[hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
hey guys i was just wondering if any of you knew of a plugin i could use to force client rates to something sensible. The reason i want this is recently i have seen a rise in players using ridiculously low rates on my server. I can't use matties event scripts on it because it crashes it :( and all the plugins i have found require that. Anyone know of a way or plugin that does it without the need for matties? cheers guys ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
Not 100% but I think SourceMM (http://www.sourcemm.net/) has a mod to allow this. Take a look at the forums here.. (http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/index.php) Hope that helps.. BoN - Original Message - From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties hey guys i was just wondering if any of you knew of a plugin i could use to force client rates to something sensible. The reason i want this is recently i have seen a rise in players using ridiculously low rates on my server. I can't use matties event scripts on it because it crashes it :( and all the plugins i have found require that. Anyone know of a way or plugin that does it without the need for matties? cheers guys ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Beetles admin mod has some functionality for this //Bm_AdjustRates 0/1/2 1 Automatically Adjust Players Rates, 2 Give Player Choice To Adjust Rates 0 disable //bm_CmdRateMatch 1/0 set cl_cmdrate to match cl_updaterate if bm_adjustrates is on //if bm_adjustrates 1 then server will check rates and set them on each client if any is outside the mins and maxs set via //sv_minrate,sv_maxrate,sv_minupdaterate, sv_maxupdaterate //if someones rate is lower than sv_minrate it will set it at minrate, if higher than sv_maxrate it will set it at sv_maxrate //if cl_updaterate is lower than sv_minupdaterate then its set to sv_minupdaterate , same for higher //and if vm_cmdratematch is 1 then cl_cmdrate is set equal to cl_updaterate //Bm_SetDefaultRates cmdupdaterate cmdrate rate Bm_SetDefaultRates 20 20 if bm_adjustrates = 3 Bm_AdjustRates 0 bm_CmdRateMatch 1 The only thing I don't like about it is forcing the cmdrate to match the updaterate since it is different by defualt. But at least it is something. This is of course assuming you are running a source game such as cs:s or dod:s. http://www.beetlesmod.com/forums/ On 5/23/06, BoNfiRe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not 100% but I think SourceMM (http://www.sourcemm.net/) has a mod to allow this. Take a look at the forums here.. ( http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/index.php) Hope that helps.. BoN - Original Message - From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties hey guys i was just wondering if any of you knew of a plugin i could use to force client rates to something sensible. The reason i want this is recently i have seen a rise in players using ridiculously low rates on my server. I can't use matties event scripts on it because it crashes it :( and all the plugins i have found require that. Anyone know of a way or plugin that does it without the need for matties? cheers guys ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
cheers for tips guys but i'm already running mani (sorry shoulda said earlier). i know he is a member of this list so mebbe he knows of something that will work. of course, if there is a stand alone one that works kinda like zblock that would be better for me. Speaking of which i was wondering if the creators of zblock are aware that sometimes their plugin doesn't release the lock on the cl_interp value. i run it on my server and if i leave and try to join a different server sometimes i get this error. Invalid cl_interp lock. Kicked form server ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am sure they know of it, I have seen it posted all over the internet by many different people. Always with the same answer just try joining again and it will work. Of course fixing something is better than a band-aid solution so hopefully they are working on it. On 5/23/06, David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cheers for tips guys but i'm already running mani (sorry shoulda said earlier). i know he is a member of this list so mebbe he knows of something that will work. of course, if there is a stand alone one that works kinda like zblock that would be better for me. Speaking of which i was wondering if the creators of zblock are aware that sometimes their plugin doesn't release the lock on the cl_interp value. i run it on my server and if i leave and try to join a different server sometimes i get this error. Invalid cl_interp lock. Kicked form server ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] the zBlock author implied the locked values after disconnecting was due to a valve limit, not their plugin. at anyrate, quitting/restarting the game is the fix. that's off topic though ;) http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3424 cvar-x is a sourcemod (done by the guys of sharedbans). last time i looked at it, it was still in early devel stages and only for windows. i'd be really, really curious to hear some *informed* feedback, though. we're in the same boat running mani + zblock. would it be off topic to reach for a general consensus of what would be considered rate hacking assuming interpolate is on...? On 5/23/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am sure they know of it, I have seen it posted all over the internet by many different people. Always with the same answer just try joining again and it will work. Of course fixing something is better than a band-aid solution so hopefully they are working on it. On 5/23/06, David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cheers for tips guys but i'm already running mani (sorry shoulda said earlier). i know he is a member of this list so mebbe he knows of something that will work. of course, if there is a stand alone one that works kinda like zblock that would be better for me. Speaking of which i was wondering if the creators of zblock are aware that sometimes their plugin doesn't release the lock on the cl_interp value. i run it on my server and if i leave and try to join a different server sometimes i get this error. Invalid cl_interp lock. Kicked form server ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Matt Albiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
the zblock thing was only a passing random. my main problem is those sly lil kiddies that think it's funny to use stupidly low rates so no one can hit them. So do we have a solution that will work with mani coz i spent an hour today looking around the tinternet and came up with nothing. i am in desperate need of some reliable intel. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] dude, i'm the farthest from reliable intel. i just realized that cvar-x is actually packaged for linux. give it a shot, and then give us feedback :) http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3424 or http://www.sharedbans.com/node/14 you do know you can set min/max updaterates in the server.cfg, too, right? sv_maxupdaterate 100 sv_minupdaterate 20 i believe whisper said something about a relationship between any minupdaterate != 0 and warping. we've been running the above settings and not had an issue, minus the occassional wireless network warrior coming in with about 30% packetloss. anyways, try the sourcemod link i posted above. i'm assuming you're using the sourcemod version of mani, right? if you're not, you should. On 5/23/06, David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the zblock thing was only a passing random. my main problem is those sly lil kiddies that think it's funny to use stupidly low rates so no one can hit them. So do we have a solution that will work with mani coz i spent an hour today looking around the tinternet and came up with nothing. i am in desperate need of some reliable intel. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Matt Albiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
min rates are set, i think it's cl_minrate 15000 cl_updaterate 66 and cl_cmdrate 66 (it's a 66 tick server and the game is CS:S). i did try to run the sourcemod version of mani but i could never figure out if it was actually working so i removed sourcemod and i currently use the normal version. Any tips on telling whether sourcemod and mani for sourcemod are actually working would be good. On the subject of what would constistute rate hacking. I think that anything less than 1,33,33 is a bit low but i had a guy come on my server on sunday with 3400, 15, 20 and that tbh is taking the piss and is also what has triggered me to look into forcing min rates on all clients. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
further to my most recent post want is the general opinion of this lil plugin http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2978. looks like it could be the cure for most rate related problems. also has everyone gone on their summer hols or summin. it's been very quite round here lately. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
Does it work on 1.6 also? If so, which directory does the dll get placed in? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:31 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties further to my most recent post want is the general opinion of this lil plugin http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2978. looks like it could be the cure for most rate related problems. also has everyone gone on their summer hols or summin. it's been very quite round here lately. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
Well i was kinda hoping that someone else would respond just so i could get as many opinions as poss, but hey, it ratetweak was just an idea and also on the subject of linux only plugins. I run my server on windows linux plugins are useless for me. altho i do love linux i didn't get a choice as to which os went on the remote box :( On Tuesday 23 May 2006 20:53, Matt Albiniak wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] yesterday was incredibly dull for all of our css pubs. today has shown a little traffic. personally, it's finals week for me. i'm particularly active on this list today as a distraction from studying ;) as for the last link posted (ratetweak), i'm fully against that. too many calculations, too little understanding of netcode, just a big bloody car crash waiting to happen. you're giving a lot of faith to one person fully comprehending a fairly complex subject. things like zblock just identify the potentials and locks em. i think i'm good with that... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] forcing client rates without using matties
don't ask me mate i'm as in the dark as you are but i should think it's source only On Tuesday 23 May 2006 20:59, Chorizo Omelet wrote: Does it work on 1.6 also? If so, which directory does the dll get placed in? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
