Re: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms
Until we have implemented our barcode system, the grossers only get copies of the paperwork. The originals are kept in pristine condition for those who really need to touch them. Douglas A. Porter, HT (ASCP) Pathologist Assistant Anatomic Pathology IT Coordinator Sparrow Center for Laboratory Medicine Department of Pathology 3392 Patient Care Drive Lansing, MI 48911 517-371-9481 (phone) 517-371-9540 (fax) douglas.por...@sparrow.org -Original Message- From: Morken, Timothy via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 1:21 PM To: Paula Cc: Histonet Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms Warning: This email originated from outside of Sparrow. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and are expecting the message. -- Paula, we use Cerner Copath Plus and scan into the case all requisitions and any other paperwork at accessioning. The person grossing uses the barcode on hard copy requisition to access the case but the hard copy stays in the gross room so no contaminated paperwork (or any paperwork at all) ever leaves the dirty area. However, they normally review the paperwork before starting the grossing, and normally change gloves if they are dirty, so contamination is not usually a problem. Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center -Original Message- From: Paula via Histonet Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:05 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms Hello..good morning, Can anyone recommend a creative approach to avoid blood from being transferred from disposable gloves onto the patient requisition form during the grossing phase of histology? I've seen a number of smudge marks and have asked the grossing doctor to avoid touching the requisition form but she says that is unavoidable. I've asked her to change out gloves, but she says that is not practical. In the meantime, if billing or lab personnel sees this, they will put on gloves and insert the paperwork inside a protective sleeve cover. But, what are the types of things the grossing doctor can do to avoid this transfer besides changing out gloves or avoiding touching the paperwork? Thank you in advance, Paula ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.utsouthwestern.edu_mailman_listinfo_histonet=DwICAg=iORugZls2LlYyCAZRB3XLg=7cy9qXFa73jDX2Iixpjkq1XlWAfHgLLHm33agI_sCKA=bKRg4fs8QhunBF_2HolCjKwJ14G5DRpVARmYpMl9XtE=xf3ZdUymBYQaCMplDgjexMv7dRRDGAHZqhu7LNzE9rA= ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.utsouthwestern.edu_mailman_listinfo_histonet=DwICAg=qgJBLQvENW4Kb9JcrSOXvj11QOUUKGR5N2IUAtns1Jg=6pgpgKsLHvt-FitLISss8MQQkPawKdpRw8msCll96Ts=UqSys5omcPXE0o07SHJ28luvguTh6jptythgppGE908=l6s52gvsxO4WKpDkd1drBONviwbcdoeX-9JQhKeaHc4= CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them. If you are the intended recipient, secure the contents in a manner that conforms to all applicable state and/or federal requirements related to privacy and confidentiality of such information. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms
Paula, we use Cerner Copath Plus and scan into the case all requisitions and any other paperwork at accessioning. The person grossing uses the barcode on hard copy requisition to access the case but the hard copy stays in the gross room so no contaminated paperwork (or any paperwork at all) ever leaves the dirty area. However, they normally review the paperwork before starting the grossing, and normally change gloves if they are dirty, so contamination is not usually a problem. Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center -Original Message- From: Paula via Histonet Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:05 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms Hello..good morning, Can anyone recommend a creative approach to avoid blood from being transferred from disposable gloves onto the patient requisition form during the grossing phase of histology? I've seen a number of smudge marks and have asked the grossing doctor to avoid touching the requisition form but she says that is unavoidable. I've asked her to change out gloves, but she says that is not practical. In the meantime, if billing or lab personnel sees this, they will put on gloves and insert the paperwork inside a protective sleeve cover. But, what are the types of things the grossing doctor can do to avoid this transfer besides changing out gloves or avoiding touching the paperwork? Thank you in advance, Paula ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.utsouthwestern.edu_mailman_listinfo_histonet=DwICAg=iORugZls2LlYyCAZRB3XLg=7cy9qXFa73jDX2Iixpjkq1XlWAfHgLLHm33agI_sCKA=bKRg4fs8QhunBF_2HolCjKwJ14G5DRpVARmYpMl9XtE=xf3ZdUymBYQaCMplDgjexMv7dRRDGAHZqhu7LNzE9rA= ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms
We place the requisitions in plastic pages. Keeps the "gunk" off and can be cleaned repeatedly. Lynne Bell, HT (ASCP) Histology Team Leader Administrative Assistant Lead Central Vermont Medical Center 130 Fisher Road Berlin, VT 05602 (802)371-4923 -Original Message- From: Bryan Llewellyn via Histonet Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 12:59 PM To: Paula ; Histonet Subject: Re: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms This message came from an external source. Please exercise caution when opening any attachments or clicking on links. We used to have a form with two sheets. The front sheet was a "magic carbon" so the patient information was automatically transferred. During booking in of the specimen, we separated the sheets. The back sheet accompanied the specimen for the gross description and the top sheet went directly to the office. The top sheets were retained as they had the original signature. Bryan Llewellyn Paula via Histonet wrote: > Hello..good morning, > > > > Can anyone recommend a creative approach to avoid blood from being > transferred from disposable gloves onto the patient requisition form > during the grossing phase of histology? > > > > I've seen a number of smudge marks and have asked the grossing doctor > to avoid touching the requisition form but she says that is > unavoidable. I've asked her to change out gloves, but she says that is not > practical. > > > > In the meantime, if billing or lab personnel sees this, they will put > on gloves and insert the paperwork inside a protective sleeve cover. > > > > But, what are the types of things the grossing doctor can do to avoid > this transfer besides changing out gloves or avoiding touching the paperwork? > > > > Thank you in advance, > > Paula > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists > .utsouthwestern.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhistonetdata=02%7C01%7 > Clynne.bell%40cvmc.org%7C996fbe3a86334c574fc008d7679a00ce%7C5fc09f37dc > 5a489395c0ae3bb5ef18df%7C0%7C0%7C637091783465095697sdata=mphQv5f0 > ycklMOKIpSGkNAZMvIIq4xVpdGO%2FX%2Bxdn%2BY%3Dreserved=0 > ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.utsouthwestern.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhistonetdata=02%7C01%7Clynne.bell%40cvmc.org%7C996fbe3a86334c574fc008d7679a00ce%7C5fc09f37dc5a489395c0ae3bb5ef18df%7C0%7C0%7C637091783465095697sdata=mphQv5f0ycklMOKIpSGkNAZMvIIq4xVpdGO%2FX%2Bxdn%2BY%3Dreserved=0 This message and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, privileged and/or protected from disclosure under state and federal laws. If you received this message in error or through inappropriate means, please reply to this message to notify the Sender that the message was received by you in error, and then permanently delete this message from all storage media, without forwarding or retaining a copy. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms
We used to have a form with two sheets. The front sheet was a "magic carbon" so the patient information was automatically transferred. During booking in of the specimen, we separated the sheets. The back sheet accompanied the specimen for the gross description and the top sheet went directly to the office. The top sheets were retained as they had the original signature. Bryan Llewellyn Paula via Histonet wrote: Hello..good morning, Can anyone recommend a creative approach to avoid blood from being transferred from disposable gloves onto the patient requisition form during the grossing phase of histology? I've seen a number of smudge marks and have asked the grossing doctor to avoid touching the requisition form but she says that is unavoidable. I've asked her to change out gloves, but she says that is not practical. In the meantime, if billing or lab personnel sees this, they will put on gloves and insert the paperwork inside a protective sleeve cover. But, what are the types of things the grossing doctor can do to avoid this transfer besides changing out gloves or avoiding touching the paperwork? Thank you in advance, Paula ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
[Histonet] contaminating patient requesition forms
Hello..good morning, Can anyone recommend a creative approach to avoid blood from being transferred from disposable gloves onto the patient requisition form during the grossing phase of histology? I've seen a number of smudge marks and have asked the grossing doctor to avoid touching the requisition form but she says that is unavoidable. I've asked her to change out gloves, but she says that is not practical. In the meantime, if billing or lab personnel sees this, they will put on gloves and insert the paperwork inside a protective sleeve cover. But, what are the types of things the grossing doctor can do to avoid this transfer besides changing out gloves or avoiding touching the paperwork? Thank you in advance, Paula ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet