Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
I'm sure Valve have learned to ignore 95% of the criticism they receive and treat the other 5% with mild indifference as they have been successful thus far. The SDK is still far more than enough to make mods, a few bugs here and there won't hold every single mod back. Hell the fact that people can access the OB SDK at all without having to purchase the Orange Box itself is a testimant to the fact Valve does care. How many people had to completely upgrade from UT2k3 to UT2k4 just to play mods that had moved over to the 2k4 engine? This entire topic devolved from a fix put out to aid in Linux builds, but all the files there, as best as I can tell, were already available so it's not like you couldn't have fixed it yourself. How many companies let you do that without being a "client" ? On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Daniel Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not the only one who did a double take upon seeing the word "Nigger" in > a HLCoders post summary, am I? > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I've kept quiet on this, but now the line has been crossed. > > You are acting like 4-year-old children, and should, quite frankly, feel > > ashamed of yourselves. > > > > When a product or update is released, not everyone is going to be > pleased. > > If you are one of those that are not pleased, sometimes you've got to > live > > with it. > > > > This mailing list is not the place for you to flame, nor a place to use > > such > > offensive language, Tobias. It is a discussion about the sdk, and a place > > to > > help each other. > > > > This behaviour needs to stop. Right now. > > > > 2008/6/22 Cory de La Torre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Geezus guys, come on. > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Mulchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Great language; I'm glad you're allowed to post to hlcoders - not. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias > > > > Kammersgaard > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:11 > > > > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > > > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box > > > > > > > > Whatever those niggers say! I probably going to be hungover tomorrow. > I > > > > demand satisfaction :-(! > > > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > > > > > > > > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are > not > > > > > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > > > > > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > > > > > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, > and > > > > > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > > > > > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > > > > > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > > > > > January is pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is > some > > > > > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. > > > > > >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs > > you > > > > > >> get paid to leave behind... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > &g
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
I'm not the only one who did a double take upon seeing the word "Nigger" in a HLCoders post summary, am I? On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've kept quiet on this, but now the line has been crossed. > You are acting like 4-year-old children, and should, quite frankly, feel > ashamed of yourselves. > > When a product or update is released, not everyone is going to be pleased. > If you are one of those that are not pleased, sometimes you've got to live > with it. > > This mailing list is not the place for you to flame, nor a place to use > such > offensive language, Tobias. It is a discussion about the sdk, and a place > to > help each other. > > This behaviour needs to stop. Right now. > > 2008/6/22 Cory de La Torre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Geezus guys, come on. > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Mulchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Great language; I'm glad you're allowed to post to hlcoders - not. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias > > > Kammersgaard > > > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:11 > > > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box > > > > > > Whatever those niggers say! I probably going to be hungover tomorrow. I > > > demand satisfaction :-(! > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > > > > > > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not > > > > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > > > > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > > > > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and > > > > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > > > > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > > > > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > > > > January is pathetic. > > > > > > > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some > > > > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. > > > > >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs > you > > > > >> get paid to leave behind... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw > > > linus > > > > >> over a > > > > >> > cliff paid off ;) > > > > >> > -Tony > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands > > > (ie: > > > > >> say, > > > > >> >> > kill > > > > >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > > > > >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths > from > > > src) > > > > or > > > > >> >
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
I've kept quiet on this, but now the line has been crossed. You are acting like 4-year-old children, and should, quite frankly, feel ashamed of yourselves. When a product or update is released, not everyone is going to be pleased. If you are one of those that are not pleased, sometimes you've got to live with it. This mailing list is not the place for you to flame, nor a place to use such offensive language, Tobias. It is a discussion about the sdk, and a place to help each other. This behaviour needs to stop. Right now. 2008/6/22 Cory de La Torre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Geezus guys, come on. > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Mulchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Great language; I'm glad you're allowed to post to hlcoders - not. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias > > Kammersgaard > > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:11 > > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box > > > > Whatever those niggers say! I probably going to be hungover tomorrow. I > > demand satisfaction :-(! > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > > > > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not > > > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > > > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > > > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and > > > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > > > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > > > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > > > January is pathetic. > > > > > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some > > > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > > > now. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. > > > >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you > > > >> get paid to leave behind... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw > > linus > > > >> over a > > > >> > cliff paid off ;) > > > >> > -Tony > > > >> > > > > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands > > (ie: > > > >> say, > > > >> >> > kill > > > >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > > > >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from > > src) > > > or > > > >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in > > there > > > ;) > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you > now. > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > link: > > > >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > -- > &
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Geezus guys, come on. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Mulchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great language; I'm glad you're allowed to post to hlcoders - not. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias > Kammersgaard > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:11 > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box > > Whatever those niggers say! I probably going to be hungover tomorrow. I > demand satisfaction :-(! > > /ScarT > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not > > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and > > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > > January is pathetic. > > > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some > > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > > now. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. > > >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you > > >> get paid to leave behind... > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw > linus > > >> over a > > >> > cliff paid off ;) > > >> > -Tony > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > > >> >> > > >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands > (ie: > > >> say, > > >> >> > kill > > >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > > >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from > src) > > or > > >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in > there > > ;) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > link: > > >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > -Tony > > >> >> > ___ > > >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > >> >> > please visit: > > >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> ___ > > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > >> >> please visit: > > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > -Tony > > >> > ___ > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > arc
[hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Great language; I'm glad you're allowed to post to hlcoders - not. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias Kammersgaard Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:11 To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box Whatever those niggers say! I probably going to be hungover tomorrow. I demand satisfaction :-(! /ScarT On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > January is pathetic. > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > now. > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. > >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you > >> get paid to leave behind... > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> wrote: > >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus > >> over a > >> > cliff paid off ;) > >> > -Tony > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > >> >> > >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: > >> say, > >> >> > kill > >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > >> >> > > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) > or > >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > >> >> > > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there > ;) > >> >> > > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. > >> >> > > >> >> > link: > >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > -Tony > >> >> > ___ > >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> >> > please visit: > >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ___ > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> >> please visit: > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > -Tony > >> > ___ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Whatever those niggers say! I probably going to be hungover tomorrow. I demand satisfaction :-(! /ScarT On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > January is pathetic. > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > now. > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. > >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you > >> get paid to leave behind... > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> wrote: > >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus > >> over a > >> > cliff paid off ;) > >> > -Tony > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > >> >> > >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: > >> say, > >> >> > kill > >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > >> >> > > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) > or > >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > >> >> > > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there > ;) > >> >> > > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. > >> >> > > >> >> > link: > >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > -Tony > >> >> > ___ > >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> >> > please visit: > >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ___ > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> >> please visit: > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > -Tony > >> > ___ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Tom Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Though with all that said, do Valve's licensees have the same issues as > us?) Hard to say, given the relative dearth of them. There's only been, what, four released games plus Garry's Mod? Haven't played _The Ship_, but if the bugginess of _Dark Messiah_ and _Bloodlines_ are any indication, they probably *do* have similar issues. At the same time, they also have access to the entire code base, and thus can probably debug/fix stuff themselves (at the expense of added difficulty merging in Valve's updates). -- Andrew Timson == "Niceness is the greatest human flaw, except for all the others." --Brendan Moody ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
If valve doesn't want new mods to come out, that's perfectly fine. =D On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Garry Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, THEY haven't cleaned my bathroom since 2001! I don't see why I > should have to do it when I bought their game! > > garry > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Jeffrey botman Broome > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Garry Newman wrote: > >> Valve need to come and clean my bathroom. I bought Half-Life 1 in > >> 2001, I pay their wages, they owe me this. > > > > You haven't cleaned your bathroom since 2001? > > > > Ew, you're disgusting! > > > > -- > > Jeffrey "botman" Broome > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
No, THEY haven't cleaned my bathroom since 2001! I don't see why I should have to do it when I bought their game! garry On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Jeffrey botman Broome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Garry Newman wrote: >> Valve need to come and clean my bathroom. I bought Half-Life 1 in >> 2001, I pay their wages, they owe me this. > > You haven't cleaned your bathroom since 2001? > > Ew, you're disgusting! > > -- > Jeffrey "botman" Broome > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Garry Newman wrote: > Valve need to come and clean my bathroom. I bought Half-Life 1 in > 2001, I pay their wages, they owe me this. You haven't cleaned your bathroom since 2001? Ew, you're disgusting! -- Jeffrey "botman" Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Valve need to come and clean my bathroom. I bought Half-Life 1 in 2001, I pay their wages, they owe me this. garry On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look! another one, like roaches they come out at night. I have no idea > who you stole your steam account from, but I like everyone else I know > bought and paid for my steam account with actual money. Valve is a > good company, it runs of the money from me, and from you. > > I know Valve cares about customers, and anyone modding or playing mods > is a good and loyal customer. For a rat like you to come here and say > Valve owes paying customers nothing is unbelievable! I refuse to > listen to people like you who say Valve owes us nothing, and doesn't > care about us. > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Calm down there. Valve doesn't owe us anything! We didn't exactly pay grand >> sums of money for the sdk and we are lucky to get as much support as we do. >> >> Mark >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick >> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box >> >> Tobias Kammersgaard, >> >> I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not >> on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding >> community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent >> way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and >> totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really >> needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have >> modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in >> January is pathetic. >> >> Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some >> reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave >> now. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. >>> >>> >>> /ScarT >>> >>> >>> On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >>>> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >>>> get paid to leave behind... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >>>> over a >>>> > cliff paid off ;) >>>> > -Tony >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >>>> >> >>>> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >>>> say, >>>> >> > kill >>>> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >>>> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) >> or >>>> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there >> ;) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > link: >>>> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > -Tony >>>> >> > ___ >>>> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >>>> >> > please visit: >>>> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> __
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Repeat after me: it's only money. It's only money. It's only money. You're privileged that a bunch of talented people decided to give you access to their privately-owned work of many, many years in the first place. I really dislike the whole "consumers as demigods" philosophy. I blame America! ;-D (Though with all that said, do Valve's licensees have the same issues as us?) Nick wrote: > Look! another one, like roaches they come out at night. I have no idea > who you stole your steam account from, but I like everyone else I know > bought and paid for my steam account with actual money. Valve is a > good company, it runs of the money from me, and from you. > > I know Valve cares about customers, and anyone modding or playing mods > is a good and loyal customer. For a rat like you to come here and say > Valve owes paying customers nothing is unbelievable! I refuse to > listen to people like you who say Valve owes us nothing, and doesn't > care about us. > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Calm down there. Valve doesn't owe us anything! We didn't exactly pay grand >> sums of money for the sdk and we are lucky to get as much support as we do. >> >> Mark >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick >> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box >> >> Tobias Kammersgaard, >> >> I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not >> on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding >> community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent >> way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and >> totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really >> needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have >> modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in >> January is pathetic. >> >> Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some >> reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave >> now. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. >>> >>> >>> /ScarT >>> >>> >>> On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >>>> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >>>> get paid to leave behind... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >>>>> >>>> over a >>>> >>>>> cliff paid off ;) >>>>> -Tony >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >>>>>>> >>>> say, >>>> >>>>>>> kill >>>>>>> etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >>>>>>> you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) >>>>>>> >> or >> >>>>>>> somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there >>>>>>> >> ;) >> >>>>>>> Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> link: >>>>>>> http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Look at it this way. None NONE of the other developers of my games have released source code. And only 25% of those have either an sdk or are moddable (But very difficult to do so, involves editing encrypted files and what not) We're very lucky for what we have. Nick wrote: > Look! another one, like roaches they come out at night. I have no idea > who you stole your steam account from, but I like everyone else I know > bought and paid for my steam account with actual money. Valve is a > good company, it runs of the money from me, and from you. > > I know Valve cares about customers, and anyone modding or playing mods > is a good and loyal customer. For a rat like you to come here and say > Valve owes paying customers nothing is unbelievable! I refuse to > listen to people like you who say Valve owes us nothing, and doesn't > care about us. > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Calm down there. Valve doesn't owe us anything! We didn't exactly pay grand >> sums of money for the sdk and we are lucky to get as much support as we do. >> >> Mark >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick >> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:24 PM >> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box >> >> Tobias Kammersgaard, >> >> I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not >> on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding >> community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent >> way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and >> totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really >> needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have >> modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in >> January is pathetic. >> >> Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some >> reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave >> now. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. >>> >>> >>> /ScarT >>> >>> >>> On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >>>> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >>>> get paid to leave behind... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >>>>> >>>> over a >>>> >>>>> cliff paid off ;) >>>>> -Tony >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >>>>>>> >>>> say, >>>> >>>>>>> kill >>>>>>> etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >>>>>>> you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) >>>>>>> >> or >> >>>>>>> somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there >>>>>>> >> ;) >> >>>>>>> Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> link: >>>>>>> http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -Tony >>>>>>> _
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
So what you paid for a game and the sdk happened to be included. You didnt buy css/tf2/hl2 just for the sdk now did you? Demanding stuff like this is only going to be bad for modders. If you want your stuff "NOW" go buy a license then you have a right to bitch or go work on another free sdk for any other engine and see how much better off hl2 modders are. Valve hasn't done everything perfectly but at least they try when they can. They now have a full time staff member working on the sdk to help fix problems like this. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:11 PM To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box Look! another one, like roaches they come out at night. I have no idea who you stole your steam account from, but I like everyone else I know bought and paid for my steam account with actual money. Valve is a good company, it runs of the money from me, and from you. I know Valve cares about customers, and anyone modding or playing mods is a good and loyal customer. For a rat like you to come here and say Valve owes paying customers nothing is unbelievable! I refuse to listen to people like you who say Valve owes us nothing, and doesn't care about us. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calm down there. Valve doesn't owe us anything! We didn't exactly pay grand > sums of money for the sdk and we are lucky to get as much support as we do. > > Mark > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:24 PM > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > January is pathetic. > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > now. > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. >> >> >> /ScarT >> >> >> On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >>> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >>> get paid to leave behind... >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >>> over a >>> > cliff paid off ;) >>> > -Tony >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >>> >> >>> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >>> say, >>> >> > kill >>> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >>> >> > >>> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >>> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) > or >>> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >>> >> > >>> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there > ;) >>> >> > >>> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >>> >> > >>> >> > link: >>> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > -Tony >>> >> > ___ >>> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, >>> >> > please visit: >>> >>
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Look! another one, like roaches they come out at night. I have no idea who you stole your steam account from, but I like everyone else I know bought and paid for my steam account with actual money. Valve is a good company, it runs of the money from me, and from you. I know Valve cares about customers, and anyone modding or playing mods is a good and loyal customer. For a rat like you to come here and say Valve owes paying customers nothing is unbelievable! I refuse to listen to people like you who say Valve owes us nothing, and doesn't care about us. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calm down there. Valve doesn't owe us anything! We didn't exactly pay grand > sums of money for the sdk and we are lucky to get as much support as we do. > > Mark > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:24 PM > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > January is pathetic. > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > now. > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. >> >> >> /ScarT >> >> >> On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >>> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >>> get paid to leave behind... >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >>> over a >>> > cliff paid off ;) >>> > -Tony >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >>> >> >>> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >>> say, >>> >> > kill >>> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >>> >> > >>> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >>> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) > or >>> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >>> >> > >>> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there > ;) >>> >> > >>> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >>> >> > >>> >> > link: >>> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > -Tony >>> >> > ___ >>> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, >>> >> > please visit: >>> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> ___ >>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> >> please visit: >>> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > -Tony >>> > ___ >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>> >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Calm down there. Valve doesn't owe us anything! We didn't exactly pay grand sums of money for the sdk and we are lucky to get as much support as we do. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:24 PM To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box Tobias Kammersgaard, I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in January is pathetic. Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave now. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > /ScarT > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >> get paid to leave behind... >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >> over a >> > cliff paid off ;) >> > -Tony >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >> >> >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >> say, >> >> > kill >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >> >> > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >> >> > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) >> >> > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >> >> > >> >> > link: >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > -Tony >> >> > ___ >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> > please visit: >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -Tony >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Tobias Kammersgaard, I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are not on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, and totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in January is pathetic. Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is some reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave now. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > /ScarT > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >> get paid to leave behind... >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >> over a >> > cliff paid off ;) >> > -Tony >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >> >> >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >> say, >> >> > kill >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >> >> > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >> >> > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) >> >> > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >> >> > >> >> > link: >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > -Tony >> >> > ___ >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> > please visit: >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -Tony >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Agreed. In my opinion, Valve doesn't HAVE to support the modding community as much as they do. And I appreciate everything they have done (I could be wrong, but how many other companies actually have a wiki dedicated to the developers?) for the community. It's nice to be able to directly communicate, in a timely manner, to the people who are responsible for the SDK. -- Matthew Dryden http://www.matthewdryden.ca/ http://www.modularcombatwiki.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > /ScarT > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you >> get paid to leave behind... >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus >> over a >> > cliff paid off ;) >> > -Tony >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >> >> >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: >> say, >> >> > kill >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >> >> > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) >> or >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >> >> > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there >> ;) >> >> > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >> >> > >> >> > link: >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > -Tony >> >> > ___ >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> >> > please visit: >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -Tony >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. /ScarT On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At least you get paid to fix bugs. > Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you > get paid to leave behind... > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus > over a > > cliff paid off ;) > > -Tony > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > >> > >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: > say, > >> > kill > >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > >> > > >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or > >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > >> > > >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) > >> > > >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. > >> > > >> > link: > >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > -Tony > >> > ___ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > -Tony > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
At least you get paid to fix bugs. Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs you get paid to leave behind... On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus over a > cliff paid off ;) > -Tony > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: say, >> > kill >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. >> > >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. >> > >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) >> > >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. >> > >> > link: >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -Tony >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > > > -- > -Tony > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
No, we call that life. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus over > a > cliff paid off ;) > -Tony > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > > > > On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: say, > > > kill > > > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > > > > > > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > > > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or > > > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > > > > > > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) > > > > > > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. > > > > > > link: > > > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -Tony > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > -- > -Tony > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to throw linus over a cliff paid off ;) -Tony On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > > On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: say, > > kill > > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > > > > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or > > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > > > > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) > > > > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. > > > > link: > > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > > > > > > -- > > -Tony > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- -Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: say, > kill > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. > > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) > > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. > > link: > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > > > -- > -Tony > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box
Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with ConCommands (ie: say, kill etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths from src) or somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate location. Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments in there ;) Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you now. link: http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz -- -Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
