Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread Donnie Newlove
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mayicrashyoursourceserver

The members are hidden but can be found with some help from my little
friend if you're persistent enough.

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:steamcommunity.com+May+I+crash+your+Source+server%3F;

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Donnie Newlovedonnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cracking/hacking groups, same people that spam servers using A2C_PRINT.

 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csrinru
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dz-community
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warez-bb

 And some pirate groups but since these guys don't even own the game
 it's pretty much a total waste of time and if they do buy and end up
 already being banned... well, look at it as a bonus.

 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shadowofl4d
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/torrent_lt
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GHETTOKING

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Donnie Newlove
 donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackersunite
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gtpclan
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cshackerz
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EH
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MP-Hacks
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/darkcheats
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PureHackZ
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackorz


 On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Donnie Newlove
 donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Get-legit Cheating site
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gHzOwnzUNigga Appears to be
 associated with the group above
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nsgwp Nazi group with multiple
 members from the cheating group above

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Donnie Newlove
 donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove
 donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most
 active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything
 about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater,
 there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well
 and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan
 club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC
 banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no
 one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those
 groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the
 wrong ones.

 And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :)

 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
 Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a
 few of them though that I did not add:

 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
 Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an
 offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to
 me for them.
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
 Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see
 anything in particularly wrong with this group.

 Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that
 nature?


 On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote:
 Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would
 ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking
 around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite
 useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of
 known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to
 dream about people being this dumb).

 I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking
 admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones,
 groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many
 suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted
 cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S
 players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful
 links if you find any. Peace out.


 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7
 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE
 

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread DontWannaName!
How do they even do that... Theres no use to ban them from sourcebans
because their IPs can still DDOS.


On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mayicrashyoursourceserver

 The members are hidden but can be found with some help from my little
 friend if you're persistent enough.

 http://www.google.com/search?q=site:steamcommunity.com+
 May+I+crash+your+Source+server%3F

 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Donnie Newlovedonnie.newl...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Cracking/hacking groups, same people that spam servers using A2C_PRINT.
 
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csrinru
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dz-community
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warez-bb
 
  And some pirate groups but since these guys don't even own the game
  it's pretty much a total waste of time and if they do buy and end up
  already being banned... well, look at it as a bonus.
 
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shadowofl4d
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/torrent_lt
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GHETTOKING
 
  On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Donnie Newlove
  donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackersunite
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gtpclan
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cshackerz
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EH
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MP-Hacks
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/darkcheats
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PureHackZ
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackorz
 
 
  On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Donnie Newlove
  donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Get-legit Cheating site
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gHzOwnzUNigga Appears to be
  associated with the group above
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nsgwp Nazi group with multiple
  members from the cheating group above
 
  On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Donnie Newlove
  donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam
 
  On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove
  donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote:
  Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most
  active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything
  about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater,
  there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well
  and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan
  club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC
  banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no
  one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those
  groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the
  wrong ones.
 
  And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :)
 
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH
 
  On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com
 wrote:
  Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question
 on a
  few of them though that I did not add:
 
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa
  Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an
  offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling
 hacks to
  me for them.
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol
  Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see
  anything in particularly wrong with this group.
 
  Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of
 that
  nature?
 
 
  On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote:
  Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I
 would
  ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking
  around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite
  useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of
  known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to
  dream about people being this dumb).
 
  I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and
 checking
  admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active
 ones,
  groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many
  suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted
  cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S
  players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful
  links if you find any. Peace out.
 
 
  http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread ShoreCogs
Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? 
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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread Michael Krasnow
Drunken F00l made a plugin that stops ddos attacks

http://sourceop.net/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=9

it really works!

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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread Alec Sanger

because they can't be bothered to police Steam Groups. I would personally 
rather have them focus on other things, such as releasing Episode 3 and updates 
to games.

Thank you,
Alec Sanger
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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread DeadMonkey
If you're having problems with DDOS attacks then report them to their ISP

If you manage to get a hold of their IP that is.



Michael Krasnow wrote:
 Drunken F00l made a plugin that stops ddos attacks

 http://sourceop.net/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=9

 it really works!

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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread f0rkz
I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus  
they are not violating their TOS...

Just sayin...


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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread GardenGroveVW
That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will
take it down. 
We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our
servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down.
They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. 
So just report it to steam. 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus  
they are not violating their TOS...

Just sayin...


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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread AJ King

I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus  
they are not violating their TOS...
 
Just sayin... 

I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE CONTROL. ALSO 
THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED


Thanks,

Alex King





 From: hldsl...@taberprame.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
 
 That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will
 take it down. 
 We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our
 servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down.
 They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. 
 So just report it to steam. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
 
 I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus  
 they are not violating their TOS...
 
 Just sayin...
 
 
 On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist?
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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread Violent Crimes
Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server 
owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our 
servers.


AJ King wrote:
 I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus  
 they are not violating their TOS...
  
 Just sayin... 

 I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE CONTROL. 
 ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED


 Thanks,

 Alex King





   
 From: hldsl...@taberprame.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

 That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will
 take it down. 
 We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our
 servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down.
 They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. 
 So just report it to steam. 

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

 I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus  
 they are not violating their TOS...

 Just sayin...


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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread DontWannaName!
Dunken Fools DDOS program cant protect against all DDOS attacks.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Violent Crimes 
violentcri...@convictgaming.com wrote:

 Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server
 owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our
 servers.


 AJ King wrote:
  I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus
  they are not violating their TOS...
 
  Just sayin...
 
  I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE
 CONTROL. ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Alex King
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: hldsl...@taberprame.com
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
 
  That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will
  take it down.
  We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our
  servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down.
  They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups.
  So just report it to steam.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
  Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
 
  I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus
  they are not violating their TOS...
 
  Just sayin...
 
 
  On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
  Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist?
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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread Michael Krasnow
it helps tho atleast your server wont lagg plus it frotects against some
console commands that when spammed can lagg and even crash the server

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote:

 Dunken Fools DDOS program cant protect against all DDOS attacks.

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Violent Crimes 
 violentcri...@convictgaming.com wrote:

  Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server
  owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our
  servers.
 
 
  AJ King wrote:
   I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus
   they are not violating their TOS...
  
   Just sayin...
  
   I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE
  CONTROL. ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED
  
  
   Thanks,
  
   Alex King
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: hldsl...@taberprame.com
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
  
   That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they
 will
   take it down.
   We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash
 our
   servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down.
   They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups.
   So just report it to steam.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
   Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM
   To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
  
   I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus
   they are not violating their TOS...
  
   Just sayin...
  
  
   On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote:
  
  
   Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist?
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Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-07-19 Thread Tony Paloma
This is correct, but if you find a program or attack that gets past the
plugin, I'd be happy to add a block for it.

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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:12 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

Dunken Fools DDOS program cant protect against all DDOS attacks.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Violent Crimes 
violentcri...@convictgaming.com wrote:

 Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server
 owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our
 servers.


 AJ King wrote:
  I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus
  they are not violating their TOS...
 
  Just sayin...
 
  I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE
 CONTROL. ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Alex King
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: hldsl...@taberprame.com
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
 
  That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they
will
  take it down.
  We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash
our
  servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down.
  They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups.
  So just report it to steam.
 
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  Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM
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  Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
 
  I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group.  Plus
  they are not violating their TOS...
 
  Just sayin...
 
 
  On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
  Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist?
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[hlds] ClipRayToVPhysics crash and other related crash

2009-07-19 Thread Tony Paloma
Lately, I've been getting crashes in the ClipRayToVPhysics function and
other physics related functions. It's been occurring on more than one server
and seems to happen more often recently. The increasing frequency leads me
to believe that it could be some kind of exploit. I do not run SourceMod.
Here are some sample stack traces.

#0  0xf771310c in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToVPhysics ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#1  0xf77148f3 in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToCollideable ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#2  0xf7715005 in CEngineTrace::TraceRay ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#3  0xf5b67c04 in CTFSniperRifle::UpdateSniperDot ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#4  0xf5b6a8a2 in CTFSniperRifle::ItemPostFrame ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#5  0xf55735ce in CBasePlayer::ItemPostFrame ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf5af971c in CTFPlayer::ItemPostFrame ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#7  0xf57aeef8 in CBasePlayer::PostThink ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#8  0xf5ae1dba in CTFPlayer::PostThink ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#9  0xf57c6872 in CPlayerMove::RunPostThink ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#10 0xf57c83ba in CPlayerMove::RunCommand ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
...


#0  0xf5b7fe06 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::PositionArrowOnBone ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#1  0xf5b813e2 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#2  0xf5b80c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#3  0xf5511062 in CBaseEntity::Touch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#4  0xf574d8be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#5  0xf574f80f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf574fb7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#7  0xf574fbe4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#8  0xf574729e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#9  0xf575546e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsToss ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#10 0xf5755da2 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsSimulate ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#11 0xf5748b29 in Physics_SimulateEntity ()
...

This one doesn't make it to PositionArrowOnBone:
#0  0xf5b55901 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#1  0xf5b54c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#2  0xf54e5062 in CBaseEntity::Touch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#3  0xf57218be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#4  0xf572380f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#5  0xf5723b7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf5723be4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#7  0xf571b29e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#8  0xf572946e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsToss ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#9  0xf5729da2 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsSimulate ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#10 0xf571cb29 in Physics_SimulateEntity ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#11 0xf571d0a6 in Physics_RunThinkFunctions ()
...
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Re: [hlds] ClipRayToVPhysics crash and other related crash

2009-07-19 Thread Tony Paloma
And here's another crash trace probably related:
#0  0xf5c3785e in VectorTransform ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#1  0xf5c388bf in TransformAABB ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#2  0xf5ba1e1e in CTFProjectile_Arrow::PositionArrowOnBone ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#3  0xf5ba33e2 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#4  0xf5ba2c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#5  0xf5533062 in CBaseEntity::Touch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf576f8be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#7  0xf577180f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#8  0xf5771b7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#9  0xf5771be4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#10 0xf576929e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so

Maybe somehow some variables (origin, angles, etc.) are getting set to
invalid/NaN values which is messing with these functions?

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:33 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Cc: 'Eric Smith'
Subject: [hlds] ClipRayToVPhysics crash and other related crash

Lately, I've been getting crashes in the ClipRayToVPhysics function and
other physics related functions. It's been occurring on more than one server
and seems to happen more often recently. The increasing frequency leads me
to believe that it could be some kind of exploit. I do not run SourceMod.
Here are some sample stack traces.

#0  0xf771310c in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToVPhysics ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#1  0xf77148f3 in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToCollideable ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#2  0xf7715005 in CEngineTrace::TraceRay ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#3  0xf5b67c04 in CTFSniperRifle::UpdateSniperDot ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#4  0xf5b6a8a2 in CTFSniperRifle::ItemPostFrame ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#5  0xf55735ce in CBasePlayer::ItemPostFrame ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf5af971c in CTFPlayer::ItemPostFrame ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#7  0xf57aeef8 in CBasePlayer::PostThink ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#8  0xf5ae1dba in CTFPlayer::PostThink ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#9  0xf57c6872 in CPlayerMove::RunPostThink ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#10 0xf57c83ba in CPlayerMove::RunCommand ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
...


#0  0xf5b7fe06 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::PositionArrowOnBone ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#1  0xf5b813e2 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#2  0xf5b80c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#3  0xf5511062 in CBaseEntity::Touch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#4  0xf574d8be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#5  0xf574f80f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf574fb7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#7  0xf574fbe4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#8  0xf574729e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#9  0xf575546e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsToss ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#10 0xf5755da2 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsSimulate ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#11 0xf5748b29 in Physics_SimulateEntity ()
...

This one doesn't make it to PositionArrowOnBone:
#0  0xf5b55901 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#1  0xf5b54c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#2  0xf54e5062 in CBaseEntity::Touch ()
   from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#3  0xf57218be in