Re: [hlds_linux] WOW... New Kernel (2.6.0.test8.1.64) really performs!!!

2003-10-23 Thread David Harrison
Anyone with Intel CPUs tried this out?

-- trog

 Original Message 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:13 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] WOW... New Kernel (2.6.0.test8.1.64) really
performs!!!

> WOW... I just installed the new 2.6.0.test8.1.64 kernel from
> http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ and I am really
> impressed
> by its performance... Basically, I installed the source, did a make
> oldconfig with a 2.4.20-20.9smp config that I was using and answered
> a few
> questions, enabled preemptive kernel and let it compile. No need to
> set
> the HZ, cause with the 2.6 kernel its set to 1000 by default. I'm
> running
> Red Hat 9 now, but did have it running on 7.3. I recommend 9 because
> there
> will be less package upgrading that way. Any way, check out these
> system
> stats. This was taken while the server had 17 of 18 slots filled on
> Aztec
> map. I watched this and grabbed the text while it was at the highest
> usage. It was only getting to above 12 for a few seconds and then
> dropping
> down to below 10 and staying this way. On other maps like dust, it
> wasn't
> even getting above 10. Some maps like office, it would get to 11 and
> 12
> again, but only as a spike. I have some other stuff running on the
> server
> too, but I thought you would be most interested in the hlds process...
>
> I'm really impress with this kernel. I think I'll keep it :-D
>
>  21:50:42  up 2 days,  1:59,  1 user,  load average: 0.28, 0.35, 0.33
> 110 processes: 108 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU0 states:   0.1% user   3.0% system0.0% nice   0.0% iowait
> 95.0% idle
> CPU1 states:  22.0% user   4.0% system0.0% nice   0.0% iowait
> 80.0% idle
> Mem:  1034428k av, 1028616k used,5812k free,   0k shrd,
> 149024k buff
>570092k active, 198920k inactive
> Swap: 1052216k av,   0k used, 1052216k free
> 373284k
> cached
>
>   PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME CPU
> COMMAND
>  6167 xx25   0  112M 103M  9868 R12.8 10.2  24:04   1
> hlds_amd
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] WOW... New Kernel (2.6.0.test8.1.64) really performs!!!

2003-10-23 Thread hlds_linux

- Original Message - >  21:50:42  up 2 days,  1:59,  1 user,  load average: 
0.28, 0.35,
0.33
> 110 processes: 108 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU0 states:   0.1% user   3.0% system0.0% nice   0.0% iowait  95.0% idle
> CPU1 states:  22.0% user   4.0% system0.0% nice   0.0% iowait  80.0% idle
> Mem:  1034428k av, 1028616k used,5812k free,   0k shrd,  149024k buff
>570092k active, 198920k inactive
> Swap: 1052216k av,   0k used, 1052216k free  373284k
> cached
>
>   PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME CPU COMMAND
>  6167 xx25   0  112M 103M  9868 R12.8 10.2  24:04   1 hlds_amd
>

wow, it sure is sucking up memory.
does it ever release that RAM or does it just grow and grow until all maps have been 
rotated
through?



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[hlds_linux] FAQ v0.1

2003-10-23 Thread hlds_linux
1 - what is this list?
This list is for the discussion of items relating to HLDS_LINUX.
If you want to talk smack, politics, etc. go somewhere else.

2 - see item 1.



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[hlds_linux] WOW... New Kernel (2.6.0.test8.1.64) really performs!!!

2003-10-23 Thread jgiles
WOW... I just installed the new 2.6.0.test8.1.64 kernel from
http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/ and I am really impressed
by its performance... Basically, I installed the source, did a make
oldconfig with a 2.4.20-20.9smp config that I was using and answered a few
questions, enabled preemptive kernel and let it compile. No need to set
the HZ, cause with the 2.6 kernel its set to 1000 by default. I’m running
Red Hat 9 now, but did have it running on 7.3. I recommend 9 because there
will be less package upgrading that way. Any way, check out these system
stats. This was taken while the server had 17 of 18 slots filled on Aztec
map. I watched this and grabbed the text while it was at the highest
usage. It was only getting to above 12 for a few seconds and then dropping
down to below 10 and staying this way. On other maps like dust, it wasn’t
even getting above 10. Some maps like office, it would get to 11 and 12
again, but only as a spike. I have some other stuff running on the server
too, but I thought you would be most interested in the hlds process...

I’m really impress with this kernel. I think I'll keep it :-D

 21:50:42  up 2 days,  1:59,  1 user,  load average: 0.28, 0.35, 0.33
110 processes: 108 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states:   0.1% user   3.0% system0.0% nice   0.0% iowait  95.0% idle
CPU1 states:  22.0% user   4.0% system0.0% nice   0.0% iowait  80.0% idle
Mem:  1034428k av, 1028616k used,5812k free,   0k shrd,  149024k buff
   570092k active, 198920k inactive
Swap: 1052216k av,   0k used, 1052216k free  373284k
cached

  PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME CPU COMMAND
 6167 xx25   0  112M 103M  9868 R12.8 10.2  24:04   1 hlds_amd


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RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread Kevin J. Anderson
Mccarthy, luckily, was never a president.  Well, not of the united states at
least...

;p

dipshit

->-Original Message-
->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett
->Fernicola
->Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:26 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
->
->
->Stop and think about it:
->
->No one knew about the government spying on celebrities due to the fear of
->Communism.  They built huge files on thousands of celebrities, and watched
->and recorded their every damm move.  Now this wasn't ethical and makes me
->sick but they still did under direct order of president  mcarthy and the
->congress.  The group was called the House of Un-American Activities
->Committee. Then after this "Red Scare" was over almost all the
->evidence was
->burned.  Not to even mention the trials that were had were totally against
->the constitution, but sadly no one was able to due anything about it for a
->long time.
->
->So I ask you to shut your damm mouth now boy; I'm only 21 and have been
->around the world already, and I know how it works.  Stop living
->is a fantasy
->world.
->
->If you think the Red Scare was bs too look it up:
->http://home.earthlink.net/~tenspeed/SimonaSara/blacklist.htm
->
->Your just like the Germans who think the Holocaust never happened.  Your a
->product of what you were hand feed.
->
->The difference between me and you is that your are a pussy.  You don't
->question the garbage that's thrown at in your face, you only believe the
->happy side of the story where everyone wins. Truth is life sucks.
->
->Why is it that the majority of the world population believes in
->some sort of
->religion.  Answer:  They are weak minded and have to look to a book or a
->tyrant for guidance.  They cant make it for themselves and have to be
->promised a happy after life in order to succeed at life.  The
->average person
->is not very smart.
->
->Terrorists kill for their god, and to have a rewording and happy
->after life.
->Christians need the concept of heaven and hell to straiten them out.
->Atheist believe in science and use their brains to figure shit out for
->themselves.  They don't subject themselves to Extortion.  Look at all the
->people who still fall into the hands of cults and kill themselves for some
->fucked up reason.  Humans are naturally very stupid and moldable,
->but their
->are a select few who aren't.
->
->So what Catagory do you fall into.
->
->- Original Message -
->From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
->To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
->Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:39 PM
->Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
->
->
->Uhm... Since when did they track every number that calls/you call from the
->phone just from the DNC?
->
->Also, yeah... As if Echelon wouldn't already allow for what the DNC would
->allow... But, as far as I've read within the amended TCPA is just
->that they
->have to follow the government run DNC list. (Companies have been
->required to
->have one since 91...) And that the person has to complain. Not
->that the FCC
->will see the call, then immediately sue them. -YOU HAVE TO REPORT IT-
->
->It's also illegal to do many things. But they have to be REPORTED before
->anything will be done about it.
->
->Anyhow, just remember... They're not contrails... They're
->chemtrails! (Yes,
->people still believe that.)
->
->Stop being so paranoid. -_-
->
->> -Original Message-
->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
->> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Fernicola
->> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:04 PM
->> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
->>
->> First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a
->step towards
->> big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor worked for
->> both
->> the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not Call if a form of
->> Big
->> Brother.  It is this kinda technology that allows big brother
->to come into
->> existence.  The government will be seeing every phone number
->coming in and
->> out of your house, and from there will be able to red flag suspects and
->> tap
->> their phones.  This technology will be utilized to stop terrorism in the
->> US,
->> but projects like this will never be made public, because its
->illegal and
->> wrong.  Why do you think this passed so quickly through
->congress.  Go talk
->> to people who are high up in the government and you will learn
->some scary
->> shit.  I'm fortunate to have a good teacher who saw first hand
->the things
->> being down behind our back.  He too neglected to sign up for the same
->> reasons and during the lecture he took a poll to see how many of the
->> students in class signed up for this service or was planning to sign up.
->> I
->> was the only one out of 80 students to not raise their hand so of course
->> he
->> picks me and asks why.  So I tell him I'm not abo

Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread Kingsley Foreman
guys 4 people care about this

take it somewhere else

- Original Message -
From: "Brett Fernicola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres


> Come on you guys don't know dick about US History.  My mother has a
> doctorate degree in History and teaches it full time.  I know more about
> history then all of you combined.
>
> No I don't smoke crack either, but you guys are pushing me to hit the
> streets of Newark NJ to find some cause your all not listening to me at
all.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin J. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
>
>
> Mccarthy just called...
>
> He wants his tinfoil hat back.
>
> ->-Original Message-
> ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett
> ->Fernicola
> ->Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:04 PM
> ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
> ->
> ->
> ->First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step
towards
> ->big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor
> ->worked for both
> ->the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not Call if a
> ->form of Big
> ->Brother.  It is this kinda technology that allows big brother to come
into
> ->existence.  The government will be seeing every phone number coming in
and
> ->out of your house, and from there will be able to red flag
> ->suspects and tap
> ->their phones.  This technology will be utilized to stop terrorism
> ->in the US,
> ->but projects like this will never be made public, because its illegal
and
> ->wrong.  Why do you think this passed so quickly through congress.  Go
talk
> ->to people who are high up in the government and you will learn some
scary
> ->shit.  I'm fortunate to have a good teacher who saw first hand the
things
> ->being down behind our back.  He too neglected to sign up for the same
> ->reasons and during the lecture he took a poll to see how many of the
> ->students in class signed up for this service or was planning to
> ->sign up.  I
> ->was the only one out of 80 students to not raise their hand so of
> ->course he
> ->picks me and asks why.  So I tell him I'm not about to support
> ->big brother,
> ->and let the government into my home.  He applauded me and told me
> ->I was 100%
> ->correct and that the next government project is a Do not spam service so
> ->that they can keep tabs on all email.  So wake up and smell the coffee.
I
> ->for one am sick of the government and its sloppy ways.  They
> ->waste money and
> ->hide behind its power.  Clinton would be in Jail right now if I were
> ->president he ruined the country and sold all are technology to
> ->the Chinese.
> ->
> ->Do you really think the president has any clue about military
> ->prodjects that
> ->were started years ago.  There are some aspects of the military that are
> ->totaly self organized.  Take area 51 for example.  You cant even
> ->get within
> ->a few miles of their perimiter without getting your ass shot.  Theres
> ->assests of the military that know one asks about or has the guts to ask.
> ->Here at NJIT we get 250 mill in military grants for developing nuclear
> ->technology.  We got feds and military all over the place on a constant
> ->basis.  A friend of mine in the military who graduated from
> ->school here saw
> ->first hand the nuclear agensts we have.  This school has all the
materials
> ->to contruct a working A bomb big enough to blow up the entire
> ->East Cost and
> ->then some.  So take your stupid ass comments to yourself and go
> ->live in your
> ->fantasy land.  I bet you all believe in Jesus Christ too, the worlds
best
> ->scam artist to date.
> ->
> ->
> ->- Original Message -
> ->From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ->To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ->Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 PM
> ->Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
> ->
> ->
> ->Uhm, no, if you buy a game... You're guying a LICENSE to it. It's the
same
> ->with windows.
> ->
> ->Otherwise it'd be completely legal to download the HL source code after
> ->buying the game and doing whatever you want with it.
> ->
> ->Or heck. For you to stick it on a website for users to download from...
> ->So... Also, when'd Valve become the US government? How is making
> ->people give
> ->you a part of what they earn off YOUR hard word government like?
Further,
> ->the DNC list isn't a step to monitoring people. It's a step at allowing
> ->those people that're getting those phone calls to SUE the people calling
> ->them. The government isn't going to be listening to every phone call
> ->listening for telemarketers and suing them themselves. Geez.
> ->
> ->-
> ->
> ->To a later post... Yeah, true. They're not full all the time. But if
they
> ->

RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread Kevin J. Anderson
Mccarthy just called...

He wants his tinfoil hat back.

->-Original Message-
->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett
->Fernicola
->Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:04 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
->
->
->First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step towards
->big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor
->worked for both
->the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not Call if a
->form of Big
->Brother.  It is this kinda technology that allows big brother to come into
->existence.  The government will be seeing every phone number coming in and
->out of your house, and from there will be able to red flag
->suspects and tap
->their phones.  This technology will be utilized to stop terrorism
->in the US,
->but projects like this will never be made public, because its illegal and
->wrong.  Why do you think this passed so quickly through congress.  Go talk
->to people who are high up in the government and you will learn some scary
->shit.  I'm fortunate to have a good teacher who saw first hand the things
->being down behind our back.  He too neglected to sign up for the same
->reasons and during the lecture he took a poll to see how many of the
->students in class signed up for this service or was planning to
->sign up.  I
->was the only one out of 80 students to not raise their hand so of
->course he
->picks me and asks why.  So I tell him I'm not about to support
->big brother,
->and let the government into my home.  He applauded me and told me
->I was 100%
->correct and that the next government project is a Do not spam service so
->that they can keep tabs on all email.  So wake up and smell the coffee.  I
->for one am sick of the government and its sloppy ways.  They
->waste money and
->hide behind its power.  Clinton would be in Jail right now if I were
->president he ruined the country and sold all are technology to
->the Chinese.
->
->Do you really think the president has any clue about military
->prodjects that
->were started years ago.  There are some aspects of the military that are
->totaly self organized.  Take area 51 for example.  You cant even
->get within
->a few miles of their perimiter without getting your ass shot.  Theres
->assests of the military that know one asks about or has the guts to ask.
->Here at NJIT we get 250 mill in military grants for developing nuclear
->technology.  We got feds and military all over the place on a constant
->basis.  A friend of mine in the military who graduated from
->school here saw
->first hand the nuclear agensts we have.  This school has all the materials
->to contruct a working A bomb big enough to blow up the entire
->East Cost and
->then some.  So take your stupid ass comments to yourself and go
->live in your
->fantasy land.  I bet you all believe in Jesus Christ too, the worlds best
->scam artist to date.
->
->
->- Original Message -
->From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
->To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
->Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 PM
->Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
->
->
->Uhm, no, if you buy a game... You're guying a LICENSE to it. It's the same
->with windows.
->
->Otherwise it'd be completely legal to download the HL source code after
->buying the game and doing whatever you want with it.
->
->Or heck. For you to stick it on a website for users to download from...
->So... Also, when'd Valve become the US government? How is making
->people give
->you a part of what they earn off YOUR hard word government like? Further,
->the DNC list isn't a step to monitoring people. It's a step at allowing
->those people that're getting those phone calls to SUE the people calling
->them. The government isn't going to be listening to every phone call
->listening for telemarketers and suing them themselves. Geez.
->
->-
->
->To a later post... Yeah, true. They're not full all the time. But if they
->don't have the money to rent 40 copies of the game on 40 computers at only
->$10 a month... Then why are they in business in the first place?
->
->Yes, $10 a month is steep. But heck. If only 15 people are in that 40
->computer café all the time then that's $10,800 a month. While that's only
->$400 a month for the HL licenses. Also, those are for EVERY Valve game. So
->that's not bad at all. (Oh, and just 2 people per month is $4320
->so I think
->they're making plenty.)
->
->But, I think if you're going to be a business then you should be aware of
->the costs. I personally don't like the idea of somebody getting
->'rich'(Fine,
->not the correct word) off a program they just spent $13 for per computer?
->Meanwhile for each of those computers they'll get that $13 back within a
->couple hours per computer.
->
->~
->
->> -Original Message-
->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
->> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Fernicola
->> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 200

Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread vOrTeX
Brett Fernicola wrote:
First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step towards
big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor worked for both
the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not Call if a form of Big
Brother.
err, what is Do Not Call?

(I love a good conspiracy)

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Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread joe_null
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don't forget about Gabe Newell in the UFO scanning for code thieves...

he's up there still...instead of monitoring this list dammit...


  - Original Message -
  From: Brett Fernicola
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres


  First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step towards
  big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor worked for both
  the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not Call if a form of Big
  Brother.  It is this kinda technology that allows big brother to come into
  existence.  The government will be seeing every phone number coming in and
  out of your house, and from there will be able to red flag suspects and tap
  their phones.  This technology will be utilized to stop terrorism in the US,
  but projects like this will never be made public, because its illegal and
  wrong.  Why do you think this passed so quickly through congress.  Go talk
  to people who are high up in the government and you will learn some scary
  shit.  I'm fortunate to have a good teacher who saw first hand the things
  being down behind our back.  He too neglected to sign up for the same
  reasons and during the lecture he took a poll to see how many of the
  students in class signed up for this service or was planning to sign up.  I
  was the only one out of 80 students to not raise their hand so of course he
  picks me and asks why.  So I tell him I'm not about to support big brother,
  and let the government into my home.  He applauded me and told me I was 100%
  correct and that the next government project is a Do not spam service so
  that they can keep tabs on all email.  So wake up and smell the coffee.  I
  for one am sick of the government and its sloppy ways.  They waste money and
  hide behind its power.  Clinton would be in Jail right now if I were
  president he ruined the country and sold all are technology to the Chinese.

  Do you really think the president has any clue about military prodjects that
  were started years ago.  There are some aspects of the military that are
  totaly self organized.  Take area 51 for example.  You cant even get within
  a few miles of their perimiter without getting your ass shot.  Theres
  assests of the military that know one asks about or has the guts to ask.
  Here at NJIT we get 250 mill in military grants for developing nuclear
  technology.  We got feds and military all over the place on a constant
  basis.  A friend of mine in the military who graduated from school here saw
  first hand the nuclear agensts we have.  This school has all the materials
  to contruct a working A bomb big enough to blow up the entire East Cost and
  then some.  So take your stupid ass comments to yourself and go live in your
  fantasy land.  I bet you all believe in Jesus Christ too, the worlds best
  scam artist to date.


  - Original Message -
  From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 PM
  Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres


  Uhm, no, if you buy a game... You're guying a LICENSE to it. It's the same
  with windows.

  Otherwise it'd be completely legal to download the HL source code after
  buying the game and doing whatever you want with it.

  Or heck. For you to stick it on a website for users to download from...
  So... Also, when'd Valve become the US government? How is making people give
  you a part of what they earn off YOUR hard word government like? Further,
  the DNC list isn't a step to monitoring people. It's a step at allowing
  those people that're getting those phone calls to SUE the people calling
  them. The government isn't going to be listening to every phone call
  listening for telemarketers and suing them themselves. Geez.

  -

  To a later post... Yeah, true. They're not full all the time. But if they
  don't have the money to rent 40 copies of the game on 40 computers at only
  $10 a month... Then why are they in business in the first place?

  Yes, $10 a month is steep. But heck. If only 15 people are in that 40
  computer café all the time then that's $10,800 a month. While that's only
  $400 a month for the HL licenses. Also, those are for EVERY Valve game. So
  that's not bad at all. (Oh, and just 2 people per month is $4320 so I think
  they're making plenty.)

  But, I think if you're going to be a business then you should be aware of
  the costs. I personally don't like the idea of somebody getting 'rich'(Fine,
  not the correct word) off a program they just spent $13 for per computer?
  Meanwhile for each of those computers they'll get that $13 back within a
  couple hours per computer.

  ~

  > -Original Message-
  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread Kevin Gerry
Uhm... Since when did they track every number that calls/you call from the
phone just from the DNC?

Also, yeah... As if Echelon wouldn't already allow for what the DNC would
allow... But, as far as I've read within the amended TCPA is just that they
have to follow the government run DNC list. (Companies have been required to
have one since 91...) And that the person has to complain. Not that the FCC
will see the call, then immediately sue them. -YOU HAVE TO REPORT IT-

It's also illegal to do many things. But they have to be REPORTED before
anything will be done about it.

Anyhow, just remember... They're not contrails... They're chemtrails! (Yes,
people still believe that.)

Stop being so paranoid. -_-

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Fernicola
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
>
> First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step towards
> big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor worked for
> both
> the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not Call if a form of
> Big
> Brother.  It is this kinda technology that allows big brother to come into
> existence.  The government will be seeing every phone number coming in and
> out of your house, and from there will be able to red flag suspects and
> tap
> their phones.  This technology will be utilized to stop terrorism in the
> US,
> but projects like this will never be made public, because its illegal and
> wrong.  Why do you think this passed so quickly through congress.  Go talk
> to people who are high up in the government and you will learn some scary
> shit.  I'm fortunate to have a good teacher who saw first hand the things
> being down behind our back.  He too neglected to sign up for the same
> reasons and during the lecture he took a poll to see how many of the
> students in class signed up for this service or was planning to sign up.
> I
> was the only one out of 80 students to not raise their hand so of course
> he
> picks me and asks why.  So I tell him I'm not about to support big
brother,
> and let the government into my home.  He applauded me and told me I was
> 100%
> correct and that the next government project is a Do not spam service so
> that they can keep tabs on all email.  So wake up and smell the coffee.  I
> for one am sick of the government and its sloppy ways.  They waste money
> and
> hide behind its power.  Clinton would be in Jail right now if I were
> president he ruined the country and sold all are technology to the
Chinese.
>
> Do you really think the president has any clue about military prodjects
> that
> were started years ago.  There are some aspects of the military that are
> totaly self organized.  Take area 51 for example.  You cant even get
> within
> a few miles of their perimiter without getting your ass shot.  Theres
> assests of the military that know one asks about or has the guts to ask.
> Here at NJIT we get 250 mill in military grants for developing nuclear
> technology.  We got feds and military all over the place on a constant
> basis.  A friend of mine in the military who graduated from school here
> saw
> first hand the nuclear agensts we have.  This school has all the materials
> to contruct a working A bomb big enough to blow up the entire East Cost
> and
> then some.  So take your stupid ass comments to yourself and go live in
> your
> fantasy land.  I bet you all believe in Jesus Christ too, the worlds best
> scam artist to date.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
>
>
> Uhm, no, if you buy a game... You're guying a LICENSE to it. It's the same
> with windows.
>
> Otherwise it'd be completely legal to download the HL source code after
> buying the game and doing whatever you want with it.
>
> Or heck. For you to stick it on a website for users to download from...
> So... Also, when'd Valve become the US government? How is making people
> give
> you a part of what they earn off YOUR hard word government like? Further,
> the DNC list isn't a step to monitoring people. It's a step at allowing
> those people that're getting those phone calls to SUE the people calling
> them. The government isn't going to be listening to every phone call
> listening for telemarketers and suing them themselves. Geez.
>
> -
>
> To a later post... Yeah, true. They're not full all the time. But if they
> don't have the money to rent 40 copies of the game on 40 computers at only
> $10 a month... Then why are they in business in the first place?
>
> Yes, $10 a month is steep. But heck. If only 15 people are in that 40
> computer café all the time then that's $10,800 a month. While that's only
> $400 a month for the HL licenses. Also, those

RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread Mark's
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean everyone isn't out to get me.
:-D

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy
Lynn
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres


This is the funniest shit I've ever read on this list. Thanks for the
laugh my man!

(message kept intact because it's so worth quoting)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step
> towards big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor
> worked for both the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not
> Call if a form of Big Brother.  It is this kinda technology that
> allows big brother to come into existence.  The government will be
> seeing every phone number coming in and out of your house, and from
> there will be able to red flag suspects and tap their phones.  This
> technology will be utilized to stop terrorism in the US, but projects
> like this will never be made public, because its illegal and wrong.
> Why do you think this passed so quickly through congress.  Go talk to
> people who are high up in the government and you will learn some
> scary shit.  I'm fortunate to have a good teacher who saw first hand
> the things being down behind our back.  He too neglected to sign up
> for the same reasons and during the lecture he took a poll to see how
> many of the students in class signed up for this service or was
> planning to sign up.  I was the only one out of 80 students to not
> raise their hand so of course he picks me and asks why.  So I tell
> him I'm not about to support big brother, and let the government into
> my home.  He applauded me and told me I was 100% correct and that the
> next government project is a Do not spam service so that they can
> keep tabs on all email.  So wake up and smell the coffee.  I for one
> am sick of the government and its sloppy ways.  They waste money and
> hide behind its power.  Clinton would be in Jail right now if I were
> president he ruined the country and sold all are technology to the
> Chinese.
>
> Do you really think the president has any clue about military
> prodjects that were started years ago.  There are some aspects of the
> military that are totaly self organized.  Take area 51 for example.
> You cant even get within a few miles of their perimiter without
> getting your ass shot.  Theres assests of the military that know one
> asks about or has the guts to ask. Here at NJIT we get 250 mill in
> military grants for developing nuclear technology.  We got feds and
> military all over the place on a constant basis.  A friend of mine in
> the military who graduated from school here saw first hand the
> nuclear agensts we have.  This school has all the materials to
> contruct a working A bomb big enough to blow up the entire East Cost
> and then some.  So take your stupid ass comments to yourself and go
> live in your fantasy land.  I bet you all believe in Jesus Christ
> too, the worlds best scam artist to date.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
>
>
> Uhm, no, if you buy a game... You're guying a LICENSE to it. It's the
> same with windows.
>
> Otherwise it'd be completely legal to download the HL source code
> after buying the game and doing whatever you want with it.
>
> Or heck. For you to stick it on a website for users to download
> from... So... Also, when'd Valve become the US government? How is
> making people give you a part of what they earn off YOUR hard word
> government like? Further, the DNC list isn't a step to monitoring
> people. It's a step at allowing those people that're getting those
> phone calls to SUE the people calling them. The government isn't
> going to be listening to every phone call listening for telemarketers
> and suing them themselves. Geez.
>
> -
>
> To a later post... Yeah, true. They're not full all the time. But if
> they don't have the money to rent 40 copies of the game on 40
> computers at only $10 a month... Then why are they in business in the
> first place?
>
> Yes, $10 a month is steep. But heck. If only 15 people are in that 40
> computer café all the time then that's $10,800 a month. While that's
> only $400 a month for the HL licenses. Also, those are for EVERY
> Valve game. So that's not bad at all. (Oh, and just 2 people per
> month is $4320 so I think they're making plenty.)
>
> But, I think if you're going to be a business then you should be
> aware of the costs. I personally don't like the idea of somebody
> getting 'rich'(Fine, not the correct word) off a program they just
> spent $13 for per computer? Meanwhile for each of those computers
> they'll get that $13 back within a couple hours per computer.
>
> ~
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAI

RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread Timothy Lynn
This is the funniest shit I've ever read on this list. Thanks for the
laugh my man!

(message kept intact because it's so worth quoting)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step
> towards big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor
> worked for both the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do Not
> Call if a form of Big Brother.  It is this kinda technology that
> allows big brother to come into existence.  The government will be
> seeing every phone number coming in and out of your house, and from
> there will be able to red flag suspects and tap their phones.  This
> technology will be utilized to stop terrorism in the US, but projects
> like this will never be made public, because its illegal and wrong.
> Why do you think this passed so quickly through congress.  Go talk to
> people who are high up in the government and you will learn some
> scary shit.  I'm fortunate to have a good teacher who saw first hand
> the things being down behind our back.  He too neglected to sign up
> for the same reasons and during the lecture he took a poll to see how
> many of the students in class signed up for this service or was
> planning to sign up.  I was the only one out of 80 students to not
> raise their hand so of course he picks me and asks why.  So I tell
> him I'm not about to support big brother, and let the government into
> my home.  He applauded me and told me I was 100% correct and that the
> next government project is a Do not spam service so that they can
> keep tabs on all email.  So wake up and smell the coffee.  I for one
> am sick of the government and its sloppy ways.  They waste money and
> hide behind its power.  Clinton would be in Jail right now if I were
> president he ruined the country and sold all are technology to the
> Chinese.
>
> Do you really think the president has any clue about military
> prodjects that were started years ago.  There are some aspects of the
> military that are totaly self organized.  Take area 51 for example.
> You cant even get within a few miles of their perimiter without
> getting your ass shot.  Theres assests of the military that know one
> asks about or has the guts to ask. Here at NJIT we get 250 mill in
> military grants for developing nuclear technology.  We got feds and
> military all over the place on a constant basis.  A friend of mine in
> the military who graduated from school here saw first hand the
> nuclear agensts we have.  This school has all the materials to
> contruct a working A bomb big enough to blow up the entire East Cost
> and then some.  So take your stupid ass comments to yourself and go
> live in your fantasy land.  I bet you all believe in Jesus Christ
> too, the worlds best scam artist to date.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
>
>
> Uhm, no, if you buy a game... You're guying a LICENSE to it. It's the
> same with windows.
>
> Otherwise it'd be completely legal to download the HL source code
> after buying the game and doing whatever you want with it.
>
> Or heck. For you to stick it on a website for users to download
> from... So... Also, when'd Valve become the US government? How is
> making people give you a part of what they earn off YOUR hard word
> government like? Further, the DNC list isn't a step to monitoring
> people. It's a step at allowing those people that're getting those
> phone calls to SUE the people calling them. The government isn't
> going to be listening to every phone call listening for telemarketers
> and suing them themselves. Geez.
>
> -
>
> To a later post... Yeah, true. They're not full all the time. But if
> they don't have the money to rent 40 copies of the game on 40
> computers at only $10 a month... Then why are they in business in the
> first place?
>
> Yes, $10 a month is steep. But heck. If only 15 people are in that 40
> computer café all the time then that's $10,800 a month. While that's
> only $400 a month for the HL licenses. Also, those are for EVERY
> Valve game. So that's not bad at all. (Oh, and just 2 people per
> month is $4320 so I think they're making plenty.)
>
> But, I think if you're going to be a business then you should be
> aware of the costs. I personally don't like the idea of somebody
> getting 'rich'(Fine, not the correct word) off a program they just
> spent $13 for per computer? Meanwhile for each of those computers
> they'll get that $13 back within a couple hours per computer.
>
> ~
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Fernicola
>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:51 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres
>>
>> Ya thats BS if you pay money for a game its Freaking your property.
>> If I wan

Re: [hlds_linux] License fees for LAN gaming centres

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Garner
On Friday, October 24, 2003 3:03 PM NZT,
Brett Fernicola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First off if you don't think the Do Not Call service is not a step
> towards big brother then you got your eyes closed.  My IT Professor
> worked for both the NSA, and the FBI, and he fully agrees that Do
> Not Call if a form of Big Brother.
>

HAAHahahaha

-Simon


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RE: [ot][hlds_linux] Content hosting provided by...

2003-10-23 Thread Drew Broadley
It will try the A Record for the domain, if there is no MX record, THEN
fail if there is no SMTP Server on that IP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mad
Scientist
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ot][hlds_linux] Content hosting provided by...



According to the great words of Drew Broadley:
> BTW: You don’t NEED an mx record on a domain unless mail for that
> domain goes to another IP.

Another IP compared to what? It needs an MX record for mail to be
delivered. If there is no MX, remote mail servers will drop the mail.

-Mad

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proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."

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