Re: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread Jay Lundgren
I don't know about CAP guidelines, but I always thought separating the
paperwork was to avoid blood/body fluid and/or formaldehyde contamination
to the poor transcriptionists and clerical people who have to handle the
req after grossing, with no gloves or ventilation!  Some places I've worked
have put the reqs in clear plastic binder pages to avoid this, in others
the transcriptionists have worn gloves.

   Sincerely,

Jay A.
Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)








On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Martin, Gary
gmar...@marshallmedical.orgwrote:

 We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to remain
 with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a separate stack
 on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in the on deck
 tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
 CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be
 appreciated.

 Thanks

 Gary

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RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread WILLIAM DESALVO
I am not aware of any CAP regulation that requires the requisition to remain w/ 
the specimen. The pathologist/PA at gross dissection needs to be able to 
positively confirm/verify the specimen container information (two forms of 
patient ID and specimen source) w/ the order entry information (taken from the 
requisition). There are many labs that are paperless during the technical 
process and I see more and more use of electronic requisitions and orders.

William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee

 
 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:55:12 -0700
 From: gmar...@marshallmedical.org
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to remain
 with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a separate stack
 on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in the on deck
 tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
 CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be
 appreciated. 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Gary
 
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RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread Douglas Porter
There are times when the requisition and the specimen are labeled
differently.  Many offices pre-label their specimen containers, take the
specimen from a different source and forget to change the label on the
container.  They make the change on the requisition and then you have a
discrepancy.  The grosser is a perfect double check to make sure everything
matches.  It will keep you from having to amend reports that go out before
the discrepancy is discovered.

Douglas A. Porter, HT (ASCP) 
Grossing Technician 
IT Coordinator
Cancer Registrar 

CAP-Lab, PLC 
2508 South Cedar Street 
Lansing, MI 48910-3138 

517-372-5520 (phone) 
517-372-5540 (fax) 

doug.por...@caplab.org 

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DESALVO
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:02 PM
To: Martin, Gary; histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

I am not aware of any CAP regulation that requires the requisition to remain
w/ the specimen. The pathologist/PA at gross dissection needs to be able to
positively confirm/verify the specimen container information (two forms of
patient ID and specimen source) w/ the order entry information (taken from
the requisition). There are many labs that are paperless during the
technical process and I see more and more use of electronic requisitions and
orders.

William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee

 
 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:55:12 -0700
 From: gmar...@marshallmedical.org
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to 
 remain with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a 
 separate stack on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in
the on deck
 tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
 CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be 
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 Gary
 
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RE: [Histonet] Requisitions

2013-08-21 Thread joelle weaver
That seems to happen pretty often. When I accessioned a lot it was at least a 
daily occurrence that information would not match between the jar and 
requisition, or information was missing or illegible. I have noticed that it is 
much easier to reach the actual person who labeled the specimen for corrections 
if you attempt to track them down as soon as possible after the specimen is 
dropped off.  I have a policy for checking the manifest and then cross checking 
the jar and requisition during accessioning that requires they travel together 
in order to be cross-checked. If problems are noted, discrepancies, missing 
information and the like,  there is a form to document the discrepancies and 
relabeling needed. I prefer to also note in the LIS, just in case there are 
still questions later. I just feel that even if it is not specifically 
stipulated in regulations or checklists that when the requisition and 
specimen/specimen jar are always together you can catch specimen integrity 
problems sooner so they can be corrected.  The grosser is also a great 
checkpoint, definitely.




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
 From: doug.por...@caplab.org
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:19:10 -0400
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 There are times when the requisition and the specimen are labeled
 differently.  Many offices pre-label their specimen containers, take the
 specimen from a different source and forget to change the label on the
 container.  They make the change on the requisition and then you have a
 discrepancy.  The grosser is a perfect double check to make sure everything
 matches.  It will keep you from having to amend reports that go out before
 the discrepancy is discovered.
 
 Douglas A. Porter, HT (ASCP) 
 Grossing Technician 
 IT Coordinator
 Cancer Registrar 
 
 CAP-Lab, PLC 
 2508 South Cedar Street   
 Lansing, MI 48910-3138 
 
 517-372-5520 (phone) 
 517-372-5540 (fax) 
 
 doug.por...@caplab.org 
 
 www.caplab.org
  
  
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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of WILLIAM
 DESALVO
 Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:02 PM
 To: Martin, Gary; histonet
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Requisitions
 
 I am not aware of any CAP regulation that requires the requisition to remain
 w/ the specimen. The pathologist/PA at gross dissection needs to be able to
 positively confirm/verify the specimen container information (two forms of
 patient ID and specimen source) w/ the order entry information (taken from
 the requisition). There are many labs that are paperless during the
 technical process and I see more and more use of electronic requisitions and
 orders.
 
 William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
 Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee
 
  
  Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:55:12 -0700
  From: gmar...@marshallmedical.org
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] Requisitions
  
  We are having a discussion as to whether the requisition needs to 
  remain with the specimen at the grossing stage or can it be in a 
  separate stack on the grossing table, while the actual specimen is left in
 the on deck
  tray.   I believe I have seen something that speaks to this through the
  CAP guidelines, but am unable to find it.  Any help would be 
  appreciated.
  
  Thanks
  
  Gary
  
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