Re: H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger

2001-10-25 Terurut Topik Osman


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Assalmmu alaikum.

Pada akhir September, duta Saudi ke AS, Prince
Bandar bin Sultan, ditemuramah di rangkaian TV
PBS AS. Temuramah tersebut agak panjang tetapi
menarik, dan ianya memberi gambaran siapakah
Osama Bin Laden sebenarnya dan apakah kaitan
antara Osama dengan Arab Saudi.

Bacalah di:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism/interviews/bandar.html

Sekian.

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Re: H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger

2001-10-25 Terurut Topik hadi hadad


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Prince Bandar tu jurucakap pemerintah, jadi kalau awak
nak percaya bulat2 cakap dia, samalah percaya dengan
percakapan Dollah BAdawi atau Mahathir pujangga awak
tu. point mereka - asalkan perut dan nafsu sendiri
kenyang, apa nak berlaku, lantaklah . kalau nak tau,
itulah sifat2 manusia yang engkar, tidak beriman,
memihak kekufuran, etc.


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 Assalmmu alaikum.
 
 Pada akhir September, duta Saudi ke AS, Prince
 Bandar bin Sultan, ditemuramah di rangkaian TV
 PBS AS. Temuramah tersebut agak panjang tetapi
 menarik, dan ianya memberi gambaran siapakah
 Osama Bin Laden sebenarnya dan apakah kaitan
 antara Osama dengan Arab Saudi.
 
 Bacalah di:
 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism/interviews/bandar.html
 
 Sekian.
 
 Osman Mia
 http://dimashq.hypermart.net/go.pl/osman
 
 
 
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H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger

2001-10-24 Terurut Topik Mohd Bazil Badrul Jam


Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger
CAIRO - Saudi Arabia, home to a quarter of the world's
oil reserves and
the birthplace of
Islam, faces growing popular opposition to the American
campaign in
Afghanistan - anxiety
that could force the Saudi government to temper its crucial
cooperation
in the US pursuit of
Osama bin Laden's network, analysts and diplomats say.
In the past week, the powerful Saudi interior minister
has warned his
countrymen not to
sympathize with bin Laden and his followers - an acknowledgment
of the
popularity the
Saudi exile enjoys in his homeland. The religious
affairs minister,
meanwhile, has reminded
the populace that no one other than the king could declare
holy war, a
move meant to head
off such calls from popular and more radical preachers
in the kingdom.
Across the country, home to Islam's two holiest shrines,
at Mecca and
Medina, prayer
leaders - with a rare forum for public expression in
the restrictive
kingdom - have
dismissed the minister's warning and urged a holy war
against ''the
enemies of Islam.''
Others praised bin Laden as a ''true Muslim hero.'' Both
calls were
issued amid reports in
an Arabic-language newspaper that Saudis were volunteering
to fight in
Afghanistan.
Saudi Arabia's government has weathered such opposition
before, most
notably during the
1991 Gulf War when US troops were stationed on Saudi
land. But the
anxiety on the part
of Saudi leaders over popular opposition to the US-led
campaign in
Afghanistan points to
the delicate balancing act the Saudi government has faced
for much of
its history - a deep
alliance with the United States that, in public, cannot
appear so deep.
''The more they're seen as closely associated with the
US, the more
difficult for them to
justify their own pronouncements that they have independence
of decision
making,'' said
Aziz Abu Hamad, a Saudi analyst in Riyadh. The United
States ''doesn't
realize that if the
government cooperates more they will jeopardize their
own security.''
Saudi leaders, so far noticeably reluctant to endorse
the US campaign,
began this week to
air their displeasure with the course of the attacks
on a fellow Muslim
country.
Their messages, albeit subtle, suggested that Saudi Arabia
is
increasingly uneasy with the
duration and scope of the US campaign, both in its military
attacks on
Afghanistan as well
as the less visible moves against financial sources of
Osama bin Laden's
network, many
of which traditionally sprung from Saudi Arabia's elite.
US officials have publicly said that they are satisfied
with the support
the Saudis are
providing. ''The cooperation has been much better than
the general
public perception,'' said
Robert H. Pelletreau, former assistant secretary of state
for Near
Eastern affairs.
But requests for more cooperation may be dangerous, Hamad
said.
So far, the Saudis have allowed the United States to use
a sophisticated
command and
control system at Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh
during the strikes.
More help will be
needed to crack down on funding believed headed
for bin Laden's network
- something the
Saudi government has sought to do since 1993 - and in
the investigation
into those behind
the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, analysts
say.
With Egypt and Israel, Saudi Arabia remains one of the
pillars of US
foreign policy in the
Middle East, a strategic region in a world dependent
on fossil fuels.
The US-Saudi alliance dates to 1945, when President Roosevelt
met King
Abdul Aziz
aboard the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal. It has weathered
four
Arab-Israeli wars, and it
grew far deeper and more public after Iraq's invasion
of Kuwait in 1990,
which led to the
arrival of US troops on Saudi soil.
But the relationship, bound by oil, remains sensitive.
While the Cold War united them as opponents of the Soviet
Union - the
United States
because of communism, Saudi Arabia because of atheism
- the Saudi
government has
shied away from appearing too close in public to a country
unpopular for
its support of
Israel and increasingly perceived as hostile in
foreign policy and
lifestyle to Islam.
''They have a lot of ambivalence toward us and we have
a lot of
ambivalence toward them,
but our mutual interests are so strong, they've overridden
the
ambivalence,'' said David
Long, a former US diplomat in Saudi Arabia. ''Our mutual
interests are
so close that the
policies have stayed remarkably close for the last 60
years.''
The crisis today, analysts and diplomats say, has introduced
a new and
perhaps more
dangerous element into that relationship. The test, they
say, could
prove as severe as the
1991 Gulf War, which gave rise to a dissident movement
- both militant
and peaceful -
upset about the arrival of US soldiers on land considered
by Muslims to
be sacred.
The challenge revolves around bin Laden himself, a Saudi
exile who was
long a hero in his
country for fighting Soviet troops in Afghanistan in
the 1980s.
That campaign, backed by the United States in one of its
biggest covert
operations 

H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger

2001-10-23 Terurut Topik Mohd Bazil Badrul Jam





Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger


CAIRO - Saudi Arabia, home to a quarter of the world's oil reserves and
the birthplace of
Islam, faces growing popular opposition to the American campaign in
Afghanistan - anxiety
that could force the Saudi government to temper its crucial cooperation
in the US pursuit of
Osama bin Laden's network, analysts and diplomats say.

In the past week, the powerful Saudi interior minister has warned his
countrymen not to
sympathize with bin Laden and his followers - an acknowledgment of the
popularity the
 Saudi exile enjoys in his homeland. The religious affairs minister,
meanwhile, has reminded
the populace that no one other than the king could declare holy war, a
move meant to head
off such calls from popular and more radical preachers in the kingdom.

Across the country, home to Islam's two holiest shrines, at Mecca and
Medina, prayer
leaders - with a rare forum for public expression in the restrictive
kingdom - have
dismissed the minister's warning and urged a holy war against ''the
enemies of Islam.''
Others praised bin Laden as a ''true Muslim hero.'' Both calls were
issued amid reports in
an Arabic-language newspaper that Saudis were volunteering to fight in
Afghanistan.

Saudi Arabia's government has weathered such opposition before, most
notably during the
1991 Gulf War when US troops were stationed on Saudi land. But the
anxiety on the part
of Saudi leaders over popular opposition to the US-led campaign in
Afghanistan points to
the delicate balancing act the Saudi government has faced for much of
its history - a deep
alliance with the United States that, in public, cannot appear so deep.

''The more they're seen as closely associated with the US, the more
difficult for them to
justify their own pronouncements that they have independence of decision
making,'' said
Aziz Abu Hamad, a Saudi analyst in Riyadh. The United States ''doesn't
realize that if the
government cooperates more they will jeopardize their own security.''

Saudi leaders, so far noticeably reluctant to endorse the US campaign,
began this week to
air their displeasure with the course of the attacks on a fellow Muslim
country.

Their messages, albeit subtle, suggested that Saudi Arabia is
increasingly uneasy with the
duration and scope of the US campaign, both in its military attacks on
Afghanistan as well
as the less visible moves against financial sources of Osama bin Laden's
network, many
of which traditionally sprung from Saudi Arabia's elite.

US officials have publicly said that they are satisfied with the support
the Saudis are
providing. ''The cooperation has been much better than the general
public perception,'' said
Robert H. Pelletreau, former assistant secretary of state for Near
Eastern affairs.

But requests for more cooperation may be dangerous, Hamad said.

So far, the Saudis have allowed the United States to use a sophisticated
command and
control system at Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh during the strikes.
More help will be
 needed to crack down on funding believed headed for bin Laden's network
- something the
Saudi government has sought to do since 1993 - and in the investigation
into those behind
the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, analysts say.

With Egypt and Israel, Saudi Arabia remains one of the pillars of US
foreign policy in the
Middle East, a strategic region in a world dependent on fossil fuels.

The US-Saudi alliance dates to 1945, when President Roosevelt met King
Abdul Aziz
aboard the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal. It has weathered four
Arab-Israeli wars, and it
grew far deeper and more public after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990,
which led to the
arrival of US troops on Saudi soil.

But the relationship, bound by oil, remains sensitive.

While the Cold War united them as opponents of the Soviet Union - the
United States
because of communism, Saudi Arabia because of atheism - the Saudi
government has
shied away from appearing too close in public to a country unpopular for
its support of
 Israel and increasingly perceived as hostile in foreign policy and
lifestyle to Islam.

''They have a lot of ambivalence toward us and we have a lot of
ambivalence toward them,
but our mutual interests are so strong, they've overridden the
ambivalence,'' said David
Long, a former US diplomat in Saudi Arabia. ''Our mutual interests are
so close that the
policies have stayed remarkably close for the last 60 years.''

The crisis today, analysts and diplomats say, has introduced a new and
perhaps more
dangerous element into that relationship. The test, they say, could
prove as severe as the
1991 Gulf War, which gave rise to a dissident movement - both militant
and peaceful -
upset about the arrival of US soldiers on land considered by Muslims to
be sacred.

The challenge revolves around bin Laden himself, a Saudi exile who was
long a hero in his
country for fighting Soviet troops in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

That campaign, backed by the United States in one of its 

H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger

2001-10-22 Terurut Topik Mohd Bazil Badrul Jam


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Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger


CAIRO - Saudi Arabia, home to a quarter of the world's oil reserves and
the birthplace of
Islam, faces growing popular opposition to the American campaign in
Afghanistan - anxiety
that could force the Saudi government to temper its crucial cooperation
in the US pursuit of
Osama bin Laden's network, analysts and diplomats say.

In the past week, the powerful Saudi interior minister has warned his
countrymen not to
sympathize with bin Laden and his followers - an acknowledgment of the
popularity the
 Saudi exile enjoys in his homeland. The religious affairs minister,
meanwhile, has reminded
the populace that no one other than the king could declare holy war, a
move meant to head
off such calls from popular and more radical preachers in the kingdom.

Across the country, home to Islam's two holiest shrines, at Mecca and
Medina, prayer
leaders - with a rare forum for public expression in the restrictive
kingdom - have
dismissed the minister's warning and urged a holy war against ''the
enemies of Islam.''
Others praised bin Laden as a ''true Muslim hero.'' Both calls were
issued amid reports in
an Arabic-language newspaper that Saudis were volunteering to fight in
Afghanistan.

Saudi Arabia's government has weathered such opposition before, most
notably during the
1991 Gulf War when US troops were stationed on Saudi land. But the
anxiety on the part
of Saudi leaders over popular opposition to the US-led campaign in
Afghanistan points to
the delicate balancing act the Saudi government has faced for much of
its history - a deep
alliance with the United States that, in public, cannot appear so deep.

''The more they're seen as closely associated with the US, the more
difficult for them to
justify their own pronouncements that they have independence of decision
making,'' said
Aziz Abu Hamad, a Saudi analyst in Riyadh. The United States ''doesn't
realize that if the
government cooperates more they will jeopardize their own security.''

Saudi leaders, so far noticeably reluctant to endorse the US campaign,
began this week to
air their displeasure with the course of the attacks on a fellow Muslim
country.

Their messages, albeit subtle, suggested that Saudi Arabia is
increasingly uneasy with the
duration and scope of the US campaign, both in its military attacks on
Afghanistan as well
as the less visible moves against financial sources of Osama bin Laden's
network, many
of which traditionally sprung from Saudi Arabia's elite.

US officials have publicly said that they are satisfied with the support
the Saudis are
providing. ''The cooperation has been much better than the general
public perception,'' said
Robert H. Pelletreau, former assistant secretary of state for Near
Eastern affairs.

But requests for more cooperation may be dangerous, Hamad said.

So far, the Saudis have allowed the United States to use a sophisticated
command and
control system at Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh during the strikes.
More help will be
 needed to crack down on funding believed headed for bin Laden's network
- something the
Saudi government has sought to do since 1993 - and in the investigation
into those behind
the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, analysts say.

With Egypt and Israel, Saudi Arabia remains one of the pillars of US
foreign policy in the
Middle East, a strategic region in a world dependent on fossil fuels.

The US-Saudi alliance dates to 1945, when President Roosevelt met King
Abdul Aziz
aboard the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal. It has weathered four
Arab-Israeli wars, and it
grew far deeper and more public after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990,
which led to the
arrival of US troops on Saudi soil.

But the relationship, bound by oil, remains sensitive.

While the Cold War united them as opponents of the Soviet Union - the
United States
because of communism, Saudi Arabia because of atheism - the Saudi
government has
shied away from appearing too close in public to a country unpopular for
its support of
 Israel and increasingly perceived as hostile in foreign policy and
lifestyle to Islam.

''They have a lot of ambivalence toward us and we have a lot of
ambivalence toward them,
but our mutual interests are so strong, they've overridden the
ambivalence,'' said David
Long, a former US diplomat in Saudi Arabia. ''Our mutual interests are
so close that the
policies have stayed remarkably close for the last 60 years.''

The crisis today, analysts and diplomats say, has introduced a new and
perhaps more
dangerous element into that relationship. The test,