RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
... waffling more than John Kerry. ROFL! Okay... seriously now. I've seen this all before and you guys are 100% correct to be concerned but you're also spitting into the wind. The times they are a changin and in-game adds are comin. To quote a phrase oft used by one incredibly sexy ex-Borg... resistance is futile. I'm a bit older then; well... all of you (hehehe), and I lived through this before. No, not adds in movie theaters... that was relatively recent... I'm talking about Cable Television. Back in the dark ages (before computers) there was but a handful of channels, available only via Rabbit Ears or an antennae on your roof. Then one day someone mentioned that we would soon be introduced to something called Cable Television and that we would have to pay a monthly fee to watch TV. The world laughed out loud at such a ridiculous concept... Pay to watch the television I already paid for?... Not on your life! Or so we thought. Now don't get me wrong... you can still use an antenna if you want, but who among us really wants to go back to 7 snowy channels spewing forth the party line when we can have hundreds of crystal clear channels with something that fits just about every taste and style? Remember... when your done changing, you're done. -Original Message- From: [DMA]RocketUSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:03 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 IF this all is true, Valve is waffling more than John Kerry. Think about this. They disable the content server loading banner for all of us that provide servers for this game, AT NO CHARGE TO THEM, and now they see that they can make revenue off of not just that but IN GAME also so it's o.k.? I'm not liking this ride if it's true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 Some of you seem to get it. For the others, corporations are all about making money and they will continually try to come up with ways to make more. As long as what they do continues to make them money (or in this case even more money), they will not change. They would not implement a change unless they believed that their gains (in advertising revenues) would outweigh any losses (in gamers). Alot of people like to play this game and will continue to play no matter what. Most GSP's will continue to host until they are no longer making money. In the end, its a waiting game. Does their gamble pay off or not? Only the players, the GSP's and time will tell. Me? I shut my server down. Time to move on to another game and see if I can find some of the fun that I use to have playing CS. Just my .02 From: Wojciech H [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/08 Fri AM 11:28:57 CST To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the 'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of people did not buy the game based on it. I think some arguments for having in game advertising is to pay for maintaining: the games, the update system, the many more updates/addons that people have started to expect, the master server lists, etc. Dan E wrote: As far as region specific, don't you specify what language you speak when you install Steam? I'm personally ticked off that they want us to look at ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo I can understand, but this is just rediculous. --- Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This brings some interesting questions: * How are they going the ensure the adds are region specific This is required to ensure that the language is correct and local laws adhered to. * How are they going to deal with the case that the ad's may go against sponsorship deals for the servers or tournaments etc. Its not going to go down well if a Intel sponsored tourney started displaying adds for AMD processors in the middle of the match. By the same reasoning if provider X started advertising and this where to show up on provider Y's servers they would be understandably pissed. These are just two logistical issues which spring to mind. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
Some of you seem to get it. For the others, corporations are all about making money and they will continually try to come up with ways to make more. As long as what they do continues to make them money (or in this case even more money), they will not change. They would not implement a change unless they believed that their gains (in advertising revenues) would outweigh any losses (in gamers). Alot of people like to play this game and will continue to play no matter what. Most GSP's will continue to host until they are no longer making money. In the end, its a waiting game. Does their gamble pay off or not? Only the players, the GSP's and time will tell. Me? I shut my server down. Time to move on to another game and see if I can find some of the fun that I use to have playing CS. Just my .02 From: Wojciech H [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/08 Fri AM 11:28:57 CST To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the 'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of people did not buy the game based on it. I think some arguments for having in game advertising is to pay for maintaining: the games, the update system, the many more updates/addons that people have started to expect, the master server lists, etc. Dan E wrote: As far as region specific, don't you specify what language you speak when you install Steam? I'm personally ticked off that they want us to look at ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo I can understand, but this is just rediculous. --- Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This brings some interesting questions: * How are they going the ensure the adds are region specific This is required to ensure that the language is correct and local laws adhered to. * How are they going to deal with the case that the ad's may go against sponsorship deals for the servers or tournaments etc. Its not going to go down well if a Intel sponsored tourney started displaying adds for AMD processors in the middle of the match. By the same reasoning if provider X started advertising and this where to show up on provider Y's servers they would be understandably pissed. These are just two logistical issues which spring to mind. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
IF this all is true, Valve is waffling more than John Kerry. Think about this. They disable the content server loading banner for all of us that provide servers for this game, AT NO CHARGE TO THEM, and now they see that they can make revenue off of not just that but IN GAME also so it's o.k.? I'm not liking this ride if it's true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 Some of you seem to get it. For the others, corporations are all about making money and they will continually try to come up with ways to make more. As long as what they do continues to make them money (or in this case even more money), they will not change. They would not implement a change unless they believed that their gains (in advertising revenues) would outweigh any losses (in gamers). Alot of people like to play this game and will continue to play no matter what. Most GSP's will continue to host until they are no longer making money. In the end, its a waiting game. Does their gamble pay off or not? Only the players, the GSP's and time will tell. Me? I shut my server down. Time to move on to another game and see if I can find some of the fun that I use to have playing CS. Just my .02 From: Wojciech H [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/08 Fri AM 11:28:57 CST To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the 'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of people did not buy the game based on it. I think some arguments for having in game advertising is to pay for maintaining: the games, the update system, the many more updates/addons that people have started to expect, the master server lists, etc. Dan E wrote: As far as region specific, don't you specify what language you speak when you install Steam? I'm personally ticked off that they want us to look at ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo I can understand, but this is just rediculous. --- Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This brings some interesting questions: * How are they going the ensure the adds are region specific This is required to ensure that the language is correct and local laws adhered to. * How are they going to deal with the case that the ad's may go against sponsorship deals for the servers or tournaments etc. Its not going to go down well if a Intel sponsored tourney started displaying adds for AMD processors in the middle of the match. By the same reasoning if provider X started advertising and this where to show up on provider Y's servers they would be understandably pissed. These are just two logistical issues which spring to mind. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6
Was Valve quietly bought out by EA? Or do they just hope to be? - Original Message - From: [DMA]RocketUSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 IF this all is true, Valve is waffling more than John Kerry. Think about this. They disable the content server loading banner for all of us that provide servers for this game, AT NO CHARGE TO THEM, and now they see that they can make revenue off of not just that but IN GAME also so it's o.k.? I'm not liking this ride if it's true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 Some of you seem to get it. For the others, corporations are all about making money and they will continually try to come up with ways to make more. As long as what they do continues to make them money (or in this case even more money), they will not change. They would not implement a change unless they believed that their gains (in advertising revenues) would outweigh any losses (in gamers). Alot of people like to play this game and will continue to play no matter what. Most GSP's will continue to host until they are no longer making money. In the end, its a waiting game. Does their gamble pay off or not? Only the players, the GSP's and time will tell. Me? I shut my server down. Time to move on to another game and see if I can find some of the fun that I use to have playing CS. Just my .02 From: Wojciech H [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/08 Fri AM 11:28:57 CST To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the 'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of people did not buy the game based on it. I think some arguments for having in game advertising is to pay for maintaining: the games, the update system, the many more updates/addons that people have started to expect, the master server lists, etc. Dan E wrote: As far as region specific, don't you specify what language you speak when you install Steam? I'm personally ticked off that they want us to look at ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo I can understand, but this is just rediculous. --- Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This brings some interesting questions: * How are they going the ensure the adds are region specific This is required to ensure that the language is correct and local laws adhered to. * How are they going to deal with the case that the ad's may go against sponsorship deals for the servers or tournaments etc. Its not going to go down well if a Intel sponsored tourney started displaying adds for AMD processors in the middle of the match. By the same reasoning if provider X started advertising and this where to show up on provider Y's servers they would be understandably pissed. These are just two logistical issues which spring to mind. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
