[hlds] VAC2, OUT NOW!

2005-03-26 Thread Optus Bot
Alfred, Who gives to RATS bottom?.. Take a pic of you self and post it,
blot youre face out(with M$paint of course) but take a pic of you at you
puter, then ill blow a goat and show it LIVE ON FRIDAY,  so you can have a
bat!

___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


RE: [hlds] VAC2, OUT NOW!

2005-03-26 Thread Jason O. Washburn
That was really stupid!  I hope this list doesn't end up this way.


Bleeding Tomato

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Optus Bot
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:29 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] VAC2, OUT NOW!


Alfred, Who gives to RATS bottom?.. Take a pic of you self and post
it, blot youre face out(with M$paint of course) but take a pic of you at
you puter, then ill blow a goat and show it LIVE ON FRIDAY,  so you can
have a bat!



___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds



___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


Re: [hlds] VAC2, OUT NOW!

2005-03-26 Thread Graham Robinson
Delete the email, ignore it and it will just go away


On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:04:09 -0600, Jason O. Washburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That was really stupid!  I hope this list doesn't end up this way.

 Bleeding Tomato


___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


RE: [hlds] VAC2, OUT NOW!

2005-03-26 Thread Jason O. Washburn
Believe me that was done as soon as I read it.


Bleeding Tomato

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Robinson
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:09 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC2, OUT NOW!


Delete the email, ignore it and it will just go away


On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:04:09 -0600, Jason O. Washburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That was really stupid!  I hope this list doesn't end up this way.

 Bleeding Tomato


___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds



___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch

2005-03-26 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
What good is that when they just get another account and are back in 5
minutes?

Why not prevent nosteam from working in the first place?

We paid for the game, why shouldn't they have to?

- voogru.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:16 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch

Nosteam and the like will be considered cheats (and users will be banned
for using them).

- Alfred

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:04 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch

Will VAC2 prevent the use of nosteam though?

Not much point in having them banned if they come right back in 10
minutes.

-Plasma

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch


 [quote] If you have any cheats for multiplayer games installed on your

 computer, now would be a good time to uninstall and stop using them.
 [/quote]

 So is Valve taking the stand that once a cheater is OK as long as it's

 not during our pre-released timeframe that we'll be watching period?
 How about you start logging last week and then take that information
 into effect
next
 week so you smoke ALL of the detected cheats currently in use instead
 of letting them shut them off long enough for you to start your
 testing and give myg0t time to find a way around that too so they can
 all turn them on again. Our view is that if you're low-life enough to
 have EVER use them
than
 you have violated the TOS of the purchased game and they should be
 dealt with as such. But then again this is Valve we're talking about
 and they
only
 give a bite with no teeth. You have a published TOS that you need to
stand
 behind and MAKE the cheats/hacks an issue of the past. Not give them
warning
 that the update is coming. We've dealt with these people for nearly a
 year without your help and now you give them the opportunity to
'redeem'
 themselves. Sure, ok. If they discontinue use of cheats that your
 company has allowed to propagate then who are we to complain right?
 Ultimately,
you
 left the people that give your clients a place to play in the wind and
some
 of us stuck through it all. (We support 1.6 but not CSS) We gave you
nearly
 a year to do something about it. The facts speak for themselves.

 To all employees of ValveSoftware: You are obviously not able to deal
 with the cheating/hacking of your software. Your history has proved to

 the
entire
 community that you are unable/unwilling to take the necessary measures

 to dela with cheating/hacking. I implore you to acquire some type of
 association with the AC community to save your game from
self-destruction.
I
 can say without reservation that I personally know that over 50% of
 the people I know that were avid CS players have left the game for
 CoD, BF/DC, Bia. That perspective shows me that there is a complete
 lack of confidence that Valve will follow through with their TOS
 and/or they are unable to do so. The fact remains that for your game
 to continue to be the leading edge of online gaming that AC needs to
 be TOP priority. History has shown your view otherwise. IMMEDIATE,
 SWIFT, and DECISIVE action is required to deal with the onslaught of
 cheating/hacking in the game that you are in control of. If you can't
 handle the job then it only makes sense to give the job
to
 a dedicated team that can. That does no harm to your firm but affirms
 your company's desire to keep pure the game that you spend so much
 time/money
in
 developing.

 I hope these words do not fall on deaf ears.

 Ray S.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred
 Reynolds
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:32 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch

 VAC2 is top priority right now, check your Steam client for the
 message we released today about it.

 - Alfred

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 4:26 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch

 Sure, great, whatever. I've been here for years as well and I've seen
 about
 11 months go by since the last VAC update. So how about that quote in
 late December of VAC2 is coming 'soon'?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:19 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch

 If you consider what goes through this list a torrent, what do you
 consider what goes through the SteamPowered forums? :-)

 I would imagine that 

RE: [hlds] DEMO's Corrupt

2005-03-26 Thread Jason O. Washburn
Yes I also need a viewer for the DEM files.  Please help out if you can.


Bleeding Tomato

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:57 AM
To: HLDS
Subject: [hlds] DEMO's Corrupt


Ok, the lastest update has screwed all Demo's up so that:

1. Old demos (Source  HL) cannot currently be played

2. New Demos on HL cannot be read by 3rd party demo viewing apps like
rewelator etc.


Anybody got a 3rd party app that can:

a) Read the new demos like rewelator could (great for checking demos for
STEAM_ID's)

b) Make pre fix release demos work with current HL  Source engines

Did I sum up the state of things currently correctly?

Does something exist yet that the rest of you know about?

Feel free to share :)

___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds



___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


Re: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch

2005-03-26 Thread wArgOd
Sure. Why not require biometrics identity registration to go with the
license. Fingerprints, hand geometry, retinal scan, etc?
myg0t will run out of bodies pretty quick and would no longer be able to
play.
GRIN
Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
What good is that when they just get another account and are back in 5
minutes?
Why not prevent nosteam from working in the first place?
We paid for the game, why shouldn't they have to?
- voogru.


___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


Re: [hlds] Source Engine and Counter-Strike: Source update

2005-03-26 Thread Graham Robinson
I don't know whether this always happens and I haven't noticed it before...

But I have noticed that the source update replaces my MOTD with the
default one. Wouldn't it be more logical that this be one of the files
that is left, the same way that autoexec, mapcycle, etc. are just
left?

Graham


On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:02:25 -0800, Alfred Reynolds
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have released an update to Source Engine and Counter-Strike: Source.
 Run the hldsupdatetool to get this update.

 This update prevents the te bug for any mod and also fixes
 Counter-Strike: Source crashing when bringing up the budget panel.

 - Alfred

 ___
 To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
 visit:
 http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


Re: [hlds] DEMO's Corrupt

2005-03-26 Thread Whisper
All CS 1.6 and CS Source Demos

Don't know about other mods, but suspect the same problem for them too!


On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:36:43 -0600, Jason O. Washburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes I also need a viewer for the DEM files.  Please help out if you can.

 Bleeding Tomato

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:57 AM
 To: HLDS
 Subject: [hlds] DEMO's Corrupt

 Ok, the lastest update has screwed all Demo's up so that:

 1. Old demos (Source  HL) cannot currently be played

 2. New Demos on HL cannot be read by 3rd party demo viewing apps like
 rewelator etc.

 Anybody got a 3rd party app that can:

 a) Read the new demos like rewelator could (great for checking demos for
 STEAM_ID's)

 b) Make pre fix release demos work with current HL  Source engines

 Did I sum up the state of things currently correctly?

 Does something exist yet that the rest of you know about?

 Feel free to share :)

 ___
 To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,
 please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

 ___
 To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
 visit:
 http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds


Re: [hlds] Source Engine and Counter-Strike: Source update

2005-03-26 Thread Kevin Cantrell
do you have -verify_all in your command line for the
hldsupdatetool???

The only time I noticed that it overwrote my motd.txt



__
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please 
visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds