H-Net* ARE AMERICANS THE VICTIMS OF A HOAX?

2001-10-23 Terurut Topik oon



What Really Happened.com10-23-01http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hoax.htmlThe 
time has come to stop using the flag as a blindfold, to stop waving our guns and 
our gods at each other, to take a close look at the facts which have emerged 
from the attacks on the World Trade Towers and to recognize the very real 
possibility, indeed probability, that We The People are the victims of a 
gigantic and deadly hoax.
In a normal terrorist event, the terrorists 
cannot wait to take credit, in order to link the violence to the socio-political 
intent of the terrorist organization. Yet the prime suspect in the New York 
Towers case, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden (whose brother is one of George W. 
Bush's Texas business partners), has issued only two statements regarding the 
September 11th attacks, and both of those are denials of any 
involvement.
Huge problems are emerging in the official view 
of events. It's known that the United States was planning an invasion of 
Afghanistan long before the attacks on the World Trade Towers. Indeed the 
attacks on the World Trade Towers perfectly fit the timetable of an invasion by 
October stated by US officials just last summer.
The 19 names of suspected hijackers released by 
the FBI don't point to Afghanistan. They come from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, United 
Arab Emirates; all across the middle east without a focus in any one region. 
Indeed, even as the FBI was admitting that its list of 19 names was based solely 
on identifications thought to have been forged, Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister 
Prince Saudi Al-Faisal insisted that an investigation in Saudi Arabia showed 
that the 5 Saudi men were not aboard the four jetliners that crashed in New 
York, Virginia and Pennsylvania on September 11. "It was proved that five of the 
names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened," Al-Faisal 
told the Arabic Press in Washington after meeting with U.S. President George W. 
Bush at the White House. A sixth identified hijacker is also reported to still 
be alive in Tunisia, while a 7th named man died two years ago!In a recent 
development, the BBC is reporting that the transcript of a phone call made by 
Flight Attendant Madeline Amy Sweeney to Boston air traffic controls shows that 
the flight attendant gave the seat numbers occupied by the hijackers, seat 
numbers which were NOT the seats of the men the FBI claimed were responsible for 
the hijacking!
FBI Chief Robert Mueller admitted on September 
20 and on September 27 that at this time the FBI has no legal proof to prove the 
true identities of the suicidal hijackers. Yet in the haste to move forward on 
the already planned war in Afghanistan, our government and the FBI (which does 
not have the best record for honesty in investigations to begin with, having 
been caught rigging lab tests, manufacturing testimony in the Vincent Foster 
affair, and illegally withholding/destroying evidence in the Oklahoma Bombing 
case) are not taking too close a look at evidence that points away from the 
designated suspect, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden.In particular, the FBI, 
too busy harassing political dissenters to find spies in its midst, the long 
rumored mole inside the White House, or plug leaks in high-tech flowing to 
foreign nations, has willfully and criminally ignored the implications of some 
vital pieces of information the FBI is itself waving around at the 
public.
We are being told that this crack team of 
terrorists, able to breeze past airport security as if it wasn't there, wound up 
leaving so much evidence in its wake that the bumbling Inspector Clouseau (or 
the FBI) could not fail to stumble over it. The locations where the terrorists 
supposedly stayed are so overloaded with damning materials that they resemble 
less a crimes scene, and more a "B" detective movie set, with vital clues always 
on prominent display for the cameras.
Yet another problem lies with the described 
actions of the hijackers themselves. We are being told on the one hand that 
these men were such fanatical devotees of their faith that they willingly 
crashed the jets they were flying into buildings. Yet on the other hand, we are 
being told that these same men spent the night before their planned visit to 
Allah drinking in strip bars, committing not just one, but two mortal sins which 
would keep them out of Paradise no matter what else they did. Truly devout 
Muslims would spend the day before a suicide attack fasting and praying. Not 
only does the drinking in strip bars not fit the profile of a fanatically 
religious Muslim willing to die for his cause, but the witness reports of the 
men in the bars are of men going out of their way to be noticed and remembered, 
while waving around phony identifications.
Because of the facts of the phony 
identifications, we don't really know who was on those planes. What we do know 
is that the men on those planes went to a great deal of trouble to steal the 
identities of 

H-Net* A Map Of Zionism In America And Russia

2001-10-22 Terurut Topik oon



Posted By: justinDate: Monday, 22 October 2001, 
at 6:54 p.m.
Bill White Commentary -- I got a copy today of JJ 
Goldberg's book Jewish Power. Rather than repeat all the information offered, I 
thought I would provide an overview and some links, and allow readers to confirm 
all this for themselves.
For those who don't believe that the various 
Zionist and religious-Jewish organizations come together to generate policy, you 
have obviously not heard (as I hadn't) of the National Jewish Community 
Relations Advisory Council. Let me allow Mr Goldberg, who is a journalist in 
Israel and America, and who is editor of the Jewish community magazine Forward, 
to describe this group to you:"The council, known by the Jaw Breaking title 
of the National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council, or NCRAC 
(pronounced "nacrac"), is nothing less than the central policy making council of 
the organized American Jewish community. Its membership includes a dozen of the 
most powerful and broadly representative groups on the national Jewish scene: 
the three main synagogue unions, Reform, Conservative, and Orothodox; the three 
main "defense agencies," Anti-Defamation League, American Jewish Committee, and 
American Jewish Congress; and the three largest Jewish women's groups, Hadassah, 
the National Council on Jewish Women, and Women's American ORT. Also included, 
along with a handful of other national bodies, are 117 local community councils, 
representing the world of Jewish federated charities and their 
donors."
Ah. And what do these groups do? Mr Goldberg tells 
us:"MCRAC's policy positions are hammed out in intense, year-long 
negotiations among the agencies, then boted on at the council's annual assembly 
and published each fall in a booklet, the Joint Program Plan. ... The 
eighty-four page plan for 1992 included, along with ten pages on Israel and 
eight pages onanti-Semitism in Russia and the Arab world, no less than six 
pages on public- school education, six pages on abortion rights and the status 
of women, four pages on poverty, three pages each on immigration policy, federal 
courts, and universal health care, and four pages on the environment."So 
what is being said is that ALL THE JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS IN AMERICA REALLY DO 
MEET ONCE A YEAR AND DECIDE ON A JOINT POLITICAL PLATFORM. Wow. :-OI am 
still trying to absorb that.
In my recent article for Pravda on the Jewish 
lobby, someone told me that the Jewish lobby in America didn't have an official 
position on gun control. Mr Goldberg disagrees, stating, "The 1994 plan added 
teo pages entitled 'Gun Control and Violence,' plus a four page section titled 
'Constitutional Protections in a Pluralistic Democracy.' These protections 
addressed issuesranging from the death penalty and homosecxual right to term 
limits, campaign- finance reform, and congressionaln redistricting."So 
American Jewry, meaning all the synagogues and all the formal Jewish power 
structure, actually does have a written program which it issues each year and 
which all organizations adhere to. So if you are wondering why, say Orthodox 
Jewish congregations are not active on issues like abortion and homosexuality 
with conservative Christian churches, it is because they have coordinated with 
all the other Jewish community groups in America not to be active on those 
issues. And if you are wondering why you see all the Jewish organizations 
working together on issues like undermining the Second Amendment and banning 
guns, it is because ALL JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTRY MEET ANNUALLY TO 
DECIDE WHAT TO THINK ON THESE ISSUES.Wow. I keep putting that in capitals 
because it blows me away.
Those who would like to read Mr Goldberg's 
book, in which he goes into detail on how Jewish organizations did a lot of 
things, from blocking pro-Christian educational legislation to forcing George 
Bush Sr out of office, you can buy this book here:http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=0ECNF1A6SImscssidHUB0V7SLNB9K8PW2P4H5244KFWB5DEACisbn=0201327988Now 
Mr Goldberg does point out that not all Jews follow this line. "The NCRAC agenda 
provokes widespread resentment among Jewish activists at the grassroots." In 
particular, he points to a growing racist movement among Jews that want NCRAC to 
denounce blacks as the course of crime in America, and wants NCRAC to recognize 
that "Islam [is] the enemy of Judaism".Sounds like a pleasant group of 
folks.
Let's hear what one rabbi has to say about abortion 
in the Jewish religion in Mr Goldberg's book:"In rabbinic canon law, .. 
human life does not simply begin at conception. It develops gradually, acquiring 
greater legal protection as the fetus gains viability. Development continues 
even after birth, he added paranthetically; an infant that dies before the 
eighth day does receive a Jewish funeral."In any case, ... Judaism rules 
that the morth's needsautomatically take precedent until the moment of 
birth. 'There is 

Re: H-Net* langkah bendul

2001-09-05 Terurut Topik oon


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Assalamualaikum

Emm... saya masih kurang jelas dalam perkara ini...
Adat langkah bendul ni disudut mana karutnya dan bahagian mana pulak yang
terkeluar dari landasan Islam?

Apa yang saya lihat dan pahami langkah bendul ini hanyalah satu adat bukan
ibadat.
Mengikut hukum sesuatu adat itu selagi ia tidak bercanggah dengan syarak
boleh diamalkan
dan boleh juga ditinggalkan. Jika mampu maka perbuatlah ia. Jika tidak
tinggalkan lah ia.

Pada saya ia elok lah diamalkan. Hati kakak kena jaga la jugak. Bila adik
kawin dulu tentu la kakak sedih.
Walaupun pemberian tak seberapa. Tapi sekurang-kurangnya dia tak la
diketepikan.

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From: zulkefli hashim [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Adat tak boleh langkah bendul mengarut dan terkeluar dari landasan Islam.
 Percaya kepada pantang larang adat tersebut menjadikan kita percaya kepada
 benda karut dan dilarang dalam islam.

 Juga adat yang tidak membenarkan 2 orang anak berkahwin pada tahun yang
 sama, juga karut.

 Sedangkan Nabi menikahkan 2 anak perempuan pada hari yang sama.




 
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