Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
Yes, I see your point. And thank you for the great job by the way. On 10/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] An easier way would be to just type alias in console. Either way, we may later list a number of cvars that we block, however we will not list all, due to exploitable issues (You only have to look at MPC to see what I mean). On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks. Any plans to provide more details about blocked cvars on the > site? Looking through binary is pretty boring to be honest. > > On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > We do plan to add similar functionality in the future (unless VALVe > > implements sv_pure before that time). > > > > On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Putting aside your funny needles about competence of those who do not > > > agree with your opinion, I wonder if zBlock perform files consitency > > > check the way cvarblock does? If not, any plans to implement this in > > > the future? > > > > > > On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Not at all irony, people who don't want to have clientcommands > executed > > > on > > > > them don't need to. People who wish to use their servers as > forwarders > > > can > > > > use that exact same option. I'm not asking VALVe or anyone to give > me > > > access > > > > to the clientcommands without the use of cl_restrict_server_commands > 0. > > > > Unless you mean that the irony is that people who connect to zblock > > > servers > > > > can also be redirected; yes I'd love for that to not be true, good > thing > > > > most server admins competent enough to use zBlock are rarely > incompetent > > > > enough to use their servers as forwarders. > > > > > > > > On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as > > > > > that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server > executed > > > > > connect command right on this list, what an irony... > > > > > > > > > > On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S > > > server, in > > > > > > the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the > > > > > > cl_restrict_server_commands update). > > > > > > > > > > > > From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not > > > hinder > > > > > > performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 > scrim, > > > or > > > > > > when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know > how > > > it > > > > > > has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or > > > > > > malicious users? > > > > > > Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftwa
Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] An easier way would be to just type alias in console. Either way, we may later list a number of cvars that we block, however we will not list all, due to exploitable issues (You only have to look at MPC to see what I mean). On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks. Any plans to provide more details about blocked cvars on the > site? Looking through binary is pretty boring to be honest. > > On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > We do plan to add similar functionality in the future (unless VALVe > > implements sv_pure before that time). > > > > On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Putting aside your funny needles about competence of those who do not > > > agree with your opinion, I wonder if zBlock perform files consitency > > > check the way cvarblock does? If not, any plans to implement this in > > > the future? > > > > > > On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Not at all irony, people who don't want to have clientcommands > executed > > > on > > > > them don't need to. People who wish to use their servers as > forwarders > > > can > > > > use that exact same option. I'm not asking VALVe or anyone to give > me > > > access > > > > to the clientcommands without the use of cl_restrict_server_commands > 0. > > > > Unless you mean that the irony is that people who connect to zblock > > > servers > > > > can also be redirected; yes I'd love for that to not be true, good > thing > > > > most server admins competent enough to use zBlock are rarely > incompetent > > > > enough to use their servers as forwarders. > > > > > > > > On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as > > > > > that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server > executed > > > > > connect command right on this list, what an irony... > > > > > > > > > > On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S > > > server, in > > > > > > the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the > > > > > > cl_restrict_server_commands update). > > > > > > > > > > > > From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not > > > hinder > > > > > > performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 > scrim, > > > or > > > > > > when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know > how > > > it > > > > > > has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or > > > > > > malicious users? > > > > > > Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
Thanks. Any plans to provide more details about blocked cvars on the site? Looking through binary is pretty boring to be honest. On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We do plan to add similar functionality in the future (unless VALVe implements sv_pure before that time). On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Putting aside your funny needles about competence of those who do not > agree with your opinion, I wonder if zBlock perform files consitency > check the way cvarblock does? If not, any plans to implement this in > the future? > > On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Not at all irony, people who don't want to have clientcommands executed > on > > them don't need to. People who wish to use their servers as forwarders > can > > use that exact same option. I'm not asking VALVe or anyone to give me > access > > to the clientcommands without the use of cl_restrict_server_commands 0. > > Unless you mean that the irony is that people who connect to zblock > servers > > can also be redirected; yes I'd love for that to not be true, good thing > > most server admins competent enough to use zBlock are rarely incompetent > > enough to use their servers as forwarders. > > > > On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as > > > that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server executed > > > connect command right on this list, what an irony... > > > > > > On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S > server, in > > > > the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the > > > > cl_restrict_server_commands update). > > > > > > > > From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not > hinder > > > > performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 scrim, > or > > > > when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know how > it > > > > has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". > > > > > > > > What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or > > > > malicious users? > > > > Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We do plan to add similar functionality in the future (unless VALVe implements sv_pure before that time). On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Putting aside your funny needles about competence of those who do not > agree with your opinion, I wonder if zBlock perform files consitency > check the way cvarblock does? If not, any plans to implement this in > the future? > > On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Not at all irony, people who don't want to have clientcommands executed > on > > them don't need to. People who wish to use their servers as forwarders > can > > use that exact same option. I'm not asking VALVe or anyone to give me > access > > to the clientcommands without the use of cl_restrict_server_commands 0. > > Unless you mean that the irony is that people who connect to zblock > servers > > can also be redirected; yes I'd love for that to not be true, good thing > > most server admins competent enough to use zBlock are rarely incompetent > > enough to use their servers as forwarders. > > > > On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as > > > that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server executed > > > connect command right on this list, what an irony... > > > > > > On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S > server, in > > > > the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the > > > > cl_restrict_server_commands update). > > > > > > > > From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not > hinder > > > > performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 scrim, > or > > > > when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know how > it > > > > has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". > > > > > > > > What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or > > > > malicious users? > > > > Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- I've been testing v3.0.0 C3 on our server tonight with some mates, and also had a few 5v5 scrims on it for testing. The guys who I played with have given mixed feedback on how it performs, however this is from a playability point of view, not a "can I control my players and screw with their settings" point of view. Some say the server performs choppier with really laggy hitboxes (could be interp 0.01 perhaps?), whereas myself and others believe for scrims/wars, it is far more accurate from a registration point of view. As we only scrim primarily SA and East Coast AU clans, we don't know what the playability is like for the broader CS:S community around Australia (or overseas for that matter). If anyone is willing to jump in and test it out with some mates, please feel free. I'd like to know what people think compared to say Whispers servers, or another GSP's collection not running zBlock - just for curiosity sake. Not sure what version of Mani and Matties are running on other GSP's, however we run v1.2 R of Mani, and v1.3 Beta 006 of Matties. Server: Clan [POON] CS:Source (-DWP,-FF) [66 Tick] Address: 202.58.54.105:27015 Feedback: http://www.teampoon.com/forums Regards, Adam. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Wim Barelds Sent: Tue 9/01/2007 8:22 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Not at all irony, people who don't want to have clientcommands executed on them don't need to. People who wish to use their servers as forwarders can use that exact same option. I'm not asking VALVe or anyone to give me access to the clientcommands without the use of cl_restrict_server_commands 0. Unless you mean that the irony is that people who connect to zblock servers can also be redirected; yes I'd love for that to not be true, good thing most server admins competent enough to use zBlock are rarely incompetent enough to use their servers as forwarders. On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as > that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server executed > connect command right on this list, what an irony... > > On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S server, in > > the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the > > cl_restrict_server_commands update). > > > > From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not hinder > > performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 scrim, or > > when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know how it > > has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". > > > > What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or > > malicious users? > > Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? > > > > Regards, > > Adam. > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- [ winmail.dat of type application/ms-tnef deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
Putting aside your funny needles about competence of those who do not agree with your opinion, I wonder if zBlock perform files consitency check the way cvarblock does? If not, any plans to implement this in the future? On 09/01/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Not at all irony, people who don't want to have clientcommands executed on them don't need to. People who wish to use their servers as forwarders can use that exact same option. I'm not asking VALVe or anyone to give me access to the clientcommands without the use of cl_restrict_server_commands 0. Unless you mean that the irony is that people who connect to zblock servers can also be redirected; yes I'd love for that to not be true, good thing most server admins competent enough to use zBlock are rarely incompetent enough to use their servers as forwarders. On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as > that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server executed > connect command right on this list, what an irony... > > On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S server, in > > the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the > > cl_restrict_server_commands update). > > > > From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not hinder > > performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 scrim, or > > when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know how it > > has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". > > > > What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or > > malicious users? > > Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? > > > > Regards, > > Adam. > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Not at all irony, people who don't want to have clientcommands executed on them don't need to. People who wish to use their servers as forwarders can use that exact same option. I'm not asking VALVe or anyone to give me access to the clientcommands without the use of cl_restrict_server_commands 0. Unless you mean that the irony is that people who connect to zblock servers can also be redirected; yes I'd love for that to not be true, good thing most server admins competent enough to use zBlock are rarely incompetent enough to use their servers as forwarders. On 1/9/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as > that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server executed > connect command right on this list, what an irony... > > On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S server, in > > the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the > > cl_restrict_server_commands update). > > > > From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not hinder > > performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 scrim, or > > when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know how it > > has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". > > > > What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or > > malicious users? > > Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? > > > > Regards, > > Adam. > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
It kicks players with cl_restrict_server_commands 1. As simple as that. And few weeks ago zblock author argued against server executed connect command right on this list, what an irony... On 09/01/07, Adam Sando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys, I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S server, in the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the cl_restrict_server_commands update). From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not hinder performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 scrim, or when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know how it has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or malicious users? Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? Regards, Adam. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] zBlock 3.0.0 RC3 - What are others using?
Hi guys, I just downloaded and installed zBlock v3.0.0 RC3 on our CS:S server, in the hopes to replace what was CVAR-X (before the cl_restrict_server_commands update). >From all accounts, the new version works quite well and does not hinder performance at all. I have yet to personally test it in a 5v5 scrim, or when the server is full, however it will be interesting to know how it has circumvented the server commands restriction "feature". What do you all use to protect your server against exploiting or malicious users? Does anyone make use of Mattie's Eventscripts for this at all? Regards, Adam. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds