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Oh Poop I mean Damm Regards Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney Tel: 612 9845 3306 Fax: 612 9845 3318 Pathology Department the children's hospital at westmead Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Podawiltz, Thomas Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2013 4:17 AM To: Shirley A. Powell; Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI My current lab the air exchange rate is 58/hr. The good news: you do not smell fumes of any kind. The bad news: we are negative pressure and the unvented bathrooms are just outside our lab. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:42 AM To: Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out. Thank goodness those days are gone. Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get. :) Shirley Powell -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K. Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she said she couldn't stand to be next to me! So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!! Joyce Weems Pathology Manager 678-843-7376 Phone 678-843-7831 Fax joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org www.saintjosephsatlanta.org 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta, GA 30342 This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Saint Joseph's Hospital and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM To: 'Lee & Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I remember participating in the health study in the 80's. Xylene and Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs. If our hospitals/research centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health. I can name at least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer. Yes, it may have been when they were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in histology before safety became a priority. I know others will remember no ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed through lack of knowledge. I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity. Hazel Horn Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax hor...@archildrens.org archildrens.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Couple of studies that I know of. One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH Symposiums, and did different
RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI
Oh joy!!! Joyce Weems Pathology Manager 678-843-7376 Phone 678-843-7831 Fax joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org www.saintjosephsatlanta.org 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta, GA 30342 This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Saint Joseph's Hospital and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. -Original Message- From: Podawiltz, Thomas [mailto:tpodawi...@lrgh.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:17 PM To: Shirley A. Powell; Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI My current lab the air exchange rate is 58/hr. The good news: you do not smell fumes of any kind. The bad news: we are negative pressure and the unvented bathrooms are just outside our lab. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:42 AM To: Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out. Thank goodness those days are gone. Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get. :) Shirley Powell -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K. Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she said she couldn't stand to be next to me! So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!! Joyce Weems Pathology Manager 678-843-7376 Phone 678-843-7831 Fax joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org www.saintjosephsatlanta.org 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta, GA 30342 This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Saint Joseph's Hospital and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM To: 'Lee & Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I remember participating in the health study in the 80's. Xylene and Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs. If our hospitals/research centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health. I can name at least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer. Yes, it may have been when they were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in histology before safety became a priority. I know others will remember no ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed through lack of knowledge. I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity. Hazel Horn Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax hor...@archildrens.org archildrens.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Couple of studies that I know of. One was sponsored by
RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link NO PHI
My current lab the air exchange rate is 58/hr. The good news: you do not smell fumes of any kind. The bad news: we are negative pressure and the unvented bathrooms are just outside our lab. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:42 AM To: Weems, Joyce K.; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out. Thank goodness those days are gone. Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get. :) Shirley Powell -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K. Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she said she couldn't stand to be next to me! So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!! Joyce Weems Pathology Manager 678-843-7376 Phone 678-843-7831 Fax joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org www.saintjosephsatlanta.org 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta, GA 30342 This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Saint Joseph's Hospital and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM To: 'Lee & Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I remember participating in the health study in the 80's. Xylene and Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs. If our hospitals/research centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health. I can name at least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer. Yes, it may have been when they were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in histology before safety became a priority. I know others will remember no ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed through lack of knowledge. I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity. Hazel Horn Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax hor...@archildrens.org archildrens.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Couple of studies that I know of. One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium and dexterity than the general population. In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, someone else being exposed to the same amount mi
RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
I had the same experience, the clinical lab techs asked the supervisor to keep our door closed so they would not have to smell the fumes, just lock us up in it. I was considering calling EPA in to check it out. Thank goodness those days are gone. Use those fume hoods and all the other ppe you can get. :) Shirley Powell -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K. Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:57 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she said she couldn't stand to be next to me! So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!! Joyce Weems Pathology Manager 678-843-7376 Phone 678-843-7831 Fax joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org www.saintjosephsatlanta.org 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta, GA 30342 This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Saint Joseph's Hospital and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM To: 'Lee & Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I remember participating in the health study in the 80's. Xylene and Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs. If our hospitals/research centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health. I can name at least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer. Yes, it may have been when they were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in histology before safety became a priority. I know others will remember no ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed through lack of knowledge. I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity. Hazel Horn Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax hor...@archildrens.org archildrens.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Couple of studies that I know of. One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium and dexterity than the general population. In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would say therefore the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed to formaldehyde. But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due another chemical, or due to the fact that at the same time, people were smoking in the lab I was working in, which was a small space. Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy outcomes following gestation
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I worked in a non-ventilated lab once - back in the 70s - just before the xylene study was released. I knew something was wrong and I knew it was xylene and finally was able to get an exhaust put in the window . I could taste it, smell it, and seemed to cough it up!! And my brain was fuzzier than my usual fuzz! The lab director's office was next to my lab and she moved, because she said she couldn't stand to be next to me! So thankful for good regs now and labs since then that have been very well ventilated. We have come a long way, baby!! Joyce Weems Pathology Manager 678-843-7376 Phone 678-843-7831 Fax joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org www.saintjosephsatlanta.org 5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Road Atlanta, GA 30342 This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Saint Joseph's Hospital and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Horn, Hazel V Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:52 AM To: 'Lee & Peggy Wenk'; Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I remember participating in the health study in the 80's. Xylene and Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs. If our hospitals/research centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health. I can name at least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer. Yes, it may have been when they were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in histology before safety became a priority. I know others will remember no ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed through lack of knowledge. I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity. Hazel Horn Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax hor...@archildrens.org archildrens.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Couple of studies that I know of. One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium and dexterity than the general population. In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would say therefore the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed to formaldehyde. But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due another chemical, or due to the fact that at the same time, people were smoking in the lab I was working in, which was a small space. Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy outcomes following gestational exposure to organic solvents. They interview women who were pregnant and working with organic solvent, so painters for example, so not histotechs only. They compared them to women of same age, same number of children, similar profession not exposed to organic solvents. They found that if the exposed women were having symptoms (breathing problems, rashes), they had a higher percentage of miscarriages and babies with deformities. If there were no symptoms, they had the same, and even lower, percentages than comparable women giving birth who were not exposed. What histology needs is something like
Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
I remember the study and some fairly important people in NSH at the time thinking it was a little overblown. It was not followed up on at the time just a report in JOH and done. I have been in Histology many years (about 50) and like Hazel have seen many of the ones even older than us die of cancer or organ failure. Histology is safer than it has ever been however; I am not sure people really pay enough attention to the dangers with chemicals and tissue that is not well fixed. I remember people smoking in labs, eating (even in the autopsy suite) and having a cup of coffee or soda at the microtome. One of my pathologists told us to clean paraffin off our hands with xylene like he did. We have come a long way just not far enough. Pam Marcum - Original Message - From: "Hazel V Horn" To: "Lee & Peggy Wenk" , "Elizabeth Cameron" , histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:52:13 AM Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link I remember participating in the health study in the 80's. Xylene and Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs. If our hospitals/research centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health. I can name at least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer. Yes, it may have been when they were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in histology before safety became a priority. I know others will remember no ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed through lack of knowledge. I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity. Hazel Horn Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax hor...@archildrens.org archildrens.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Couple of studies that I know of. One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium and dexterity than the general population. In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would say therefore the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed to formaldehyde. But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due another chemical, or due to the fact that at the same time, people were smoking in the lab I was working in, which was a small space. Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy outcomes following gestational exposure to organic solvents. They interview women who were pregnant and working with organic solvent, so painters for example, so not histotechs only. They compared them to women of same age, same number of children, similar profession not exposed to organic solvents. They found that if the exposed women were having symptoms (breathing problems, rashes), they had a higher percentage of miscarriages and babies with deformities. If there were no symptoms, they had the same, and even lower, percentages than comparable women giving birth who were not exposed. What histology needs is something like the nursing organization in the US has been doing for over 40 years. Everyone who is a member of the nursing society is sent a survey (I think every year), and asked to have physicals information released from their doctors to the organization (It's voluntary to participate). But they have 40+ years of data from hundred of thousands of women, of all ages. They can mine a wealth of medical data from this. NSH (and ASCP) may
RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link
I remember participating in the health study in the 80's. Xylene and Formaldehyde levels are monitored in all labs. If our hospitals/research centers would allow us to forward that information on to someone who could compile data it would be a starting place for a health study. I strongly believe this profession can be danger to health. I can name at least 10 histotechs who have died from cancer. Yes, it may have been when they were older but I feel certain it was from all the chemical exposure in histology before safety became a priority. I know others will remember no ventilation, smoking and eating in the lab, no real requirements for gloves, etc. There were also no MSDS information available and we were exposed through lack of knowledge. I believe the lab is much safer today with all of the safety precautions we take and the knowledge we have on chemicals/stains and their toxicity. Hazel Horn Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax hor...@archildrens.org archildrens.org -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: Elizabeth Cameron; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Couple of studies that I know of. One was sponsored by NSH in the mid-1980's. KH Kilburn came to several NSH Symposiums, and did different tests on people who volunteered to participate. Published findings in the late 1980's that said that histotechs had lower pulmonary function than average population, and decreased memory, equilibrium and dexterity than the general population. In Letters to the Editor, people pointed out statistical flaws (low numbers of participants, for example). I also feel there were flaws, such as testing people after traveling over time zones, who were up late at the parties, and had possibly been drinking the night before. There was no way to measure how much exposure to formaldehyde or xylene people were really exposed to. I didn't participate, but if I though the amount I was being exposed to was medium, someone else being exposed to the same amount might have said low amount and someone else could have said high amount. And the studies would say therefore the low pulmonary exposure was due to histotechs being exposed to formaldehyde. But who could say it was due to that chemical, and not due another chemical, or due to the fact that at the same time, people were smoking in the lab I was working in, which was a small space. Another study somewhat relates - S Khattak in 1999 wrote one on pregnancy outcomes following gestational exposure to organic solvents. They interview women who were pregnant and working with organic solvent, so painters for example, so not histotechs only. They compared them to women of same age, same number of children, similar profession not exposed to organic solvents. They found that if the exposed women were having symptoms (breathing problems, rashes), they had a higher percentage of miscarriages and babies with deformities. If there were no symptoms, they had the same, and even lower, percentages than comparable women giving birth who were not exposed. What histology needs is something like the nursing organization in the US has been doing for over 40 years. Everyone who is a member of the nursing society is sent a survey (I think every year), and asked to have physicals information released from their doctors to the organization (It's voluntary to participate). But they have 40+ years of data from hundred of thousands of women, of all ages. They can mine a wealth of medical data from this. NSH (and ASCP) may not have enough histotechs in their organization to pay for the type of survey needed, to continue on for decades. We would need supervisors and bench techs to participate for decades. And probably have to mail them several formaldehyde and xylene monitors every year, or every couple of years, to collect real numbers of how much people were exposed to. And the surveys were pages and pages long (my mother was a nurse who participated from the beginning, so I've seen them), and asked lots of questions about health and diet and smoking and personal issues, in addition to questions about what types of chemical we work with an how much and how often. And how do we measure ventilation in all these places of work? I hope someone comes up with some studies that can help us figure out if histotechs are being exposed to enough chemicals that could be causing these different diseases in humans. There are animal studies, but not human. And remember, people in general, including histotechs, are living longer. If we live longer, we a
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enter San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM To: Histonet Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a histotechs was 20 years from hiring. That scared me but I was already hooked. I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. Shirley Powell Antique Histotech -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now! With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely! And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS! Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT President Excalibur Pathology, Inc. 5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address! Norman, OK 73069 405-759-3953 Lab 405-759-7513 Fax www.excaliburpathology.com From: "Morken, Timothy" To: 'Mike Tighe' ; "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)" Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Great. Just what we need. Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has such good ventilation (ie., extraction) that there is none of the usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed. Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number One!!! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html Mike ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet The information in this email, including attachments, may be confidential and is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you believe you received this email by mistake, please notify the sender by return email as soon as possible. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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I agree! If everyone adheres to safe practices we will make it into our "golden years". Let's bring back our NSH health studies~ Vivian McClure would love for us to continue the studies. Mike Ayers and Shirley Powell have been my mentors through the years (36 plus years for me) Thank you Mike,Shirley, and Billie Swisherand all my NSH "angels" that paved the way for us "HistoKids" Now everyone take a walk and get a breath of fresh air~ Wanda The Original HistoKid > ---Original Message--- > From: Ingles Claire > To: Histonet > Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link > Sent: Dec 03 '13 19:05 > > > Old Histologists never die, they're just well fixed... > Claire > > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Morken, Timothy [timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:22 AM > To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; Histonet > Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link > > Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! > (from an old Georgia Society hand). > > Tim Morken > Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies > UC San Francisco Medical Center > San Francisco, CA > > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM > To: Histonet > Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link > > When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a > histotechs was 20 years from hiring. That scared me but I was already hooked. I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. > > Shirley Powell > Antique Histotech > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM > To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet > Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link > > Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now! > > With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely! > > > > > And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS! > > Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT > President > Excalibur Pathology, Inc. > 5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address! > Norman, OK 73069 > 405-759-3953 Lab > 405-759-7513 Fax > www.excaliburpathology.com > > > > From: "Morken, Timothy" > To: 'Mike Tighe' ; > "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)" > Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM > Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link > > > Great. Just what we need. > > > Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) > 6] * 3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has such good ventilation (ie., extraction) that there is none of the usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed. > > Tim Morken > Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies > UC San Francisco Medical Center > San Francisco, CA > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM > To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) > Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link > > Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number > One!!! > > > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html > > > > Mike > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.ut
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Good one, Pam! :-) Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra HT(ASCP)QIHC Isis Pharmaceuticals Antisense Drug Discovery 2855 Gazelle Ct. Carlsbad, CA 92010 760-603-2371 -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Pam Barker Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:48 AM To: 'Shirley A. Powell'; 'Morken, Timothy' Cc: 'Histonet' Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Maybe it's all the chemicals that keep all of the lovely ladies of histology so well preserved :) Thanks-Pam Right Place, Right Time, Right Move with RELIA! Thank You! Pam M. Barker Pam Barker President/Senior Recruiting Specialist-Histology RELIA Solutions Specialists in Allied Healthcare Recruiting 5703 Red Bug Lake Road #330 Winter Springs, FL 32708-4969 Phone: (407)657-2027 Cell: (407)353-5070 FAX: (407)678-2788 E-mail: rel...@earthlink.net www.facebook.com/PamBarkerRELIA www.linkedin.com/in/reliasolutions www.twitter.com/pamatrelia -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:26 PM To: Morken, Timothy Cc: Histonet Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Thanks Tim. You are sweet. People keep asking me when I was going to retire and I told them never, they will have to carry me out feet first. I think loving my job has kept me going this long. :) sp -Original Message- From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:22 PM To: Shirley A. Powell; Histonet Subject: RE: Yahoo link Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! (from an old Georgia Society hand). Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM To: Histonet Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a histotechs was 20 years from hiring. That scared me but I was already hooked. I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. Shirley Powell Antique Histotech -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now! With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely! And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS! Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT President Excalibur Pathology, Inc. 5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address! Norman, OK 73069 405-759-3953 Lab 405-759-7513 Fax www.excaliburpathology.com From: "Morken, Timothy" To: 'Mike Tighe' ; "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)" Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Great. Just what we need. Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has such good ventilation (ie., extraction) that there is none of the usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed. Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number One!!! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-hea lth-155706120.html Mike ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.u
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Maybe it's all the chemicals that keep all of the lovely ladies of histology so well preserved :) Thanks-Pam Right Place, Right Time, Right Move with RELIA! Thank You! Pam M. Barker Pam Barker President/Senior Recruiting Specialist-Histology RELIA Solutions Specialists in Allied Healthcare Recruiting 5703 Red Bug Lake Road #330 Winter Springs, FL 32708-4969 Phone: (407)657-2027 Cell: (407)353-5070 FAX: (407)678-2788 E-mail: rel...@earthlink.net www.facebook.com/PamBarkerRELIA www.linkedin.com/in/reliasolutions www.twitter.com/pamatrelia -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:26 PM To: Morken, Timothy Cc: Histonet Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Thanks Tim. You are sweet. People keep asking me when I was going to retire and I told them never, they will have to carry me out feet first. I think loving my job has kept me going this long. :) sp -Original Message- From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:22 PM To: Shirley A. Powell; Histonet Subject: RE: Yahoo link Well, Shirley, you are actually an Angel, so nothing will ever stop you!! (from an old Georgia Society hand). Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shirley A. Powell Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:18 AM To: Histonet Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link When I entered the profession I was told the average life expectancy of a histotechs was 20 years from hiring. That scared me but I was already hooked. I have been doing this 51 years, so maybe good laboratory practices can help, in spite of bad ventilation and all those other dangers mentioned. Shirley Powell Antique Histotech -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Pierce Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40 AM To: Morken, Timothy; Histonet Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now! With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely! And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS! Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT President Excalibur Pathology, Inc. 5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address! Norman, OK 73069 405-759-3953 Lab 405-759-7513 Fax www.excaliburpathology.com From: "Morken, Timothy" To: 'Mike Tighe' ; "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)" Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Great. Just what we need. Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has such good ventilation (ie., extraction) that there is none of the usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed. Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number One!!! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-hea lth-155706120.html Mike ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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Just what I was thinking. We will never get enough new students now! With proper training and equipment, we do the job safely! And you can drown in an inch of water. Is that in the MSDS! Paula K. Pierce, HTL(ASCP)HT President Excalibur Pathology, Inc. 5830 N Blue Lake Dr. Please note new address! Norman, OK 73069 405-759-3953 Lab 405-759-7513 Fax www.excaliburpathology.com From: "Morken, Timothy" To: 'Mike Tighe' ; "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu)" Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: [Histonet] RE: Yahoo link Great. Just what we need. Even so, we in the business can take these lists with a grain of K4[Fe(CN) 6] * 3H 2 O since we know that suitable precautions preclude most of the danger. For instance, I'll have to say that the histo lab here is wonderful in that it has such good ventilation (ie., extraction) that there is none of the usual chemical smell - no xylene, alcohol, specials chemicals that often assaults the senses in histology. Vendors that come here are amazed. Tim Morken Supervisor, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies UC San Francisco Medical Center San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're Number One!!! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html Mike ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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Wow,didn't expect that one! -Damien L. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Bea DeBrosse-Serra < bdebrosse-se...@isisph.com> wrote: > What an eye opener! > > Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra HT(ASCP)QIHC > Isis Pharmaceuticals > Antisense Drug Discovery > 2855 Gazelle Ct. > Carlsbad, CA 92010 > 760-603-2371 > > > > > -Original Message- > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto: > histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tighe > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:31 AM > To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu (histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu) > Subject: [Histonet] Yahoo link > > Anybody wonder who has the most harzardous job to your health? We're > Number One!!! > > > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-15-jobs-that-are-most-damaging-to-your-health-155706120.html > > > > Mike > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > > ___ > Histonet mailing list > Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet > -- Damien Laudier Laudier Histology www.LaudierHistology.com ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet