RE: [Histonet] Immuno's

2011-04-11 Thread Rathborne, Toni
Who are you purchasing your antibodies from? Any of the companies that I have 
dealt with would gladly send someone out to optimize their antibodies. The fact 
that you are performing them manually probably is not the cause for the weak 
staining. We used to use the old Shandon Sequenza staining system as a backup 
if our Dako was out of service. When used with the same protocols, the staining 
was the same. 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Hannen,
Valerie
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:26 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Immuno's


Hi Folks..
 
Looking for a bit of help. Is there anyone out there who are doing their
immuno's manually?  Our Pathologist has just informed us that our
immuno's are ALL too weak.
He states that they always have been, as he compares them to slides that
we get back from the  reference labs that we use for the antibodies that
we don't do in-house.
 
If you are doing them manually...what companies are you using for
antibodies, detection kit and chromogen? And are your stains really
dark?
 
I informed our Pathologist that I know for a fact that the reference
labs that we use, do the immuno's on stainers, and naturally these
stains will be consistently be stronger.
 
I am trying to see if I can keep costs down by trying not to have to buy
a stainer and continue to do the immuno's manually.
 
If you all know of a wet-workshop or of a immuno. company who would send
someone to our facility to teach us ( the latter is preferred, since my
section chief is going to retire in 1 1/2 weeks, I will be taking over
her duties and this is going to leave us with only myself and one other
tech, until we can get a replacement for my position).
 
Any help or advice that can be given will be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks so much.
 
Valerie Hannen, MLT(ASCP),HTL,SU (FL)
Parrish Medical Center
Titusville,Florida


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RE: [Histonet] Immuno's

2011-04-11 Thread William Chappell
Toni beat me to it.

My suggestion is to contact the vendor where you purchase your detection.  The 
technical support departments for immuno vendors are emmensely helpful.  Try 
Dako at 800-400-DAKO, Biocare at 603-925-8000, or Cellmarque at 800.665.7284.  

In addition, it has always been my experience that a good hand stain is always 
better than an instrument stain -- primarily because they are better washed by 
hand.  My best guess is that you are not draining your slides well enough 
between rinses.  What I do is flood my slides with buffer, then put them at an 
angle (the Biocare IQ stainer is great for this) and rinse again -- Robin 
Simpkins at Biocare calls this the Jamaican waterfall.  I then follow up with a 
flick of the slide, then proceed to the next step.

Again call your vendors.  Technical support will be extremely helpful and you 
may get an expert (applications specialist or TSR) out to help you in person.

William Chappell, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
IHC Development Specialist
CellNetix Pathology  Laboratories
(503) 358-9567
www.cellnetix.com
Our expertise...your peace of mind




--- On Mon, 4/11/11, Rathborne, Toni trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com wrote:

 From: Rathborne, Toni trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Immuno's
 To: Hannen, Valerie valerie.han...@parrishmed.com, 
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 8:38 AM
 Who are you purchasing your
 antibodies from? Any of the companies that I have dealt with
 would gladly send someone out to optimize their antibodies.
 The fact that you are performing them manually probably is
 not the cause for the weak staining. We used to use the old
 Shandon Sequenza staining system as a backup if our Dako was
 out of service. When used with the same protocols, the
 staining was the same. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On
 Behalf Of Hannen,
 Valerie
 Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:26 AM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Immuno's
 
 
 Hi Folks..
  
 Looking for a bit of help. Is there anyone out there who
 are doing their
 immuno's manually?  Our Pathologist has just informed
 us that our
 immuno's are ALL too weak.
 He states that they always have been, as he compares them
 to slides that
 we get back from the  reference labs that we use for
 the antibodies that
 we don't do in-house.
  
 If you are doing them manually...what companies are you
 using for
 antibodies, detection kit and chromogen? And are your
 stains really
 dark?
  
 I informed our Pathologist that I know for a fact that the
 reference
 labs that we use, do the immuno's on stainers, and
 naturally these
 stains will be consistently be stronger.
  
 I am trying to see if I can keep costs down by trying not
 to have to buy
 a stainer and continue to do the immuno's manually.
  
 If you all know of a wet-workshop or of a immuno. company
 who would send
 someone to our facility to teach us ( the latter is
 preferred, since my
 section chief is going to retire in 1 1/2 weeks, I will be
 taking over
 her duties and this is going to leave us with only myself
 and one other
 tech, until we can get a replacement for my position).
  
 Any help or advice that can be given will be greatly
 appreciated.
  
 Thanks so much.
  
 Valerie Hannen, MLT(ASCP),HTL,SU (FL)
 Parrish Medical Center
 Titusville,Florida
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] Immuno's

2011-04-11 Thread Cynthia Pyse
Do you use a hydrophobic pen to circle the tissue. This concentrates the
solution where you need it. 

Cindy Pyse, CLT, HT (ASCP)
Laboratory/Histology Supervisor
X-Cell Laboratories
716-250-9235 etx.232
e-mail cp...@x-celllab.com



-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Hannen,
Valerie
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:26 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Immuno's

Hi Folks..
 
Looking for a bit of help. Is there anyone out there who are doing their
immuno's manually?  Our Pathologist has just informed us that our
immuno's are ALL too weak.
He states that they always have been, as he compares them to slides that
we get back from the  reference labs that we use for the antibodies that
we don't do in-house.
 
If you are doing them manually...what companies are you using for
antibodies, detection kit and chromogen? And are your stains really
dark?
 
I informed our Pathologist that I know for a fact that the reference
labs that we use, do the immuno's on stainers, and naturally these
stains will be consistently be stronger.
 
I am trying to see if I can keep costs down by trying not to have to buy
a stainer and continue to do the immuno's manually.
 
If you all know of a wet-workshop or of a immuno. company who would send
someone to our facility to teach us ( the latter is preferred, since my
section chief is going to retire in 1 1/2 weeks, I will be taking over
her duties and this is going to leave us with only myself and one other
tech, until we can get a replacement for my position).
 
Any help or advice that can be given will be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks so much.
 
Valerie Hannen, MLT(ASCP),HTL,SU (FL)
Parrish Medical Center
Titusville,Florida


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