RE: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
All servers are currently running a test of the VAC2 code (in particular the new connection subsystem). We are currently debugging a problem where a small number of users (a few percent) are not able to log into the new system. Until we find and fix the problem a wider rollout of more VAC2 specific functionality is not possible. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:43 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers wierd dejavu there ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
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RE: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
"are we" = "as we", coffee hasn't kicked in yet. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:39 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers We will be ramping up the number of secure servers as we finish various testing phases. As said previously, more details will be provided to this list are we extend the scope of testing. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renzo Rosales Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:29 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers Alpha is in-house testing, beta is public testing. Don't you think it's better to test on a small amount of servers (since beta is usually limited to a certain amount of testers) and work out any kinks VAC2 may have? Once the developers feel the system is ready, they will release it and hopefully it will catch all the bad players out there and teach em right from wrong. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
We will be ramping up the number of secure servers as we finish various testing phases. As said previously, more details will be provided to this list are we extend the scope of testing. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renzo Rosales Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:29 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers Alpha is in-house testing, beta is public testing. Don't you think it's better to test on a small amount of servers (since beta is usually limited to a certain amount of testers) and work out any kinks VAC2 may have? Once the developers feel the system is ready, they will release it and hopefully it will catch all the bad players out there and teach em right from wrong. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
Alpha is in-house testing, beta is public testing. Don't you think it's better to test on a small amount of servers (since beta is usually limited to a certain amount of testers) and work out any kinks VAC2 may have? Once the developers feel the system is ready, they will release it and hopefully it will catch all the bad players out there and teach em right from wrong. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
Moan Moan Moan. Seeing as the options to be VAC secure haven't been released and Alfred has already commented on list and on forum about it being a glitch that it showed as secure, and steambans said that VAC is being tested on servers that don't actually show as secure... maybe you should wait a little longer before complaining. > Last time I checked a "beta test" was to include more then just one group. > Its distributed to multiple platforms to test various server configurations. > This is done to ensure that MOST of the bugs are worked out and the software > is stable across multiple platforms. I think back to the days of steam > beta.gee that wasn't an exclusive beta test. Not one SOLE group, but > multiple groups. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
I thought the beta testing was collecting data from many many servers(clients?), but when the server shows up as VAC secure; it will have VAC acctivated and ready to ban? Sounded like that to me atleast... As usual I might be wrong. Maybe those servers you found was the first three to go into the next stage of the testing, as Alfred informed about? -Alexander -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of StealthMode Sent: 26. april 2005 08:40 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I got curious last night and decided I wanted to find out what servers are part of the esteemed "beta test" for VAC2. What I have found left me speechless for a few hours to say the least.. Only one set of servers has vac2 that I can see.These servers are all identified with The-Space as the first part of their title. 3 of them to be exact. 66.93.87.42:27015 66.93.87.41:27015 66.81.7.226:27015 And NONE of them are central or east. Get this ALL west. I did a trace. Apparently these are all speakeasy.net ips. Now I know that Seattle is where Valve headquarters are/is (The ips traced to seattle Washington speakeasy.net), however to my knowledge they are not "The-Space". One can only wonder who this server owner sucked off to get to be part of this "exclusive" beta test. Bet odds its someone who curries favor with the vac2 developers. I mean how does one get to say exclusively.I run the only anticheat for this game, no other server in the world can say that. Is that fair to the community in general? Not in my opinion. They said it started logging already. But logging only 3 servers out of how many? I bet the logs are about 100k in size. Couldn't be any larger, those servers don't get much traffic. I know I've been watching them since I discovered there existence. And one can only wonder how many servers will crash with vac2 because of the sole server group being used as a test pool. I can only wonder at the incompetence of this. Is Valve prepared for catastrophe on "live day"? You only have to do the math to draw the same conclusion I did. 1,000s of servers + 1,000s of server configurations x 5 or 6 (types of operating systems) = good odds live day will be a disaster testing on only one server pool with the same exact server configuration. Last time I checked a "beta test" was to include more then just one group. Its distributed to multiple platforms to test various server configurations. This is done to ensure that MOST of the bugs are worked out and the software is stable across multiple platforms. I think back to the days of steam beta.gee that wasn't an exclusive beta test. Not one SOLE group, but multiple groups. Last time I checked tests were not done on one small group out of 1,000s of server operators out there. Think we may shutdown our 2.0 servers and replace them with BattleField2 servers come june. More money to be made in a game that doesn't discriminate against its customers. Their anticheat is tested across a broad number of platforms before being rolled out not just one groups. To you flamers that just want to say go play that other game then. I will. 8) -StealthMode -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] RANT: VAC2 servers....
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I got curious last night and decided I wanted to find out what servers are part of the esteemed "beta test" for VAC2. What I have found left me speechless for a few hours to say the least.. Only one set of servers has vac2 that I can see.These servers are all identified with The-Space as the first part of their title. 3 of them to be exact. 66.93.87.42:27015 66.93.87.41:27015 66.81.7.226:27015 And NONE of them are central or east. Get this ALL west. I did a trace. Apparently these are all speakeasy.net ips. Now I know that Seattle is where Valve headquarters are/is (The ips traced to seattle Washington speakeasy.net), however to my knowledge they are not "The-Space". One can only wonder who this server owner sucked off to get to be part of this "exclusive" beta test. Bet odds its someone who curries favor with the vac2 developers. I mean how does one get to say exclusively.I run the only anticheat for this game, no other server in the world can say that. Is that fair to the community in general? Not in my opinion. They said it started logging already. But logging only 3 servers out of how many? I bet the logs are about 100k in size. Couldn't be any larger, those servers don't get much traffic. I know I've been watching them since I discovered there existence. And one can only wonder how many servers will crash with vac2 because of the sole server group being used as a test pool. I can only wonder at the incompetence of this. Is Valve prepared for catastrophe on "live day"? You only have to do the math to draw the same conclusion I did. 1,000s of servers + 1,000s of server configurations x 5 or 6 (types of operating systems) = good odds live day will be a disaster testing on only one server pool with the same exact server configuration. Last time I checked a "beta test" was to include more then just one group. Its distributed to multiple platforms to test various server configurations. This is done to ensure that MOST of the bugs are worked out and the software is stable across multiple platforms. I think back to the days of steam beta.gee that wasn't an exclusive beta test. Not one SOLE group, but multiple groups. Last time I checked tests were not done on one small group out of 1,000s of server operators out there. Think we may shutdown our 2.0 servers and replace them with BattleField2 servers come june. More money to be made in a game that doesn't discriminate against its customers. Their anticheat is tested across a broad number of platforms before being rolled out not just one groups. To you flamers that just want to say go play that other game then. I will. 8) -StealthMode -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds