RE: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms
I know of no rules, though there may well be. I do know that several years ago a patient was injected (IV)with formalin in the OR. Results were NOT good. I know that the OR in the place I was working at the time would no longer allow for formalin in the OR suite. The tissues were put in formalin in a separate area - by OR staff. Bill -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Sicurello Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 6:05 PM To: Debra Siena Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms I would be interested in the replies as well. To add to that, I've heard the same thing about glutartaldehyde, do the same rules apply? Thanks, Paula -- Paula Sicurello, HTL (ASCP) Supervisor, Clinical Electron Microscopy Laboratory Duke University Health System Rm.#251M, Duke South, Green Zone Durham, North Carolina 27710 P: 919.684.2091 On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Debra Siena dsi...@statlab.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to ask if anyone has heard of any new regulations or laws that state that the Operating Room can't have formalin available in the room so that they can place formalin onto the sample right away? I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, if you could tell me more about where it is coming from so that I can access a copy of it. We have had some inquiries and I have not heard of this. I appreciate any help that you can give and sorry, that I don't have more information. Best wishes. Debbie Siena, HT(ASCP)QIHC StatLab Medical Products Technical Support Manager 407 Interchange Street | McKinney, TX 75071 t: 800.442.3573 ext. 229 | f: 972.436.1369 dsi...@statlab.com | www.statlab.com ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet This electronic mail and any attached documents are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and contain confidential information. If you are not an addressee, or responsible for delivering this email to an addressee, you have received this email in error and are notified that reading, copying, or disclosing this email is prohibited. If you received this email in error, immediately reply to the sender and delete the message completely from your computer system. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms
I also have not heard of any recent rule changes. Being aware of the formalin mishap in OR, our hospital has been using for over 20 years, a light blue tinged 10%NBF that the supplier makes up special. The blue is actually just a few drops of food coloring that the manufacturer adds, and the blue does NOT carry over through processing and staining. I am also aware that we are not the only hospital using this blue formalin. There is no confusion for the OR personnel when they grab the appropriate container (NBF v/s saline). hope this helps, Lynette From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of O'Donnell, Bill [billodonn...@catholichealth.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:05 AM To: Paula Sicurello; Debra Siena Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms I know of no rules, though there may well be. I do know that several years ago a patient was injected (IV)with formalin in the OR. Results were NOT good. I know that the OR in the place I was working at the time would no longer allow for formalin in the OR suite. The tissues were put in formalin in a separate area - by OR staff. Bill -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Sicurello Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 6:05 PM To: Debra Siena Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms I would be interested in the replies as well. To add to that, I've heard the same thing about glutartaldehyde, do the same rules apply? Thanks, Paula -- Paula Sicurello, HTL (ASCP) Supervisor, Clinical Electron Microscopy Laboratory Duke University Health System Rm.#251M, Duke South, Green Zone Durham, North Carolina 27710 P: 919.684.2091 On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Debra Siena dsi...@statlab.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to ask if anyone has heard of any new regulations or laws that state that the Operating Room can't have formalin available in the room so that they can place formalin onto the sample right away? I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, if you could tell me more about where it is coming from so that I can access a copy of it. We have had some inquiries and I have not heard of this. I appreciate any help that you can give and sorry, that I don't have more information. Best wishes. Debbie Siena, HT(ASCP)QIHC StatLab Medical Products Technical Support Manager 407 Interchange Street | McKinney, TX 75071 t: 800.442.3573 ext. 229 | f: 972.436.1369 dsi...@statlab.com | www.statlab.com ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet This electronic mail and any attached documents are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and contain confidential information. If you are not an addressee, or responsible for delivering this email to an addressee, you have received this email in error and are notified that reading, copying, or disclosing this email is prohibited. If you received this email in error, immediately reply to the sender and delete the message completely from your computer system. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
RE: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms
Here is a notorious case from my days working in a Ft. Lauderdale suburban hospital. Along with Bill's experiences we took formalin out of the OR after this was reported, but it wasn't a requirement as far as I remember. http://www.nytimes.com/1985/03/10/us/one-death-many-questions-in-miami.html?pagewanted=all Brett M. Connolly, Ph.D. Principal Scientist, Imaging Dept. Merck Co., Inc. PO Box 4, WP-44K West Point, PA 19486 brett_conno...@merck.com T- 215-652-2501 F- 215-993-6803 -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of O'Donnell, Bill Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:05 AM To: Paula Sicurello; Debra Siena Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms I know of no rules, though there may well be. I do know that several years ago a patient was injected (IV)with formalin in the OR. Results were NOT good. I know that the OR in the place I was working at the time would no longer allow for formalin in the OR suite. The tissues were put in formalin in a separate area - by OR staff. Bill -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Sicurello Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 6:05 PM To: Debra Siena Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms I would be interested in the replies as well. To add to that, I've heard the same thing about glutartaldehyde, do the same rules apply? Thanks, Paula -- Paula Sicurello, HTL (ASCP) Supervisor, Clinical Electron Microscopy Laboratory Duke University Health System Rm.#251M, Duke South, Green Zone Durham, North Carolina 27710 P: 919.684.2091 On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Debra Siena dsi...@statlab.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to ask if anyone has heard of any new regulations or laws that state that the Operating Room can't have formalin available in the room so that they can place formalin onto the sample right away? I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, if you could tell me more about where it is coming from so that I can access a copy of it. We have had some inquiries and I have not heard of this. I appreciate any help that you can give and sorry, that I don't have more information. Best wishes. Debbie Siena, HT(ASCP)QIHC StatLab Medical Products Technical Support Manager 407 Interchange Street | McKinney, TX 75071 t: 800.442.3573 ext. 229 | f: 972.436.1369 dsi...@statlab.com | www.statlab.com ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet This electronic mail and any attached documents are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and contain confidential information. If you are not an addressee, or responsible for delivering this email to an addressee, you have received this email in error and are notified that reading, copying, or disclosing this email is prohibited. If you received this email in error, immediately reply to the sender and delete the message completely from your computer system. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates Direct contact information for affiliates is available at http://www.merck.com/contact/contacts.html) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms
Johnson Johnson just a few days ago announced that they're going to take formaldehyde out of baby shampoo! No wonder I can't get my baby's hair squeeky clean anymore! How much formalin do I need to add to replace the formalin they took out? Sincerely? Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP) ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms
I would be interested in the replies as well. To add to that, I've heard the same thing about glutartaldehyde, do the same rules apply? Thanks, Paula -- Paula Sicurello, HTL (ASCP) Supervisor, Clinical Electron Microscopy Laboratory Duke University Health System Rm.#251M, Duke South, Green Zone Durham, North Carolina 27710 P: 919.684.2091 On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Debra Siena dsi...@statlab.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to ask if anyone has heard of any new regulations or laws that state that the Operating Room can't have formalin available in the room so that they can place formalin onto the sample right away? I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, if you could tell me more about where it is coming from so that I can access a copy of it. We have had some inquiries and I have not heard of this. I appreciate any help that you can give and sorry, that I don't have more information. Best wishes. Debbie Siena, HT(ASCP)QIHC StatLab Medical Products Technical Support Manager 407 Interchange Street | McKinney, TX 75071 t: 800.442.3573 ext. 229 | f: 972.436.1369 dsi...@statlab.com | www.statlab.com ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Formalin and Operating Rooms
Hi Debra, Formaldehyde was listed as known to be a human carcinogen in the 12th Report on Carcinogens (2011) put out by the Department of Health and Human Services. Here is a link http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/roc/twelfth/profiles/Formaldehyde.pdf This is what is probably behind any recent changes to its use or availability. Johnson Johnson just a few days ago announced that they're going to take formaldehyde out of baby shampoo! Yah! Mark On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Debra Siena dsi...@statlab.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to ask if anyone has heard of any new regulations or laws that state that the Operating Room can't have formalin available in the room so that they can place formalin onto the sample right away? I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, if you could tell me more about where it is coming from so that I can access a copy of it. We have had some inquiries and I have not heard of this. I appreciate any help that you can give and sorry, that I don't have more information. Best wishes. Debbie Siena, HT(ASCP)QIHC StatLab Medical Products Technical Support Manager 407 Interchange Street | McKinney, TX 75071 t: 800.442.3573 ext. 229 | f: 972.436.1369 dsi...@statlab.com | www.statlab.com ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
