[OT] Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Paolo \"Nusco\" Perrotta]

> However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the scheme
of
> development ;)

Just use Python and feel the pleasure. :)



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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[DaiTengu]

On Saturday 16 August 2003 08:01 am, Florian Zschocke wrote:
> Shane wrote:
> > On Linux, you have to use Sybase or Oracle (I
> > believe?)  or DB2.  All of these options cost money (in the case of
> > Oracle, quite an exorbitant amount).
>
> I don't want to add to the PHP vs. ASP.NET discussion, but as for the
> databases didn't you forget about PostgreSQL? I'd like to hear what's
> wrong with PostgreSQL? (Which doesn't cost money to buy it.)
>
> Florian.
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PostgreSQL does tend to be faster with very large databases.  however it does
lack some of the features that mySQL and some of the 'big boys' have.


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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Tei]

El Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:46:01 -0700
"Michael A. Hobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo:

> ASP only runs on Micro$haft IIS -- the most remotely hacked web server
> on earth.
>

maybe not:

apache-asp run  ASP perlscript apps in any apache compatible system (wide range 
support..)

Now... return to HLCODERS. (this is not PHP vs ASP vs PERL list )


> Flexible in terms of the number of ways you can be "0wn3ed", maybe.
>
> At 09:18 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >You are obviously biased.  ;)
> >
> >With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands
> >down I find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the
> >PHP any day. However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their
> >place in the scheme of development ;)
> >
>
> Michael A. Hobson
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (310) 649-0792
>
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RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Tony \"omega\" Sergi]

I was going to post a reply earlier to see if people would stop posting
"sure I'd like to work for you" replies.
Its beginning to look like a public classified add.


-omega
Blackened Interactive - http://www.blackened-interactive.com
Omega Wing - http://owing.blackened-interactive.com

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Sent: August 16, 2003 3:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hm, I'm thinking somehow I got signed up on the PHP vs. ASP discussion
group instead of HLCODERS.  How do I get back to HLCODERS?  :)

Jeffrey "botman" Broome

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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[botman]

Hm, I'm thinking somehow I got signed up on the PHP vs. ASP discussion
group instead of HLCODERS.  How do I get back to HLCODERS?  :)

Jeffrey "botman" Broome

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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Pat Magnan]

At 08:34 AM 8/16/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Regarding functionality of ASP versus PHP. Yes, if you know C++ you can
construct or use other libraries for functionality.  C# ships with most
common libraries standardized and integrated into the platform and includes
tools made to allow a small to a large development shop reuse the code and
(again) work as a standardized platform.  PHP standardization is
non-existant (except in the case of Zend which has a cost, yes?) .
PHP has a long way to go to be mature enough to be 'the only solution for
everything', and then I feel anyone who believes that to be foolish, every
language has a cost associated with using it.. I think PHP is more where
ASP used to be before .NET. I think with ASP.NET it's insane what you can
do (and probably the security holes you open up running it... )
It's also got a lot of weird problems... globals are unsafe, so there's no
longer such a thing if you set the options so that tainted data isn't just
allowed in?
Global variables should not require redeclaration inside the function
scope, that goes against the very concept of globals.
I think they need to rethink their solution to shoddy PHP programmers a bit
there. (the real problem was people with no programming expertise unsafely
using globals).
My last complaint is database support.  MYSql isn't truly an option for a
large development platform as, while it does improve, it lacks much of the
needed functionality that more robust and developed platforms provide
(dynamic stored procedures, row level locking, foreign key constraint and
trickle, object clustering).  On Linux, you have to use Sybase or Oracle (I
believe?)  or DB2.  All of these options cost money (in the case of Oracle,
quite an exorbitant amount). I consider Sybase a very good database, but MS
Sql Server is comparable (seeing as how it's roots exist in Sybase10x).
Actually, it depends on how many connections to Oracle you need, you can
get Oracle (fully functional legal versions, etc) for about 30 dollars a
month -- that's for like 5 connections or something.. so that's obviously
too few for web stuff, but it's nowhere near as expensive as one may think,
and it's pretty comparable with SQL Server for similar sized operations.
Coupled with better speed and stability, I can't see a reason to use SQL
server unless you want the database on the application server, but that's
just wrong to me.
Sybase and SQL server have forked pretty widely.. not sure they're all that
related any longer, at least talking to someone who worked with both, he
preferred sybase.
MySQL is perfect for dynamic unimportant data, like news pages, blogs and
such drivel. Without transactions (sure coming, but how buggy will the new
feature be) and the like, it's not a real database, they're working on all
this, but I suspect they'll just screw up what was a great option for small
scale data (i.e non-financial stuff that isn't being updated nearly as much
as retreived).
Actually, PHP works with any databases you want it to nearly, I use it with
an access database (ugh don't ask crappy web host).
I'd say use PostGresSQL if MySQL doesn't meet your needs, it's free, and
has most of the features of the big boys (transactions, locking, yadda
yadda), minus the cost.
I'd just not want to put an IIS server on the net myself. ASP on Apache
maybe then... ;).
Just my thoughts! I'm a die-hard ./ fan and *nix geek as well.

Shane
PHXX.net
p.s. ASP can be run off chilsoft! platform on Apache as well.

- Original Message -
From: "jc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder
> The point is you have the *choice*. With mircro$haft you have freedoms
> taken away. oh how much does it cost to set up a legal ASP box? And how
> much for a legal PHP/Apache box :o?? I personally dont trust anything
> from a company that large. Having read about how ms manipulated and held
> back netscape i am convinced they should be kicked squarely in the nuts.
>
> Of course if you like expensive software from the bloat king who am I to
> try an change your mind. Myself, well I will be returning to my Linux
> box to play with my backend PHP library code. Which was so easy to write
> its untrue. If you can figure out C++ then I challenge you not to find
> PHP the most easy language on the planet.
>
> jc
>
>
> Daniel Koppes wrote:
>
> > True... but PHP can run on IIS too :)
> >
> > At 17:46 16/08/03, you wrote:
> >
> >> ASP only runs on Micro$haft IIS -- the most remotely hacked web
> >> server on
> >> earth.
> >>
> >> Flexible in terms of the number of ways you can be "0wn3ed", maybe.
> >>
> >> 

RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Jeff Katz]

When I said that php was better than asp, I didn't mean on the
'functionality' level, I mean heck asp is pretty much visual basic and
you can't go wrong with that. I meant it on an overall implementation
level - you need to be running IIS, which has more holes than swiss
cheese. I don't have any experience with ASP.NET, because I quickly
moved to php when I found it to be the far superior and more stable
architecture at the time (about three years ago). Since then both
languages have grown and both have their place, but for something like
server scripting and interfacing with half-life, I would have to say
that php is inherently better (just as hlds_l is better than hlds ;])

_

  Jeff 'Kuja' Katz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Florian
Zschocke
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder


Shane wrote:
>
> I'll be honest - I have no experience using it. Most PHP programmers I

> know talk of MYsql and most corporate ones speak of Sybase.

Well, I'm no database expert but if MySQL doesn't need you meets and you
don't want to go spend lots of money for a commercial DBS on Linux, you
should make sure to check out PostgreSQL the next time you need to set
one up under Unix. It is more advanced than MySQL, e.g. providing stored
procedures and row-level locking. I haven't used it myself but I do know
that it is often used when a full-fledged DBS is needed instead of the
rather low-end MySQL solution.  Just a tip. :)

Florian.
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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Florian Zschocke]

Shane wrote:
>
> I'll be honest - I have no experience using it. Most PHP programmers I know
> talk of MYsql and most corporate ones speak of Sybase.

Well, I'm no database expert but if MySQL doesn't need you meets and you
don't want to go spend lots of money for a commercial DBS on Linux, you
should make sure to check out PostgreSQL the next time you need to set
one up under Unix. It is more advanced than MySQL, e.g. providing stored
procedures and row-level locking. I haven't used it myself but I do know
that it is often used when a full-fledged DBS is needed instead of the
rather low-end MySQL solution.  Just a tip. :)

Florian.
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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Shane]

I'll be honest - I have no experience using it. Most PHP programmers I know
talk of MYsql and most corporate ones speak of Sybase.

Shane

- Original Message -
From: "Florian Zschocke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder


> Shane wrote:
> >
> > On Linux, you have to use Sybase or Oracle (I
> > believe?)  or DB2.  All of these options cost money (in the case of
Oracle,
> > quite an exorbitant amount).
>
> I don't want to add to the PHP vs. ASP.NET discussion, but as for the
> databases didn't you forget about PostgreSQL? I'd like to hear what's
> wrong with PostgreSQL? (Which doesn't cost money to buy it.)
>
> Florian.
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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Florian Zschocke]

Shane wrote:
>
> On Linux, you have to use Sybase or Oracle (I
> believe?)  or DB2.  All of these options cost money (in the case of Oracle,
> quite an exorbitant amount).

I don't want to add to the PHP vs. ASP.NET discussion, but as for the
databases didn't you forget about PostgreSQL? I'd like to hear what's
wrong with PostgreSQL? (Which doesn't cost money to buy it.)

Florian.
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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Shane]

Yikes! It's like blood in the water around sharks, but instead of sharks we
have *nix freaks!

As a corporation and working for other corporations, I (and my various
employers) never have had a problem paying a fee that, compared to the
salary they pay me and the total revenue they bring it and the marketing
value of the website, is miniscule and as a percentage less then .01% of
their total yearly income! $1700 for a licensed Win2000 server + SQL Server
is a drop in the bucket.

So instead of focusing on a cost that you would likely never pay anyway,  I
don't mind arguing the +- of any one platform.  I mean, how many companies
have shelled out the cost of a Coldfusion server (at a MUCH higher price)
just so they can hire less expensive programmers (since the platform is
/real/ easy to manage and manipulate (albeit at the expense of some
functionality and speed).

Regarding functionality of ASP versus PHP. Yes, if you know C++ you can
construct or use other libraries for functionality.  C# ships with most
common libraries standardized and integrated into the platform and includes
tools made to allow a small to a large development shop reuse the code and
(again) work as a standardized platform.  PHP standardization is
non-existant (except in the case of Zend which has a cost, yes?) .

My last complaint is database support.  MYSql isn't truly an option for a
large development platform as, while it does improve, it lacks much of the
needed functionality that more robust and developed platforms provide
(dynamic stored procedures, row level locking, foreign key constraint and
trickle, object clustering).  On Linux, you have to use Sybase or Oracle (I
believe?)  or DB2.  All of these options cost money (in the case of Oracle,
quite an exorbitant amount). I consider Sybase a very good database, but MS
Sql Server is comparable (seeing as how it's roots exist in Sybase10x).

Just my thoughts! I'm a die-hard ./ fan and *nix geek as well.

Shane
PHXX.net

p.s. ASP can be run off chilsoft! platform on Apache as well.


- Original Message -
From: "jc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder


> The point is you have the *choice*. With mircro$haft you have freedoms
> taken away. oh how much does it cost to set up a legal ASP box? And how
> much for a legal PHP/Apache box :o?? I personally dont trust anything
> from a company that large. Having read about how ms manipulated and held
> back netscape i am convinced they should be kicked squarely in the nuts.
>
> Of course if you like expensive software from the bloat king who am I to
> try an change your mind. Myself, well I will be returning to my Linux
> box to play with my backend PHP library code. Which was so easy to write
> its untrue. If you can figure out C++ then I challenge you not to find
> PHP the most easy language on the planet.
>
> jc
>
>
> Daniel Koppes wrote:
>
> > True... but PHP can run on IIS too :)
> >
> > At 17:46 16/08/03, you wrote:
> >
> >> ASP only runs on Micro$haft IIS -- the most remotely hacked web
> >> server on
> >> earth.
> >>
> >> Flexible in terms of the number of ways you can be "0wn3ed", maybe.
> >>
> >> At 09:18 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> You are obviously biased.  ;)
> >>>
> >>> With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands
> >>> down I
> >>> find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the PHP
> >>> any day.
> >>> However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the
> >>> scheme of
> >>> development ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael A. Hobson
> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> (310) 649-0792
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[jc]

The point is you have the *choice*. With mircro$haft you have freedoms
taken away. oh how much does it cost to set up a legal ASP box? And how
much for a legal PHP/Apache box :o?? I personally dont trust anything
from a company that large. Having read about how ms manipulated and held
back netscape i am convinced they should be kicked squarely in the nuts.
Of course if you like expensive software from the bloat king who am I to
try an change your mind. Myself, well I will be returning to my Linux
box to play with my backend PHP library code. Which was so easy to write
its untrue. If you can figure out C++ then I challenge you not to find
PHP the most easy language on the planet.
jc

Daniel Koppes wrote:

True... but PHP can run on IIS too :)

At 17:46 16/08/03, you wrote:

ASP only runs on Micro$haft IIS -- the most remotely hacked web
server on
earth.
Flexible in terms of the number of ways you can be "0wn3ed", maybe.

At 09:18 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:

You are obviously biased.  ;)

With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands
down I
find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the PHP
any day.
However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the
scheme of
development ;)


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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Daniel Koppes]

True... but PHP can run on IIS too :)

At 17:46 16/08/03, you wrote:
ASP only runs on Micro$haft IIS -- the most remotely hacked web server on
earth.
Flexible in terms of the number of ways you can be "0wn3ed", maybe.

At 09:18 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
You are obviously biased.  ;)

With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands down I
find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the PHP any day.
However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the scheme of
development ;)
Michael A. Hobson
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(310) 649-0792
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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Michael A. Hobson]

ASP only runs on Micro$haft IIS -- the most remotely hacked web server on
earth.
Flexible in terms of the number of ways you can be "0wn3ed", maybe.

At 09:18 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
You are obviously biased.  ;)

With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands down I
find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the PHP any day.
However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the scheme of
development ;)
Michael A. Hobson
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[Phil]

I would have to agree with you there. I've done development work with ASP, ASP.NET and 
PHP (a lot
more with ASP and ASP.NET though) and PHP seems to suffer from a lot of the problems 
that ASP
used to (bad organisation, complicated coding, no sense of a unified application, 
etc.) which were
addressed in ASP.NET.
PHP does have a long way to go to make it up there and PHP5 is looking quite good.
Although maybe it's time I got off my ass and made some tools to make this whole world 
a better
place...

-Phil

Quoting Shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> You are obviously biased. ;)
>
> With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands
> down I
> find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the PHP any
> day.
> However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the scheme
> of
> development ;)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeff Katz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:19 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder
>
>
> > My only comment here is that php is way better than asp ;)
> >
> > _
> >
> > Jeff 'Kuja' Katz
> > Leader, Digital Paintball
> > http://www.digitalpaintball.net
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
> > Powerfool
> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 8:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP
> Coder
> >
> >
> > I am a database administrator with a lot of SQL experience, good ASP
> and
> > some perl. I can send a resume if you want it.
> >
> > Richard Rice
> > BSCS/DBA
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane
> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder
> >
> > If you are qualified in
> >
> > SQL Server
> > ASP
> > Perl
> >
> > And if you have some knowledge atleast of HLSTATS and are interested
> in
> > a project with a well established game server company
> > (http://www.phxx.net , http://www.phxx.com , 300+ game sessions and
> > growing!) with the potential to make some money, please contact me.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Serious inquiries only.
> >
> > Shane
> > PHXX CIO
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[Shane]

You are obviously biased.  ;)

With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands down I
find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the PHP any day.
However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the scheme of
development ;)


- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Katz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:19 PM
Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder


> My only comment here is that php is way better than asp ;)
>
> _
>
>   Jeff 'Kuja' Katz
>   Leader, Digital Paintball
>   http://www.digitalpaintball.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
> Powerfool
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 8:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder
>
>
> I am a database administrator with a lot of SQL experience, good ASP and
> some perl. I can send a resume if you want it.
>
> Richard Rice
> BSCS/DBA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder
>
> If you are qualified in
>
> SQL Server
> ASP
> Perl
>
> And if you have some knowledge atleast of HLSTATS and are interested in
> a project with a well established game server company
> (http://www.phxx.net , http://www.phxx.com , 300+ game sessions and
> growing!) with the potential to make some money, please contact me.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Serious inquiries only.
>
> Shane
> PHXX CIO
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RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Jeff Katz]

My only comment here is that php is way better than asp ;)

_

  Jeff 'Kuja' Katz
  Leader, Digital Paintball
  http://www.digitalpaintball.net


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick
Powerfool
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 8:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder


I am a database administrator with a lot of SQL experience, good ASP and
some perl. I can send a resume if you want it.

Richard Rice
BSCS/DBA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

If you are qualified in

SQL Server
ASP
Perl

And if you have some knowledge atleast of HLSTATS and are interested in
a project with a well established game server company
(http://www.phxx.net , http://www.phxx.com , 300+ game sessions and
growing!) with the potential to make some money, please contact me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Serious inquiries only.

Shane
PHXX CIO

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RE: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Rick Powerfool]

I am a database administrator with a lot of SQL experience, good ASP and
some perl. I can send a resume if you want it.

Richard Rice
BSCS/DBA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

If you are qualified in

SQL Server
ASP
Perl

And if you have some knowledge atleast of HLSTATS and are interested in a
project with a well established game server company (http://www.phxx.net ,
http://www.phxx.com , 300+ game sessions and growing!) with the potential to
make some money, please contact me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Serious inquiries only.

Shane
PHXX CIO

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Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Michael Fisher]

I am very qualified in ASP & SQL. My career is developing and using both. I
am only somewhat experienced in Perl but would be able to grasp what I need
quickly I am sure.

I would be very interested.

Michael Fisher (desNotes)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Shane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:25 PM
Subject: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder


> If you are qualified in
>
> SQL Server
> ASP
> Perl
>
> And if you have some knowledge atleast of HLSTATS and are interested in a
> project with a well established game server company (http://www.phxx.net ,
> http://www.phxx.com , 300+ game sessions and growing!) with the potential
to
> make some money, please contact me.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Serious inquiries only.
>
> Shane
> PHXX CIO
>
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[hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder

[Shane]

If you are qualified in

SQL Server
ASP
Perl

And if you have some knowledge atleast of HLSTATS and are interested in a
project with a well established game server company (http://www.phxx.net ,
http://www.phxx.com , 300+ game sessions and growing!) with the potential to
make some money, please contact me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Serious inquiries only.

Shane
PHXX CIO

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