Re: [H-Net* Siapakah Gus Dur pemimpin negara Islam Indonesia ?]

1999-12-24 Terurut Topik Sani Norku


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To Muhajir,

Mereka sudah cuba menasihati Gus Dur ...

HUBUNGAN INDONESIA DGN ISRAEL

III. Beberapa Aspek Lain Yang Perlu Dipertimbangkan. 

Diantaranya: 

1. Dalam memutuskan sesuatu perkara, terdapat kaedah
usul fiqih bahwa menolak kejahatan atau kerusakan itu
lebih diutamakan dari pada mengambil kebaikan.Yakni
suatu perkara yang hendak dilakukan itu hendaklah
dinilai dari dua sudut : sudut baik dan sudut tidak
baiknya. Sekiranya kebaikannya lebih kecil
dibandingkan kerusakannya, maka menolak kerusakan itu
lebih utama dari pada menerima kebaikannya. Dalam
kasus hubungan dengan Israel, kami melihat kebaikannya
itu ada, tapi kerusakannya lebih besar. Kebaikannya
ialah dapat berbaik-baik dengan sejagad dan
memungkinkan keuntungan dari segi ekonomi, manakala
keburukannya ialah umat Islam di seluruh dunia sedang
memulaukan (mengasingkan) Israel. Dia dianggap musuh
tradisi. Israel banyak  melakukan kekejaman di negara
umat Islam. Sebagai contoh besarnya lihat apa yang
sedang terjadi di Palestina. Lukanya perasaan umat
Islam tidak mudah untuk diobati. 

--- ibnu muhajir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 salam~
 
 ingatkan nak lari dari Kristian Megawati, tup-tup
 masuk perangkap Yahudi Gus
 Dur.
 
 Hati2lah pengikut2 Abuya. Gus Dur dgn
 makhinzir@kutty tu 2X 5 aje. Malah Gus
 Dur pernah jadi pegetua Yayasan Simon Peres Yahudi
 yg dilaknat Allah.
 
 wslm

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RE: [H-Net* Siapakah Gus Dur pemimpin negara Islam Indonesia ?]

1999-12-22 Terurut Topik Ibrahim, Afta Nizam


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Asm

Dari sini, perlulah kita sedari bahawa pergerakan Jahiliyyah telah pun
menguasai keseluruh ceruk di muka bumi ini.
Bagaimana pula dengan umat Islam  jemaah Islam ? 

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Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 2:11 AM
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ingatkan nak lari dari Kristian Megawati, tup-tup masuk perangkap Yahudi Gus
Dur.

Hati2lah pengikut2 Abuya. Gus Dur dgn makhinzir@kutty tu 2X 5 aje. Malah Gus
Dur pernah jadi pegetua Yayasan Simon Peres Yahudi yg dilaknat Allah.

wslm


Asiah Abdullah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 aaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:12:30 +0300
 To: (Recipient list suppressed)
 From: aaa 
 Subject: TRUE COLOURS OF INDONESIAN RULER!
 
 Assalamu 'alaikum
 With rulers like these, who needs enemies?
 
 Wahid's links with Israel should not be a surprise
 ^^
 http://www.muslimedia.com/zion-indo.htm
 
 Indonesian president Abdur Rahman Wahid raised eyebrows on December 4 when
 he told his new economic affairs commission that Israel had agreed to
 invest $200 million in Indonesia.
 
 
 He was quoted in the Jakarta Post as saying: "I told them, and they
 themselves agreed, not to directly invest but rather do it through a third
 party. They agreed to do it through a Dutch or US company." 
 
 Wahid had previously expressed support for commercial links with the
 zionist state, although not diplomatic relations, but no-one had expected
 that an agreement would be reached so quickly. It was probably done when
 he visited Washington last month.
 
 
 However, Wahid got in trouble for telling the Far Eastern Economic Review
 that Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had asked him to foster
 closer ties with Israel. The Malaysian government strongly denied the
 report, saying that "Malaysia's position is clear: we have no intention of
 establioshing diplomatic or commercial ties with Israel."
 
 
 However, a Malaysian commentator said that the allegation rang true.
 "Malaysia has encouraged sporting and other links with Israel. Probably
 the only difference is that Wahid is naive enough to admit his plans,
 despite the precaution of routing the funds through a US or Dutch
 company." 
 
 Abdur Rahman Wahid has long been regarded by some as a opportunist, whose
 Islamic credentials are largely sham. He failed to graduate from Al-Azhar,
 where he was known for his fondness for western films, particularly French
 ones.
 
 
 He also likes western music, dancing and night-life; he celebrated his
 election as head of Indonesia's Nahdhatul Ulama with a party at
 Casablanca, a well-known Jakarta nightclub; some of his guests were so
 shocked that they left early. Muslims should expect little from him; even
 then they might be disappointed.
 
 
 
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Re: [H-Net* Siapakah Gus Dur pemimpin negara Islam Indonesia ?]

1999-12-21 Terurut Topik ibnu muhajir


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salam~

ingatkan nak lari dari Kristian Megawati, tup-tup masuk perangkap Yahudi Gus
Dur.

Hati2lah pengikut2 Abuya. Gus Dur dgn makhinzir@kutty tu 2X 5 aje. Malah Gus
Dur pernah jadi pegetua Yayasan Simon Peres Yahudi yg dilaknat Allah.

wslm


Asiah Abdullah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 aaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:12:30 +0300
 To: (Recipient list suppressed)
 From: aaa 
 Subject: TRUE COLOURS OF INDONESIAN RULER!
 
 Assalamu 'alaikum
 With rulers like these, who needs enemies?
 
 Wahid's links with Israel should not be a surprise
 ^^
 http://www.muslimedia.com/zion-indo.htm
 
 Indonesian president Abdur Rahman Wahid raised eyebrows on December 4 when
 he told his new economic affairs commission that Israel had agreed to
 invest $200 million in Indonesia.
 
 
 He was quoted in the Jakarta Post as saying: "I told them, and they
 themselves agreed, not to directly invest but rather do it through a third
 party. They agreed to do it through a Dutch or US company." 
 
 Wahid had previously expressed support for commercial links with the
 zionist state, although not diplomatic relations, but no-one had expected
 that an agreement would be reached so quickly. It was probably done when
 he visited Washington last month.
 
 
 However, Wahid got in trouble for telling the Far Eastern Economic Review
 that Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had asked him to foster
 closer ties with Israel. The Malaysian government strongly denied the
 report, saying that "Malaysia's position is clear: we have no intention of
 establioshing diplomatic or commercial ties with Israel."
 
 
 However, a Malaysian commentator said that the allegation rang true.
 "Malaysia has encouraged sporting and other links with Israel. Probably
 the only difference is that Wahid is naive enough to admit his plans,
 despite the precaution of routing the funds through a US or Dutch
 company." 
 
 Abdur Rahman Wahid has long been regarded by some as a opportunist, whose
 Islamic credentials are largely sham. He failed to graduate from Al-Azhar,
 where he was known for his fondness for western films, particularly French
 ones.
 
 
 He also likes western music, dancing and night-life; he celebrated his
 election as head of Indonesia's Nahdhatul Ulama with a party at
 Casablanca, a well-known Jakarta nightclub; some of his guests were so
 shocked that they left early. Muslims should expect little from him; even
 then they might be disappointed.
 
 
 
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H-Net* Siapakah Gus Dur pemimpin negara Islam Indonesia ?

1999-12-21 Terurut Topik Asiah Abdullah


aaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:12:30 +0300To: (Recipient list suppressed)From: aaa<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TRUE COLOURS OF INDONESIAN RULER!Assalamu 'alaikumWith rulers like these, who needs enemies?Wahid's links with Israel should not be a surprise^^http://www.muslimedia.com/zion-indo.htmIndonesian president Abdur Rahman Wahid raised eyebrows on December 4 whenhe told his new economic affairs commission that Israel had agreed toinvest $200 million in Indonesia.He was quoted in the Jakarta Post as saying: I told them, and theythemselves agreed, not to directly invest but rather do it through a thirdparty. They agreed to do it through a Dutch or US company. Wahid had previously expressed support for commercial links with thezionist state, although not diplomatic relations, but no-one had expectedthat an agreement would be r!
!
eached so quickly. It was probably done whenhe visited Washington last month.However, Wahid got in trouble for telling the Far Eastern Economic Reviewthat Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had asked him to fostercloser ties with Israel. The Malaysian government strongly denied thereport, saying that Malaysia's position is clear: we have no intention ofestablioshing diplomatic or commercial ties with Israel.However, a Malaysian commentator said that the allegation rang true.Malaysia has encouraged sporting and other links with Israel. Probablythe only difference is that Wahid is naive enough to admit his plans,despite the precaution of routing the funds through a US or Dutchcompany. Abdur Rahman Wahid has long been regarded by some as a opportunist, whoseIslamic credentials are largely sham. He failed to graduate from Al-Azhar,where he was known for his fondness for weste!
!
rn films, particularly Frenchones.He also likes western music, dancing and night-life; he celebrated hiselection as head of Indonesia's Nahdhatul Ulama with a party atCasablanca, a well-known Jakarta nightclub; some of his guests were soshocked that they left early. Muslims should expect little from him; eventhen they might be disappointed.
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1999-12-21 Terurut Topik ibnu muhajir


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ingatkan nak lari dari Kristian Megawati, tup-tup masuk perangkap Yahudi Gus
Dur.

Hati2lah pengikut2 Abuya. Gus Dur dgn makhinzir@kutty tu 2X 5 aje. Malah Gus
Dur pernah jadi pegetua Yayasan Simon Peres Yahudi yg dilaknat Allah.

wslm


Asiah Abdullah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 aaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:12:30 +0300
 To: (Recipient list suppressed)
 From: aaa 
 Subject: TRUE COLOURS OF INDONESIAN RULER!
 
 Assalamu 'alaikum
 With rulers like these, who needs enemies?
 
 Wahid's links with Israel should not be a surprise
 ^^
 http://www.muslimedia.com/zion-indo.htm
 
 Indonesian president Abdur Rahman Wahid raised eyebrows on December 4 when
 he told his new economic affairs commission that Israel had agreed to
 invest $200 million in Indonesia.
 
 
 He was quoted in the Jakarta Post as saying: "I told them, and they
 themselves agreed, not to directly invest but rather do it through a third
 party. They agreed to do it through a Dutch or US company." 
 
 Wahid had previously expressed support for commercial links with the
 zionist state, although not diplomatic relations, but no-one had expected
 that an agreement would be reached so quickly. It was probably done when
 he visited Washington last month.
 
 
 However, Wahid got in trouble for telling the Far Eastern Economic Review
 that Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad had asked him to foster
 closer ties with Israel. The Malaysian government strongly denied the
 report, saying that "Malaysia's position is clear: we have no intention of
 establioshing diplomatic or commercial ties with Israel."
 
 
 However, a Malaysian commentator said that the allegation rang true.
 "Malaysia has encouraged sporting and other links with Israel. Probably
 the only difference is that Wahid is naive enough to admit his plans,
 despite the precaution of routing the funds through a US or Dutch
 company." 
 
 Abdur Rahman Wahid has long been regarded by some as a opportunist, whose
 Islamic credentials are largely sham. He failed to graduate from Al-Azhar,
 where he was known for his fondness for western films, particularly French
 ones.
 
 
 He also likes western music, dancing and night-life; he celebrated his
 election as head of Indonesia's Nahdhatul Ulama with a party at
 Casablanca, a well-known Jakarta nightclub; some of his guests were so
 shocked that they left early. Muslims should expect little from him; even
 then they might be disappointed.
 
 
 
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