RE: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.
--Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of EnemySpy -Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:42 PM -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game. - - - -- Original Message - -From: m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:33 PM -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game. - - - It's been said before recently that people are giving Valve -crap for not fixing - stuff, then when they do, they get crap for that too. This is -Valve's beta - test, not ours. When stuff brakes, it's expected. If a plugin -brakes, then - it's the plugin's authors responsibility to fix it. If you -were warned ahead of - time would you not test it out? How does that help Valve? -When Valve rolls out - a patch you don't have a choice anyway the steam clients are -updated too. - -Er, its not just betas they screw up on. They have managed to -screw something up on lots (if not all) of their final releases. -And as for fixing things, they always appear to break something else. - -I enjoy CS, and I host 2 servers, but I think the support sucks. - -This auto update worries me too (and yes, I know you can turn it -off). But I can see servers auto downloading the latest update -and crashing because valve forgot to check something before they -released the update. - how can you say that? you act as if any other game company has done as much over such a long time for any of their games, not charging a dime more to the players who bought the original game u. no one? also, whats the point of turning off auto update, when clients cant, and will therefor not be able to continue playing on your servers? kev ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] New Security Modules -July 16
*** This only affects Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat servers. *** We've updated the public security modules again. Your Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat servers should update themselves automatically. These security modules have some new cheat detections. Let me know if you have any problems with the security modules and we'll look into them right away. Thanks. Eric Smith Valve ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] re 1.6 shield
I just witnessed the rifle/shield exploit again. I didn't see the bug fix listed on last release, so I assume still working on it. Player would switch between pistol with shield and his ak47. Thought I would report it, just in case they thought it was fixed. - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] re 1.6 shield --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric -(Deacon) -Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:30 PM -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re 1.6 shield - - -Kevin J. Anderson wrote: - I have to admit, I was waiting for them to fix the shield -bugs to see what - happens, but the shield is just insanely lame in my opinion... - it is so - damn easy for anyone w/ even a remote amount of skill to own -anyone in a 1v1 - and sometimes more situation. I played a bit w/ some friends -who really - are pretty damn good at cs, and we all switched around as needed, and - everyone agreed, the shield is just way too effective. - -The shield is horrible. It's absolutely horrible for gameplay. Adding -it in there just for the sake of there being something new in a -maintenance release is a bad idea, and in this case, it's a *really* bad -idea. I would be very surprised if *any* competitive leagues actually -allow the shield to be used, and I'd also be surprised to find too many -pubs end up with it being allowed as well. - -Maybe the HL2 engine will be better equiped to handle a shield concept. - I don't know. But I do know that the shield is a nightmarish mistake. - rgr, the shield as it is now, will be banned on any server that I run... imho, there has been way too much changed too fast in 1.6. all the new guns, the shield, the horrible bullet impact sounds, etc etc. the rest I could live w/ but the shield just takes it far over teh line for me unfortunately. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Steam CS map load
mapplayersavgcpu% de_dust21625.464137 de_aztec1632.970308 cs_italy 16 36.829508 de_cbble16 37.502273 de_train 16 38.70 de_prodigy 16 39.395652 de_nuke 16 39.771429 cs_747 16 40.585 de_inferno 16 45.45 cs_office1645.908333 Do these results show what every 1 else is seeing. This is CPU% on a 2.4Ghz Xeon 2Gb RAM sample spacing 1 min running metamod + wwcl I've tried without metamod and the was no deserble difference. Now were as de_dust2 load is excellent the rest leave something to be desired they are now significantly worse than bf1942 I could run a 40 player bf server for the CPU used on cs_office. Steve / K ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.
how can you say that? you act as if any other game company has done as much over such a long time for any of their games, not charging a dime more to the players who bought the original game u. no one? I can say that, because I have been running a CS server for over 3 years. I have also run battlefield 1942 and Unreal Tournament servers, so I think I have some firm ground from which to speak from. also, whats the point of turning off auto update, when clients cant, and will therefor not be able to continue playing on your servers? They would not be able to play on the servers if they crashed, either. And for an established community like mine, the clients (my players) would wait patiently for me to upgrade my server manually. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game.
Indeed all though I like the idea I must say we worried about the issues that steam may present. As it stands we will be manually updating our dev server testing and then rolling out to our live machines. This way we can: 1. detect issues before they affect the business 2. rollback to previous versions if an issue is detected after roll out to live machines. Steve / K - Original Message - From: EnemySpy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Various Issues of beta 1.6 the game. how can you say that? you act as if any other game company has done as much over such a long time for any of their games, not charging a dime more to the players who bought the original game u. no one? I can say that, because I have been running a CS server for over 3 years. I have also run battlefield 1942 and Unreal Tournament servers, so I think I have some firm ground from which to speak from. also, whats the point of turning off auto update, when clients cant, and will therefor not be able to continue playing on your servers? They would not be able to play on the servers if they crashed, either. And for an established community like mine, the clients (my players) would wait patiently for me to upgrade my server manually. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] steam linux error
funny you say that, because i had to make the same account twice, first on the serverside, then i installed steam on the client side - i thougt i could use the same loing, but i couldnt. had to make the same account again. - Original Message - From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] steam linux error This message is caused by two machines trying to use a single user account to update at the same time (the second login kicks the first off). Use a seperate user account per machine. Morten wrote: Tue Jul 15 23:04:24 CEST 2003: Server restart Updating server using Steam. Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation Checking/Installing 'Linux HLDS binaries' version 1 Checking/Installing 'Linux HLDS base content' version 0 Connection Reset, errno 104 Connection reset by peer Tue Jul 15 23:04:48 CEST 2003: Steam Update failed, exiting. server is running with the autoupdate thingy. ive startede it again, and now its updated and running regards. morten ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] re 1.6 shield
Kevin J. Anderson wrote: rgr, the shield as it is now, will be banned on any server that I run... imho, there has been way too much changed too fast in 1.6. all the new guns, the shield, the horrible bullet impact sounds, etc etc. Heh, the one bullet impact sound that's the dumbest and most annoying, to me, is the one that sounds like sand running through an hour glass or something. Horrible. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) But I don't want to be a pie; I hate gravy! -Babs (Chicken Run) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] re 1.6 shield
Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Seems the biggest problem with it is that it stops EVERYTHING. I can't imagine any material less than an inch thick would be able to stop a .308win round... I know, right? It's like, sure, you can take a .338 Lapua Magnum round at 10 yards and not even be knocked over or otherwise affected at all... -- Eric (the Deacon remix) But I don't want to be a pie; I hate gravy! -Babs (Chicken Run) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
