Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[matan nov]

Epoch fail :(
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/662/updateou1.jpg

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Dog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Did cp_well and ctf_well get updated, again?
> They re-updated
>
> -Dog
>
> 2008/6/20 Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > A new required update for Team Fortress 2 has been released.  Please run
> > hldsupdatetool to receive it.  The specific changes include:
> >
> > - Fixed "Hot on your Heels" counting non-flamethrower based kills
> > - Fixed some Pyro achievements not working on some servers
> > - Fixed Compression Blast and Flare Gun trail particles on DX8
> > - Fixed Spy cloaked as Scout in response rules for all classes
> >
> > Jason
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Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need Help]

[Ronny Schedel]

Changing affinity on Linux is the worst thing you can do for your servers.


> Hi,
>
> Yes, I set the priority to -20 (best possible) and assigned 1 server per
> core, but this doesn't change anything on the situation.
>
> Saint K.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L 
> Havener
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:06 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need 
> Help]
>
> have you tried assigning affinity?
>
> Saint K. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You exactly have the same issue as we on our Linux machines.
>>
>> I thought it was either the network or the kernel, as all machines share
> the
>> same issue, and I couldn't trace anything down.
>>
>> I've verified the network is good by using Smokeping monitoring, and I've
>> tested several completely different kernels, but still encounter the same
>> issue.
>>
>> I haven't really seen the servers go to 100% CPU load, as there is no 
>> real
>> pattern in the spikes... Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. It
>> doesn't really matter what map is playing in our case.
>>
>> I am 100% sure that one of the servers has ran without this issue on the
>> exact same config. That machine hasn't had any hardware or software
> changes,
>> accept of TF2 updates. I believe we're having this issue for over 2 
>> months
>> now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:21 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need Help]
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I'm getting these random lag spikes on one of my boxes. It's caused by
> SRCDS
>> somehow magically going into 100% CPU usage and lagging down all the 
>> other
>> servers on the box. (Ussualy lats 1-4 seconds, rather annoying)
>>
>> Here is a screenshot to illustrate the problem.
>> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3594/srcdsspikekz1.png
>>
>> At first I thought it might be a plugin... but now that the free weekend
> has
>> hit I restarted the servers whit out any plugins and I am still getting
>> them. I have watched every single SRCDS process and I do know that SRCDS
> is
>> causing this... not some other process. So far this seems to happen on
>> Goldrush (atleast that's what I have noticed).
>>
>> Any one has any ideas? Thanks!
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Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need Help]

[Saint K.]

In my case it doesn't really give any performance difference if I assign em
to a core, or let the machine figure it out itself.

Saint K.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:41 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need Help]

Changing affinity on Linux is the worst thing you can do for your servers.


> Hi,
>
> Yes, I set the priority to -20 (best possible) and assigned 1 server per
> core, but this doesn't change anything on the situation.
>
> Saint K.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L 
> Havener
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:06 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need 
> Help]
>
> have you tried assigning affinity?
>
> Saint K. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You exactly have the same issue as we on our Linux machines.
>>
>> I thought it was either the network or the kernel, as all machines share
> the
>> same issue, and I couldn't trace anything down.
>>
>> I've verified the network is good by using Smokeping monitoring, and I've
>> tested several completely different kernels, but still encounter the same
>> issue.
>>
>> I haven't really seen the servers go to 100% CPU load, as there is no 
>> real
>> pattern in the spikes... Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. It
>> doesn't really matter what map is playing in our case.
>>
>> I am 100% sure that one of the servers has ran without this issue on the
>> exact same config. That machine hasn't had any hardware or software
> changes,
>> accept of TF2 updates. I believe we're having this issue for over 2 
>> months
>> now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:21 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need Help]
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I'm getting these random lag spikes on one of my boxes. It's caused by
> SRCDS
>> somehow magically going into 100% CPU usage and lagging down all the 
>> other
>> servers on the box. (Ussualy lats 1-4 seconds, rather annoying)
>>
>> Here is a screenshot to illustrate the problem.
>> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3594/srcdsspikekz1.png
>>
>> At first I thought it might be a plugin... but now that the free weekend
> has
>> hit I restarted the servers whit out any plugins and I am still getting
>> them. I have watched every single SRCDS process and I do know that SRCDS
> is
>> causing this... not some other process. So far this seems to happen on
>> Goldrush (atleast that's what I have noticed).
>>
>> Any one has any ideas? Thanks!
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Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need Help]

[1nsane]

I ussualy run 5 servers per quad box. If I assign affinity somehow it only
makes things worse, lower FPS, people teleporting around the map
sometimes... meh :(

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In my case it doesn't really give any performance difference if I assign em
> to a core, or let the machine figure it out itself.
>
> Saint K.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:41 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need
> Help]
>
> Changing affinity on Linux is the worst thing you can do for your servers.
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, I set the priority to -20 (best possible) and assigned 1 server per
> > core, but this doesn't change anything on the situation.
> >
> > Saint K.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L
> > Havener
> > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:06 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need
> > Help]
> >
> > have you tried assigning affinity?
> >
> > Saint K. wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> You exactly have the same issue as we on our Linux machines.
> >>
> >> I thought it was either the network or the kernel, as all machines share
> > the
> >> same issue, and I couldn't trace anything down.
> >>
> >> I've verified the network is good by using Smokeping monitoring, and
> I've
> >> tested several completely different kernels, but still encounter the
> same
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> I haven't really seen the servers go to 100% CPU load, as there is no
> >> real
> >> pattern in the spikes... Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. It
> >> doesn't really matter what map is playing in our case.
> >>
> >> I am 100% sure that one of the servers has ran without this issue on the
> >> exact same config. That machine hasn't had any hardware or software
> > changes,
> >> accept of TF2 updates. I believe we're having this issue for over 2
> >> months
> >> now.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane
> >> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:21 PM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: [hlds] Random 100% CPU Usage Spike Across All Cores [Need Help]
> >>
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> I'm getting these random lag spikes on one of my boxes. It's caused by
> > SRCDS
> >> somehow magically going into 100% CPU usage and lagging down all the
> >> other
> >> servers on the box. (Ussualy lats 1-4 seconds, rather annoying)
> >>
> >> Here is a screenshot to illustrate the problem.
> >> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3594/srcdsspikekz1.png
> >>
> >> At first I thought it might be a plugin... but now that the free weekend
> > has
> >> hit I restarted the servers whit out any plugins and I am still getting
> >> them. I have watched every single SRCDS process and I do know that SRCDS
> > is
> >> causing this... not some other process. So far this seems to happen on
> >> Goldrush (atleast that's what I have noticed).
> >>
> >> Any one has any ideas? Thanks!
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[hlds] HLStastX usage

[Keeper]

I know this is not a source game issue, but since it is written for and used
by source game operators I wanted to ask here:

Is there no longer any community based support for HLStatsX?  I noticed Tobi
has removed the forums from his site.  Somebody has pointed out a serious
security flaw to me that we fixed.  If it isn't rolled out into the free
downloaded version I wanted to make the fix public.

I will of course post it here, but wanted to know if there was anywhere else
off-list that I could inform users of HLStasX.  Thankfully it's an easy fix.

We have found a security hole, but to our knowledge it hasn't been exploited
yet at any of the servers that we have checked out.

Thanks,
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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Mike Stiehm]

Yep, Great crew at www.lart2150.com
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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Cody Robertson]

Is it a SQL injection / xss? Please send me information regarding this  
thanks. I'm personally not aware of any other communities for hlstatsx.

- Cody Robertson

On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:12 AM, "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know this is not a source game issue, but since it is written for  
> and used
> by source game operators I wanted to ask here:
>
> Is there no longer any community based support for HLStatsX?  I  
> noticed Tobi
> has removed the forums from his site.  Somebody has pointed out a  
> serious
> security flaw to me that we fixed.  If it isn't rolled out into the  
> free
> downloaded version I wanted to make the fix public.
>
> I will of course post it here, but wanted to know if there was  
> anywhere else
> off-list that I could inform users of HLStasX.  Thankfully it's an  
> easy fix.
>
> We have found a security hole, but to our knowledge it hasn't been  
> exploited
> yet at any of the servers that we have checked out.
>
> Thanks,
> Keeper
>
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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Leonard L. Church]

If they don't cleanse the input to a database, they deserve what they get.

I swear. I'm tempted to name my kid ' or 1=1;drop users



Cody Robertson wrote:
> Is it a SQL injection / xss? Please send me information regarding this  
> thanks. I'm personally not aware of any other communities for hlstatsx.
> 
> - Cody Robertson
> 
> On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:12 AM, "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I know this is not a source game issue, but since it is written for  
>> and used
>> by source game operators I wanted to ask here:
>>
>> Is there no longer any community based support for HLStatsX?  I  
>> noticed Tobi
>> has removed the forums from his site.  Somebody has pointed out a  
>> serious
>> security flaw to me that we fixed.  If it isn't rolled out into the  
>> free
>> downloaded version I wanted to make the fix public.
>>
>> I will of course post it here, but wanted to know if there was  
>> anywhere else
>> off-list that I could inform users of HLStasX.  Thankfully it's an  
>> easy fix.
>>
>> We have found a security hole, but to our knowledge it hasn't been  
>> exploited
>> yet at any of the servers that we have checked out.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Keeper
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Chad Austin]

http://xkcd.com/327/

Leonard L. Church wrote:
> If they don't cleanse the input to a database, they deserve what they get.
>
> I swear. I'm tempted to name my kid ' or 1=1;drop users
>
>
>
> Cody Robertson wrote:
>   
>> Is it a SQL injection / xss? Please send me information regarding this  
>> thanks. I'm personally not aware of any other communities for hlstatsx.
>>
>> - Cody Robertson
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:12 AM, "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I know this is not a source game issue, but since it is written for  
>>> and used
>>> by source game operators I wanted to ask here:
>>>
>>> Is there no longer any community based support for HLStatsX?  I  
>>> noticed Tobi
>>> has removed the forums from his site.  Somebody has pointed out a  
>>> serious
>>> security flaw to me that we fixed.  If it isn't rolled out into the  
>>> free
>>> downloaded version I wanted to make the fix public.
>>>
>>> I will of course post it here, but wanted to know if there was  
>>> anywhere else
>>> off-list that I could inform users of HLStasX.  Thankfully it's an  
>>> easy fix.
>>>
>>> We have found a security hole, but to our knowledge it hasn't been  
>>> exploited
>>> yet at any of the servers that we have checked out.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Keeper
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Leonard L. Church]

LOL! One of my favorite of his comics actually. :)

Chad Austin wrote:
> http://xkcd.com/327/
> 
> Leonard L. Church wrote:
>> If they don't cleanse the input to a database, they deserve what they get.
>>
>> I swear. I'm tempted to name my kid ' or 1=1;drop users
>>
>>
>>
>> Cody Robertson wrote:
>>   
>>> Is it a SQL injection / xss? Please send me information regarding this  
>>> thanks. I'm personally not aware of any other communities for hlstatsx.
>>>
>>> - Cody Robertson
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:12 AM, "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
 I know this is not a source game issue, but since it is written for  
 and used
 by source game operators I wanted to ask here:

 Is there no longer any community based support for HLStatsX?  I  
 noticed Tobi
 has removed the forums from his site.  Somebody has pointed out a  
 serious
 security flaw to me that we fixed.  If it isn't rolled out into the  
 free
 downloaded version I wanted to make the fix public.

 I will of course post it here, but wanted to know if there was  
 anywhere else
 off-list that I could inform users of HLStasX.  Thankfully it's an  
 easy fix.

 We have found a security hole, but to our knowledge it hasn't been  
 exploited
 yet at any of the servers that we have checked out.

 Thanks,
 Keeper


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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Chad Austin]

If hlstatsx is that real nice stats website w/ sql you can set up for CS 
1.6, search for banana's playground, he supports it.

Leonard L. Church wrote:
> LOL! One of my favorite of his comics actually. :)
>
> Chad Austin wrote:
>   
>> http://xkcd.com/327/
>>
>> Leonard L. Church wrote:
>> 
>>> If they don't cleanse the input to a database, they deserve what they get.
>>>
>>> I swear. I'm tempted to name my kid ' or 1=1;drop users
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cody Robertson wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 Is it a SQL injection / xss? Please send me information regarding this  
 thanks. I'm personally not aware of any other communities for hlstatsx.

 - Cody Robertson

 On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:12 AM, "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
 
> I know this is not a source game issue, but since it is written for  
> and used
> by source game operators I wanted to ask here:
>
> Is there no longer any community based support for HLStatsX?  I  
> noticed Tobi
> has removed the forums from his site.  Somebody has pointed out a  
> serious
> security flaw to me that we fixed.  If it isn't rolled out into the  
> free
> downloaded version I wanted to make the fix public.
>
> I will of course post it here, but wanted to know if there was  
> anywhere else
> off-list that I could inform users of HLStasX.  Thankfully it's an  
> easy fix.
>
> We have found a security hole, but to our knowledge it hasn't been  
> exploited
> yet at any of the servers that we have checked out.
>
> Thanks,
> Keeper
>
>
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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Nicholas Hastings]

You're thikning hlstats, which may also be affected. This is hlstatsx

Chad Austin wrote:
> If hlstatsx is that real nice stats website w/ sql you can set up for CS 
> 1.6, search for banana's playground, he supports it.
>
> Leonard L. Church wrote:
>   
>> LOL! One of my favorite of his comics actually. :)
>>
>> Chad Austin wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> http://xkcd.com/327/
>>>
>>> Leonard L. Church wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 If they don't cleanse the input to a database, they deserve what they get.

 I swear. I'm tempted to name my kid ' or 1=1;drop users



 Cody Robertson wrote:
   
   
 
> Is it a SQL injection / xss? Please send me information regarding this  
> thanks. I'm personally not aware of any other communities for hlstatsx.
>
> - Cody Robertson
>
> On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:12 AM, "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>   
>> I know this is not a source game issue, but since it is written for  
>> and used
>> by source game operators I wanted to ask here:
>>
>> Is there no longer any community based support for HLStatsX?  I  
>> noticed Tobi
>> has removed the forums from his site.  Somebody has pointed out a  
>> serious
>> security flaw to me that we fixed.  If it isn't rolled out into the  
>> free
>> downloaded version I wanted to make the fix public.
>>
>> I will of course post it here, but wanted to know if there was  
>> anywhere else
>> off-list that I could inform users of HLStasX.  Thankfully it's an  
>> easy fix.
>>
>> We have found a security hole, but to our knowledge it hasn't been  
>> exploited
>> yet at any of the servers that we have checked out.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Keeper
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Re: [hlds] timeleft/nextmap spam

[Chris Brunelle]

This plugin works with CSS, correct?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] timeleft/nextmap spam

Neph made a plugin just for that:
http://www.nephyrin.net/NephCVUH_1.0.zip

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Make them a cheat command
>
> Chris Brunelle wrote:
> > Folks, what are you using to stop the spamming of these commands in
> console?
> >
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Re: [hlds] HLStastX usage

[Keeper]

I'll make a post there when time comes.  I want to give Tobi a chance to fix
it himself first.

This problem is caused by a person in the server playing.  It's not a web
interface kind of problem.

Keeper

-Original Message-
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Yep, Great crew at www.lart2150.com
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[hlds] TF2 updates in "talker" folder causing game not to start?

[Sam - ClutchKill, LLC.]

I've been having a hard time getting my servers to show on the list so I
created a .bat (instead of the web cp I typically use) and it said my files
were outdated. I updated my game server and when I try to start it, I get an
error which points to the "talker" folder. I replaced the whole
orangebox\tf\scripts\talker folder with the old one before the update and
now it runs correctly. Anyone else notice this problem?
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