Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Left 4 Dead -Matchmaking - please bring back the server list

2008-11-06 Thread [ЯтR] The-/
Also to note for consoles, sure go ahead this is a proven way to do 
online games, but for PC gaming don't abandon us VALVe. Please!

Steven Hartland wrote:
> Why oh why drop the server browser?
>
> Forgive me, but that sounds like a console port which is a massive
> step back. It eliminates any incentive GSP's like ourselves have to
> run servers as there is no promotion point.
>
> Yes there's MOTD with a banner, but that only displays to players
> joining the server, and as we have no control or even influence over
> the joining process, it makes it almost pointless.
>
> An analogy to this would be to start a new TV channel that you
> couldn't advertise and there was no channel list, only if a viewer
> happened to switch to your channel would they watch. On one
> would create channels if this where the case would they?
>
> Match making systems by their very design prevent real communities,
> and will never have the flexibility provided by a standard server
> list. Look at the longevity of Sven Coop, do you think that would
> have lasted this long had their been no community, absolutely not!
>
> Add a match making component to complement the server list yes,
> but remove it absolutely not! You simply loose too many key features:-
> * Joining communities you know from existing games due to recognising
> them by their server name in the list
> * Custom server identification
> * Brand promotion for GSP's, Companies and Clans
> * Removes GSP's incentive to run servers, no promotion point
> * Match making doesn't suite everyone, picks unsuitable servers.
>
> Regards
> Steve
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eric Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>   
>> Left 4 Dead will use the new matchmaking system we've been working on.
>>
>> The new matchmaking system replaces the traditional server browser.  By 
>> running a public dedicated server your server will be 
>> added to a list of servers available for clients to use when playing.  Games 
>> are started from a Game Lobby by clients, who are 
>> then connected to a dedicated server when they start the game.  When they're 
>> done, your server is added back to the list of 
>> available servers.  Clients will be able to "Quick Match", "Play Online", 
>> and "Play With Friends" when they want to play a game.
>>
>> You will still have access to the traditional Message of the Day for your 
>> server.  For Left 4 Dead, we've added a banner ad you 
>> can create that will be displayed to clients when they're playing on your 
>> server.  There is also a ranking system to show the 
>> popularity of your server.
>>
>> This is the first version of what we've been working on, and we're going to 
>> want feedback from all of you once things start 
>> turning up tomorrow.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Left 4 Dead -Matchmaking - please bring back the server list

2008-11-06 Thread Steven Hartland
Why oh why drop the server browser?

Forgive me, but that sounds like a console port which is a massive
step back. It eliminates any incentive GSP's like ourselves have to
run servers as there is no promotion point.

Yes there's MOTD with a banner, but that only displays to players
joining the server, and as we have no control or even influence over
the joining process, it makes it almost pointless.

An analogy to this would be to start a new TV channel that you
couldn't advertise and there was no channel list, only if a viewer
happened to switch to your channel would they watch. On one
would create channels if this where the case would they?

Match making systems by their very design prevent real communities,
and will never have the flexibility provided by a standard server
list. Look at the longevity of Sven Coop, do you think that would
have lasted this long had their been no community, absolutely not!

Add a match making component to complement the server list yes,
but remove it absolutely not! You simply loose too many key features:-
* Joining communities you know from existing games due to recognising
them by their server name in the list
* Custom server identification
* Brand promotion for GSP's, Companies and Clans
* Removes GSP's incentive to run servers, no promotion point
* Match making doesn't suite everyone, picks unsuitable servers.

Regards
Steve

- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Left 4 Dead will use the new matchmaking system we've been working on.
>
> The new matchmaking system replaces the traditional server browser.  By 
> running a public dedicated server your server will be 
> added to a list of servers available for clients to use when playing.  Games 
> are started from a Game Lobby by clients, who are 
> then connected to a dedicated server when they start the game.  When they're 
> done, your server is added back to the list of 
> available servers.  Clients will be able to "Quick Match", "Play Online", and 
> "Play With Friends" when they want to play a game.
>
> You will still have access to the traditional Message of the Day for your 
> server.  For Left 4 Dead, we've added a banner ad you 
> can create that will be displayed to clients when they're playing on your 
> server.  There is also a ranking system to show the 
> popularity of your server.
>
> This is the first version of what we've been working on, and we're going to 
> want feedback from all of you once things start 
> turning up tomorrow.
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
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