

 I should have embedded half of a mouse liver in paraffin for microtome
 sectioning while the other half should have been embedded in OCT for
 cryosectioning (for oil red o). I made the mistake last night of placing
 both liver halves into the tissue processor. The liver I intended for OCT
 embedding is now hard as wax. Is there any way to deparaffinize processed
 organs and may I embed them in OCT for proper cryosectioning? I imagine
 that the liver would get dehydrated, I would get crappy sections, and Oil
 Red O won't work.

 Any suggestions are welcome.

 Thank you so much,

 Zoe W.


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[Histonet] Re: Help! Liver mistakenly processed in paraffin (had to be in OCT instead)!

2012-11-13 Thread Jennifer MacDonald
if there was fat replacement, such as cirrhosis, you will see it in the 
morphology.



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Subject:Re: Help! Liver mistakenly processed in paraffin (had to 
be in OCT instead)!



We just wanted to see general lipids, nothing in particular. This mouse 
died unexpectedly and may have been part of a group that was put on a high 
fat or high bile acid diet and we just wanted to see what happened.

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012, Jennifer MacDonald wrote:
It depends on what you are using the oil red o for.  Lipofuscin and ceroid 
can be demonstrated with an oil red o stain after processing. 
Jennifer MacDonald 




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Hello Histonetters,

First time writer, long time reader. I'm a newbie tech in academia and I
was given a simple task which I think I pretty much screwed up.

I should have embedded half of a mouse liver in paraffin for microtome
sectioning while the other half should have been embedded in OCT for
cryosectioning (for oil red o). I made the mistake last night of placing
both liver halves into the tissue processor. The liver I intended for OCT
embedding is now hard as wax. Is there any way to deparaffinize processed
organs and may I embed them in OCT for proper cryosectioning? I imagine
that the liver would get dehydrated, I would get crappy sections, and Oil
Red O won't work.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thank you so much,

Zoe W.


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[Histonet] Re: Help! Liver mistakenly processed in paraffin (had to be in OCT instead)!

2012-11-13 Thread z o n k e d
Thank you all for your helpful responses! I will go ahead and carry on with
paraffin sectioning and stain with HE as planned. As for the Oil Red O,
I'll try that too and see what happens.
(Still amazed at how amazing Histonet is and how helpful you all are! Thank
you very much for all your responses!)

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Jennifer MacDonald jmacdon...@mtsac.eduwrote:

 if there was fat replacement, such as cirrhosis, you will see it in the
 morphology.



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 We just wanted to see general lipids, nothing in particular. This mouse
 died unexpectedly and may have been part of a group that was put on a high
 fat or high bile acid diet and we just wanted to see what happened.

 On Tuesday, November 13, 2012, Jennifer MacDonald wrote:
 It depends on what you are using the oil red o for.  Lipofuscin and ceroid
 can be demonstrated with an oil red o stain after processing.
 Jennifer MacDonald




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 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu*
 Date:11/13/2012 08:53 AM
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 Hello Histonetters,

 First time writer, long time reader. I'm a newbie tech in academia and I
 was given a simple task which I think I pretty much screwed up.

 I should have embedded half of a mouse liver in paraffin for microtome
 sectioning while the other half should have been embedded in OCT for
 cryosectioning (for oil red o). I made the mistake last night of placing
 both liver halves into the tissue processor. The liver I intended for OCT
 embedding is now hard as wax. Is there any way to deparaffinize processed
 organs and may I embed them in OCT for proper cryosectioning? I imagine
 that the liver would get dehydrated, I would get crappy sections, and Oil
 Red O won't work.

 Any suggestions are welcome.

 Thank you so much,

 Zoe W.


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