Re: [hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] When was this output of top "captured" ? When 4 servers where running? Then I cant see why you say it uses high cpu. 35% isn't enough for me. Did you try using another kernel? Which distro are you using. What are the commandline parameters? P.S: Simply hit reply when writing to this topic. Otherwise no reader can restore this as 1 thread. Please ;:) On 10/16/07, John Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Thanks Kyrios, didnt think of that. > > Just checked but sadly thats not the case :/ > > top - 18:40:04 up 7 days, 2:28, 1 user, load average: 1.09, 1.25, > 1.37 > Tasks: 60 total, 3 running, 57 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu0 : 34.7%us, 3.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 62.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, > 0.0%st > Cpu1 : 32.2%us, 3.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 62.5%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 1.3%si, > 0.0%st > Mem: 3767424k total, 3649044k used, 118380k free, 173088k buffers > Swap: 1518100k total,0k used, 1518100k free, 2784024k cached > > Thanks anyway for the suggestion. > > J > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Is that intendended: > 48.5%us, 4.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st > > This looks like all 4 Servers are running on only 1 of the cores. Press > "1" > in top to examine this. 4 Threads on one CPU doesn't sound like a very > good > idea. > > > > > - > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this > month. > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ... black holes are where god divided by zero. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks Kyrios, didnt think of that. Just checked but sadly thats not the case :/ top - 18:40:04 up 7 days, 2:28, 1 user, load average: 1.09, 1.25, 1.37 Tasks: 60 total, 3 running, 57 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu0 : 34.7%us, 3.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 62.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 32.2%us, 3.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 62.5%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 1.3%si, 0.0%st Mem: 3767424k total, 3649044k used, 118380k free, 173088k buffers Swap: 1518100k total,0k used, 1518100k free, 2784024k cached Thanks anyway for the suggestion. J -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is that intendended: 48.5%us, 4.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st This looks like all 4 Servers are running on only 1 of the cores. Press "1" in top to examine this. 4 Threads on one CPU doesn't sound like a very good idea. - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is that intendended: 48.5%us, 4.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st This looks like all 4 Servers are running on only 1 of the cores. Press "1" in top to examine this. 4 Threads on one CPU doesn't sound like a very good idea. On 10/13/07, John Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hi Chaps, > > A few weeks ago someone suggested compiling a low latency kernel, > tickless for high fps which we have progressed and done. > > My box is a dual xeon 2.6ghz, HT is turned off and just the two cpu's > are showing up. Its identical to my windows box in terms of hardware and > setup. > > On my windows box I have 3 TF2 Servers and 1 TFC server running, when > full task manager reports around 85% cpu usage and no fps related problems > (although similar cpu loads being reported). > > Yet on the linux box it drops to 10fps, now with 14 players its fine > > 21:39:53 CPU In Out > UptimeUsers FPS Players >45.00 35178.93 38394.59 210 4493.83 14 > > Soon as it hits 18+ it goes off the boat... > > 21:31:36 CPU InOutUptime Users FPSPlayers >83.33 48139.13 79145.84 202 3 11.23 19 > > 21:33:24 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >83.75 54450.20 113019.84 203 3 13.33 22 > > If you look at top you see its hammering the server. > > top - 21:36:51 up 5:25, 1 user, load average: 1.36, 1.27, 1.22 > Tasks: 60 total, 5 running, 55 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu(s): 48.5%us, 4.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.7%si, > 0.0%st > Mem: 3767424k total, 1097880k used, 2669544k free,44068k buffers > Swap: 1518100k total,0k used, 1518100k free, 628592k cached > > PID PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND > 12268 25 0 230m 169m 22m R 73 4.6 59:40.89 srcds_i486 > 12154 15 0 98300 70m 6592 R 19 1.9 33:39.28 hlds_i686 > 11989 15 0 77908 57m 6248 R9 1.6 25:21.40 hlds_i686 > 12323 15 0 207m 144m 22m S6 3.9 9:17.43 srcds_i486 > > This server is running 1 x TF2 22 man server 1 x TF2 20 man server 1 x > TFC 14 man server and 1 x TFC 20 man server. > > My windows box is running 1 x TFC 14 man server, 1 x TF2 20 man server, > 1 x TF2 18 man serverx 1 x TF2 18 man server. > > As you can see the CPU load, at the moment the fps dropped to 11fps the > box was hardly busy. > > At the same time this was my windows box > > 4:27025 > 21:44:20 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >53.85 52241.09 128488.64 39 0 441.99 19 > > .4:27035 > 21:45:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >48.46 53325.14 63532.80322869 261.63 18 > 21:45:29 stats > > .4:27045 > 21:46:23 CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers >55.86 48499.68 98046.574857 111 256.18 18 > > Short term im going to drop the linux servers down to 18 slots and up > the Windows ones a bit to see what effect taht has but I have another > windows server setup to 24 slots and it has no problems either... > > .129:27035 > 21:47:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >43.42 62050.84 105045.49 34 1 510.61 24 > > All 3 machines are dual xeon 2.6ghz with HT disabled. > > AS these are my public boxes I know nothing else is running on the > hardware at the same time and its not shared the only difference is > linux/Windows. > > I heard people talking about manually assinging the afinity, does that > make much of a difference? Or has anyone else found any other tricks? > > Much appreciated. > > John > > > > - > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this > month. > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ... black holes are where god divided by zero. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hmm you see the weird thing is, I know someone who says he is using Linux and has a dual xeon 1.8ghz and yet says he is running 3 TFC servers and 2 TF2 servers with no lag, although im investigating his setup in more detail I just thought I must be missing a trick. Has anyone managed to get TF2 running at a decent level on Linux? when I say decent I mean 18+ slots with more than one server running at any one time? I personally dont want to run 1 TF2 server on a dual xeon and nothing else :> PS Alfred suggested disabling HT, this worked on my Windows servers but not on Linux :/ however you do have a bit more processing power there so you might notice a bigger improvement :/ John John, manually setting affinity is going to nothing much... I see the same thing on my linux box which is dual 3.0 xeons With a full 24 person, which it is right now im looking at 80%cpu and 4.1mem... I have HT on, that's the only diff... Yet When I have 30 people in my BF2 server I don't see any higher than 35% CPU... Pulling stats while its full the fps bumps between 120 and 30... I'm running CentOS 4.3. This is nothing new to what I have seen. - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's what we see as well On identical hardware & OS we can run 4 x 24 player 66 tick 500 fps SRCDS OR 4 x 64 player BF2 Multiply that out a few times and you get a significant difference in overall player numbers for your organisation. On 10/14/07, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John, manually setting affinity is going to nothing much... I see the same > thing on my linux box which is dual 3.0 xeons With a full 24 person, > which it is right now im looking at 80%cpu and 4.1mem... I have HT on, > that's the only diff... Yet When I have 30 people in my BF2 server I don't > see any higher than 35% CPU... Pulling stats while its full the fps bumps > between 120 and 30... I'm running CentOS 4.3. This is nothing new to what > I > have seen. > > -Original Message- > From: John Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:32 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hi Chaps, > > A few weeks ago someone suggested compiling a low latency kernel, > tickless > for high fps which we have progressed and done. > > My box is a dual xeon 2.6ghz, HT is turned off and just the two cpu's > are > showing up. Its identical to my windows box in terms of hardware and > setup. > > On my windows box I have 3 TF2 Servers and 1 TFC server running, when > full > task manager reports around 85% cpu usage and no fps related problems > (although similar cpu loads being reported). > > Yet on the linux box it drops to 10fps, now with 14 players its fine > > 21:39:53 CPU In Out > UptimeUsers > FPS Players >45.00 35178.93 38394.59 210 4493.83 14 > > Soon as it hits 18+ it goes off the boat... > > 21:31:36 CPU InOutUptime Users FPSPlayers >83.33 48139.13 79145.84 202 3 11.23 19 > > 21:33:24 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >83.75 54450.20 113019.84 203 3 13.33 22 > > If you look at top you see its hammering the server. > > top - 21:36:51 up 5:25, 1 user, load average: 1.36, 1.27, 1.22 > Tasks: 60 total, 5 running, 55 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu(s): 48.5%us, 4.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.7%si, > 0.0%st > Mem: 3767424k total, 1097880k used, 2669544k free,44068k buffers > Swap: 1518100k total,0k used, 1518100k free, 628592k cached > > PID PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND > 12268 25 0 230m 169m 22m R 73 4.6 59:40.89 srcds_i486 > 12154 15 0 98300 70m 6592 R 19 1.9 33:39.28 hlds_i686 > 11989 15 0 77908 57m 6248 R9 1.6 25:21.40 hlds_i686 > 12323 15 0 207m 144m 22m S6 3.9 9:17.43 srcds_i486 > > This server is running 1 x TF2 22 man server 1 x TF2 20 man server 1 x > TFC > 14 man server and 1 x TFC 20 man server. > > My windows box is running 1 x TFC 14 man server, 1 x TF2 20 man server, > 1 > x TF2 18 man serverx 1 x TF2 18 man server. > > As you can see the CPU load, at the moment the fps dropped to 11fps the > box was hardly busy. > > At the same time this was my windows box > > 4:27025 > 21:44:20 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >53.85 52241.09 128488.64 39 0 441.99 19 > > .4:27035 > 21:45:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >48.46 53325.14 63532.80322869 261.63 18 > 21:45:29 stats > > .4:27045 > 21:46:23 CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers >55.86 48499.68 98046.574857 111 256.18 18 > > Short term im going to drop the linux servers down to 18 slots and up > the > Windows ones a bit to see what effect taht has but I have another windows > server setup to 24 slots and it has no problems either... > > .129:27035 > 21:47:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers >43.42 62050.84 105045.49 34 1 510.61 24 > > All 3 machines are dual xeon 2.6ghz with HT disabled. > > AS these are my public boxes I know nothing else is running on the > hardware at the same time and its not shared the only difference is > linux/Windows. > > I heard people talking about manually assinging the afinity, does that > make much of a difference? Or has anyone else found any other tricks? &g
RE: [hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu
John, manually setting affinity is going to nothing much... I see the same thing on my linux box which is dual 3.0 xeons With a full 24 person, which it is right now im looking at 80%cpu and 4.1mem... I have HT on, that's the only diff... Yet When I have 30 people in my BF2 server I don't see any higher than 35% CPU... Pulling stats while its full the fps bumps between 120 and 30... I'm running CentOS 4.3. This is nothing new to what I have seen. -Original Message- From: John Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:32 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Chaps, A few weeks ago someone suggested compiling a low latency kernel, tickless for high fps which we have progressed and done. My box is a dual xeon 2.6ghz, HT is turned off and just the two cpu's are showing up. Its identical to my windows box in terms of hardware and setup. On my windows box I have 3 TF2 Servers and 1 TFC server running, when full task manager reports around 85% cpu usage and no fps related problems (although similar cpu loads being reported). Yet on the linux box it drops to 10fps, now with 14 players its fine 21:39:53 CPU In Out UptimeUsers FPS Players 45.00 35178.93 38394.59 210 4493.83 14 Soon as it hits 18+ it goes off the boat... 21:31:36 CPU InOutUptime Users FPSPlayers 83.33 48139.13 79145.84 202 3 11.23 19 21:33:24 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 83.75 54450.20 113019.84 203 3 13.33 22 If you look at top you see its hammering the server. top - 21:36:51 up 5:25, 1 user, load average: 1.36, 1.27, 1.22 Tasks: 60 total, 5 running, 55 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 48.5%us, 4.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st Mem: 3767424k total, 1097880k used, 2669544k free,44068k buffers Swap: 1518100k total,0k used, 1518100k free, 628592k cached PID PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 12268 25 0 230m 169m 22m R 73 4.6 59:40.89 srcds_i486 12154 15 0 98300 70m 6592 R 19 1.9 33:39.28 hlds_i686 11989 15 0 77908 57m 6248 R9 1.6 25:21.40 hlds_i686 12323 15 0 207m 144m 22m S6 3.9 9:17.43 srcds_i486 This server is running 1 x TF2 22 man server 1 x TF2 20 man server 1 x TFC 14 man server and 1 x TFC 20 man server. My windows box is running 1 x TFC 14 man server, 1 x TF2 20 man server, 1 x TF2 18 man serverx 1 x TF2 18 man server. As you can see the CPU load, at the moment the fps dropped to 11fps the box was hardly busy. At the same time this was my windows box 4:27025 21:44:20 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 53.85 52241.09 128488.64 39 0 441.99 19 .4:27035 21:45:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 48.46 53325.14 63532.80322869 261.63 18 21:45:29 stats .4:27045 21:46:23 CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 55.86 48499.68 98046.574857 111 256.18 18 Short term im going to drop the linux servers down to 18 slots and up the Windows ones a bit to see what effect taht has but I have another windows server setup to 24 slots and it has no problems either... .129:27035 21:47:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 43.42 62050.84 105045.49 34 1 510.61 24 All 3 machines are dual xeon 2.6ghz with HT disabled. AS these are my public boxes I know nothing else is running on the hardware at the same time and its not shared the only difference is linux/Windows. I heard people talking about manually assinging the afinity, does that make much of a difference? Or has anyone else found any other tricks? Much appreciated. John - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Still suffering linux related low fps high cpu
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Chaps, A few weeks ago someone suggested compiling a low latency kernel, tickless for high fps which we have progressed and done. My box is a dual xeon 2.6ghz, HT is turned off and just the two cpu's are showing up. Its identical to my windows box in terms of hardware and setup. On my windows box I have 3 TF2 Servers and 1 TFC server running, when full task manager reports around 85% cpu usage and no fps related problems (although similar cpu loads being reported). Yet on the linux box it drops to 10fps, now with 14 players its fine 21:39:53 CPU In Out UptimeUsers FPS Players 45.00 35178.93 38394.59 210 4493.83 14 Soon as it hits 18+ it goes off the boat... 21:31:36 CPU InOutUptime Users FPSPlayers 83.33 48139.13 79145.84 202 3 11.23 19 21:33:24 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 83.75 54450.20 113019.84 203 3 13.33 22 If you look at top you see its hammering the server. top - 21:36:51 up 5:25, 1 user, load average: 1.36, 1.27, 1.22 Tasks: 60 total, 5 running, 55 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 48.5%us, 4.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st Mem: 3767424k total, 1097880k used, 2669544k free,44068k buffers Swap: 1518100k total,0k used, 1518100k free, 628592k cached PID PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 12268 25 0 230m 169m 22m R 73 4.6 59:40.89 srcds_i486 12154 15 0 98300 70m 6592 R 19 1.9 33:39.28 hlds_i686 11989 15 0 77908 57m 6248 R9 1.6 25:21.40 hlds_i686 12323 15 0 207m 144m 22m S6 3.9 9:17.43 srcds_i486 This server is running 1 x TF2 22 man server 1 x TF2 20 man server 1 x TFC 14 man server and 1 x TFC 20 man server. My windows box is running 1 x TFC 14 man server, 1 x TF2 20 man server, 1 x TF2 18 man serverx 1 x TF2 18 man server. As you can see the CPU load, at the moment the fps dropped to 11fps the box was hardly busy. At the same time this was my windows box 4:27025 21:44:20 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 53.85 52241.09 128488.64 39 0 441.99 19 .4:27035 21:45:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 48.46 53325.14 63532.80322869 261.63 18 21:45:29 stats .4:27045 21:46:23 CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 55.86 48499.68 98046.574857 111 256.18 18 Short term im going to drop the linux servers down to 18 slots and up the Windows ones a bit to see what effect taht has but I have another windows server setup to 24 slots and it has no problems either... .129:27035 21:47:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPSPlayers 43.42 62050.84 105045.49 34 1 510.61 24 All 3 machines are dual xeon 2.6ghz with HT disabled. AS these are my public boxes I know nothing else is running on the hardware at the same time and its not shared the only difference is linux/Windows. I heard people talking about manually assinging the afinity, does that make much of a difference? Or has anyone else found any other tricks? Much appreciated. John - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
