Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control
Child porn takes that logic to a whole new level. And it's a serious issue with Bush's new acts against the porn industry. It's a serious threat now. - Original Message - From: Vadim Kotlyar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control I don't understand, Counter-Strike is rated M...for Mature...as in able to handle inappropriateness. The whole game is shooting people and feeling good about it...how can anything else be worse? More people need to be reminded again - it's just a game. Sorry for O/T. - Original Message - From: Brian M Frain (eternal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] haha, yeah right. It isn't that popular, come on now. Besided you don't have the physical interaction that you do with other past times. No, it is hardly comparable. On 10/15/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I think it is insane that people have not come to realise that it is no longer just a video game but a recreational pastime shared by millions of people, and the same rules apply to it as to any other sport or recreational pastime. On 10/16/05, Brian M Frain (eternal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am suprised no one else finds it absolutely insane that there is talk of lawyers over a video game. On 10/15/05, Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] use nemod light http://www.mattie.info/cs/forums/viewforum.php?f=38 you can do nm_sprayinfo to find out who sprayed it and ban them On 10/15/05, Marcelo Bezerra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would really be usefull. I see they are .vtf files, but can we find out who sent them? On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, ]FUSION[ Gray Death wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I once had a little tool to watch through the spraypaint cache file of the server. This tool combined with the ability to see which ID loaded it up, would be pretty nice. For me it's not only about don't let them spray child porn, nazi, ... sprays it's also about not letting them play on my server at all. Does someone know a tool like that for hlds/srcds cache files? Or isn't the ID information stored in the cache file? Tyler Cook wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] keep sv_allowdownload set to 1 unless you have an sv_downloadurl On 10/14/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] As I understand it player sprays are uploaded to the server and then downloaded to the respective clients, so just to be safe you want to block content in both directions. Also, it forces people to download content from your sv_downloadurl instead of bugerising around on the server Cheers On 10/14/05, Alex Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought allowdownload was related to custom maps and such as well. however, allowupload 0 will stop the tags getting uploaded in the first place. Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] sv_allowupload 0 sv_allowdownload 0 On 10/14/05, James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newb question I know, so just help me and be done with it, no need to trash me: How do I disable the ability to spray in game? Recently we recieved a legal threat about exposing minors to vulger images, and have had a few people spray child porn photos to get a rise out of people. While we do ban instantly, we can't keep up with it. It got so bad that our lawyers have simply advised us to remove the ability all together to prevent further conflict... So help? -- Sincerely, James McKenna ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your
Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. On 10/16/05, Vadim Kotlyar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand, Counter-Strike is rated M...for Mature...as in able to handle inappropriateness. The whole game is shooting people and feeling good about it...how can anything else be worse? More people need to be reminded again - it's just a game. Sorry for O/T. - Original Message - From: Brian M Frain (eternal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] haha, yeah right. It isn't that popular, come on now. Besided you don't have the physical interaction that you do with other past times. No, it is hardly comparable. On 10/15/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I think it is insane that people have not come to realise that it is no longer just a video game but a recreational pastime shared by millions of people, and the same rules apply to it as to any other sport or recreational pastime. On 10/16/05, Brian M Frain (eternal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am suprised no one else finds it absolutely insane that there is talk of lawyers over a video game. On 10/15/05, Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] use nemod light http://www.mattie.info/cs/forums/viewforum.php?f=38 you can do nm_sprayinfo to find out who sprayed it and ban them On 10/15/05, Marcelo Bezerra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would really be usefull. I see they are .vtf files, but can we find out who sent them? On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, ]FUSION[ Gray Death wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I once had a little tool to watch through the spraypaint cache file of the server. This tool combined with the ability to see which ID loaded it up, would be pretty nice. For me it's not only about don't let them spray child porn, nazi, ... sprays it's also about not letting them play on my server at all. Does someone know a tool like that for hlds/srcds cache files? Or isn't the ID information stored in the cache file? Tyler Cook wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] keep sv_allowdownload set to 1 unless you have an sv_downloadurl On 10/14/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] As I understand it player sprays are uploaded to the server and then downloaded to the respective clients, so just to be safe you want to block content in both directions. Also, it forces people to download content from your sv_downloadurl instead of bugerising around on the server Cheers On 10/14/05, Alex Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought allowdownload was related to custom maps and such as well. however, allowupload 0 will stop the tags getting uploaded in the first place. Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] sv_allowupload 0 sv_allowdownload 0 On 10/14/05, James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newb question I know, so just help me and be done with it, no need to trash me: How do I disable the ability to spray in game? Recently we recieved a legal threat about exposing minors to vulger images, and have had a few people spray child porn photos to get a rise out of people. While we do ban instantly, we can't keep up with it. It got so bad that our lawyers have simply advised us to remove the ability all together to prevent further conflict... So help? -- Sincerely, James McKenna ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] i think its insane u havent dled nemod yet! On 10/15/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. On 10/16/05, Vadim Kotlyar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand, Counter-Strike is rated M...for Mature...as in able to handle inappropriateness. The whole game is shooting people and feeling good about it...how can anything else be worse? More people need to be reminded again - it's just a game. Sorry for O/T. - Original Message - From: Brian M Frain (eternal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] haha, yeah right. It isn't that popular, come on now. Besided you don't have the physical interaction that you do with other past times. No, it is hardly comparable. On 10/15/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I think it is insane that people have not come to realise that it is no longer just a video game but a recreational pastime shared by millions of people, and the same rules apply to it as to any other sport or recreational pastime. On 10/16/05, Brian M Frain (eternal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am suprised no one else finds it absolutely insane that there is talk of lawyers over a video game. On 10/15/05, Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] use nemod light http://www.mattie.info/cs/forums/viewforum.php?f=38 you can do nm_sprayinfo to find out who sprayed it and ban them On 10/15/05, Marcelo Bezerra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would really be usefull. I see they are .vtf files, but can we find out who sent them? On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 11:30 +0200, ]FUSION[ Gray Death wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I once had a little tool to watch through the spraypaint cache file of the server. This tool combined with the ability to see which ID loaded it up, would be pretty nice. For me it's not only about don't let them spray child porn, nazi, ... sprays it's also about not letting them play on my server at all. Does someone know a tool like that for hlds/srcds cache files? Or isn't the ID information stored in the cache file? Tyler Cook wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] keep sv_allowdownload set to 1 unless you have an sv_downloadurl On 10/14/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] As I understand it player sprays are uploaded to the server and then downloaded to the respective clients, so just to be safe you want to block content in both directions. Also, it forces people to download content from your sv_downloadurl instead of bugerising around on the server Cheers On 10/14/05, Alex Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought allowdownload was related to custom maps and such as well. however, allowupload 0 will stop the tags getting uploaded in the first place. Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] sv_allowupload 0 sv_allowdownload 0 On 10/14/05, James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newb question I know, so just help me and be done with it, no need to trash me: How do I disable the ability to spray in game? Recently we recieved a legal threat about exposing minors to vulger images, and have had a few people spray child porn photos to get a rise out of people. While we do ban instantly, we can't keep up with it. It got so bad that our lawyers have simply advised us to remove the ability all
[hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Whisper, I agree, this it's just a game excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this it's just a game excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take away every players ability to express theirself in a good manner through sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I really do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken action against them by banning them. Mike - Original Message - From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this it's just a game excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
i think its just sad that people have to have porn sprays.. let a lone child porn sprays. i mean what exactly is the reason to even have one? all they do is draw attention to you.. so i guess its the next best thing to hacking? except porn sprays won't get your steam account locked. - Original Message - From: James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing minors to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all the mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when all my admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, and consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the screen, she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my fault, because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. -- Sincerely, James McKenna - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take away every players ability to express theirself in a good manner through sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I really do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken action against them by banning them. Mike - Original Message - From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this it's just a game excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Instead it will get you locked up, way to go. Get all the details of these idiots to the relevant authorities and see how funny they think it is. Steve / K - Original Message - From: sKel [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think its just sad that people have to have porn sprays.. let a lone child porn sprays. i mean what exactly is the reason to even have one? all they do is draw attention to you.. so i guess its the next best thing to hacking? except porn sprays won't get your steam account locked. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I don't think anyone here is debating over whether or not such a spray is wrong, as we all know it is and it is sad that some have to revert to that kind of behavior. I think what got my panties in a bunch is when this poor guy started talking about potential litigation. It's a freaking game and games are meant to be fun. Then we start comparing it to real life and how it should be handled in the same way. That just isn't possible, case in pointthis mailing list. How many times has someone typed something that was completely taken out of context because it doesn't have the body language and facial animations to accompany and supplement the true meaning of the statement. I could come in here and say Hey whisper you fucker and many including him would probably be insulted, but do it in person where I give him a friendly tap on the arm and smile while I am doing it and it is a whole other situation. There just is no way to apply real life social norms to an online world and because of that can someone really be sued over anothers actions in which they have little control? Just deal with everyone that uses any kind of porn sprays, that is what I do. I have found that the ONLY real way to get a players attention is to affect their score. Slay for any offense you find and ban for the major ones. On 10/16/05, Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead it will get you locked up, way to go. Get all the details of these idiots to the relevant authorities and see how funny they think it is. Steve / K - Original Message - From: sKel [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think its just sad that people have to have porn sprays.. let a lone child porn sprays. i mean what exactly is the reason to even have one? all they do is draw attention to you.. so i guess its the next best thing to hacking? except porn sprays won't get your steam account locked. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
SV: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Amen. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Steven Hartland Sendt: 16. oktober 2005 20:56 Til: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Emne: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Instead it will get you locked up, way to go. Get all the details of these idiots to the relevant authorities and see how funny they think it is. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On 10/16/05, Ako [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Steven Hartland Sendt: 16. oktober 2005 20:56 Til: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Emne: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Instead it will get you locked up, way to go. Get all the details of these idiots to the relevant authorities and see how funny they think it is. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds It's like janet jaksons titty where the superbowl is the server and the titty is child porn. The superbowl could not stop the titty yet it was still blamed for the unfortanate inncident. The titty can be explained if you realize that it is just a poor misguided sole trying to make themselves relevant by resorting to the only means they have. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] CSS vs DODS Crashes
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On 10/14/05, James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, I watched the steam.exe client binary attempt to access every single protected process running on one system. that'd be vac, scanning your memory for known hacks :) -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Disable sprays or set decal frequency to 0 and please end this thread -Original Message- From: [xXx] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:52 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control excuse me, could you guys please end this sick ass child porn thread so i dont have to keep seeing it in my email? - Original Message - From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this it's just a game excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to the game. On 10/17/05, James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing minors to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all the mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when all my admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, and consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the screen, she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my fault, because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. -- Sincerely, James McKenna - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take away every players ability to express theirself in a good manner through sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I really do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken action against them by banning them. Mike - Original Message - From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this it's just a game excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the It's just a game statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] CSS vs DODS Crashes
good point. On 10/17/05, dasjoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On 10/14/05, James Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, I watched the steam.exe client binary attempt to access every single protected process running on one system. that'd be vac, scanning your memory for known hacks :) -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server Admin needs?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ive been running our communitys servers since 1999. Our current game servers are H-L1 Natural Selection, HL2DM, HiddenSource, DoDs and a rented BF2 Ranked. I know a most plugins have included lots of sounds and specials says with some neat blow up, freeze, set on fire ect. player effects. Most our games are Source based now. These are the things I would want in a plugin in priority order. #1 Cross mod capability. Works with all H-L based games/mods. #2 Reserved slots #3 The ability to give kick/ban to some admins. #4 The ability to change maps to some admins. These may not make your plugin the most popular, but it would be the most usefull to me. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
