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H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger
Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger CAIRO - Saudi Arabia, home to a quarter of the world's oil reserves and the birthplace of Islam, faces growing popular opposition to the American campaign in Afghanistan - anxiety that could force the Saudi government to temper its crucial cooperation in the US pursuit of Osama bin Laden's network, analysts and diplomats say. In the past week, the powerful Saudi interior minister has warned his countrymen not to sympathize with bin Laden and his followers - an acknowledgment of the popularity the Saudi exile enjoys in his homeland. The religious affairs minister, meanwhile, has reminded the populace that no one other than the king could declare holy war, a move meant to head off such calls from popular and more radical preachers in the kingdom. Across the country, home to Islam's two holiest shrines, at Mecca and Medina, prayer leaders - with a rare forum for public expression in the restrictive kingdom - have dismissed the minister's warning and urged a holy war against ''the enemies of Islam.'' Others praised bin Laden as a ''true Muslim hero.'' Both calls were issued amid reports in an Arabic-language newspaper that Saudis were volunteering to fight in Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia's government has weathered such opposition before, most notably during the 1991 Gulf War when US troops were stationed on Saudi land. But the anxiety on the part of Saudi leaders over popular opposition to the US-led campaign in Afghanistan points to the delicate balancing act the Saudi government has faced for much of its history - a deep alliance with the United States that, in public, cannot appear so deep. ''The more they're seen as closely associated with the US, the more difficult for them to justify their own pronouncements that they have independence of decision making,'' said Aziz Abu Hamad, a Saudi analyst in Riyadh. The United States ''doesn't realize that if the government cooperates more they will jeopardize their own security.'' Saudi leaders, so far noticeably reluctant to endorse the US campaign, began this week to air their displeasure with the course of the attacks on a fellow Muslim country. Their messages, albeit subtle, suggested that Saudi Arabia is increasingly uneasy with the duration and scope of the US campaign, both in its military attacks on Afghanistan as well as the less visible moves against financial sources of Osama bin Laden's network, many of which traditionally sprung from Saudi Arabia's elite. US officials have publicly said that they are satisfied with the support the Saudis are providing. ''The cooperation has been much better than the general public perception,'' said Robert H. Pelletreau, former assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs. But requests for more cooperation may be dangerous, Hamad said. So far, the Saudis have allowed the United States to use a sophisticated command and control system at Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh during the strikes. More help will be needed to crack down on funding believed headed for bin Laden's network - something the Saudi government has sought to do since 1993 - and in the investigation into those behind the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, analysts say. With Egypt and Israel, Saudi Arabia remains one of the pillars of US foreign policy in the Middle East, a strategic region in a world dependent on fossil fuels. The US-Saudi alliance dates to 1945, when President Roosevelt met King Abdul Aziz aboard the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal. It has weathered four Arab-Israeli wars, and it grew far deeper and more public after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, which led to the arrival of US troops on Saudi soil. But the relationship, bound by oil, remains sensitive. While the Cold War united them as opponents of the Soviet Union - the United States because of communism, Saudi Arabia because of atheism - the Saudi government has shied away from appearing too close in public to a country unpopular for its support of Israel and increasingly perceived as hostile in foreign policy and lifestyle to Islam. ''They have a lot of ambivalence toward us and we have a lot of ambivalence toward them, but our mutual interests are so strong, they've overridden the ambivalence,'' said David Long, a former US diplomat in Saudi Arabia. ''Our mutual interests are so close that the policies have stayed remarkably close for the last 60 years.'' The crisis today, analysts and diplomats say, has introduced a new and perhaps more dangerous element into that relationship. The test, they say, could prove as severe as the 1991 Gulf War, which gave rise to a dissident movement - both militant and peaceful - upset about the arrival of US soldiers on land considered by Muslims to be sacred. The challenge revolves around bin Laden himself, a Saudi exile who was long a hero in his country for fighting Soviet troops in Afghanistan in the 1980s. That campaign, backed by the United States in one of its biggest covert operations
H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger
Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger CAIRO - Saudi Arabia, home to a quarter of the world's oil reserves and the birthplace of Islam, faces growing popular opposition to the American campaign in Afghanistan - anxiety that could force the Saudi government to temper its crucial cooperation in the US pursuit of Osama bin Laden's network, analysts and diplomats say. In the past week, the powerful Saudi interior minister has warned his countrymen not to sympathize with bin Laden and his followers - an acknowledgment of the popularity the Saudi exile enjoys in his homeland. The religious affairs minister, meanwhile, has reminded the populace that no one other than the king could declare holy war, a move meant to head off such calls from popular and more radical preachers in the kingdom. Across the country, home to Islam's two holiest shrines, at Mecca and Medina, prayer leaders - with a rare forum for public expression in the restrictive kingdom - have dismissed the minister's warning and urged a holy war against ''the enemies of Islam.'' Others praised bin Laden as a ''true Muslim hero.'' Both calls were issued amid reports in an Arabic-language newspaper that Saudis were volunteering to fight in Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia's government has weathered such opposition before, most notably during the 1991 Gulf War when US troops were stationed on Saudi land. But the anxiety on the part of Saudi leaders over popular opposition to the US-led campaign in Afghanistan points to the delicate balancing act the Saudi government has faced for much of its history - a deep alliance with the United States that, in public, cannot appear so deep. ''The more they're seen as closely associated with the US, the more difficult for them to justify their own pronouncements that they have independence of decision making,'' said Aziz Abu Hamad, a Saudi analyst in Riyadh. The United States ''doesn't realize that if the government cooperates more they will jeopardize their own security.'' Saudi leaders, so far noticeably reluctant to endorse the US campaign, began this week to air their displeasure with the course of the attacks on a fellow Muslim country. Their messages, albeit subtle, suggested that Saudi Arabia is increasingly uneasy with the duration and scope of the US campaign, both in its military attacks on Afghanistan as well as the less visible moves against financial sources of Osama bin Laden's network, many of which traditionally sprung from Saudi Arabia's elite. US officials have publicly said that they are satisfied with the support the Saudis are providing. ''The cooperation has been much better than the general public perception,'' said Robert H. Pelletreau, former assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs. But requests for more cooperation may be dangerous, Hamad said. So far, the Saudis have allowed the United States to use a sophisticated command and control system at Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh during the strikes. More help will be needed to crack down on funding believed headed for bin Laden's network - something the Saudi government has sought to do since 1993 - and in the investigation into those behind the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, analysts say. With Egypt and Israel, Saudi Arabia remains one of the pillars of US foreign policy in the Middle East, a strategic region in a world dependent on fossil fuels. The US-Saudi alliance dates to 1945, when President Roosevelt met King Abdul Aziz aboard the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal. It has weathered four Arab-Israeli wars, and it grew far deeper and more public after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, which led to the arrival of US troops on Saudi soil. But the relationship, bound by oil, remains sensitive. While the Cold War united them as opponents of the Soviet Union - the United States because of communism, Saudi Arabia because of atheism - the Saudi government has shied away from appearing too close in public to a country unpopular for its support of Israel and increasingly perceived as hostile in foreign policy and lifestyle to Islam. ''They have a lot of ambivalence toward us and we have a lot of ambivalence toward them, but our mutual interests are so strong, they've overridden the ambivalence,'' said David Long, a former US diplomat in Saudi Arabia. ''Our mutual interests are so close that the policies have stayed remarkably close for the last 60 years.'' The crisis today, analysts and diplomats say, has introduced a new and perhaps more dangerous element into that relationship. The test, they say, could prove as severe as the 1991 Gulf War, which gave rise to a dissident movement - both militant and peaceful - upset about the arrival of US soldiers on land considered by Muslims to be sacred. The challenge revolves around bin Laden himself, a Saudi exile who was long a hero in his country for fighting Soviet troops in Afghanistan in the 1980s. That campaign, backed by the United States in one of its
H-Net* Saudi Kingdom fights growing anger
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