RE: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

2012-01-06 Thread Bernice Frederick
We buy our alcoholic saffron from Rowley biochemical. Already made and 
reusable. We were still using it when it hit its expiration date. You can but 
all the Movat's reagents as a kit or but what you need.
Bernice

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Senior Research Tech
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL
Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center
Northwestern University
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of gayle callis
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

Beth, 

In the past, people replied to Histonet with the suggestion to buy saffron
aka safran du gatinais from a grocery store spice section.   Depending on
where you are located e.g. a bigger city, try to find a store that sells
spices from India may have the freshest saffron.   However, you won't suffer
the sticker shock of buying it from a chemical supplier.  It still tends to
be expensive but not like chemical company prices.Once we made the
alcoholic saffron solution for Movat's pentachrome, we stored this solution
in a container with a dessicant to maintain a water free environment.   

I was fascinated that Tom actually grew and harvested saffron from the
flowers.   That is true devotion, but I suspect it was for those delicious
sounding nubbies .   

Good luck

Gayle M. Callis
HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)
Bozeman MT  

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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:02 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

Hello histonet,
I have a protocol that calls for safran du gatinais and am experiencing some 
serious sticker shock.  Can I substitute saffron in my solution or am I asking 
for trouble?

Many thanks,
Beth


Beth Villarreal
Scientist I
Novartis Institutes for BioMedical
Research, Inc.
300 Technology Square
Cambridge, MA 02139
USA


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RE: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

2012-01-05 Thread Jerry Ricks

Hi Beth,


Saffron and safran du gatinais both refer to the dried stigma of the 
saffron crocus.  They are both saffron.  I use and alcoholic extract of 
Saffron to stain collagen in Movat stains.  I've tried saffron from multiple 
sources and price definitely does not always correlate with quality.  I gave up 
on Sigma-Aldrich, for example.  The best saffron has a deep red color and is 
highly aromatic.  There are possible workarounds for the lower quality 
material--like use more saffron, or stain longer, but best to use the best.

What stain are you doing and what solution are you making with the saffron?

Jerry Ricks
Research Scientist
University of Washington
Department of Pathology



 From: beth.villarr...@novartis.com
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 20:02:21 +
 Subject: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais
 
 Hello histonet,
 I have a protocol that calls for safran du gatinais and am experiencing some 
 serious sticker shock.  Can I substitute saffron in my solution or am I 
 asking for trouble?
 
 Many thanks,
 Beth
 
 
 Beth Villarreal
 Scientist I
 Novartis Institutes for BioMedical
 Research, Inc.
 300 Technology Square
 Cambridge, MA 02139
 USA
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

2012-01-05 Thread gayle callis
Beth, 

In the past, people replied to Histonet with the suggestion to buy saffron
aka safran du gatinais from a grocery store spice section.   Depending on
where you are located e.g. a bigger city, try to find a store that sells
spices from India may have the freshest saffron.   However, you won't suffer
the sticker shock of buying it from a chemical supplier.  It still tends to
be expensive but not like chemical company prices.Once we made the
alcoholic saffron solution for Movat's pentachrome, we stored this solution
in a container with a dessicant to maintain a water free environment.   

I was fascinated that Tom actually grew and harvested saffron from the
flowers.   That is true devotion, but I suspect it was for those delicious
sounding nubbies .   

Good luck

Gayle M. Callis
HTL/HT/MT(ASCP) 
Bozeman MT  

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Villarreal,
Beth
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:02 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

Hello histonet,
I have a protocol that calls for safran du gatinais and am experiencing some
serious sticker shock.  Can I substitute saffron in my solution or am I
asking for trouble?

Many thanks,
Beth


Beth Villarreal
Scientist I
Novartis Institutes for BioMedical
Research, Inc.
300 Technology Square
Cambridge, MA 02139
USA


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