Re: [Histonet] Primary works with ABC but not IF

2008-12-10 Thread Kim Merriam
Hi Nicole,

I don't know what kind of secondary antibody you are using, but we have had 
very good luck with the Alexa-Fluor secondaries.  Often, when you go from an 
amplified chromagenic method (such as ABC) to a less-amplified staining method 
(such as with a fluorescently-labeled secondary), the primary antibody needs to 
be retitrated.  Perhaps there is not enough amplification with a directly 
labeled seconday; you may need to add another lay or do additional 
amplification, such as with tyramide - we are having very good luck with 
Invitrogen's TSA kits that contain AlexaFluor dyes.  The Perkin Elmer FITC-TSA 
kits also work well, but cost about 3X as much as Invitrogens.

If you send more information about your staining protocols, we could probably 
give you more specific advice.

Kim
 Kim Merriam, MA, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Cambridge, MA 





From: Patten, Nicole (NIH/NIAAA) [F] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:09:45 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Primary works with ABC but not IF

Hello-

I am in a situation where my primary antibody works using the ABC
method, but I do not see staining with immunofluorescence. My IF
protocol works well with other antibodies so I do not know why it's not
working with this particular antibody. Does anybody have any
suggestions?

I have considered using an avidin-Alexa Fluor conjugate but I am not
sure if this is even possible (I am new to IHC) or how I would go about
it. Would I need to first biotinylate my primary?

Does anyone have any advice/protocols? 

Thanks! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Nicole Patten
Post-Baccalaureate Fellow/IRTA
NIAAA/National Institutes of Health


___
Histonet mailing list
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet




___
Histonet mailing list
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet


Re: [Histonet] Primary works with ABC but not IF

2008-12-10 Thread John Steel
Hi All,

I do agree with titration - try this first.  You may consider 
pre-blocking before use of the primary antibody.  In my experience, tryamide 
amplification is expensive, and may not be necessary - put this on the back 
burner.  Not sure on your specific applications, but am always interested in 
saving  while focusing on quality outcomes.

Bests regards,
John Steele





From: Kim Merriam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Patten, Nicole (NIH/NIAAA) [F] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:05:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Primary works with ABC but not IF

Hi Nicole,

I don't know what kind of secondary antibody you are using, but we have had 
very good luck with the Alexa-Fluor secondaries.  Often, when you go from an 
amplified chromagenic method (such as ABC) to a less-amplified staining method 
(such as with a fluorescently-labeled secondary), the primary antibody needs to 
be retitrated.  Perhaps there is not enough amplification with a directly 
labeled seconday; you may need to add another lay or do additional 
amplification, such as with tyramide - we are having very good luck with 
Invitrogen's TSA kits that contain AlexaFluor dyes.  The Perkin Elmer FITC-TSA 
kits also work well, but cost about 3X as much as Invitrogens.

If you send more information about your staining protocols, we could probably 
give you more specific advice.

Kim
 Kim Merriam, MA, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Cambridge, MA 





From: Patten, Nicole (NIH/NIAAA) [F] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:09:45 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Primary works with ABC but not IF

Hello-

I am in a situation where my primary antibody works using the ABC
method, but I do not see staining with immunofluorescence. My IF
protocol works well with other antibodies so I do not know why it's not
working with this particular antibody.. Does anybody have any
suggestions?

I have considered using an avidin-Alexa Fluor conjugate but I am not
sure if this is even possible (I am new to IHC) or how I would go about
it. Would I need to first biotinylate my primary?

Does anyone have any advice/protocols? 

Thanks! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Nicole Patten
Post-Baccalaureate Fellow/IRTA
NIAAA/National Institutes of Health


___
Histonet mailing list
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet




___
Histonet mailing list
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet




___
Histonet mailing list
Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet