RE: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

2009-08-24 Thread Bonner, Janet
I wonder if 'storing these reagents in the refrigerator' concept originated 
with the idea of 'keeping them in the dark'.
 
Janet 



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Subject: Re: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??



There was never any reason to refrigerate gold chloride or silver nitrate. 
These compounds (solid or dissolved) can be kept for many years at room 
temperature.

If the solutions are used repeatedly they eventually deteriorate from 
contamination with bits of sections, causing a changed appearance. Gold 
solutions take on a greenish grey hue and flakes of metallic gold eventually 
settle out. These can easily be recovered and recycled to make gold chloride 
(HAuCl4) again. Clean gold chloride solutions keep for ever. I have a few 
bottles of 0.5% that are still that beautiful yellow colour after about 25 
years.

Old silver nitrate looks a bit grey, not completely colourless. Re-purifying in 
a histology lab isn't really feasible. You can precipitate out and collect the 
silver, but (strangely) refining companies don't want it. Your message 
mentioned silver and gold chloride. I don't know a histological use for 
silver chloride, which is very sensitive to light - goes grey-violet as you 
look at it.

John Kiernan
Anatomy, UWO
London, Canada
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Date: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:10
Subject: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??
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 I just noticed that my silver and gold chloride says to store at
 room temp now. I have always stored them in the refrigerator. Is
 anyone still doing this?? Old habits die hard. I want to know if
 this has caused any staining issues for anyone.

 Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
 Histology Supervisor
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 Omaha, Ne.
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RE: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

2009-08-21 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)
I know when commercial Schiff's was no longer required to be kept
refrigerated I had my doubts but it worked fine.  I am guessing this
will be the same. 


Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590 
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Subject: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

I just noticed that my silver and gold chloride says to store at room
temp now. I have always stored them in the refrigerator. Is anyone still
doing this?? Old habits die hard. I want to know if this has caused any
staining issues for anyone.

Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
Omaha, Ne.
402 738 5052



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Re: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

2009-08-21 Thread John Kiernan
There was never any reason to refrigerate gold chloride or silver nitrate. 
These compounds (solid or dissolved) can be kept for many years at room 
temperature. 
 
If the solutions are used repeatedly they eventually deteriorate from 
contamination with bits of sections, causing a changed appearance. Gold 
solutions take on a greenish grey hue and flakes of metallic gold eventually 
settle out. These can easily be recovered and recycled to make gold chloride 
(HAuCl4) again. Clean gold chloride solutions keep for ever. I have a few 
bottles of 0.5% that are still that beautiful yellow colour after about 25 
years.
 
Old silver nitrate looks a bit grey, not completely colourless. Re-purifying in 
a histology lab isn't really feasible. You can precipitate out and collect the 
silver, but (strangely) refining companies don't want it. Your message 
mentioned silver and gold chloride. I don't know a histological use for 
silver chloride, which is very sensitive to light - goes grey-violet as you 
look at it. 
 
John Kiernan
Anatomy, UWO
London, Canada
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From: Cheri Miller cmil...@physlab.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:10
Subject: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Cc: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

 I just noticed that my silver and gold chloride says to store at 
 room temp now. I have always stored them in the refrigerator. Is 
 anyone still doing this?? Old habits die hard. I want to know if 
 this has caused any staining issues for anyone.
 
 Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
 Histology Supervisor
 Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
 Omaha, Ne.
 402 738 5052
 
 
 
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