RE: [Histonet] FNA SLIDES

2009-09-01 Thread Kemlo Rogerson
Adequacy is carried out by the Biomedical Scientist usually in the UK. I
make a couple of air dried per passage and stain Diff Quick; you can
then give an indication of adequacy within 5 min or so. Usually if the
FNA is performed properly you don't get much material;; for example
breast and LN's are usually sparse and you get maybe a couple of slides
(we don't check these for adequacy as the Site is easily re-needled).
Pancreas, Thyroid and Lung are another matter. Usually CT orientated
FNAC of the lung tend not to be too cellular but sometimes they are; I
used to stain a couple for adequacy and make as many slides as possible.
The problem is if you make loads of slides and malignant cells are not
apparent in those you stain then you have to look at all the others;
tough. If there are malignant cells abundant then you ought to look at
all the slides just in case they hold diagnostic information. In the end
we did 6 slides and washed the remainder into a pot with saline and did
Cytospins if appropriate.

Pancreatic FNACs taken under a ultra sound flexible scope can also be
very cellular (blood) and the above statement holds. Thyroid's can be
very bloody, very bloody; trick is not to pull on the plunger but let it
seep into the syringe. Too much blood and what little you have gets well
diluted!!  


 





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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jane C.
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Subject: [Histonet] FNA SLIDES

A question has arisen for us- How many slides do you (should you) make
per pass for pathologist  for adequacy and/or diagnosis? 

 

What about CT guided biopsies of liver, lung, masses  etc. 

 

Thanks in advance for your input.  Jane

 

Jane Moose

LIS Coordinator

Newberry County Memorial Hospital

Newberry, SC  29108

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RE: [Histonet] FNA SLIDES

2009-08-31 Thread Feher, Stephen
A lot depends on the pathologist and the nature of the specimen.  For CT
guided biopsies where you get a core and do touch preps.  One slide per
pass should be sufficient.  For FNA's where you get fluid I make two
slides per staining medium (some pathologists want Toluene Blue and Diff
Quick.  Some want a Diff Quik and a Pap Stain).  The remainder of the
fluid should be put into CytoLyt or other suitable fluid for cell block
and/or Liquid Based Cytology processing.  It is possible to do a rapid
Pap that while not nearly as quick as the Diff Quick is still doable.
The bottom line is that it is up to the pathologist that has to look at
them.

Hope this helps.


Steve

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jane C.
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Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:34 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] FNA SLIDES

A question has arisen for us- How many slides do you (should you) make
per pass for pathologist  for adequacy and/or diagnosis? 

 

What about CT guided biopsies of liver, lung, masses  etc. 

 

Thanks in advance for your input.  Jane

 

Jane Moose

LIS Coordinator

Newberry County Memorial Hospital

Newberry, SC  29108

P-803-405-7129

F- 803-405-7474

 

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RE: [Histonet] FNA SLIDES

2009-08-31 Thread Tony Henwood
We make two slides.
One air dried DQ for immediate assessment, second alcohol fixed for PAP
in the lab.
The spreader we either stain with Giemsa or rehydrate (using saline)
and stain with PAP in lab.

Triage as follows: If inflammatory, second pass for microbiology.
If malignant, if required, then second pass for cell block.

Regards

Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC)
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
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Fax: 612 9845 3318
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Subject: [Histonet] FNA SLIDES


A question has arisen for us- How many slides do you (should you) make
per pass for pathologist  for adequacy and/or diagnosis? 

 

What about CT guided biopsies of liver, lung, masses  etc. 

 

Thanks in advance for your input.  Jane

 

Jane Moose

LIS Coordinator

Newberry County Memorial Hospital

Newberry, SC  29108

P-803-405-7129

F- 803-405-7474

 

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