Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

2006-03-29 Thread RaynServ
 monitored medium ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook
 Sent: 29 March 2006 03:37
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

 Think about it - some jerk on my server irritates me. I post all over the
 Internet that I'm offering his account for sale. Valve disables his
 account.

 Better yet, I don't like my cousin , so since he is my cousin I know his
 name, address, and phone number. I advertise that I have his account for
 sale, posting his name, address, and phone number. Valve sees this and
 disables his account.

 Bad practice. Very bad practice. Leads to lawsuits. I would like to think
 that they are smart enough not to disable an account without exercising
 due
 diligence to ensure they are legitimately disableing the account. BTW, One
 day someone is going to launch a class action lawsuit against Valve for
 disabled accounts (back in the early days of VAC when false bans were
 common, I'm surprised this did not happen). When it does, Valve will throw
 a
 lot of money at their attack lawyers and win the case, but I digress.

 He got his account disabled because he or his kids loaded up a cheat, he
 tried to sell it in such a manner that Valve was able to positively
 identify
 that it was his account he was selling, or he otherwise did something
 stupid
 enough to get his account disabled. He didn't get it disabled for anything
 he posted to this list.



 - Original Message -
 From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:28 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Disabled Account


  They disabled his account because he offered it for sale.
 
  End of.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Harrison
  Sent: 29 March 2006 00:20
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account
 
  Firstly, noone here cares.
 
  Secondly, I think Valve have better things to do that disable the
  accounts of every person that says something bad about them. They'd run
  out of time to do other useful things like go to the bathroom, eat, etc.
 
  Thirdly, maybe you should try going through the official support process
  to get an actual reason before filling up a public mailing list with
  your childish diatribe.
 
  Please stop posting here until you have some evidence of your claims -
  you're just making it harder for people to actually use this list.
 
  Thanks,
  -- david
 
   Original Message 
  From: RaynServ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account
 
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  I crown the JADED award to you. If you'd been here for more than 6
  months you'd know EXACTLY what complained about originally. Instead
  you flame for the sake of flaming. Hope your kind don't pro-create
  wherever you're from.
 
  Rayne
 
 
 
  On 3/28/06, Hell Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thank god.  Good bye.  Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.
 
  RaynServ wrote:
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  wowI think the word I'm looking for here is jaded.
 
  Nothing else to say, I've said it all and I'm donedo with the
  information as you will.
 
  Rayne
 
 
 
  On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  Where the hell does it say ANYTHING about cheating???
  You're so gungho about it being due to cheating that you must have
  used them
  Why else would you think it is about cheats?
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: RaynServ
  Date: 03/28/06 16:17:04
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account
 
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  Then tell me genius. Explain this
  www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG. That message isn't for
  downloading one of the hundreds of hacks for this game. It's an
  administrative lock on the account with no specific reason and/or
  notification. But hey, it's their shit and if they want to kill it
  then let
  it die I guess. But the cheap shit they pulled on me for voicing my
  ACCURATE
  opinions on this list of theirs is the ONLY possible explanation.
 
  Rayne
 
 
 
  On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  They don't disable for opinions! Get it through your thick skull.
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: RaynServ
  Date: 03/28/06 16:08:40
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account
 
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  www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG
 
  With NEVER touching this game other than playing with clients for
  the
 
  last
 
  year or so and running a clan prior to that the ONLY reason it
  could've been
  disabled would be from my comments

Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

2006-03-29 Thread Graham Robinson
IMHO I was hoping that this was the reason that his account was banned
and thought that it was disgusting that it was put into a mailing
list.

Flame over.

On 29/03/06, RaynServ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 After getting a call from their Washington police department for a
 threatening communications in attempting to get their home addresses this
 subject is dropped.

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Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

2006-03-29 Thread evo
 attachment to the game I loved but more of enjoying the community that
 surrounded me. The ENVIRONMENT kept me here long after the fad of the
 software had passed.

 Goodbye gentlemen, and ladies,

 Ray S. / Rayne / RayneOfDeath / RaynServ


 On 3/29/06, Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 True. They must've been able to positively identify that he was the
 account
 owner.  The idea that it was disabled because of opinions that were
 posted
 on this list is as stupid as offering your account for sale through a
 valve
 monitored medium ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook
 Sent: 29 March 2006 03:37
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

 Think about it - some jerk on my server irritates me. I post all over
 the
 Internet that I'm offering his account for sale. Valve disables his
 account.

 Better yet, I don't like my cousin , so since he is my cousin I know his
 name, address, and phone number. I advertise that I have his account for
 sale, posting his name, address, and phone number. Valve sees this and
 disables his account.

 Bad practice. Very bad practice. Leads to lawsuits. I would like to
 think
 that they are smart enough not to disable an account without exercising
 due
 diligence to ensure they are legitimately disableing the account. BTW,
 One
 day someone is going to launch a class action lawsuit against Valve for
 disabled accounts (back in the early days of VAC when false bans were
 common, I'm surprised this did not happen). When it does, Valve will
 throw
 a
 lot of money at their attack lawyers and win the case, but I digress.

 He got his account disabled because he or his kids loaded up a cheat, he
 tried to sell it in such a manner that Valve was able to positively
 identify
 that it was his account he was selling, or he otherwise did something
 stupid
 enough to get his account disabled. He didn't get it disabled for
 anything
 he posted to this list.



 - Original Message -
 From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:28 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Disabled Account


  They disabled his account because he offered it for sale.
 
  End of.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Harrison
  Sent: 29 March 2006 00:20
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account
 
  Firstly, noone here cares.
 
  Secondly, I think Valve have better things to do that disable the
  accounts of every person that says something bad about them. They'd
 run
  out of time to do other useful things like go to the bathroom, eat,
 etc.
 
  Thirdly, maybe you should try going through the official support
 process
  to get an actual reason before filling up a public mailing list with
  your childish diatribe.
 
  Please stop posting here until you have some evidence of your claims -
  you're just making it harder for people to actually use this list.
 
  Thanks,
  -- david
 
   Original Message 
  From: RaynServ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  I crown the JADED award to you. If you'd been here for more than 6
  months you'd know EXACTLY what complained about originally. Instead
  you flame for the sake of flaming. Hope your kind don't pro-create
  wherever you're from.
 
  Rayne
 
 
 
  On 3/28/06, Hell Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thank god.  Good bye.  Dont let the door hit your ass on the way
 out.
 
  RaynServ wrote:
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  wowI think the word I'm looking for here is jaded.
 
  Nothing else to say, I've said it all and I'm donedo with the
  information as you will.
 
  Rayne
 
 
 
  On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  Where the hell does it say ANYTHING about cheating???
  You're so gungho about it being due to cheating that you must have
  used them
  Why else would you think it is about cheats?
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: RaynServ
  Date: 03/28/06 16:17:04
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Then tell me genius. Explain this
  www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG. That message isn't for
  downloading one of the hundreds of hacks for this game. It's an
  administrative lock on the account with no specific reason
 and/or
  notification. But hey, it's their shit and if they want to kill it
  then let
  it die I guess. But the cheap shit they pulled on me for voicing
 my
  ACCURATE
  opinions on this list of theirs is the ONLY possible explanation.
 
  Rayne
 
 
 
  On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

2006-03-28 Thread Ook

Think about it - some jerk on my server irritates me. I post all over the
Internet that I'm offering his account for sale. Valve disables his account.

Better yet, I don't like my cousin , so since he is my cousin I know his
name, address, and phone number. I advertise that I have his account for
sale, posting his name, address, and phone number. Valve sees this and
disables his account.

Bad practice. Very bad practice. Leads to lawsuits. I would like to think
that they are smart enough not to disable an account without exercising due
diligence to ensure they are legitimately disableing the account. BTW, One
day someone is going to launch a class action lawsuit against Valve for
disabled accounts (back in the early days of VAC when false bans were
common, I'm surprised this did not happen). When it does, Valve will throw a
lot of money at their attack lawyers and win the case, but I digress.

He got his account disabled because he or his kids loaded up a cheat, he
tried to sell it in such a manner that Valve was able to positively identify
that it was his account he was selling, or he otherwise did something stupid
enough to get his account disabled. He didn't get it disabled for anything
he posted to this list.



- Original Message -
From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Disabled Account



They disabled his account because he offered it for sale.

End of.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Harrison
Sent: 29 March 2006 00:20
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account

Firstly, noone here cares.

Secondly, I think Valve have better things to do that disable the
accounts of every person that says something bad about them. They'd run
out of time to do other useful things like go to the bathroom, eat, etc.

Thirdly, maybe you should try going through the official support process
to get an actual reason before filling up a public mailing list with
your childish diatribe.

Please stop posting here until you have some evidence of your claims -
you're just making it harder for people to actually use this list.

Thanks,
-- david

 Original Message 
From: RaynServ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account


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I crown the JADED award to you. If you'd been here for more than 6
months you'd know EXACTLY what complained about originally. Instead
you flame for the sake of flaming. Hope your kind don't pro-create
wherever you're from.

Rayne



On 3/28/06, Hell Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank god.  Good bye.  Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.

RaynServ wrote:

--
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wowI think the word I'm looking for here is jaded.

Nothing else to say, I've said it all and I'm donedo with the
information as you will.

Rayne



On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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Where the hell does it say ANYTHING about cheating???
You're so gungho about it being due to cheating that you must have
used them
Why else would you think it is about cheats?

---Original Message---

From: RaynServ
Date: 03/28/06 16:17:04
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account

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Then tell me genius. Explain this
www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG. That message isn't for
downloading one of the hundreds of hacks for this game. It's an
administrative lock on the account with no specific reason and/or
notification. But hey, it's their shit and if they want to kill it
then let
it die I guess. But the cheap shit they pulled on me for voicing my
ACCURATE
opinions on this list of theirs is the ONLY possible explanation.

Rayne



On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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They don't disable for opinions! Get it through your thick skull.

---Original Message---

From: RaynServ
Date: 03/28/06 16:08:40
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account

--
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www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG

With NEVER touching this game other than playing with clients for
the


last


year or so and running a clan prior to that the ONLY reason it
could've been
disabled would be from my comments on their list. Anybody getting


feelings


of little Russia here?

Rayne


On 3/28/06, [GS]-BeNt- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please tell me this isn't true...

- Original Message -
From: RaynServ [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Note to the community:

DON'T speak out about Valve or their fucked up practices with
us as


their


labrats.

They disabled my STEAM account for voicing their consistently


degrading


quality since they've taken 

RE: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

2006-03-28 Thread Ben Elvin
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
True. They must've been able to positively identify that he was the account
owner.  The idea that it was disabled because of opinions that were posted
on this list is as stupid as offering your account for sale through a valve
monitored medium ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook
Sent: 29 March 2006 03:37
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Disabled Account

Think about it - some jerk on my server irritates me. I post all over the
Internet that I'm offering his account for sale. Valve disables his account.

Better yet, I don't like my cousin , so since he is my cousin I know his
name, address, and phone number. I advertise that I have his account for
sale, posting his name, address, and phone number. Valve sees this and
disables his account.

Bad practice. Very bad practice. Leads to lawsuits. I would like to think
that they are smart enough not to disable an account without exercising due
diligence to ensure they are legitimately disableing the account. BTW, One
day someone is going to launch a class action lawsuit against Valve for
disabled accounts (back in the early days of VAC when false bans were
common, I'm surprised this did not happen). When it does, Valve will throw a
lot of money at their attack lawyers and win the case, but I digress.

He got his account disabled because he or his kids loaded up a cheat, he
tried to sell it in such a manner that Valve was able to positively identify
that it was his account he was selling, or he otherwise did something stupid
enough to get his account disabled. He didn't get it disabled for anything
he posted to this list.



- Original Message -
From: Ben Elvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Disabled Account


 They disabled his account because he offered it for sale.

 End of.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Harrison
 Sent: 29 March 2006 00:20
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account

 Firstly, noone here cares.

 Secondly, I think Valve have better things to do that disable the
 accounts of every person that says something bad about them. They'd run
 out of time to do other useful things like go to the bathroom, eat, etc.

 Thirdly, maybe you should try going through the official support process
 to get an actual reason before filling up a public mailing list with
 your childish diatribe.

 Please stop posting here until you have some evidence of your claims -
 you're just making it harder for people to actually use this list.

 Thanks,
 -- david

  Original Message 
 From: RaynServ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 I crown the JADED award to you. If you'd been here for more than 6
 months you'd know EXACTLY what complained about originally. Instead
 you flame for the sake of flaming. Hope your kind don't pro-create
 wherever you're from.

 Rayne



 On 3/28/06, Hell Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank god.  Good bye.  Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.

 RaynServ wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 wowI think the word I'm looking for here is jaded.

 Nothing else to say, I've said it all and I'm donedo with the
 information as you will.

 Rayne



 On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Where the hell does it say ANYTHING about cheating???
 You're so gungho about it being due to cheating that you must have
 used them
 Why else would you think it is about cheats?

 ---Original Message---

 From: RaynServ
 Date: 03/28/06 16:17:04
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Then tell me genius. Explain this
 www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG. That message isn't for
 downloading one of the hundreds of hacks for this game. It's an
 administrative lock on the account with no specific reason and/or
 notification. But hey, it's their shit and if they want to kill it
 then let
 it die I guess. But the cheap shit they pulled on me for voicing my
 ACCURATE
 opinions on this list of theirs is the ONLY possible explanation.

 Rayne



 On 3/28/06, DL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 They don't disable for opinions! Get it through your thick skull.

 ---Original Message---

 From: RaynServ
 Date: 03/28/06 16:08:40
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Disabled Account

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 www.raynserv.com/file/disabled.JPG

 With NEVER touching this game other than playing with clients