Re: [hlds] Problem with updating after last night

[Don Williams]

This is for the hldsupdatetool not the actual game server.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:58 AM, "Ronny Schedel"  wrote:

> Remove any plugins.
> 
>> I keep getting an application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in
>> an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more
>> information.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I've tried deleting the blob files got a new copy of the update tool and
>> none of these are working.
>> 
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[hlds] Problem with updating after last night

[Don Williams]

I keep getting an application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in
an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more
information.

 

I've tried deleting the blob files got a new copy of the update tool and
none of these are working.

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Re: [hlds] thread

[Don Williams]

Funny stuff!! Thanks for the late afternoon lawlz

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On Oct 26, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Bence Nagy  wrote:

> Yeah, he tried to unsub me too. I guess we should end this thread, let's
> don't waste anyone's time more. On this occasion, I would like to reply to
> Tim one last time, to that
> Facebook-profile-exposure-after-18-minutes-of-silence: as the TF2 scout
> would say .
> 
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 22:15, teenPSPjunkie wrote:
> 
>> lol
>> 
>> This dude tried to unsubscribe me from the list with my email.
>> 
>> Sent from my freaken iPhone 4
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Tim Free  wrote:
>> 
>>> What are you like 8 years old? You need to get off the computer now its
>>> time to
>>> change your diaper!
>>> 
>>> http://www.facebook.com/Underyx
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for letting me do that. Also, please fix your Facebook
>>> profile,
>>> it states 'male' as your gender.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 21:46, Tim Free  wrote:
>>> 
 You can blow me to house nigger!
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds] thread

[Don Williams]

I think bitch is his true gender!

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Bence Nagy  wrote:

> Thanks for letting me do that. Also, please fix your Facebook
> profile,
> it states 'male' as your gender.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 21:46, Tim Free  wrote:
> 
>> You can blow me to house nigger!
>> 
>> 
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

I agree totally!!

danto12  wrote:

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Re: [hlds] Server info app for Android

[Don Williams]

Put me down I'm interested.

"David A. Parker"  wrote:

>Hello Everyone,
>
>I am just finishing up work on an Android app to query HLDS/SRCDS 
>servers and display their information, and I was wondering if there is 
>anyone out there who owns an Android phone and would be interested in 
>testing the app.  I only have a Droid to test it on, but I would love to 
>know if it works well on other devices.
>
>The app uses A2S_INFO, A2A_PING, and A2S_PLAYER queries to get 
>information about each server you have added to its list.  Right now, 
>this is just a proof-of-concept version and it does not do anything 
>fancy, like refreshing the server list in the background or notifying 
>you if one is down.  It also cannot be used to control a server remotely 
>(RCON, NETCON, etc.) at this time.  Those are things that I hope to add 
>later if I have the time.
>
>If you own an Android device and you are interested in trying my app, 
>please e-mail me (either on or off list) and I'll get the app to you. 
>Also, if anyone has any ideas for what it should be called, I'm open to 
>suggestions.  Right now it doesn't have a name.  :-)
>
>If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>-- 
>
>Dave Parker
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>Utica College
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>(315) 792-3229
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

So you're one of those asshats that get a kick out of messing up other peoples 
servers..

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:46 AM, Drogen Viech  wrote:

> Aww, no more sentry rage :( Well, it was fun as long as it lasted,
> valve should make events like this on purpose :D
> 
> 2010/10/19 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com>:
>> Server list is still showing old servers as of this email. Getting
>> complaints of "The server you are trying to connect to is running
>> an older version of the game." because both updated and not servers are
>> showing up.
>> 
>> Been a bit slow updating the master server version lately? :/
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jason Ruymen 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
>>> changes include:
>>> 
>>> - Fixed a sentry gun exploit that let Engineers build multiple sentries.
>>> - Fixed Engineers being able to build level 3 mini-sentries using The
>>> Wrangler.
>>> - Fixed the Holy Mackerel hit triggering the first blood event in Arena
>>> mode.
>>> - Fixed seeing error particle systems in old demos.
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

You guys always decide to do updates on Friday night.. DAMNIT!!

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 7:24 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'Half-Life dedicated
Win32 server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
changes include:

- Fixed an exploit that allowed people to bypass the Gloves of Rushing
Urgently's damage taking penalty.
- Made the following items nameable: Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask,
Ghastly Gibus, Soldier's Medal, Honest Halo, Golden Wrench, Mann Co. Cap,
Polycount Pin.
- Fixed a case where some clients where timing out while accessing the
store.

Jason


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Re: [hlds] 32 Player TF2 Hardware

[Don Williams]

I run a Q6600 with 2gb ram and server 2003 500fps with no issues with 96
slots.
Also got a 8 slot NS2 server running on it as well..  Not even Xeon class
processor :-( 
If I had the money I'd build one like I did the other day dual xeon quads
with 6 o ram and 15k RAM SAS drives.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HL-SDK Synths
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:06 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Player TF2 Hardware

mrsleeper, I'd like to hear his explanation. I have similar feelings. If
people want to modify operating systems and do whatever, they are welcome to
and I think it is pretty cool.

It is even more unnessecary than network rate restrictions. Forcing clients
to a 100hz update rate when their ping jitter is nearly 50ms on a
second-rate DSL connection and they may be playing at 30fps is incredibly
stupid. That is another discussion for another time. It seems as if these
Xeon systems are definitely up to the task.

(can't wait for new NS >;D)

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:17 PM, msleeper
wrote:

> I'll let Nephyrin re-explain it, but yesterday in IRC he gave a very 
> great explaination of why 1000 FPS is bullshit and just a waste of 
> cycles.
>
> I appreciate everyone's input so far, except for Justin who seemed to 
> entirely miss what I was asking for, but I hear that nosteam kills 
> brain cells so I'm not surprised.
>
>
> On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 16:10 -0500, Jeremy D. Pavleck wrote:
> > Actually, I'd be interested in this as well - especially if you can
> maintain
> > 1000 server fps at all times. Seems like I haven't found a provider 
> > yet
> that
> > can do 1000fps solid beyond 12 players (I'm using AI atm). May just 
> > roll
> my
> > own server and do it that way.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:03 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: [hlds] 32 Player TF2 Hardware
> >
> > Curious what hardware other 32 player serverops are running. We've 
> > had growing problems with CPU on our system and it has only gotten 
> > worse since the Engineer update, so looking to others with 32 player 
> > servers and what you guys are running.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

[Don Williams]

I did the same thing but it would not start for me, just opens then closes.

Don Williams
Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
d...@precdata.com

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:01 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

Just copied the ns2 server files to my machine and it started just fine.
Although they seem to be having authentication server problems, For me
atleast. (swamped?)

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:52 PM, msleeper
wrote:

> Not surprised, it is an -alpha- after all. Things will get worked out 
> in the coming hours/days/weeks.
>
>
> On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 21:48 -0400, Don Williams wrote:
> > We got that much. I can run it on my local  machine no problem, I 
> > put it
> on
> > the server launch boom fails.
> >
> > Don Williams
> > Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> > d...@precdata.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:39 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
> >
> > The server stores its settings in the file: %APPDATA%/Natural 
> > Selection 2/server.xml
> >
> > If the file does not exist, it will create a default copy the first 
> > time
> it
> > is run.
> >
> > The server options can be changed in the file manually, or they can 
> > be specified individually on the command line (those changes will be 
> > saved
> by
> > default.)
> >
> > Optional command line settings are:
> >
> >   -file [path] (allows you to specify a different configuration file 
> > for server settings)
> >   -name [name] (specifies the server name to be shown in the server
> browser)
> >   -map [name] (specifies the map to load)
> >   -ip [address]
> >   -port [number] (default is 27015)
> >   -limit [number]
> >   -lan [1 or 0, or true/false] (specifies how/if this map shows up 
> > in the master server list - default is false)
> >   -password [optional]
> >   -save [1 or 0, or true/false] - (specifies whether to save out 
> > command line overrides - default is true)
> >
> > Examples:
> >
> >   Server.exe -map ns2_tram -limit 32 -lan false
> >   Server.exe -file "c:\my servers\config.xml" -map ns2_rockdown -lan 
> > true -save false
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:37 PM, msleeper
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah you have to have the key for the Special Edition/Alpha to work.
> > > It says that on their site.
> > >
> > > Speaking of their site, there is now a link to some server.exe, 
> > > but still no mention of how exactly to run it as dedicated.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 18:34 -0700, John Q wrote:
> > > > I havn't gotten my key but steam appears to have downloaded 
> > > > 1.8GB automatically. Now whenever i try to start the game it 
> > > > just says i dont
> > > have
> > > > the special edition key entered in yet.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Don Williams 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That just shows usage of the server.exe don't show how to 
> > > > > install on an actual server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don Williams
> > > > > Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> > > > > d...@precdata.com
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John 
> > > > > Q
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:24 PM
> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
> > > > >
> > > > > "NS2 dedicated server: http://bit.ly/b4Miff (at end). See 
> > > > > Dedicated_Server_Usage.txt in your steamapps\common\natural 
> > > > > selection 2 directory." A message on twitter.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Don Williams 
> > > > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I see a server up and running with people in it.
&g

Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

[Don Williams]

We got that much. I can run it on my local  machine no problem, I put it on
the server launch boom fails.

Don Williams
Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
d...@precdata.com

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:39 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

The server stores its settings in the file: %APPDATA%/Natural Selection
2/server.xml

If the file does not exist, it will create a default copy the first time it
is run.

The server options can be changed in the file manually, or they can be
specified individually on the command line (those changes will be saved by
default.)

Optional command line settings are:

  -file [path] (allows you to specify a different configuration file for
server settings)
  -name [name] (specifies the server name to be shown in the server browser)
  -map [name] (specifies the map to load)
  -ip [address]
  -port [number] (default is 27015)
  -limit [number]
  -lan [1 or 0, or true/false] (specifies how/if this map shows up in the
master server list - default is false)
  -password [optional]
  -save [1 or 0, or true/false] - (specifies whether to save out command
line overrides - default is true)

Examples:

  Server.exe -map ns2_tram -limit 32 -lan false
  Server.exe -file "c:\my servers\config.xml" -map ns2_rockdown -lan true
-save false



On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:37 PM, msleeper
wrote:

> Yeah you have to have the key for the Special Edition/Alpha to work. 
> It says that on their site.
>
> Speaking of their site, there is now a link to some server.exe, but 
> still no mention of how exactly to run it as dedicated.
>
>
> On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 18:34 -0700, John Q wrote:
> > I havn't gotten my key but steam appears to have downloaded 1.8GB 
> > automatically. Now whenever i try to start the game it just says i 
> > dont
> have
> > the special edition key entered in yet.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Don Williams  wrote:
> >
> > > That just shows usage of the server.exe don't show how to install 
> > > on an actual server.
> > >
> > > Don Williams
> > > Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> > > d...@precdata.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
> > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:24 PM
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
> > >
> > > "NS2 dedicated server: http://bit.ly/b4Miff (at end). See 
> > > Dedicated_Server_Usage.txt in your steamapps\common\natural 
> > > selection 2 directory." A message on twitter.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Don Williams 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I see a server up and running with people in it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don Williams
> > > > Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> > > > d...@precdata.com
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:19 PM
> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
> > > >
> > > > Keys are going out now, We'll see soon enough
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Don Williams 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Time's up.. Any news?
> > > > >
> > > > > Don Williams
> > > > > Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> > > > > d...@precdata.com
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > > > bl4nk
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:05 PM
> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
> > > > >
> > > > > They've already said that they won't be releasing the server 
> > > > > files
> > > early.
> > > > > Just wait another hour and they should be released when the 
> > > > > keys
> are
> &

Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

[Don Williams]

That just shows usage of the server.exe don't show how to install on an
actual server.

Don Williams
Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
d...@precdata.com

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:24 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

"NS2 dedicated server: http://bit.ly/b4Miff (at end). See
Dedicated_Server_Usage.txt in your steamapps\common\natural selection 2
directory." A message on twitter.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Don Williams  wrote:

> I see a server up and running with people in it.
>
>
> Don Williams
> Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> d...@precdata.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:19 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
>
> Keys are going out now, We'll see soon enough
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Don Williams  wrote:
>
> > Time's up.. Any news?
> >
> > Don Williams
> > Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> > d...@precdata.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of bl4nk
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:05 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
> >
> > They've already said that they won't be releasing the server files
early.
> > Just wait another hour and they should be released when the keys are 
> > sent out.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Phillip Vector
> > wrote:
> >
> > > or stuck in a honey pot.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, msleeper 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Not sure what your "nope" is in response to, because NS2 and the 
> > > > NS2 Alpha are both being distributed through Steam. UWE has made 
> > > > mention of having Windows Dedicated Server being available, so 
> > > > my only assumption is that it will be also available through Steam.
> > > >
> > > > But there hasn't been anything official about it yet. It's like 
> > > > a 4 man operation over there so I'm sure they're a little swamped.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 19:43 -0400, Michael Krasnow wrote:
> > > >> nope,
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Don Williams 
> > > >> 
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Have any of you guys heard how they are going to distribute 
> > > >> > the server files?  Steam update, etc?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Don Williams
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Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

[Don Williams]

I see a server up and running with people in it.


Don Williams
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-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Q
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:19 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

Keys are going out now, We'll see soon enough

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Don Williams  wrote:

> Time's up.. Any news?
>
> Don Williams
> Precision Data Solutions, Inc.
> d...@precdata.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of bl4nk
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:05 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight
>
> They've already said that they won't be releasing the server files early.
> Just wait another hour and they should be released when the keys are sent
> out.
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Phillip Vector
> wrote:
>
> > or stuck in a honey pot.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, msleeper
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > Not sure what your "nope" is in response to, because NS2 and the NS2
> > > Alpha are both being distributed through Steam. UWE has made mention
> > > of having Windows Dedicated Server being available, so my only
> > > assumption is that it will be also available through Steam.
> > >
> > > But there hasn't been anything official about it yet. It's like a 4
> > > man operation over there so I'm sure they're a little swamped.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 19:43 -0400, Michael Krasnow wrote:
> > >> nope,
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Don Williams 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Have any of you guys heard how they are going to distribute the
> > >> > server files?  Steam update, etc?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

[Don Williams]

Time's up.. Any news?

Don Williams
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of bl4nk
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:05 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

They've already said that they won't be releasing the server files early.
Just wait another hour and they should be released when the keys are sent
out.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Phillip Vector
wrote:

> or stuck in a honey pot.
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, msleeper 
> 
> wrote:
> > Not sure what your "nope" is in response to, because NS2 and the NS2 
> > Alpha are both being distributed through Steam. UWE has made mention 
> > of having Windows Dedicated Server being available, so my only 
> > assumption is that it will be also available through Steam.
> >
> > But there hasn't been anything official about it yet. It's like a 4 
> > man operation over there so I'm sure they're a little swamped.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 19:43 -0400, Michael Krasnow wrote:
> >> nope,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Don Williams  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Have any of you guys heard how they are going to distribute the 
> >> > server files?  Steam update, etc?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Don Williams
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Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

[Don Williams]

Same here. I've read the doc files in the folder specifying usage etc but no
server.exe file.

Don Williams
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Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

I've sent emails and haven't heard a word. I'm very interested though.

Thanks,
Andy
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Sent: Jul 26, 2010 6:39 PM

Have any of you guys heard how they are going to distribute the server
files?  Steam update, etc?

 

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[hlds] NS2 Alpha Release Tonight

[Don Williams]

Have any of you guys heard how they are going to distribute the server
files?  Steam update, etc?

 

Don Williams

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Re: [hlds] Server lag, one server on one box

[Don Williams]

Must be a memory leak.  Can you link me to the fps boost plugin? Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Steven Polley  wrote:

> So I noticed a few of you people were experiencing server lag.  Welll, so am
> I.  I have a 1gbps up/down net speed, with a dual e5620 setup, and I decided
> to run one, yes one TF2 server on a fresh install of Windows Server 08.
> 
> Yes, I am getting lag.  I am using the FPS boost pluging, running a 2000 max
> FPS server, which averages at close to 1,700 FPS.
> 
> I set my rates to be
> 
> sv_maxcmdrate 0
> sv_maxrate 0
> sv_maxreplay 2
> sv_maxupdaterate 100
> sv_mincmdrate 0
> sv_minrate 0
> sv_minupdaterate 30
> 
> 
> Basically, with unlimited computing resources allowed... what are the best
> rates?
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Re: [hlds] Test

[Don Williams]

FFF UUU

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of mike fanoni
Sent: 2010-07-15 3:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Test

FUCK YOU

On Jul 15, 2010 12:39 PM, "Dominic Marciano" 
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

[Don Williams]

Lawl.



On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:52 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why don't you?
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Dominic Marciano
> wrote:
>
>>
>> STOP SPAMMING.
>> honestly you people.
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:03:37 -0700
>>> From: mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com
>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
>>>
>>> You'd be so lucky to get a reply...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Jonah Hirsch 
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>; Half-Life dedicated Linux server  
>> mailing
>> list 
>>> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:57:27 PM
>>> Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
>>>
>>> -Changed Survivorbot item hunting behavior
>>> -SurvivorBots now stay closer to human players in all game modes
>>> -Fixed Survivorbot navigation issue in The Passing: Riverbank
>>> -Fixed bug where a SurvivorBot could become catatonic when  
>>> attempting to
>>> save another Survivor from a Smoker
>>> -Fixed condition where SurvivorBots would not enter the saferoom
>>> -Increased self-inflicted friendly fire damage from the Grenade  
>>> Launcher
>>> -Fixed bug where the M60 would reset its ammo if dropped in certain
>>> situations
>>> -Car Alarms will now trigger anytime a Special Infected pushes/ 
>>> pulls/rams
>> a
>>> Survivor into an alarm car. This change only affects game modes with
>>> human-controlled Zombies
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: This one isn't even a mutation update, and there wasn't an  
>>> official
>>> email...did Jason just stop sending L4D2 emails? :P
>>> Jonah Hirsch
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Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition

[Don Williams]

INBFTLOL

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano
Sent: 2010-06-04 11:23 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition


stop spamming.

> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:38:19 -0400
> From: matthew.j.andro...@lmco.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition
> 
> This has been a unusually quiet mailing list. I can almost hear the
echo
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn .
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:41 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition
> 
> Nice!
> 
> Offtopic: Any news on the Cvars/STV/sv_master_legacy_mode problem under
> Linux?
> 
> 2010/5/28 Zoid Kirsch 
> 
> > We have added an additional HL2 Master server at address
> > 72.165.61.153:27015.
> >
> > I've seen a few scripts posted here using the "setmaster" dedicated
server
> > console command.  Generally, you do not need to manually specify the
master
> > addresses.  Additional setmaster commands with other addresses in your
> > server.cfg will just have your dedicated server trying send updates to
> > non-existent masters.  Servers that restart will automatically detect
this
> > new master server and use it appropriately.  There are only three
currently
> > active HL2 Master servers:
> >
> > 216.207.205.99:27011
> > 216.207.205.98:27011
> > 72.165.61.153:27015
> >
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Re: [hlds] team fortress 2 updates heads-up

[Don Williams]

I would love to have such a tool.

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mannion
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:14 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] team fortress 2 updates heads-up

Is there interest in an iPhone server query/RCON tool? I've written an
app for myself but can try to push it through the app store (for free)
after some polishing...

Ryan

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mike O'Laughlen 
wrote:
> There's an app for that.
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Noel  wrote:
>
>> If you have an Android device, enter the market and search for "Source
>> Server Manager"  -  it's a free application by a Mr. Matthew Livingstone
>> that gives you the ability to remotely issue commands to Source servers.
>>
>> Between using email apps to watch for the update emails Jason sends to
this
>> list and using the Source Manager app to send commands remotely, you
never
>> have to worry about being near a computer in case of updates.
>>
>> (Of course, depending on where your server is hosted, you can also just
use
>> a smart device browser to access web management tools.  I know the
Android
>> 2.1 browser allows me full access to the NFO control panel, for example.)
>>
>> -brambles
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>>  1. Re: Team Fortress 2 Update Available (Don Williams)
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>>  3. Re: Team Fortress 2 Update Available (Don Williams)
>>  4. Re: Team Fortress 2 Update Available (Allan Button)
>>  5. Re: Team Fortress 2 Update Available (Don Williams)
>>  6. Re: Team Fortress 2 Update Available (ENF)
>>  7. Re: (no subject) (jimbomcb)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 22:52:15 -0400
>> From: "Don Williams" 
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>> To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'"
>>       
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>> How would you actually prepare?  Update comes do it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kurfis
>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:03 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>
>> What happened to the heads-up e-mails we used to get that gave us some
time
>> to prepare for an upcoming update? Kinda miss those.
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:44 PM, ENF 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks All, I'll run the -verify_all and see what happens. Everything
was
>> > fine before this update. (I did run the update twice, but I didn't
think
>> it
>> > woudl have a caused a problem...)
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>> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 23:12:25 -0400
>> From: Michael Krasnow 
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>       
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>> i  would make my tin foil hat, duh
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Don Wi

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

I see what you saying.  Most of the time the updates come while I'm out on a
Friday night or in the middle of the fringe season finale. ;)  I'm sorry
sometimes people can just wait ;P

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Allan Button
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:32 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Make sure you are near a computer in the expect timeframe? Most of these
updates come in when I am out and about, and nothing gets updated until I
get back.

Allan

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To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

How would you actually prepare?  Update comes do it. 

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kurfis
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

What happened to the heads-up e-mails we used to get that gave us some time
to prepare for an upcoming update? Kinda miss those.

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:44 PM, ENF  wrote:

> Thanks All, I'll run the -verify_all and see what happens. Everything 
> was fine before this update. (I did run the update twice, but I didn't 
> think
it
> woudl have a caused a problem...)
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Nice, I should do that ;)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:12 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

i  would make my tin foil hat, duh

;)

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Don Williams  wrote:

> How would you actually prepare?  Update comes do it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kurfis
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:03 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>
> What happened to the heads-up e-mails we used to get that gave us some
time
> to prepare for an upcoming update? Kinda miss those.
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:44 PM, ENF 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks All, I'll run the -verify_all and see what happens. Everything
was
> > fine before this update. (I did run the update twice, but I didn't think
> it
> > woudl have a caused a problem...)
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

How would you actually prepare?  Update comes do it. 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kurfis
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

What happened to the heads-up e-mails we used to get that gave us some time
to prepare for an upcoming update? Kinda miss those.

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:44 PM, ENF  wrote:

> Thanks All, I'll run the -verify_all and see what happens. Everything was
> fine before this update. (I did run the update twice, but I didn't think
it
> woudl have a caused a problem...)
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

I'm also running good 2k3 latest mm & sm



On May 20, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Robert Whelan  wrote:

> Running win2k3 here just fine with latest sm/mms... try -verify_all
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: ENF 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
>  >
> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 8:26:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>
> After this update, vanilla & modded servers on Win2k3 crashing on  
> startup.
>
> Sample dump files here from one server: (SM/MM Disabled)
>
> http://www.planetether.net/ob/
>
> Anyone else?
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

Chea!

Sent from uranus.



On May 17, 2010, at 9:18 PM, f...@tabularaza.de wrote:

> hai guise, looks like fun in hea
>
> Sent from my toilet
>
> On Tue, 18 May 2010 03:07:17 +0200, Don Williams   
> wrote:
>
>> So hostile.. Someone needs a beer and a xanax.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 17, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Allan Button   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile.
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2010, at 6:05 PM, "John Du Hart" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
> 
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

So hostile.. Someone needs a beer and a xanax.



On May 17, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Allan Button  wrote:

> Nope
>
> Sent from my mobile.
>
> On May 17, 2010, at 6:05 PM, "John Du Hart" 
> wrote:
>
>> You idiot can't just not fucking reply, can you.
>>
>> On May 17, 2010 4:51 PM, "Rikard Bremark"
>>  wrote:
>>
>> plz, and you think hes the one spaming?
>> its a bot, old hotmail address or something, the whole mail-list
>> should
>> be pruned.
>> --
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>> On 2010-05-17 22:39, myself last name goes here wrote:
>>> you there, shut it up with your ads
>>> this...
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

This is true.. 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HL-SDK Synths
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

He may be proposing a partnership between the HLDS team and some
pharmaceutical companies.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Allan Button  wrote:

> Atleast it breaks up the arguments about downloading CSS_Beta
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:39 PM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
>
> I wish we could remove people off the list that spam there virus ridden
> computers.
>
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

I wish we could remove people off the list that spam there virus ridden
computers.

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Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA

[Don Williams]

Yeah, I was away from the office today on the road and couldn't get to a
machine, didn't know they had a time frame to get the beta ;P  It's all good
I'll throw a server up see how it does.

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA

Well, those that work away from a computer, or somewhere where steampowered
is blocked.
Jonah Hirsch
---


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Don Williams  wrote:

> Or all the people that actually work get screwed too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:02 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
>
> So since the beta is now closed, all the 12 year olds who were at school
> will be pissed :D.
>
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Saul Rennison
> wrote:
>
> > Hype?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Saul.
> >
> >
> > On 11 May 2010 22:52, Munra  wrote:
> >
> > > I agree If you are going to do a limited beta wtf would you make a
huge
> > > announcement?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Roman
> Hatsiev
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:11 PM
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > Cc: hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com;
> > > hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
> > >
> > > And now it says "Thanks for your interest. We've filled the available
> > > slots."
> > > What is the point of releasing beta which is available only for a
> couple
> > > hours?
> > > I'm still downloading a server but it is useless now since there are
> > quite
> > > a
> > > few players in our community who managed to grab the client - it is
> late
> > > night here...
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Eric Smith  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE UPDATE NOW IN BETA
> > > >
> > > > Available immediately, Valve has launched an extensive update to
> > > > Counter-Strike: Source, now in beta.
> > > >
> > > > The update includes a host of new features and functionality
> developed
> > > > in collaboration with Hidden Path Studios. These include 144 new
> > > > achievements, a new domination and revenge system, player stats, and
> > > more.
> > > >
> > > > This beta will run for a limited time, and once complete, the update
> > > > will be deployed to all Counter-Strike: Source owners for free via
> > Steam.
> > > >
> > > > The dedicated server files are available via the HLDSUpdateTool
using
> > > > "-game cssbeta" in the command line.
> > > >
> > > > For more information, please visit www.steamgames.com<
> > > > http://www.steamgames.com>.
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Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA

[Don Williams]

Or all the people that actually work get screwed too.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA

So since the beta is now closed, all the 12 year olds who were at school
will be pissed :D.


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Saul Rennison
wrote:

> Hype?
>
> Thanks,
> - Saul.
>
>
> On 11 May 2010 22:52, Munra  wrote:
>
> > I agree If you are going to do a limited beta wtf would you make a huge
> > announcement?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Roman Hatsiev
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:11 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Cc: hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com;
> > hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
> >
> > And now it says "Thanks for your interest. We've filled the available
> > slots."
> > What is the point of releasing beta which is available only for a couple
> > hours?
> > I'm still downloading a server but it is useless now since there are
> quite
> > a
> > few players in our community who managed to grab the client - it is late
> > night here...
> >
> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Eric Smith  > >wrote:
> >
> > > COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE UPDATE NOW IN BETA
> > >
> > > Available immediately, Valve has launched an extensive update to
> > > Counter-Strike: Source, now in beta.
> > >
> > > The update includes a host of new features and functionality developed
> > > in collaboration with Hidden Path Studios. These include 144 new
> > > achievements, a new domination and revenge system, player stats, and
> > more.
> > >
> > > This beta will run for a limited time, and once complete, the update
> > > will be deployed to all Counter-Strike: Source owners for free via
> Steam.
> > >
> > > The dedicated server files are available via the HLDSUpdateTool using
> > > "-game cssbeta" in the command line.
> > >
> > > For more information, please visit www.steamgames.com<
> > > http://www.steamgames.com>.
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Re: [hlds] Please

[Don Williams]

I second that idea.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2010, at 4:36 PM, John Barrett  wrote:

> One of the Unreal mailing lists years ago was made invite-only to keep
> the amount of useless/troll posts down.
> It might be a good idea to lock the current list of subscribers,  
> keeping
> to invite only, and remove the subscription of anyone spamming/ 
> trolling
> etc..
>
> ~ John
>
> On 05/05/2010 17:57, Saint K. wrote:
>> VALVe suggested to close this mailing list a while back. I've been  
>> on this list many many years, and it always has been a great  
>> resource. Lately it just became another trashplace for the same  
>> scum I ban on my servers for behaving like under aged kids. For  
>> over 8 years we managed to keep this list clean of trashtalk and  
>> childish behavior. From what it looks like this list cannot be  
>> cleaned out anymore. Remove the trolls and they'll just return with  
>> different accounts. I know I could resign from this list and be  
>> done with it, but I won't, because I won't have a decent  
>> alternative. Perhaps by closing this list and moving this to the  
>> official forums we can have some more moderation and cleaner,  
>> useful topics for people to help one and other.
>>
>> You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
>>
>> Saint K.
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Re: [hlds] L4D2 Update?

[Don Williams]

WE all do this.


Sent from my Tandy

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Joshua
'Dislexsick' Bost
Sent: 2010-02-24 4:51 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D2 Update?

Nou

Look mah-I can make posts with no value at all too!

Sent from my iPhone

On 25/02/2010, at 7:32 AM, Mark P  wrote:

> shut up
>
> 2010/2/24 -xL-Trinidad 
>
>> LOL, I was fast.
>>  - Original Message -
>> From: -xL-Trinidad
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:11 PM
>> Subject: [hlds] L4D2 Update?
>>
>>
>> My L4D2 Server just wanted to be updated. Has there been an update
>> released?
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Re: [hlds] Bladecenter anything worth?

[Don Williams]

Intel also offers a great blade solution as well with failover support.

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Charles Mabbott
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:33 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Bladecenter anything worth?

If you want to go the SAN route with automatic failover of the Cluster, ESXi
is not the solution, you would need to go with the VSphere solution to get
all the bells and whistles you would need. What you basically asking for is
the feature set of a High Availability Datacenter solution that ESXi was
simply not put out there to fill.

As far as cost point, you need the enclosure and out 4 blades to make it
cost effective over a series of 1U servers, as a warning when you're putting
the funds together for the hardware. I don't know any recent research into
the cost comparisons I am going of data from about 3 years ago.

HP has a very good blade solution (C-class) if I remember.

As a side not, I have tested SRCDS inside a VM under VSphere, didn't have
lag issues, but again, this was a controlled environment where I can test
the VPS when it had the CPU/memory resources it actually required to support
the solution. Mileage may actually vary.



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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Christoffer
Pedersen
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:08 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Bladecenter anything worth?

Hi.

Thanks for the reply, i could really use that. I will do some more research
for this, and if its affordable, ill go for it. If not, i will keep with my
1U/2U rackservers. At my primary work, we do have a big IBM bladecenter, i
may ask my boss about the power consumption

Thanks again.

- Christoffer

On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Matt Stanton wrote:

> Obviously, virtualization does cause you to lose a small amount of 
> hardware power to the extra operating system overhead of vistualizing 
> many machines on one physical server.  What you can gain in reliability 
> may make it worth it, though.
> 
> Basically, you could guarantee that any 'dedicated server' is available 
> much more reliably.  If you connect your bladecenter to a SAN of some 
> sort, and are able to intelligently distribute VMs over the blades, then 
> if a piece of physical hardware goes down, the VM can be automatically 
> booted on hardware that is running properly, with very little data loss 
> because of I/O that was interrupted by the hardware issue.  Since all 
> the data from all the servers is stored on the SAN, the data is somewhat 
> shielded from hardware failure.
> 
> There are a few virtual machine platforms that will allow you to 
> accomplish this, including, I believe, VMWare ESXi (I think they changed 
> the name of this recently) or Xen...  You'll have to do your own 
> research into these if no one else replies, since I have absolutely no 
> experience with virtualization.  You will also probably have to expect 
> that you will be spending a huge amount of money building a SAN that is 
> both fast and reliable.  If you run the datacenter that the servers are 
> hosted from, then you could also expect better cooling and power usage 
> efficiency by going this direction, and if not, you will at least be 
> using less rack space.  A bladecenter will require a lot more power per 
> rack than a rack full of 1U/2U servers, so you may have to pay extra per 
> rack for the extra amperage you'll need.
> 
> On 2/22/2010 1:29 AM, Christoffer Pedersen wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> Im looking to build up a new farm of servers for my company. We are
>> currently using 1U and 2U servers for our hosting, but i have been
>> thinking of, if it was better to build the whole stuff in
>> bladecenters, and virtualize. I just want to know if this is any good?
>> I have never tried to host srcds on virtual machines, so i would be
>> happy if you could help me here :)
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Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell

[Don Williams]

I blame Hitler.  Everyone has a stick up there ass.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Allan Button
Sent: 2010-02-16 3:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell

How about instead or saying go to the IRC, you post the information for it.
Atleast you post would contain value, instead of the fluff that spammed my
inbox for the past 24 hours.

Allan

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Vince Batchelor
Sent: February-16-10 2:54 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell

This problem was inherited from previous administrations.  We really should
be blaming Taft.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:51 AM, f0rkz  wrote:
> I blame Obama and Bush.
>
> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 19:24 +, Saul Rennison wrote:
>> Blame msleeper! *ninja eyes*
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Saul.
>>
>>
>> On 16 February 2010 18:35, Ook  wrote:
>>
>> > I know this will make some of you as happy as can be
>> >
>> > This list has unfortunately ceased to serve the valuable service 
>> > that it once did. All the whine whine last night about a simple 
>> > question related to a server and its community did bring in a few 
>> > helpful responses, but mostly whine whine wtf omg whine whine. So, 
>> > after nine years on this list, the time has come for me to leave. 
>> > Good bye to the few helpful people left here, it's been a real blast.
The rest of you can go to hell.
>> >
>> > I leave the thwack stick in the hands of whoever wants it. It 
>> > doesn't seem to work well anymore, but it might still have some 
>> > entertainment value.
>> >
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Re: [hlds] [OT] Website builder for your server websites

[Don Williams]

Man this is great.. I love this list!

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Peter Jerde
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:23 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] Website builder for your server websites

Gosh I wish this list were moderated.

Seriously, guys. Cut it out please.

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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

SPAM IS WIN!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Peter Powell
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 7:12 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

http://localhostr.com/files/4e04b4/hlds-spam-thread.png

I do kind of agree this thread is going a bit too much off topic though. 
However, if you dont like it then just block it.

~Peter Powell

nate~ wrote:
> Members of this mailing list:
>  I'm all for having fun, joking around, and the like.  In fact,
> sometimes I tend to do this at the expense of my work ethic, which
> occasionally gets my superiors a bit miffed.  Because of this, I've
learned
> the hard way when playing around is and is not appropriate.  One of those
> times is when you're vexing others.
>
>  While I don't blame you for having a bit of fun, it can be annoying
to
> members of this mailing list who don't wish to partake in these jests.
>  Whenever you reply, EVERY server owner on this list gets the message, and
> when more and more people respond, server administrators who may or may
not
> find it amusing end up with an inbox constantly full of emails not really
> about server administrating.
>
>  I don't want to kill your fun, but it might be nice if out of
courtesy
> you could keep these sorts of discussions somewhere else (Among friends,
on
> a forum, in an email not addressed to hlds@list.valvesoftware.com).  That
> way, you can still have amusing conversations without badgering the more
> serious members of this list, who would rather hear only things directly
> pertinent to running/upkeeping servers.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> -Nate
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

This.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:23 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)


smashed.

> From: abut...@netaccess.ca
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:21:42 -0500
> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
> NO U
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:14 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
> Stop feeind useless shit into these lists. This benefits no one. Don't you
people have anything better to do? I know, you don't but still keep the
discussion constructive and civil. Thanks.
> 
> -ics
> 
> 6.2.2010 18:52, Dominic Marciano kirjoitti:
> > I think your right, i retract my previous statement.
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:50:48 -0800
> >> From: tgnwe...@gmail.com
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> >>
> >> no i feel as though we all need to sit down and discuss this some 
> >> more
> >>
> >> Dominic Marciano wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Moving on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:07:34 +0800
>  From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
>  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>  Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)
> 
>  Saxton Hale's first attempt at using email. From an iPhone of all 
>  things. I'm impressed.
> 
>  On 6/02/2010 9:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
>   
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

[Don Williams]

I see 2 of my 3 servers in that list.. I've noticed too the same thing with
my other server.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:46 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

It wouldn't take much to delist every single West Coast server, I'm sure it
would be more than possible to do it with a simple 10mbit box. For instance
at one point I was able to view my server in the server browser just fine,
now my test server is well... Unknown to the masses, than again this only
started happening a couple weeks ago. I just checked now and I still don't
see it. This is however most likely unrelated to your issue DWN.

My steam server list:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5486/listf.jpg

Kyle.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, DontWannaName!
wrote:

> That is completely different. This has been going on for a month now.
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Craig H  wrote:
>
> > I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on Steam as
> a
> > whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are probably
> > starting there.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, DontWannaName!  > >wrote:
> >
> > > I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west coast. The
> > > heartbeat
> > > is a work around but whoever is doing it, is sending the packets so
> fast
> > > that its almost impossible to combat it.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Craig H  wrote:
> > >
> > > > It would take an extremely large and organized group of individuals
> to
> > > > actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you are
being
> > > > blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your connection to
> > the
> > > > master servers.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, DontWannaName! <
> ad...@topnotchclan.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the west
> coast
> > > > > making
> > > > > it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites.
This
> > is
> > > > > severely hurting our population and forcing users to find servers
> > > > > elsewhere.
> > > > > Whoever is doing this doesnt want people joining servers on the
> west
> > > > coast.
> > > > > For whatever real reason they are doing it, in the end Valve needs
> to
> > > fix
> > > > > this. This has been going on for at least a month now and by
> posting
> > > this
> > > > I
> > > > > hope to reach more affected server owns.
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Someone that has something against us server owners.  He got butt hurt
because he got banned, something along those lines.

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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
Sent: 2010-01-07 10:51 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available


So "Poor admins" will include all good servers...
Which dumbass made this website?



> http://tf2app.com/blacklist/
>
> 2010/1/7 Shane Arnold 
>
>> But *you* are not *everyone*. It only takes one malicious/incorrect
>> entry to start screwing things up.
>>
>> On 7/01/2010 10:42 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
>> > If you have a centralized blacklist that people trust, maintain it and
>> > verify submitted servers to prevent abuse, I think it's better than not
>> > having a blacklist at all.
>> >
>> > This is also why I would only blacklist malicious servers, it's not too
>> > difficult to verify malicious servers.
>> >
>> > - voogru.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:33 AM
>> > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>> >
>> > That's the damn truth..
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Peter Powell
>> > Sent: 2010-01-07 9:12 AM
>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>> >
>> > The issue with allowing people to import blocklists is that they will
>> > rush on Google and use the first blocklist they find. That blocklist
>> > will most likely be full of servers that $RANDOM_LUSER added to get 
>> > back
>> > at $SERVER_OWNER for banning them for mic spamming.
>> >
>> > ~Peter Powell
>> >
>> > Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yeah I saw that, but generally I support the idea of a centralized
>> >> blacklist.
>> >>
>> >> But only with really malicious servers.
>> >>
>> >> - voogru.
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
>> DontWannaName!
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:36 PM
>> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>> >>
>> >> Hey look Voogru, you are on that list too for running 24+ max slots 
>> >> lol
>> :P
>> >> 24+ max players is part of the game now so that makes little sense...
>> >>
>> >> 67.213.213.107voogru.com24+ Max Players
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Hoffman
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> There's already http://tf2app.com/blacklist/ which is an active list.
>> I
>> >>> believe it is designed for Peer Guardian/Peer Block/etc, so I second
>> the
>> >>> option to import IP's and not have it be formatted.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald<
>> >>> voo...@voogru.com>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> The issue with the fake "bot" pings would probably have become more 
>> >>>> of
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >> an
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> issue now that bots are becoming more available. Malicious server
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> operators
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> could disguise the valve tf2 bots as real players.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Combine that with fake players in queries and you have one more
>> problem
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> to
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> deal with.
&g

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

That's the damn truth.. 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Peter Powell
Sent: 2010-01-07 9:12 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

The issue with allowing people to import blocklists is that they will 
rush on Google and use the first blocklist they find. That blocklist 
will most likely be full of servers that $RANDOM_LUSER added to get back 
at $SERVER_OWNER for banning them for mic spamming.

~Peter Powell

Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
> Yeah I saw that, but generally I support the idea of a centralized
> blacklist.
>
> But only with really malicious servers.
>
> - voogru.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:36 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>
> Hey look Voogru, you are on that list too for running 24+ max slots lol :P
> 24+ max players is part of the game now so that makes little sense...
>
> 67.213.213.107voogru.com24+ Max Players
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Hoffman
> wrote:
>
>   
>> There's already http://tf2app.com/blacklist/ which is an active list. I
>> believe it is designed for Peer Guardian/Peer Block/etc, so I second the
>> option to import IP's and not have it be formatted.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <
>> voo...@voogru.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> The issue with the fake "bot" pings would probably have become more of
>>>   
> an
>   
>>> issue now that bots are becoming more available. Malicious server
>>>   
>> operators
>> 
>>> could disguise the valve tf2 bots as real players.
>>>
>>> Combine that with fake players in queries and you have one more problem
>>>   
>> to
>> 
>>> deal with.
>>>
>>> I've seen some of these servers actually disable the status command so
>>>   
>> you
>> 
>>> can't see their "BOT" steamids as well.
>>>
>>> With the creation of blacklists hopefully some people come up with a
>>>   
>> decent
>> 
>>> blacklist. I would have liked to see the blacklist option be able to
>>>   
>> import
>> 
>>> IP's from a website (even if it's just a txt file on the website) like
>>> PeerGuardian, perhaps it can be in a future update.
>>>
>>>
>>> -voogru
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dislexsick
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 6:44 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>
>>> The update states it is people changing the word BOT in the ping column
>>>   
>> on
>> 
>>> the scoreboard...
>>>
>>> This does not address fake player counts, a far more widespread and
>>> malicious tactic imo.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Joshua Bost
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andy C 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2010 09:37
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>
>>> The bot issue you are refering to has to do with server admins running
>>> "fake
>>> clients" plugins. These report more players in the server than there
>>> actually is. Apparently Valve has come up with bots that actually play
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> game, just like in L4D/L4D2.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Josh Bost 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 "Tuned scoreboard logic to guard against malicious server operators
 spoofing
 bot pings to hide the "BOT" tag."

 As a follower of the SPUF I have seen threads about servers with bots
 
>>> with
>>>   
 simulated pings, one just yesterday, in-fact.  After reading this,
 the consensus seemed to be that although some people felt 'ripped off'
 
>> it
>> 
 made a better experience for a few people.  After reading about it I
 
>> was
>> 
 curious, so I done a quick google search and sure enough there was a
 
>>> single
>>>   
 plugin with something like 3 replies on the alliedmods forums.

 I don't really understand - Clearly this was not a completely
 
>> widespread
>> 
 issue, and calling the server owners malicious is a little bit wrong I
 think.  Personally, I wouldn't mind a server with a few bots as
 
> hosting
>   
>> a
>> 
 server locally, even with a  fairly beefy CPU (Core2 Q9550) my game
 
>>> grinds
>>>   
 to a screeching halt with 15 bots (9fps ftw).

 Anyway, since this is a controversial topic I realize this is not
 
> going
>   
>>> to
>>>   
 change, as it is for 'the better of the communi

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Thanks.. I already know about that..  But someone posted in the list
yesterday looking for this exact thing.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Bower
Sent: 2010-01-06 4:50 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Iptables...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2010, at 16:43, Don Williams  wrote:

> Why can't we get a server side class c black list?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Jason Ruymen 
> wrote:
>
>> A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
>> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific change include:
>>
>> Server Browser (for TF2 and DoD:S)
>> - Added a client-side server blacklist:
>> - Supports blacklisting of specific servers, all servers on an
>> IP, and all servers on a class C range.
>> - Saves the server list to a file, and has an Import button to
>> allow easy sharing (cfg\server_blacklist.txt)
>>
>> Balance changes:
>> - Reduced the health penalty on The Sandman.
>> - The Force-A-Nature knockback on target now:
>>  - Only applies to hits that deal more than 30 damage and are
>> in close range.
>>  - Factors in the firer's angle of attack when determining the
>> knockback direction.
>>  - Has less of an effect on grounded targets.
>> - The Dead Ringer now:
>>  - Reduces cloak to 40% when uncloaking early.
>>  - Has a 35% cap on the amount of cloak it can gain from an
>> ammo pack.
>>  - Has a quieter de-cloak sound.
>>
>> Changes / Fixes:
>> - Fixed a performance & stability issue with AMD processors.
>> - Improved the stability of the game server -> item backend
>> connection.
>> - Fixed a rare server crash related to dispensers.
>> - Added min/max values to viewmodel_fov convar to match the
>> settings in the slider.
>> - Reduced the number of moons in ctf_doublecross, sadly.
>> - Demo playback now ignores sv_pure settings, allowing demos to
>> easily contain custom content.
>> - Fixed a crash related to sv_pure and the wireframe_dx6 shader.
>> - Players can no longer shoot while stunned.
>> - Fixed a bug that caused movement speed reductions to not work on
>> stunned players.
>> - Soldier Rage bar no longer resets when touching a resupply cabinet.
>>
>> Achievement fixes:
>> - Fixed the "Second Eye" Demoman achievement.
>> - Fixed a bug in the "Play Doctor" Medic achievement.
>> - Changed the requirements for the "Medals of Honor" Soldier
>> achievement.
>> - Updated description for the "Blind Fire" Demoman achievement to
>> better explain the requirements.
>> - Fixed an issue that affected several achievements requiring the
>> use of the Equalizer.
>>
>> Community requests:
>> - Added "skip_next_map" server ConCommand to skip the next map in
>> the map cycle.
>> - Added "Play a hit sound whenever you injure an enemy" option to
>> the Multiplayer->Advanced options menu.
>> - Added server "tf_use_fixedshotgunspreads" convar. When set,
>> shotgun & scattergun pellet spreads will use a non-random
>> distribution.
>> - Added a "show_htmlpage" command to allow server operators to
>> display custom web pages to clients.
>>
>> Changes to the TF Bots:
>> - In KOTH mode, Bots are now:
>>  - More likely to roam around and hunt enemies if there is lots
>> of time left.
>>  - Become more likely to push for the point as time runs down,
>> or their teammates start to capture it.
>> - Medic bots now:
>>  - Opportunistically "overheal" nearby friends when they can.
>>  - Prioritize healing of injured nearby friends more.
>>  - Don't focus on Heavies quite so exclusively.
>>  - Don't spam their Medigun continuously at round start.
>>  - Won't choose cover far below their heal target so much
>> (koth_nucleus).
>>  - Fight back with their syringe-gun appropriately.
>> - Various improvements to combat behaviors.
>> - General bot improvements:
>>  - They no longer stand still on the point when capturing or
>> defending it.
>>  - They choose more varied routes now.
>>  - They choose better defensive spots around captured points.
>>  - They fall back to another weapon when they entirely run out
>> of ammo.
>>  - They adjust their FOV when using zoomed in sniper scope

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Why can't we get a server side class c black list?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Jason Ruymen   
wrote:

> A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run  
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific change include:
>
> Server Browser (for TF2 and DoD:S)
> - Added a client-side server blacklist:
>  - Supports blacklisting of specific servers, all servers on an  
> IP, and all servers on a class C range.
>  - Saves the server list to a file, and has an Import button to  
> allow easy sharing (cfg\server_blacklist.txt)
>
> Balance changes:
>  - Reduced the health penalty on The Sandman.
>  - The Force-A-Nature knockback on target now:
>   - Only applies to hits that deal more than 30 damage and are  
> in close range.
>   - Factors in the firer's angle of attack when determining the  
> knockback direction.
>   - Has less of an effect on grounded targets.
>  - The Dead Ringer now:
>   - Reduces cloak to 40% when uncloaking early.
>   - Has a 35% cap on the amount of cloak it can gain from an  
> ammo pack.
>   - Has a quieter de-cloak sound.
>
> Changes / Fixes:
>  - Fixed a performance & stability issue with AMD processors.
>  - Improved the stability of the game server -> item backend  
> connection.
>  - Fixed a rare server crash related to dispensers.
>  - Added min/max values to viewmodel_fov convar to match the  
> settings in the slider.
>  - Reduced the number of moons in ctf_doublecross, sadly.
>  - Demo playback now ignores sv_pure settings, allowing demos to  
> easily contain custom content.
>  - Fixed a crash related to sv_pure and the wireframe_dx6 shader.
>  - Players can no longer shoot while stunned.
>  - Fixed a bug that caused movement speed reductions to not work on  
> stunned players.
>  - Soldier Rage bar no longer resets when touching a resupply cabinet.
>
> Achievement fixes:
>  - Fixed the "Second Eye" Demoman achievement.
>  - Fixed a bug in the "Play Doctor" Medic achievement.
>  - Changed the requirements for the "Medals of Honor" Soldier  
> achievement.
>  - Updated description for the "Blind Fire" Demoman achievement to  
> better explain the requirements.
>  - Fixed an issue that affected several achievements requiring the  
> use of the Equalizer.
>
> Community requests:
>  - Added "skip_next_map" server ConCommand to skip the next map in  
> the map cycle.
>  - Added "Play a hit sound whenever you injure an enemy" option to  
> the Multiplayer->Advanced options menu.
>  - Added server "tf_use_fixedshotgunspreads" convar. When set,  
> shotgun & scattergun pellet spreads will use a non-random  
> distribution.
>  - Added a "show_htmlpage" command to allow server operators to  
> display custom web pages to clients.
>
> Changes to the TF Bots:
>  - In KOTH mode, Bots are now:
>   - More likely to roam around and hunt enemies if there is lots  
> of time left.
>   - Become more likely to push for the point as time runs down,  
> or their teammates start to capture it.
>  - Medic bots now:
>   - Opportunistically "overheal" nearby friends when they can.
>   - Prioritize healing of injured nearby friends more.
>   - Don't focus on Heavies quite so exclusively.
>   - Don't spam their Medigun continuously at round start.
>   - Won't choose cover far below their heal target so much  
> (koth_nucleus).
>   - Fight back with their syringe-gun appropriately.
>  - Various improvements to combat behaviors.
>  - General bot improvements:
>   - They no longer stand still on the point when capturing or  
> defending it.
>   - They choose more varied routes now.
>   - They choose better defensive spots around captured points.
>   - They fall back to another weapon when they entirely run out  
> of ammo.
>   - They adjust their FOV when using zoomed in sniper scope.
>   - They treat in-range Sentries as the most dangerous threat.
>   - They fire their weapons is more realistic bursts.
>   - Engineers use their shotgun properly.
>  - Added a "virtual mousepad" concept to rework how bots track enemy  
> players:
>   - They now periodically estimate the position and velocity of  
> the enemy they are tracking, instead of "locking on".
>   - After rotating beyond a maximum angle, they will pause for a  
> fraction of a second to re-center their "virtual mouse".
>   - Allows for over/undershoot "slop" in aiming. Looks more  
> natural, and allows skilled players to dodge.
>   - Addresses the "180 spin around and fire", "Heavy bot is OP",  
> "Sniper is OP", and "I can't fight a Heavy bot as a Scout" issues.
>  - Tuned Sniper spot finding algorithm to generate more diverse  
> locations, partially addressing the "Predictable Sniper camping  
> spots" issue.
>  - Soldier bots are more careful to not fire rockets that will  
> explode on nearby geometry and kill them
>  - Fixed a bug where bots tried to heal from a Dispenser being  
> carr

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

[Don Williams]

We don't care.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:11 PM, "Andrew Leach (luaduck)"  
 wrote:

> I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now
> required (instead of optional) with a boycott of this game
>
> On 06/01/2010 20:59, Jason Ruymen wrote:
>> A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way.  It should be  
>> live in about 1 hour.
>>
>> Jason
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Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas to everyone!

[Don Williams]

Rawr

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Craig H  wrote:

> Merry Christmas. Death to political correctness.
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Don Williams   
> wrote:
>
>> Correct terminology is happy holidays from whendarknessfalls.org. > advert>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:56 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I celebrate gift day, one of the best days of the year. Gifts are
>>> important
>>> in my world.
>>>
>>> Anyway, happy Yule.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM, msleeper >>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, off topic at an extreme level. Also lol @ assuming everyone on
>>>> the
>>>> list celebrates christmas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 22:40 +0100, Christoffer Pedersen wrote:
>>>>> This may be offtopic at the Extreme level, but i just want to wish
>>>>> everybody here on the mailing list a merry Christmas, and a happy
>>>>> new
>>>>> year!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Christoffer Pedersen
>>>>>
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Re: [hlds] Merry Christmas to everyone!

[Don Williams]

Correct terminology is happy holidays from whendarknessfalls.org. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:56 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I celebrate gift day, one of the best days of the year. Gifts are  
> important
> in my world.
>
> Anyway, happy Yule.
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM, msleeper  >wrote:
>
>> Yup, off topic at an extreme level. Also lol @ assuming everyone on  
>> the
>> list celebrates christmas.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 22:40 +0100, Christoffer Pedersen wrote:
>>> This may be offtopic at the Extreme level, but i just want to wish
>>> everybody here on the mailing list a merry Christmas, and a happy  
>>> new
>>> year!
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Christoffer Pedersen
>>>
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

My servers still up.

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Flubber
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Still client crashes (got 2, around 15 since the demo update) and i've never
crash before.

2009/12/23 Jake Eisenman 

> The game launches :) Success!!!
>
> But, everyone's on different hardware, different mods, i'd image it's
> very difficult to test everything.
>
> Alex wrote:
> > That makes me wonder what they mean when they say "test"
> >
> > François wrote:
> >
> >> Here too.
> >>
> >> 2009/12/23 Michael Krasnow :
> >>
> >>
> >>> as soon as we got this update the server and everyone on it crashed
-.-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

6 servers here running good.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

No problems here


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Re: [hlds] TF2 CTF crashing

[Don Williams]

2nd.  Could be a plugin causing it.

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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 4:46 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 CTF crashing

what mods you running?

version of sourcemod etc

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Andy Cogswell wrote:

> I've gotten a report from my clan mates that our TF2 server is crashing
> whenever someone brings the enemy intel to their base. They were able to
> reproduce it 4 times in a row. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: [hlds] tf2 higher cpu usage

[Don Williams]

On server 2k3 mine appear to be the same as before.

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Stanton
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:49 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] tf2 higher cpu usage

If you are not running HiResTimer or srcdsfpsboost, then you are not 
seeing the true amount of CPU usage in task manager (assuming a windows 
server).  I kinda doubt that valve included any code to trip the windows 
high resolution timer, but if they had, you would instantly see a huge 
jump in cpu usage, since task manager would then be able to report the 
actual cpu usage of srcds.  I do not believe that a HighResTimer or 
fpsbooster service is required in Windows Server 2008+, Windows Vista, 
or 7, but Windows Server 2003 and below need to have one running to get 
true cpu stats involving srcds.

We haven't noticed a CPU usage jump from srcds since the update that 
made bandwidth usage more efficient.  The likely culprit would be that 
valve changed something that caused a plugin to get borked and use more 
CPU (this is only a wild theory, and may not even be technically 
feasible, but it's the only thing I can come up with).

Kornelijus Survila wrote:
> server specs? 10%-20% cpu usage with 8 full servers is too unrealistic
>
> -k
>
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Tyler Burban  wrote:
>
>   
>> Any one else noticing a higher cpu usage with the latest update? Running
>> win 2008 usualy usage was 10%-20% with 8 full severs plus 6 full killing
>> floor servers. Now with aprox 5 full tf2 server the usage sits at
>> 45%-55%. I we had to shut down our killing floor servers to stop the
>> processor from being over loaded.
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

WOO HOO!!   Second time today someone was crying about there borked clients
:-)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:19 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

I wonder what you people are thinking when you see 
"hlds@list.valvesoftware.com".

Maybe hlds stands for "Help Lamers Do Shit".

Client issues belong @ https://support.steampowered.com

These lists are primarily for hlds/srcds/server administration issues.

On 19/12/2009 2:11 PM, Don Williams wrote:
> inb4not client support
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alex
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:31 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>
> I have a thread that has been up since the whole MOTD crash has been
> going on. It was fixed for a while, I bumped it. You can see some of the
> crashes that I have had in there. You guys should post there too with
> your OS.
>
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=874752&page=12
>
> Jeff Sugar wrote:
>
>> :<  I'm glad I'm not the only one who has that
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Alex  wrote:
>>
>>
>>  
>>> This is the most broken update yet. I continue to crash every single map
>>> change and sometimes randomly ingame. So many others with this all
>>> running win7 x64 too. Nice valve, nice.
>>>
>>> Flubber wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just love the achievement.
>>>> Got 5 get eyelander
>>>> Got 11 get nothing
>>>> Got 14 get Crappy Sticky Launcher
>>>>
>>>> hmmm, something wrong here.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/12/19 Tony Paloma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas
>>>>> Hastings
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:54 PM
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>>>
>>>>> Updating Installation
>>>>> Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Content' from version 122 to version 123
>>>>>
>>>>> 62.68%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
>>>>> 98.42%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server_i486.so
>>>>> 98.49%  source/orangebox\tf\maps\graphs\ctf_2fort.ain
>>>>> 99.52%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\modevents.res
>>>>> 99.99%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\tf_english.txt
>>>>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx
>>>>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\tf_weapon_minigun.ctx
>>>>>
>>>>> Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' from version 44 to version 45
>>>>>
>>>>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\steam.inf
>>>>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\materials\backpack\crafting\token_pda.vmt
>>>>>
>>>>> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Checking/Installing 'OB Dedicated Server' version 22
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/18/2009 9:44 PM, Tony Paloma wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have the list of changed files? I usually save it, but I
>>>>>>  
> goofed
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason
Ruymen
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:4

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

inb4not client support

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Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:31 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

I have a thread that has been up since the whole MOTD crash has been 
going on. It was fixed for a while, I bumped it. You can see some of the 
crashes that I have had in there. You guys should post there too with 
your OS.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=874752&page=12

Jeff Sugar wrote:
> :< I'm glad I'm not the only one who has that
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Alex  wrote:
>
>   
>> This is the most broken update yet. I continue to crash every single map
>> change and sometimes randomly ingame. So many others with this all
>> running win7 x64 too. Nice valve, nice.
>>
>> Flubber wrote:
>> 
>>> Just love the achievement.
>>> Got 5 get eyelander
>>> Got 11 get nothing
>>> Got 14 get Crappy Sticky Launcher
>>>
>>> hmmm, something wrong here.
>>>
>>> 2009/12/19 Tony Paloma 
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Thank you.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas
 Hastings
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:54 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 Updating Installation
 Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Content' from version 122 to version 123

 62.68%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
 98.42%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server_i486.so
 98.49%  source/orangebox\tf\maps\graphs\ctf_2fort.ain
 99.52%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\modevents.res
 99.99%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\tf_english.txt
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\tf_weapon_minigun.ctx

 Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' from version 44 to version 45

 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\steam.inf
 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\materials\backpack\crafting\token_pda.vmt

 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8


 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4


 Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4


 Checking/Installing 'OB Dedicated Server' version 22

 On 12/18/2009 9:44 PM, Tony Paloma wrote:

 
> Anybody have the list of changed files? I usually save it, but I
goofed
>
>   
 this

 
> time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:44 PM
> To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server
>
>   
 mailing

 
> list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
> Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>
> A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Fixed a client crash related to arrows
> - Fixed a server crash related to items
> - Fixed a server crash caused by the Demo taunt kill
> - Fixed a server crash caused by using the Equalizer
> - Fixed client ragdoll commands resulting in ragdolls standing around
> - Restored the missing point_teleport entity
> - Fixed stats and achievements being tracked while using sv_cheats
> - Fixed Spies being able to build dispensers
> - Fixed clients not fixing up inventory items in bad backpack
positions
> - Added a new chat message when players craft an item
> - Fixed "Bloody Merry" and "Second Eye" achievements being achieved
> incorrectly
> - Updated the description of the "Bravehurt" achievement
> - Fixed Blutsauger attributes
> - Fixed the Direct Hit having an incorrect short range damage curve
>   
>> (now
>> 
> matches the normal Rocket Launcher curve)
> - Fixed the Spy's unlockables watches using the wrong consume/recharge
>
>   
 rates

 
> Jason
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

On your client?  

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:08 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

This is the most broken update yet. I continue to crash every single map 
change and sometimes randomly ingame. So many others with this all 
running win7 x64 too. Nice valve, nice.

Flubber wrote:
> Just love the achievement.
> Got 5 get eyelander
> Got 11 get nothing
> Got 14 get Crappy Sticky Launcher
>
> hmmm, something wrong here.
>
> 2009/12/19 Tony Paloma 
>
>   
>> Thank you.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas
>> Hastings
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:54 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>
>> Updating Installation
>> Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Content' from version 122 to version 123
>>
>> 62.68%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
>> 98.42%  source/orangebox\tf\bin\server_i486.so
>> 98.49%  source/orangebox\tf\maps\graphs\ctf_2fort.ain
>> 99.52%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\modevents.res
>> 99.99%  source/orangebox\tf\resource\tf_english.txt
>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx
>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\scripts\tf_weapon_minigun.ctx
>>
>> Updating 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' from version 44 to version 45
>>
>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\steam.inf
>> 100.00% source/orangebox\tf\materials\backpack\crafting\token_pda.vmt
>>
>> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
>>
>>
>> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
>>
>>
>> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
>>
>>
>> Checking/Installing 'OB Dedicated Server' version 22
>>
>> On 12/18/2009 9:44 PM, Tony Paloma wrote:
>> 
>>> Anybody have the list of changed files? I usually save it, but I goofed
>>>   
>> this
>> 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
>>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:44 PM
>>> To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server
>>>   
>> mailing
>> 
>>> list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
>>> Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>
>>> A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
>>> hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:
>>>
>>> - Fixed a client crash related to arrows
>>> - Fixed a server crash related to items
>>> - Fixed a server crash caused by the Demo taunt kill
>>> - Fixed a server crash caused by using the Equalizer
>>> - Fixed client ragdoll commands resulting in ragdolls standing around
>>> - Restored the missing point_teleport entity
>>> - Fixed stats and achievements being tracked while using sv_cheats
>>> - Fixed Spies being able to build dispensers
>>> - Fixed clients not fixing up inventory items in bad backpack positions
>>> - Added a new chat message when players craft an item
>>> - Fixed "Bloody Merry" and "Second Eye" achievements being achieved
>>> incorrectly
>>> - Updated the description of the "Bravehurt" achievement
>>> - Fixed Blutsauger attributes
>>> - Fixed the Direct Hit having an incorrect short range damage curve (now
>>> matches the normal Rocket Launcher curve)
>>> - Fixed the Spy's unlockables watches using the wrong consume/recharge
>>>   
>> rates
>> 
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Still crashing on a vanilla.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:44 PM
To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing
list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:

- Fixed a client crash related to arrows
- Fixed a server crash related to items
- Fixed a server crash caused by the Demo taunt kill
- Fixed a server crash caused by using the Equalizer
- Fixed client ragdoll commands resulting in ragdolls standing around
- Restored the missing point_teleport entity 
- Fixed stats and achievements being tracked while using sv_cheats
- Fixed Spies being able to build dispensers
- Fixed clients not fixing up inventory items in bad backpack positions
- Added a new chat message when players craft an item
- Fixed "Bloody Merry" and "Second Eye" achievements being achieved
incorrectly
- Updated the description of the "Bravehurt" achievement
- Fixed Blutsauger attributes
- Fixed the Direct Hit having an incorrect short range damage curve (now
matches the normal Rocket Launcher curve)
- Fixed the Spy's unlockables watches using the wrong consume/recharge rates

Jason


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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 Updates Coming

[Don Williams]

Good job!

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:09 PM
To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing
list'
Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 Updates Coming

Required update for Team Fortress 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 are on the way.  They
should be available in less than an hour.

Jason

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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Released

[Don Williams]

Cool now you can annouce tf2 update coming soon ;-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jason Ruymen   
wrote:

> A required update for Left 4 Dead is now available.  Please run  
> hldsupdatetool to receive it.  The specific changes include:
>
> - Teams that prefer listen servers will no longer be matched with  
> teams that prefer dedicated servers
> - Official dedicated servers are now preferred when searching for  
> team matches
> - More populous lobbies are now preferred over less populous ones  
> when searching for games
> - Players who crash or have failed to load are no longer banned if  
> they have been kicked
> - Fixed exploit allowing players to end games prematurely using the  
> 'outtro_stats_done' console command
> - Reduced Dedicated Server max search ping to 150 ms
> - Fixed a common crash
>
> Jason
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Re: [hlds] Servers lost connection to steam but it hasnt

[Don Williams]

Amen! Now only if they fixed the crash problem we'd be in business.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2009, at 1:55 PM, f0rkz  wrote:

> I am sure they aren't going to change the wording and then rebuild the
> game just because their servers are too full.  Give it time and tell
> your players to stop whining, its not your servers.
>
> -f0rkz
>
> On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 19:48 +0100, Claudio Beretta wrote:
>> Happening here too (on windows and linux servers).
>> Can you please change the wording of the message that notifies the  
>> players
>> of the connection issues?
>> That message seems to suggest that it is a gameserver problem,  
>> while it
>> always is a problem on the Steam servers side.
>> I just hate having a dozens of players ask me or in the forums "I  
>> CAN'T USE
>> MY WEAPONS!!! FIX IT" :)
>> Thanks
>> Claudio
>> --
>> http://www.wantedgov.it
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Petri de Wet   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is really getting on my nerves players on my servers keep  
>>> saying that
>>> the servers have lost connection to steam but i restart the  
>>> servers and the
>>> second they connect nothing has changed. The servers starts up and  
>>> says
>>> that
>>> it connected successfully to the vac servers and some players can  
>>> change
>>> weapons and receive the new weapons while others can't use or  
>>> receive the
>>> new weapons or change to other weapons but they can get the  
>>> achievements.
>>> Im
>>> running Linux.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Peet
>>>
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update - Client Side Crash

[Don Williams]

Qft

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:26 PM, f0rkz  wrote:

> inb4not client support
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 17:17 +, Nour El Saidi wrote:
>> Windows 7 x64, ati hd4850, played ~1 hour, alt tabbed alot, map
>> changes, no issues for me. But, there were others complaining of
>> crashes :/
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Mike West > > wrote:
>>> Also Windows 7 x64 with ATI - I don't think it graphics card  
>>> related.  On
>>> Windows 7 x64 it BSODs...Horiic
>>>
>>> 2009/12/18 CAIN 
>>>
 Many of my players are crashing to desktop since the update with  
 this
 memory error.

 Windows XP machines running SP3 with nVidia video cards.

 http://www.cainslair.com/TF2crash.png

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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

It's pretty much hit or miss.. I got one server 24/7 that runs great..  I
got a vanilla server that runs valve maps that crash.. And I got another
24/7 that crashes once every couple hours..

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Violent Crimes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:59 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

I use

 SourceMod Version Information:
 SourceMod Version: 1.3.0-dev
 SourcePawn Engine: SourcePawn 1.1, jit-x86 (build 1.3.0-dev)
 SourcePawn API: v1 = 4, v2 = 3
 Compiled on: Sep  8 2009 00:38:11
 Build ID: 2798:6dd90eaa0593-dev
 http://www.sourcemod.net/

No crashes.

Mike Kurfis wrote:
> The only crashes I have seen so far on my server have happened on
> ctf_doublecross. Dunno if it's a coincidence or not.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Don Williams  wrote:
>
>   
>> Hopefully tomorrow early, well TODAY..
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:15 AM
>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>
>> I sent a dump to robin and he said he will be able to prevent the crash.
I
>> assume that means we will have a fix next patch.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:52 PM
>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>
>> same here, too
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:45 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>
>> I started to notice that too.. No mods or anything on a 8v8 server on
>> map changes.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Drew LaPour  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Doesn't seem to be entirely SM. I have verified game files and still
>>> am
>>> getting random crashed on a vanilla server. :-/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Don Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> Yeah, SM just needs updating.. For now I disabled it and all is
>>>> well..
>>>> I'll
>>>> check tomorrow for a new snapshot!
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> DontWannaName!
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:35 PM
>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, SM is still going to crash without any plugins or
>>>> extensions.But you
>>>> can prologue it without running any!
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <
>>>> voo...@voogru.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Whenever an update happens you should disable all plug-ins. Run the
>>>>>   
>>>> server
>>>> 
>>>>> for an hour (no crashes), then turn plug-ins on one at a time.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we get big updates, this is what happens. Plug-ins need
>>>>> updating.
>>>>>
>>>>> - voogru.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lyons
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:36 PM
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/12/2009, at 1:55 PM, Shizzle Nizzle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>> yea ours seem to crash on the ma

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Hopefully tomorrow early, well TODAY..  

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:15 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

I sent a dump to robin and he said he will be able to prevent the crash. I
assume that means we will have a fix next patch.

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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:52 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

same here, too

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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:45 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

I started to notice that too.. No mods or anything on a 8v8 server on  
map changes.

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On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Drew LaPour  wrote:

> Doesn't seem to be entirely SM. I have verified game files and still  
> am
> getting random crashed on a vanilla server. :-/
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Don Williams   
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, SM just needs updating.. For now I disabled it and all is  
>> well..
>> I'll
>> check tomorrow for a new snapshot!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of  
>> DontWannaName!
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:35 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>
>> Sadly, SM is still going to crash without any plugins or  
>> extensions.But you
>> can prologue it without running any!
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <
>> voo...@voogru.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Whenever an update happens you should disable all plug-ins. Run the
>> server
>>> for an hour (no crashes), then turn plug-ins on one at a time.
>>>
>>> When we get big updates, this is what happens. Plug-ins need  
>>> updating.
>>>
>>> - voogru.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lyons
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:36 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>
>>> On 18/12/2009, at 1:55 PM, Shizzle Nizzle wrote:
>>>
>>>> yea ours seem to crash on the map changes aswell.
>>>
>>> Same, just changed one of mine to gorge and came back to it 2mins  
>>> later
>> and
>>> its back on its start up map dustbowl.
>>>
>>> No dump file though.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> there is."
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

I started to notice that too.. No mods or anything on a 8v8 server on  
map changes.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Drew LaPour  wrote:

> Doesn't seem to be entirely SM. I have verified game files and still  
> am
> getting random crashed on a vanilla server. :-/
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Don Williams   
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, SM just needs updating.. For now I disabled it and all is  
>> well..
>> I'll
>> check tomorrow for a new snapshot!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of  
>> DontWannaName!
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:35 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>
>> Sadly, SM is still going to crash without any plugins or  
>> extensions.But you
>> can prologue it without running any!
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <
>> voo...@voogru.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Whenever an update happens you should disable all plug-ins. Run the
>> server
>>> for an hour (no crashes), then turn plug-ins on one at a time.
>>>
>>> When we get big updates, this is what happens. Plug-ins need  
>>> updating.
>>>
>>> - voogru.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lyons
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:36 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>
>>> On 18/12/2009, at 1:55 PM, Shizzle Nizzle wrote:
>>>
>>>> yea ours seem to crash on the map changes aswell.
>>>
>>> Same, just changed one of mine to gorge and came back to it 2mins  
>>> later
>> and
>>> its back on its start up map dustbowl.
>>>
>>> No dump file though.
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Yeah, SM just needs updating.. For now I disabled it and all is well..  I'll
check tomorrow for a new snapshot!

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:35 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Sadly, SM is still going to crash without any plugins or extensions.But you
can prologue it without running any!

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <
voo...@voogru.com> wrote:

> Whenever an update happens you should disable all plug-ins. Run the server
> for an hour (no crashes), then turn plug-ins on one at a time.
>
> When we get big updates, this is what happens. Plug-ins need updating.
>
> - voogru.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lyons
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:36 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>
> On 18/12/2009, at 1:55 PM, Shizzle Nizzle wrote:
>
> > yea ours seem to crash on the map changes aswell.
>
> Same, just changed one of mine to gorge and came back to it 2mins later
and
> its back on its start up map dustbowl.
>
> No dump file though.
>
> --
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

QFT!

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Spencer 'voogru'
MacDonald
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:31 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Whenever an update happens you should disable all plug-ins. Run the server
for an hour (no crashes), then turn plug-ins on one at a time.

When we get big updates, this is what happens. Plug-ins need updating.

- voogru.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lyons
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:36 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

On 18/12/2009, at 1:55 PM, Shizzle Nizzle wrote:

> yea ours seem to crash on the map changes aswell.

Same, just changed one of mine to gorge and came back to it 2mins later and
its back on its start up map dustbowl.

No dump file though.

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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

I'm on 1.7.1 for windows.
And I re-checked for updates.


-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dog
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:54 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

1.7.1 works with Windows
1.8.0 works with Linux

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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

This is even weirder... I got 2 other servers that are working PERFECTLY
fine!

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:45 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Yeah I re-checked my updates and im on 1.7.1 too same thing.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kornholijo Survila
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:39 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

crashes even with meta 1.7.1 :/

#0  0xf769123c in ?? () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#1  0x098a3eb4 in ?? ()
#2  0x0876cdfc in ?? ()
#3  0xffb9b948 in ?? ()
#4  0xf7836444 in ?? () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#5  0xf5e338d8 in ?? () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf76d6b60 in Map_VisMark () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#7  0x786f in ?? ()
#8  0x in ?? ()

-k

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Dog  wrote:

> Run the updater again.
> If you have any addons like MetaMod Source then make sure you are running
> 1.7.1
>
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[Don Williams]

Yeah I re-checked my updates and im on 1.7.1 too same thing.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kornholijo Survila
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:39 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

crashes even with meta 1.7.1 :/

#0  0xf769123c in ?? () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#1  0x098a3eb4 in ?? ()
#2  0x0876cdfc in ?? ()
#3  0xffb9b948 in ?? ()
#4  0xf7836444 in ?? () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#5  0xf5e338d8 in ?? () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so
#6  0xf76d6b60 in Map_VisMark () from
/home/srcds/dustbowl/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so
#7  0x786f in ?? ()
#8  0x in ?? ()

-k

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> Run the updater again.
> If you have any addons like MetaMod Source then make sure you are running
> 1.7.1
>
> -Dog
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Don Williams]

That would be pretty cool.. 

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nightbox
Sent: 2009-12-11 2:33 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

A sourcemod plugin to track total soldier vs demo kills ? Would be cool ?

2009/12/11 Ben B 

> mmm plugins to give demomen reduce damage vs rockets
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Eric Pan  wrote:
>
> > People who call Soldier, "solly" should resign themselves to the
position
> > of
> > Demoman.
> > I won't have maggots turning Soldier into something feminine.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Moe  wrote:
> >
> > > Make that 100% crits for soldiers so the solly can win!
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
> > > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:44 PM
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
> > >
> > >
> > >  Pure chaos... 100% crits so much win.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Dog  wrote:
> > >
> > > > We run MM and SM...all fine
> > > > BTW, this is a genius idea :)
> > > >
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Don Williams]

Pure chaos... 100% crits so much win.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming Today

[Don Williams]

Bug fixes?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Alec Sanger  wrote:

>
> friendship?
>
>
>
>> From: jas...@valvesoftware.com
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:18:54 -0800
>> Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming Today
>>
>> A required Team Fortress 2 will be arriving later today.
>>
>> Jason
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

Nothing I had a question directed if anyone had a known list of people  
crashing servers an it turned into this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Mark  wrote:

> 1. Unfortunately, I would imagine teens being a large part of the user
> base. Nevermind teens, most players cuss in general regardless of age
> (if you're a nay-sayer, you'd be surprised).
>
> Banning for bad language is an over-reaction in my opinion and there
> are better ways to deal with the use of profanities. Fortunately,
> there are SM plugins; a simple search yielded the following:
> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=499584
>
> 2. What does this have to do with the recent update?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ook  wrote:
>> That really isn't for you to decide now, is it? I run a PG-13 OP4  
>> server,
>> and my admins are pretty militant about enforcing that. It's  
>> working well
>> and has for a while now, and there are plenty of teens that play  
>> there and
>> respect the no profanity rules.
>>
>> Seriously, what percentage of players do you think are teens? Do  
>> adults drop
>> their IQ by 30 points and develop a potty mouth simply be being in- 
>> game? Or
>> are many/most of them mouthy immature teens to start with? I vote  
>> for the
>> latter...
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "f0rkz" 
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update  
>> Released
>>
>>
>>> I mean... It is an M rated game.  Teens shouldn't be playing in the
>>> first place.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:02 -0800, Ook wrote:
>>>> I parse my server logs on a regular basis, and I can look up any  
>>>> player
>>>> by
>>>> steam id, name, or IP and see all names and IPs they have used.  
>>>> You want
>>>> to
>>>> ban people that swear a lot? That is probably 90% of your user  
>>>> base.
>>>> There
>>>> are a lot of people out there that just can't control their mouths.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "w4rezz" 
>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>>> 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:17 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update  
>>>> Released
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a list of known people what use "fuck" too much? I
>>>> dont wanna use swear filter.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/12/9 Don Williams :
>>>>> Does anyone have a running list of known people that have or  
>>>>> tried to
>>>>> perform this exploit steam id's IP addresses?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of  
>>>>> Maximilian L.
>>>>> Sent: 2009-12-08 11:49 AM
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update
>>>>> Released
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing.
>>>>>> There is already a list of banned extensions that  
>>>>>> includes .dll, vdf,
>>>>>> exe,
>>>>>> and yes, ini
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of  
>>>>>> Maximilian
>>>>>> L.
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM
>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update
>>>>>> Released
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote myself from IRC:
>>>>>> [ "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf,  
>>>>>> and .sys files
>>>>>> between client/server" <- does that mean i can still remotely  
>>>>>> download
>>>>>> my .ini including my SQL logins?]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I t

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

Hey that's a great idea... sigh.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Gottlieb
Sent: 2009-12-09 12:38 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

I just ban all IP addresses.
0.0.0.0 DENY

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, -xL-Trinidad
 wrote:
> yea, Id like to have a big list of steam ids to import to my sourcebans.
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: w4rezz
>  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:17 PM
>  Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
>
>
>  Does anyone have a list of known people what use "fuck" too much? I
>  dont wanna use swear filter.
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

Does anyone have a running list of known people that have or tried to
perform this exploit steam id's IP addresses?

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
Sent: 2009-12-08 11:49 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing.
> There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, vdf, exe,
> and yes, ini
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
>
> Quote myself from IRC:
> [ "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys files 
> between client/server" <- does that mean i can still remotely download 
> my .ini including my  SQL logins?]
>
> I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!!
>
>   


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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

I love IPsec.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:49 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

if you look at that guy's profile

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Summary/

<http://steamcommunity.com/id/Summary/>half of it is glitched up you see
that a lot with hacking communities

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Don Williams  wrote:

> And apparently this guy says it's a non-fixable hack..  Welll.. Good job.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
>
>
>
http://commonwealthgaming.net/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEA
> M_0:1:25096875&Submit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:28 PM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
>
> STEAM_0:1:25096875
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:11 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
>
> Post SteamID please.
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 19:05 -0500, Don Williams wrote:
> > Just FYI, that problem isn't fixed I'm having a guy crash my server
right
> > now since I caught him and banned him.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:49 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update
Released
> >
> > Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing.
> > > There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, vdf,
> exe,
> > > and yes, ini
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian
> L.
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update
> Released
> > >
> > > Quote myself from IRC:
> > > [ "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys files
> > > between client/server" <- does that mean i can still remotely download
> > > my .ini including my  SQL logins?]
> > >
> > > I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

And apparently this guy says it's a non-fixable hack..  Welll.. Good job.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:33 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

http://commonwealthgaming.net/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEA
M_0:1:25096875&Submit

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:28 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

STEAM_0:1:25096875

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:11 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

Post SteamID please.


On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 19:05 -0500, Don Williams wrote:
> Just FYI, that problem isn't fixed I'm having a guy crash my server right
> now since I caught him and banned him.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:49 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
> 
> Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing.
> > There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, vdf,
exe,
> > and yes, ini
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update
Released
> >
> > Quote myself from IRC:
> > [ "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys files 
> > between client/server" <- does that mean i can still remotely download 
> > my .ini including my  SQL logins?]
> >
> > I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!!
> >
> >   
> 
> 


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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

http://commonwealthgaming.net/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEA
M_0:1:25096875&Submit

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:28 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

STEAM_0:1:25096875

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:11 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

Post SteamID please.


On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 19:05 -0500, Don Williams wrote:
> Just FYI, that problem isn't fixed I'm having a guy crash my server right
> now since I caught him and banned him.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:49 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
> 
> Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing.
> > There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, vdf,
exe,
> > and yes, ini
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update
Released
> >
> > Quote myself from IRC:
> > [ "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys files 
> > between client/server" <- does that mean i can still remotely download 
> > my .ini including my  SQL logins?]
> >
> > I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!!
> >
> >   
> 
> 


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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

STEAM_0:1:25096875

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:11 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

Post SteamID please.


On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 19:05 -0500, Don Williams wrote:
> Just FYI, that problem isn't fixed I'm having a guy crash my server right
> now since I caught him and banned him.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:49 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
> 
> Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing.
> > There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, vdf,
exe,
> > and yes, ini
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update
Released
> >
> > Quote myself from IRC:
> > [ "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys files 
> > between client/server" <- does that mean i can still remotely download 
> > my .ini including my  SQL logins?]
> >
> > I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!!
> >
> >   
> 
> 


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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[Don Williams]

Just FYI, that problem isn't fixed I'm having a guy crash my server right
now since I caught him and banned him.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:49 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

Ah ok, just was a little bit confused. Thanks for clearing.
> There is already a list of banned extensions that includes .dll, vdf, exe,
> and yes, ini
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Maximilian L.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:31 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Day of Defeat: Source Update Released
>
> Quote myself from IRC:
> [ "Added checks to prevent transferring .smx, .gcf, and .sys files 
> between client/server" <- does that mean i can still remotely download 
> my .ini including my  SQL logins?]
>
> I think .ini's are more importand to secure than .smx?!!
>
>   


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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Don Williams]

OK THNX TO YOU!

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:22 PM
To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing
list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
hldsudpatetool to receive it.  The specific changes include:

Team Fortress 2
- Added a new community map: Koth_Harvest
- Added a Halloween edition called Koth_Harvest_Event
- Contains a variety of Halloween related features: New hats,
achievements, exploding pumpkins, ghosts, and more!
- Updated the CTF, Arena, and KOTH versions of Sawmill
- Fixed Engineer exploit
- Added check to prevent clients from sending empty or all whitespace names
to the server
- Fixed "item_found" announcements coloring the player names if the player
has :: in their name
- QuickSwitch improvements
- Added key input so you can cycle through it using the slot input
keys
- Added all loadout slots (not just primary, secondary, and melee)
- Removed duplicate entries (should only see 1 flaregun, etc.)
- Fixed a few small layout & empty slot bugs

Community requests:
- Updated item_teamflag with flags to toggle the trail effects: 0 none, 1
all, 2 paper only, 3 color only
- Added a "both" selection to the invalid winners field for
team_control_point_master and team_control_point_round entities

Jason


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Re: [hlds] No dedi files CoD MW2

[Don Williams]

I read about this and was seriously disappointed.  I had full intent on
setting one up upon release, now I'm not even sure if I want the game at
all.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of D3vilfish
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:54 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: [hlds] No dedi files CoD MW2

With the recent announcement from IW to not include dedicated server files
for their latest release of CoD MW2 shortly to be released through steam.
There has been pressure from the CoD clan and online gaming community, this
is now being backed by some of the big names in the gaming world like
Gamespy, IGN and Dice. As other Admins may or may not be aware of this more
can be read here
http://www.thedadsarmy.net/news/196-infinity-ward-snubs-pc-community
and the author of the petition can be found here>>>
http://www.modernwarfare2-pc.com/no.html
Simiancage threads
http://www.simiancage.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5140

Please read and sign the petition. To have no dedi files in such a fps like
CoD is the beginning of the end.
Regards
Simianteam
Simiancage.org


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Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

[Don Williams]

I think this entire update was great the people that are raged over loosing 
all there stuff due to the sourceop idle program amuses me.

- Original Message - 
From: "Donnie Newlove" 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 

Sent: 2009-09-03 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos


> They will fix that, it should be done tomorrow.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:23 PM, 1nsane<1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That would have meant extra work for Valve.You silly goose.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, TheGeekLord  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have noticed that quite a lot of people I know who used the idler
>>> (including myself) have lost items which they got via doing the
>>> achievements. Maybe Valve should of checked what they were deleting
>>> BEFORE they deleted it? I find it fair to delete items found via the
>>> idler but NOT items got from doing the achievements.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds] TF2 required update released

[Don Williams]

Fail.


-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:12 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 required update released

spy was sappin' their update ...

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sugar
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:09 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 required update released

New Update Style: UPDATE WITHOUT THE UPDATE :v

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Dan Offord  wrote:

> No one is currently :(
>
> 2009/6/9 Anthony R. Paloma 
>
> >
> > I'm not getting this update from the update tool.
> >
> > > From: er...@valvesoftware.com
> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com;
> > hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:59:01 -0700
> > > Subject: [hlds] TF2 required update released
> > >
> > > We've release a required update for TF2. Sorry for the lack of notice
> > ahead of time on this one. The details are below.
> > >
> > > -Eric
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Engine
> > > --
> > > Fixed Day of Defeat: Source server crash when loading dod_jagd.
> > >
> > >
> > > Team Fortress 2
> > > ---
> > > Added a "Discard" button to the item pickup panel.
> > > Added a backstab custom death animation to the Heavy.
> > > Changed default for tf_arena_use_queue to 1. This was the original
> > behavior prior to the last update.
> > > Changed the Dead Ringer so it can be activated while carrying the
flag.
> > > Increased the Force-A-Nature's damage by 10%.
> > > Fixed not being able to reflect arrows with the Flamethrower.
> > > Fixed The Huntsman drawing a muzzle flash under lagged conditions.
> > > Fixed the background color of the Spy disguise panel not always
> matching
> > his disguise team.
> > > Fixed idle players being kicked when the server has tf_arena_use_queue
> > set to 0.
> > > Fixed Spies not being able to sap a building if an enemy player was
> > colliding with the building.
> > > Fixed getting a real target ID on an enemy Spy that's disguised as one
> of
> > your teammates if you are disguised as an enemy.
> > > Fixed the Ambassador not shooting enemy sticky bombs.
> > > Fixed Spies being able to automatically cloak after uncloaking at the
> > moment of a weapon switch.
> > > Fixed Jarate instantly exploding when thrown in some places, like the
> > final area of Badwater.
> > > Fixed spectators not having their items removed when they enter
> spectator
> > mode.
> > > Fixed Sniper "civilian" exploit where players could crash the server.
> > > Fixed a couple of cases where viable backstabs would fail.
> > >
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

[Don Williams]

Of course you do this when I'm about to go out come on ;-)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Jason Ruymen   
wrote:

> A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way.  Should be live  
> in about an hour.
>
> Jason
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Re: [hlds] [L4D]Server wont allow any more connections after a gameconcludes.

[Don Williams]

I have

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Roman S  wrote:

> Actually, now there happen to be times when server again becomes  
> filled with
> bots only. For some time after the recent patch the issue seemed  
> resolved,
> but now it's back, at least for me. Anyone noticed the "bot problem"  
> return?
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available

[Don Williams]

wam bam thank you drive thru
- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Ruymen" 
To: ; 
Sent: 2009-04-30 4:27 PM
Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available


>A recommended update for Left 4 Dead is now available.  Please run 
>hldsupdatetool to receive it.  The specific changes include:
>
> Survival Mode:
> - Removed an exploit from The Construction Site
> - Fixed issues with Survival Mode medals not being awarded properly in 
> rare cases
> - Times will no longer be awarded when joining mid-round and cheats had 
> been active during that round
>
> Servers:
> - Server will now reset correctly after all players leave a Versus game
>
> Match Making:
> - Fixed a mismatch between lobbies and servers that will remove the 
> "Server is full" errors when quickmatching
> - Fixed match making issue affecting Vista64 users
>
> Jason
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Re: [hlds] Isreali FRC regional

[Don Williams]

That's good stuff right there go Team YOU!
- Original Message - 
From: "Olly" 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 

Sent: 2009-03-19 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Isreali FRC regional


> Holy crap, that's awesome man.
> So awesome in fact, that I'm going to put this right where it belongs... 
> In
> my trash.
>
>
> Just in case anyone was wondering (well I'm going to tell you anyway) I 
> beat
> my personal best time of putting my trousers on this morning! Go Team ME
>
> 2009/3/19 Alec Sanger 
>
>>
>> congrats?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Alec Sanger
>> P: 248.941.3813
>> F: 313.286.8945
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:37:09 +0200
>> > From: tanktun...@gmail.com
>> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Isreali FRC regional
>> >
>> > My team won.Just thought you should know.
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Re: [hlds] Isreali FRC regional

[Don Williams]

good for you!
- Original Message - 
From: "matan nov" 
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Sent: 2009-03-19 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Isreali FRC regional


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Re: [hlds] New srcds exploit

[Don Williams]

Banned on my servers.
- Original Message - 
From: "Wiktor Deresz" 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 

Sent: 2009-02-03 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] New srcds exploit


> Good job getting his new account ;)
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Richard Eid  wrote:
>
>> For anyone still interested, as it seems like he will be keeping up his
>> website:
>>
>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/Chrisaster
>>
>> Note the date the account was created.
>>
>> And to save you all the time:
>>
>> STEAM_0:1:22741331
>> STEAM_1:1:22741331(In case he decides to buy Left 4 Dead)
>>
>> Since his new account has been located and his website and offers to sell
>> his exploits still remain, I am choosing to share this information with
>> you.  It doesn't look like he's taking this as seriously as we all are.
>>
>>-Richard Eid
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Drew LaPour 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > lol They locked the thread. :(
>> >
>> > www.5EGC.com
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:59 AM, CLAN RCR  wrote:
>> >
>> > > oh wow.. I lol'd heartily.
>> > >
>> > > I'll go ahead and ban him from my servers if you guys have his 
>> > > SteamID.
>> > ;-)
>> > >
>> > > -Matt
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Alex 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > good job richard
>> > > >
>> > > > you pwned him
>> > > >
>> > > > 2009/2/3 Patrick Shelley 
>> > > >
>> > > > > LOL Richard! He sounds very contrite now doesnt he.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 2/3/09, Richard Eid  wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Some of these problems have been addressed with last night's
>> patch.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I wonder if this was part of the patch: ;)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=796441
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks for taking care of this Valve.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -Richard 
>> > > > > > Eid
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Chris 
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Does this one also require the client to execute the command
>> > during
>> > > > > > > connection? Or does this one work if fully connected?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:42 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Yet another one:
>> > > > > > > > Client: STEAM_0:0:16216315 called: dump_entity_sizes
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM, AzuiSleet <
>> azuisl...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > These exploits have been around for a very long time, 
>> > > > > > > > > it's
>> > just
>> > > > > > nobody
>> > > > > > > > > really abused them like they have been now. The obvious
>> > > commands
>> > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > > "physics_select" and friends. The reason they crash a
>> server
>> > is
>> > > > > > because
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > player is NULL during connect. As for the "console" spam,
>> > > that's
>> > > > a
>> > > > > > side
>> > > > > > > > > effect of having a NULL player, the game thinks the say 
>> > > > > > > > > is
>> > > coming
>> > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > console. Most of this stuff is obvious when you look in 
>> > > > > > > > > the
>> > > SDK.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Tom Leighton <
>> > > > > > > > tomrleigh...@googlemail.com
>> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > VAC is fully automated, and VALVe do not accept any
>> > cheater's
>> > > > > steam
>> > > > > > > id
>> > > > > > > > > > submissions.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > However, you could report them to www.steambans.com if
>> you
>> > > run
>> > > > > > > > > steambans.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Andrey Titov wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > sorry..
>> > > > > > > > > > > can i ask hire?
>> > > > > > > > > > > need adress to sent cheat players steam id's.. piss 
>> > > > > > > > > > > me
>> > off
>> > > > > that's
>> > > > > > > > > little
>> > > > > > > > > > > bastards ))
>> > > > > > > > > > > valve adress better. ban by server is too liitle
>> trouble
>> > > for
>> > > > > > thouse
>> > > > > > > > > > players.
>> > > > > > > > > > > sorr for bad eng
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > 2009/2/2 Justin 
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >> True, but we have alot of time on our hands aswell
>> > seeing
>> > > as
>> > > > > > most
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > us
>> > > > > > > > > > >> have
>> > > > > > > > > > >> 10+ game servers, and are pissed off because this
>> plugin
>> > > > > affects
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > hard
>> > > > > > > > > > >> work put into them.
>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Timothy L Havener <
>> > > > > > > > > > >> timotheus_have...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>

Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+

[Don Williams]

Just to add to this I've noticed the same thing after the update on 2
different servers nothing else has changed except for the update.  Gj valve!

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
molaugh...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 7:43 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making 26x+

It has been a problem about a week or two before the patch was issued. I'm  
uncertain as to why... Maybe Valve made a patch to VAC which caused certain

clients to have issues? Or there's a hacker that's targeting VAC?

I use a linksys router to connect to the Internet. Maybe NAT has something  
to do with it? Has anyone else experienced problems when they are connected

directly to their DSL/Cable modem?
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Re: [hlds] L4D max slots

[Don Williams]

To be honest I like it exactly how it is.  If I want more slots I'll run 
more servers with 6 servers full I was hitting maybe 2-3mb/s outbound 
traffic and 30% cpu usage.+
- Original Message - 
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To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 

Sent: 2008-11-18 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D max slots


> I'm sure that someone will find a way and then complain that the game
> isn't balanced.
>
> Craig Collinson wrote:
>> does it even support 12 ?
>>
>> 2008/11/18 Blake Hagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone know how to change the max slots for a server from 8 to 12? 
>>> I
>>> cant find it anywhere...
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Re: [hlds] L4D max slots

[Don Williams]

They always do.
- Original Message - 
From: "SakeFox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 

Sent: 2008-11-18 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D max slots


> I'm sure that someone will find a way and then complain that the game
> isn't balanced.
>
> Craig Collinson wrote:
>> does it even support 12 ?
>>
>> 2008/11/18 Blake Hagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone know how to change the max slots for a server from 8 to 12? 
>>> I
>>> cant find it anywhere...
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Re: [hlds] L4D max slots

[Don Williams]

155 vs 155 that's some win.
- Original Message - 
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To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 

Sent: 2008-11-18 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D max slots


> here we go LOL!
>
> 33 vs 33 Please !!
>
> Only kidding!
>
> On 11/18/08, Craig Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> does it even support 12 ?
>>
>> 2008/11/18 Blake Hagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>> > Does anyone know how to change the max slots for a server from 8 to 12? 
>> > I
>> > cant find it anywhere...
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Re: [hlds] L4D max slots

[Don Williams]

>From what I understand due to the AI and such it was limit to 8 max.
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Sent: 2008-11-18 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D max slots


> does it even support 12 ?
>
> 2008/11/18 Blake Hagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Does anyone know how to change the max slots for a server from 8 to 12? I
>> cant find it anywhere...
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Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking

[Don Williams]

why so srs?!
- Original Message - 
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To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" 

Sent: 2008-11-13 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking


> You can't be serious.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L. 
> Church
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:40 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking
>
> Personally, I think that if you open up your server to the public (and
> you are by listing on the lobby server), then your rights go out the
> window as far as you never being kicked or choosing what things get
> voted on.
>
> I think this would be a step backwards as abusive admins can just sit
> and wait for people to join up, grief them until they leave, then wait
> for them to rejoin.
>
> Valve, please don't do this.
>
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Re: [hlds] Status

[Don Williams]

In all honesty I love the match making system.. Servers remain full no 
matter what..  I can always find a way to get to my server and so can my 
players.  While some people disagree and want a server browser I like this 
idea 100x better. Good job valve!
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To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server 
mailing list" 
Sent: 2008-11-10 2:08 PM
Subject: [hlds] Status


> First off, thanks to everyone for running servers for the demo. We knew 
> going into the release that we were going to need to figure out some ways 
> to make it worth it for server administrators, and now we have a ton of 
> feedback to work with.
>
> Right now we're looking at ways that server administrators can both build 
> a community around their game server (by subscribing to matchmaking) as 
> well as service their group of "regulars" that play on their server. 
> Hooking game servers into Steam Community is going to be our first step, 
> and we're working on that now.
>
> There is a key difference between Left 4 Dead and games like 
> Counter-Strike and Team Fortress in terms of matchmaking that we wanted to 
> solve, and didn't think the server browser could accomplish. In CS and 
> TF2, you can have 2 or 3 players leave in the middle of a game, have their 
> slots filled by new people, and everyone else's experience doesn't 
> completely suffer. When a player or two leaves Left 4 Dead the game 
> suffers quite a bit, and we were worried that the server browser model 
> wasn't the right one for this game. In hindsight, there are a number of 
> cases where the server browser does a better job than the new matchmaking 
> system does, so it is highly likely that we'll be adding it back in soon. 
> It isn't trivially easy to turn back on, but there is overlap between it 
> and the Steam Community work we'd like to do.
>
> Right now we're working toward getting that release out within a week or 
> so.
>
> There are a number of Valve employees reading all of the posts on this 
> list, and while we can't reply to every question that comes across, the 
> discussions here are ones we reference commonly when talking about what to 
> do next internally.
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)

[Don Williams]

Will do.
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To: 
Sent: 2008-11-07 11:06 AM
Subject: [hlds] (no subject)


can you please add this email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [hlds] L4D Win32 Dedicated Servers Updated

[Don Williams]

working now yeah yeah insto full.
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Sent: 2008-11-06 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Win32 Dedicated Servers Updated


> Looks like its working like a charm now!
>
> Cheers
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:17 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: [hlds] L4D Win32 Dedicated Servers Updated
>
> Yet another Left 4 Dead Demo Win32 Dedicated Server update has been
> released.  Run hldsupdatetool to receive it, and you should see your 
> server
> working.
>
> Jason
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers

[Don Williams]

I see the unable to load steam library message but I do connect to VAC and 
all and 10fps is FAIL!
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To: 
Sent: 2008-11-06 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers



O_o

fps is at 10!?

yikes> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:56:47 +> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated 
servers> > 10 while empty.> > And yeah, valve policy now (apparently) 
dictates that we can't join our > own servers.> > Chris Brunelle wrote:> > 
I'm curious, what's your FPS sitting at in console?> >> > I don't think we 
can connect directly.yet.> >> > -Original Message-> > From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian D'Arcy> > 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:50 AM> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 
server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers> >> 
 > This update works! The server launches and runs properly.> >> > I'm still 
unable to connect directly to a server however. Client reports:> >> > Server 
using lobbies yes, requiring pw no, lobby id 0> > Connection to 
xx.xx.xx.xx:27015 failed, server requires lobby reservation> > but is 
unreserved.> >> > How can I connect to individual servers to ensure 
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers

[Don Williams]

Mine did decide to stay running but I got the steam library LAN mode only 
trash.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Staley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 

Sent: 2008-11-06 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers


> herm.. works for me.. whats your command line your using?
>
> All I get is the unable to load steam library error :(
>
>
> Brian D'Arcy wrote:
>> Still nothing on windows servers, just exits. :(
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Matt Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Another update just went out.
>>>
>>> Dustin Peacock wrote:
>>>
 The main problem I'm running to in-game is the fact that there aren't

>>> enough
>>>
 servers. It continues to tell me that there are no available dedicated
 servers and my only option is to host a LAN.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Sanger
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:54 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated servers


 Is there an option to start a server from within the game? If so, i'm

>>> going
>>>
 to guess that the only servers that are up are non-dedicated. People 
 are
 having a lot of lag problems, which might be caused by the fact that

>>> people
>>>
 probably don't have the power/pipe to run a server from home.

 Just a guess though


> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:47:08 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
>
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated
 servers> > Nope.. I assume there's files we're still missing. There ARE
 servers> running somewhere (probably at valve), I was able to play for 
 a

>>> few
>>>
 minutes> with a couple other people.> > The server browser shows no

>>> servers
>>>
 for l4d, however.> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Eric van Beesten
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > > Before anybody is screeming.. is

>>> there
>>>
 somebody that already have> > succesfull> > started the server? So with

>>> text
>>>
 etc?> >> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-> > Van:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Kitteny Berk> >
 Verzonden: donderdag 6 november 2008 16:27> > Aan: Half-Life dedicated

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>>>
 server mailing list> > Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead dedicated

>>> servers>
>>>
>>> I'm not so sure about that.> >> > connect IP:port seems to work in 
>>> the
>>>
 console, but as my server won't> > bloody start, I can't confirm.> >> >

>>> Matt
>>>
 Lyons wrote:> > > Brian D'Arcy wrote:> > >> > >> Same, srcds.exe just

>>> exits
>>>
 with nothing.> > >>> > >>> > >> > > Same, win2k boxes, left4dead.exe 
 dies
 with an error:> > >> > > Application load error: 5:0065434> > >> > 
  >
 srcds.exe just exits with no error, log or dump.> > >> > > Err... you 
 did
 release everything right?> > >> > > In other news there are servers up

>>> and
>>>
 it appears you cannot connect to> > > a specific server :(> > >> > >> 
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server updated

[Don Williams]

Unable to load Steam library too.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Ruymen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server 
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Sent: 2008-11-06 11:13 AM
Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server updated


>A small fix for the Linux and Win32 L4D Demo Dedicated Servers have been 
>released.  Please run hldsupdatetool (with either the game parameter of 
>l4d_demo, or left4dead) to get the new files.  This should allow dedicated 
>servers to run.
>
> Jason
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Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server updated

[Don Williams]

Still shows LAN modem can not authenticate etc.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Ruymen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server 
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Sent: 2008-11-06 11:13 AM
Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server updated


>A small fix for the Linux and Win32 L4D Demo Dedicated Servers have been 
>released.  Please run hldsupdatetool (with either the game parameter of 
>l4d_demo, or left4dead) to get the new files.  This should allow dedicated 
>servers to run.
>
> Jason
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