Re: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help

2014-01-14 Thread Rene J Buesa
Although many histotechs successfully use the Warhin Starry stain (or so they 
say!) I find it the most unreliable and capricious of all stains, so much so 
that I stopped using it many years ago and started using the modified Steiner 
that stains H.pylory and all Treponema and related bacteria.
The only alleged drawback of the Steiner stain is obtaining uranyl nitrate and 
its low radioactivity. To eliminate that problem I substituted it with 
phosphotungstic solution. Under separate cover I am sending you my modified 
Steiner method with phosphotungstic acid.
Another thing, I commend you for preparing your own reagents. You belong to a 
dying breed of histotechs.
René J.



From: Campbell, Tasha M. tmcampb...@fmh.org
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:55 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help


I need help with warthin starry stain please.  I am a very small lab
trying to save money so I want to make the reagents myself.  I have
sigma Aldrich dry reagents and have been making the reagents and
following the instructions correctly and I did get the stain to work
wonderfully when I first started.  Then suddenly it quit working and I
cannot get it to work again.  I have made fresh reagents day after day
and I have a pH of 3.8 for the acidulated water.  The tissue will stain
normally with the yellow to brown background and I the developing
solution turns black when it is left on paper but the h.pylori organisms
are not staining.  I am getting very frustrated and need some help
please.



Thank you.



Tasha Campbell, HTL

tmcampb...@fmh.org



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Re: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help

2014-01-14 Thread Jennifer MacDonald

Hydroquinone has a short shelf life once opened.

 On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Campbell, Tasha M. tmcampb...@fmh.org
wrote:

 I need help with warthin starry stain please.  I am a very small lab
 trying to save money so I want to make the reagents myself.  I have
 sigma Aldrich dry reagents and have been making the reagents and
 following the instructions correctly and I did get the stain to work
 wonderfully when I first started.  Then suddenly it quit working and I
 cannot get it to work again.  I have made fresh reagents day after day
 and I have a pH of 3.8 for the acidulated water.  The tissue will stain
 normally with the yellow to brown background and I the developing
 solution turns black when it is left on paper but the h.pylori organisms
 are not staining.  I am getting very frustrated and need some help
 please.



 Thank you.



 Tasha Campbell, HTL

 tmcampb...@fmh.org



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RE: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help

2014-01-14 Thread Campbell, Tasha M.
I was wondering about that.  Even in its crystal form?  I've been trying
to test every possible problem, though, and I am using a kit right now
so I have substituted the kit's hydroquinone in place of mine and used
the rest of my reagents.  It still didn't work. So this has to mean
there is another problem.  But with the entire kit's reagents it works.
I have narrowed down by substituting my reagents in for the kit's one by
one and the only combination I can get to work is using my 1% silver for
impregnation and then the kit's reagents for developing so this has to
mean that my silver is good.

 
 
 
Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP)
Frederick Gastroenterology Associates
310 W. 9th St.
Frederick, MD 21701
301-695-6800 ext. 144 (w)
304-685-9307 (c)

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer MacDonald [mailto:jmacdon...@mtsac.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:16 AM
To: Campbell, Tasha M.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help


Hydroquinone has a short shelf life once opened.

 On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Campbell, Tasha M. tmcampb...@fmh.org
wrote:

 I need help with warthin starry stain please.  I am a very small lab
 trying to save money so I want to make the reagents myself.  I have
 sigma Aldrich dry reagents and have been making the reagents and
 following the instructions correctly and I did get the stain to work
 wonderfully when I first started.  Then suddenly it quit working and I
 cannot get it to work again.  I have made fresh reagents day after day
 and I have a pH of 3.8 for the acidulated water.  The tissue will
stain
 normally with the yellow to brown background and I the developing
 solution turns black when it is left on paper but the h.pylori
organisms
 are not staining.  I am getting very frustrated and need some help
 please.



 Thank you.



 Tasha Campbell, HTL

 tmcampb...@fmh.org



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RE: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help

2014-01-14 Thread Roberta Horner
My hydroquonine was received in the lab in 1980 and it works.  As long as my 
control is positive I am allowed to keep it but then I work in a veterinary 
diagnostic lab and am not under all the regulations that those of you in 
hospitals are under.
Roberta Horner HT/HTL
Animal Diagnostic Lab
Penn State University

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jennifer 
MacDonald
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:16 AM
To: Campbell, Tasha M.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help


Hydroquinone has a short shelf life once opened.

 On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Campbell, Tasha M. tmcampb...@fmh.org
wrote:

 I need help with warthin starry stain please.  I am a very small lab 
 trying to save money so I want to make the reagents myself.  I have 
 sigma Aldrich dry reagents and have been making the reagents and 
 following the instructions correctly and I did get the stain to work 
 wonderfully when I first started.  Then suddenly it quit working and I 
 cannot get it to work again.  I have made fresh reagents day after day 
 and I have a pH of 3.8 for the acidulated water.  The tissue will 
 stain normally with the yellow to brown background and I the 
 developing solution turns black when it is left on paper but the 
 h.pylori organisms are not staining.  I am getting very frustrated and 
 need some help please.



 Thank you.



 Tasha Campbell, HTL

 tmcampb...@fmh.org



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RE: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help

2014-01-14 Thread Burton, Lynn
Same here.

Lynn M Burton
Histology
Animal Disease Lab
Galesburg, Il
309-344-2451



-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Roberta Horner
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:53 AM
To: Jennifer MacDonald; Campbell, Tasha M.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help

My hydroquonine was received in the lab in 1980 and it works.  As long as my 
control is positive I am allowed to keep it but then I work in a veterinary 
diagnostic lab and am not under all the regulations that those of you in 
hospitals are under.
Roberta Horner HT/HTL
Animal Diagnostic Lab
Penn State University

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jennifer 
MacDonald
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:16 AM
To: Campbell, Tasha M.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Warthin Starry Help


Hydroquinone has a short shelf life once opened.

 On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Campbell, Tasha M. tmcampb...@fmh.org
wrote:

 I need help with warthin starry stain please.  I am a very small lab 
 trying to save money so I want to make the reagents myself.  I have 
 sigma Aldrich dry reagents and have been making the reagents and 
 following the instructions correctly and I did get the stain to work 
 wonderfully when I first started.  Then suddenly it quit working and I 
 cannot get it to work again.  I have made fresh reagents day after day 
 and I have a pH of 3.8 for the acidulated water.  The tissue will 
 stain normally with the yellow to brown background and I the 
 developing solution turns black when it is left on paper but the 
 h.pylori organisms are not staining.  I am getting very frustrated and 
 need some help please.



 Thank you.



 Tasha Campbell, HTL

 tmcampb...@fmh.org



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