Re: [hlds_linux] metamod for hlds_amd64

2004-02-22 Thread peter
Are my problems perhaps related to this:

-rwxr--r--1 yo   users  232529 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd
-rwxr--r--1 yo   users   78782 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd64
-rwxr--r--1 yo   users  234609 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i486
-rwxr--r--1 yo   users  233841 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i686

hlds_amd64 is a lot smaller than the rest of them, it must be missing something.
This could be what is causing metamod to have problems.

My metamod compile for AMD64 bit is available if anyone else wishes to do some
testing:

http://www.holcroft.net/~cheesy/metamod_amd64.so

Peter.

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 All you have to do is change -march=i386 to -march=k8 and recompile
 apparently.
 There's was an .so posted in the metamod list that again apparently worked.

 I say this because I have tried that version too and got a load of errors. I
 recompiled it myself and got exactly the same errors again. They make no
 sense
 to me, perhaps they do to someone else:

Metamod version 1.17  Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Will Day
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Metamod comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `meta gpl'.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `meta gpl' for details.

 File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
 File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
 Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitAuthentication() :
 Sys_ShutdownAuthentication()
 Missing shutdown function for Host_Init( host_parms ) : Host_Shutdown()
 Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitLauncherInterface() :
 Sys_ShutdownLauncherInterface()
 Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitMemory() : Sys_ShutdownMemory()
 Missing shutdown function for Sys_Init() : Sys_Shutdown()
 Missing shutdown function for FileSystem_Init(basedir, (void
 *)filesystemFactory) : FileSystem_Shutdown()
 Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitArgv( m_OrigCmd ) : Sys_ShutdownArgv()


 My system:

 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 5
 model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
 stepping: 8
 cpu MHz : 1991.478
 cache size  : 1024 KB
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 1
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
 cmov
 pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
 bogomips: 3971.48
 TLB size: 1088 4K pages
 clflush size: 64
 address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
 power management: ts ttp

 processor   : 1
 vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 5
 model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
 stepping: 8
 cpu MHz : 1991.478
 cache size  : 1024 KB
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 1
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
 cmov
 pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
 bogomips: 3971.48
 TLB size: 1088 4K pages
 clflush size: 64
 address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
 power management: ts ttp


 Quoting Alastair Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  It is possible, but as of yet, I haven't figured out how to compile
  metamod. 64-bit or not.  There is some dark art in getting the
  directories correct, mixing it with various different SDK's and so on.
 
  If somebody gives me a step by step guide on how you should compile it I
  will knock up a 64-bit binary, but then again, anybody who gives me the
  guide could probably just do it themself.
 
  kt wrote:
   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
   Does anyone know if metamod will work for a opteron, or hlds_amd64
  binaries? For linux that is.. if so, where could i download them? or will
 the
  current metamod_i386.so work just fine?
  
   Is it possible for me to compile metamod for the opteron?
  
   Regards,
   Tariq
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Re: [hlds_linux] What's the meaning of the pingboost-values ?

2004-02-22 Thread Yury Pshenichny
Alastair Grant wrote:

For those of you with pingboost questions, here's the old explanation
of how the -pingboost options work, as posted by Alfred
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, July 12, 2002:
All the pingboot modes attempt to reduce the latency caused by the
server.
The default implementation adds around 20msec to each players ping
(under linux).
Mode 1 reduces this by using a different wait method (a select()
call). This method reduces the latency to 10msec.
Mode 2 uses a similar but slightly different method (and alarm() type
call). Again, the result it 10msec worth of latency being added. NOTE
that this method has the potential to hang a server in certain
(terminal) situations. If anyone has used this mode recently (not the
first test we did!) and it hangs please speak up :)
Mode 3 minimises the latency to the minimum possible level by
processing a frame EVERY time a packet arrives. This causes the lowest
possible latency, but can also cause extreme CPU usages (it does a
complete frame for every packet, with each player sending lots of
packets per second and 30 players this adds up to insane amounts of
frames). Use this mode at your own risk, it will consume all available
CPU, don't complain that cstrike uses too much CPU if you use this mode
:-)  In a future release this mode will be tweaked to let the admin
balance latencies agains CPU usage (by processing a frame every N
packets).
There is also an external modules called pingbooster by UDPSoft (or is
it UDPSoftware?). They implement something like mode 3. As this is an
external module, and was built for an older version of HL (1108) it may
not work properly any longer, and future releases may (accidently) break
it.
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In fact, this old explantation is simply wrong, while was quoted many
and many times on hlds_linux last year.
Should be:
[...]

Mode 2 reduces this by using a different wait method (a select()
call). This method reduces the latency to 10msec.
Mode 1 uses a similar but slightly different method (and alarm() type
call). Again, the result it 10msec worth of latency being added. NOTE
that this method has the potential to hang a server in certain
(terminal) situations. If anyone has used this mode recently (not the
first test we did!) and it hangs please speak up :)
[...]

For those, who still doubts in my words - simply run strace on a hlds
process and look on output.
Yury Pshenichny.

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[hlds_linux] intel cpu w/ 1m L2 cache.

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Luk
i just came across intel's page and found that there are 3.2G(EE) CPU 
with 1M L2 cahce. any one have tried it before?

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/showchart.aspx?mmID=857353,857995,852351catID=7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15

further, for intel 3.2G, there are models with
1. (3.2GEE) 512k L2 + 2M L3,
2. (3.2GE) 1M L2 + no L3 and
3. (3.2G) 512k L2 + no L3.
any comments on performance with recent HLDS performance?
btw, i got an 2.8C already running an dod 32ppl server, just fine w/ 
75% CPU loading but low enough ping for local users (~40). i will 
purchase an 2.8E in the next few days with the same intel D865PERL main 
board as my old one. just wonder is there any performance gain with 
larger L2 cache. the theory ppl taught a while for internal cahce vs 
HLDS performance. any comments?

chris

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Re: [hlds_linux] intel cpu w/ 1m L2 cache.

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Luk
UPDATE: should be 3.2G(E) with 1M L2 cache, not 3.2G(EE).

Christopher Luk wrote:

i just came across intel's page and found that there are 3.2G(EE) CPU 
with 1M L2 cahce. any one have tried it before?

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/showchart.aspx?mmID=857353,857995,852351catID=7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15 

further, for intel 3.2G, there are models with
1. (3.2GEE) 512k L2 + 2M L3,
2. (3.2GE) 1M L2 + no L3 and
3. (3.2G) 512k L2 + no L3.
any comments on performance with recent HLDS performance?
btw, i got an 2.8C already running an dod 32ppl server, just fine w/ 
75% CPU loading but low enough ping for local users (~40). i will 
purchase an 2.8E in the next few days with the same intel D865PERL 
main board as my old one. just wonder is there any performance gain 
with larger L2 cache. the theory ppl taught a while for internal cahce 
vs HLDS performance. any comments?

chris

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[hlds_linux] DoD 1.1 Server Crash: uninitialized sizebuf_t: ???

2004-02-22 Thread Husayn ibn al-Samarqandi
Folks:

Have any of y'all seen this one:

L 02/22/2004 - 10:17:39: FATAL ERROR (shutting down): SZ_GetSpace:  Tried 
to write to an uninitialized sizebuf_t: ???
FATAL ERROR (shutting down): SZ_GetSpace:  Tried to write to an 
uninitialized sizebuf_t: ???


Insane Husayn


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Re: [hlds_linux] DoD 1.1 Server Crash: uninitialized sizebuf_t: ???

2004-02-22 Thread Florian Zschocke
Husayn ibn al-Samarqandi wrote:

Have any of y'all seen this one:
Are you runnig bots on that server? This happens when some 
functions are executed on bots.

Florian

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Re: [hlds_linux] intel cpu w/ 1m L2 cache.

2004-02-22 Thread Kevin J. Anderson
yes, you will see a speed increase with the larger cache sizes.

kev

Christopher Luk wrote:
UPDATE: should be 3.2G(E) with 1M L2 cache, not 3.2G(EE).

Christopher Luk wrote:

i just came across intel's page and found that there are 3.2G(EE) CPU 
with 1M L2 cahce. any one have tried it before?

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/showchart.aspx?mmID=857353,857995,852351catID=7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15 

further, for intel 3.2G, there are models with
1. (3.2GEE) 512k L2 + 2M L3,
2. (3.2GE) 1M L2 + no L3 and
3. (3.2G) 512k L2 + no L3.
any comments on performance with recent HLDS performance?
btw, i got an 2.8C already running an dod 32ppl server, just fine w/ 
75% CPU loading but low enough ping for local users (~40). i will 
purchase an 2.8E in the next few days with the same intel D865PERL 
main board as my old one. just wonder is there any performance gain 
with larger L2 cache. the theory ppl taught a while for internal cahce 
vs HLDS performance. any comments?

chris

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Re: [hlds_linux] DoD 1.1 Server Crash: uninitialized sizebuf_t: ???

2004-02-22 Thread Husayn ibn al-Samarqandi
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Florian Zschocke wrote:

 Husayn ibn al-Samarqandi wrote:
 
  Have any of y'all seen this one:
 
 Are you runnig bots on that server? This happens when some 
 functions are executed on bots.
 
 Florian

Aha! Yep. Sturmbots. The buggers. Thanks!

Insane Husayn


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[hlds_linux] reliable channel overflow

2004-02-22 Thread scripted_sequence


hello!

i keep getting this error after appx 1 day of uptime of my servers...

it blocks new clients from connecting,
but already connected players are not affected by that.
however once it occured it stays and i have to restart hlds

###

SZ_GetSpace: overflow on netchan-message
WARNING: reliable overflow for urclientsnickhere

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[hlds_linux] All ip's banned in DoD

2004-02-22 Thread Mikkel Georgsen
Hey all

Tonight a customer complained that all IPs were banned on his server. I
investigated and found no banned.cfg in the dod server dir. I restarted
the server and all ips were still banned.

I then wrote listip and listid in the console and it showed no bans at
all. I then deletede the entire server and created a new - still same
problem. if I start CS from the same server dir everything is fine.

The DoD server starts normally and everything looks just fine in
logs/console.

I have no idea what to do, please advice :]

- Miklos
Clanhost.dk

hostname:  [CH] #Won.id @ Quakenet
version :  47/1.1.2.4/Stdio 2637 secure
tcp/ip  :  217.116.241.3:1
map :  dod_donner at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
players :  0 active (12 max)




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Re: [hlds_linux] All ip's banned in DoD

2004-02-22 Thread Steven Hartland
Global key / ip bans?

Steve / K
- Original Message - 
From: Mikkel Georgsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] All ip's banned in DoD


 Hey all
 
 Tonight a customer complained that all IPs were banned on his server. I
 investigated and found no banned.cfg in the dod server dir. I restarted
 the server and all ips were still banned.
 
 I then wrote listip and listid in the console and it showed no bans at
 all. I then deletede the entire server and created a new - still same
 problem. if I start CS from the same server dir everything is fine.
 
 The DoD server starts normally and everything looks just fine in
 logs/console.
 
 I have no idea what to do, please advice :]
 
 - Miklos
 Clanhost.dk
 
 hostname:  [CH] #Won.id @ Quakenet
 version :  47/1.1.2.4/Stdio 2637 secure
 tcp/ip  :  217.116.241.3:1
 map :  dod_donner at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
 players :  0 active (12 max)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] metamod for hlds_amd64

2004-02-22 Thread Tony Bussen
Looks like that's your problem.  My hlds_amd64 is 2053126 bytes.  All
you should have to do is delete that file and run the steam update
command.


On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 04:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are my problems perhaps related to this:
 
 -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  232529 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd
 -rwxr--r--1 yo   users   78782 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd64
 -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  234609 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i486
 -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  233841 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i686
 
 hlds_amd64 is a lot smaller than the rest of them, it must be missing something.
 This could be what is causing metamod to have problems.
 
 My metamod compile for AMD64 bit is available if anyone else wishes to do some
 testing:
 
 http://www.holcroft.net/~cheesy/metamod_amd64.so
 
 Peter.
 
 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  All you have to do is change -march=i386 to -march=k8 and recompile
  apparently.
  There's was an .so posted in the metamod list that again apparently worked.
 
  I say this because I have tried that version too and got a load of errors. I
  recompiled it myself and got exactly the same errors again. They make no
  sense
  to me, perhaps they do to someone else:
 
 Metamod version 1.17  Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Will Day
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Metamod comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `meta gpl'.
 This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
 under certain conditions; type `meta gpl' for details.
 
  File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
  File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
  Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitAuthentication() :
  Sys_ShutdownAuthentication()
  Missing shutdown function for Host_Init( host_parms ) : Host_Shutdown()
  Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitLauncherInterface() :
  Sys_ShutdownLauncherInterface()
  Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitMemory() : Sys_ShutdownMemory()
  Missing shutdown function for Sys_Init() : Sys_Shutdown()
  Missing shutdown function for FileSystem_Init(basedir, (void
  *)filesystemFactory) : FileSystem_Shutdown()
  Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitArgv( m_OrigCmd ) : Sys_ShutdownArgv()
 
 
  My system:
 
  processor   : 0
  vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
  cpu family  : 15
  model   : 5
  model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
  stepping: 8
  cpu MHz : 1991.478
  cache size  : 1024 KB
  fpu : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level : 1
  wp  : yes
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
  cmov
  pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
  bogomips: 3971.48
  TLB size: 1088 4K pages
  clflush size: 64
  address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  power management: ts ttp
 
  processor   : 1
  vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
  cpu family  : 15
  model   : 5
  model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
  stepping: 8
  cpu MHz : 1991.478
  cache size  : 1024 KB
  fpu : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level : 1
  wp  : yes
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
  cmov
  pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
  bogomips: 3971.48
  TLB size: 1088 4K pages
  clflush size: 64
  address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  power management: ts ttp
 
 
  Quoting Alastair Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   It is possible, but as of yet, I haven't figured out how to compile
   metamod. 64-bit or not.  There is some dark art in getting the
   directories correct, mixing it with various different SDK's and so on.
  
   If somebody gives me a step by step guide on how you should compile it I
   will knock up a 64-bit binary, but then again, anybody who gives me the
   guide could probably just do it themself.
  
   kt wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
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Does anyone know if metamod will work for a opteron, or hlds_amd64
   binaries? For linux that is.. if so, where could i download them? or will
  the
   current metamod_i386.so work just fine?
   
Is it possible for me to compile metamod for the opteron?
   
Regards,
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Re: [hlds_linux] intel cpu w/ 1m L2 cache.

2004-02-22 Thread Matt D
while the EE (extreme edition) P4 is certainly faster at
pretty much everything, the E class (prescott) P4's may
not be *any* faster at HLDS than the older C (northwood)
P4's.

These new E pentium 4 are a totally new design on the
core, and as such have been desgned to run at higher
frequencies.
Essentially they are
 - same speed as equivalent clock C P4
 - much greater heat output 10-20% more (and way more than
ANY athlon ;-)
 - longer pipeline to enable greater clockspeeds
 - larger L2 cache to improve performance

The larger cache should make the core faster, but this gets
offset by the deeper pipeline which is a performance
penalty, especially when cache preloads are incorrect (cache
misses).

There are about a bazillion reviews on the various hardware
sites that all say the same thing...at identical clock
speeds the E prescott is a bad buy due to the heat penalty
with no performance gain, but once the clock speed ramps up,
the prescott architecture will be worthwhile

The Extreme Edition P4 (avaliable in both 3.2 and 3.4ghz
variants) is essentially a gallatin xeon with 2 mb L2 cache
shoehorned into the normal P4 socket 478, otherwise
architecturally its identical to the northwood P4.**
The extra cache seems to make a fairly appreciable
difference to many things, including serving games, I've
used mine to do 64 player WolfET with much success.

Matt

**note: the fact that intel can take a xeon and make it into
a desktop chip is more evidence to suggest that P4 and xeon
are pretty much identical cpus in different packages. The
biggest performance difference between the two is the mobo
chipset that connects them to the rest of the world.



 yes, you will see a speed increase with the larger cache
 sizes.

 kev


 Christopher Luk wrote:
  UPDATE: should be 3.2G(E) with 1M L2 cache, not
  3.2G(EE).
  Christopher Luk wrote:
 
  i just came across intel's page and found that there
 are 3.2G(EE) CPU   with 1M L2 cahce. any one have tried
 it before? 
 

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/showchart.aspx?mmID=857353
,857995,852351catID=7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
 
 
  further, for intel 3.2G, there are models with
  1. (3.2GEE) 512k L2 + 2M L3,
  2. (3.2GE) 1M L2 + no L3 and
  3. (3.2G) 512k L2 + no L3.
  any comments on performance with recent HLDS
 performance? 
  btw, i got an 2.8C already running an dod 32ppl server,
 just fine w/   75% CPU loading but low enough ping for
 local users (~40). i will   purchase an 2.8E in the next
 few days with the same intel D865PERL   main board as my
 old one. just wonder is there any performance gain  
 with larger L2 cache. the theory ppl taught a while for
 internal cahce   vs HLDS performance. any comments?
 
  chris
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] metamod for hlds_amd64

2004-02-22 Thread peter
I did just before I posted this to be sure. Send me your version in a email
please? :D

Quoting Tony Bussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Looks like that's your problem.  My hlds_amd64 is 2053126 bytes.  All
 you should have to do is delete that file and run the steam update
 command.
 
 
 On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 04:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are my problems perhaps related to this:
  
  -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  232529 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd
  -rwxr--r--1 yo   users   78782 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd64
  -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  234609 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i486
  -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  233841 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i686
  
  hlds_amd64 is a lot smaller than the rest of them, it must be missing
 something.
  This could be what is causing metamod to have problems.
  
  My metamod compile for AMD64 bit is available if anyone else wishes to do
 some
  testing:
  
  http://www.holcroft.net/~cheesy/metamod_amd64.so
  
  Peter.
  
  Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   All you have to do is change -march=i386 to -march=k8 and recompile
   apparently.
   There's was an .so posted in the metamod list that again apparently
 worked.
  
   I say this because I have tried that version too and got a load of
 errors. I
   recompiled it myself and got exactly the same errors again. They make no
   sense
   to me, perhaps they do to someone else:
  
  Metamod version 1.17  Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Will Day
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Metamod comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `meta
 gpl'.
  This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
  under certain conditions; type `meta gpl' for details.
  
   File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
   File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
   Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitAuthentication() :
   Sys_ShutdownAuthentication()
   Missing shutdown function for Host_Init( host_parms ) : Host_Shutdown()
   Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitLauncherInterface() :
   Sys_ShutdownLauncherInterface()
   Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitMemory() : Sys_ShutdownMemory()
   Missing shutdown function for Sys_Init() : Sys_Shutdown()
   Missing shutdown function for FileSystem_Init(basedir, (void
   *)filesystemFactory) : FileSystem_Shutdown()
   Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitArgv( m_OrigCmd ) :
 Sys_ShutdownArgv()
  
  
   My system:
  
   processor   : 0
   vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
   cpu family  : 15
   model   : 5
   model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
   stepping: 8
   cpu MHz : 1991.478
   cache size  : 1024 KB
   fpu : yes
   fpu_exception   : yes
   cpuid level : 1
   wp  : yes
   flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
 mca
   cmov
   pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
   bogomips: 3971.48
   TLB size: 1088 4K pages
   clflush size: 64
   address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
   power management: ts ttp
  
   processor   : 1
   vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
   cpu family  : 15
   model   : 5
   model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
   stepping: 8
   cpu MHz : 1991.478
   cache size  : 1024 KB
   fpu : yes
   fpu_exception   : yes
   cpuid level : 1
   wp  : yes
   flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
 mca
   cmov
   pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
   bogomips: 3971.48
   TLB size: 1088 4K pages
   clflush size: 64
   address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
   power management: ts ttp
  
  
   Quoting Alastair Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
It is possible, but as of yet, I haven't figured out how to compile
metamod. 64-bit or not.  There is some dark art in getting the
directories correct, mixing it with various different SDK's and so on.
   
If somebody gives me a step by step guide on how you should compile it
 I
will knock up a 64-bit binary, but then again, anybody who gives me
 the
guide could probably just do it themself.
   
kt wrote:
 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Does anyone know if metamod will work for a opteron, or hlds_amd64
binaries? For linux that is.. if so, where could i download them? or
 will
   the
current metamod_i386.so work just fine?

 Is it possible for me to compile metamod for the opteron?

 Regards,
 Tariq
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Re: [hlds_linux] metamod for hlds_amd64

2004-02-22 Thread Tony Bussen
Doh,

I read the wrong file to you.  My engine_amd64 is that size, not
hlds_amd64.  Here's PART of my directory listing:

-rw-r--r--4 hlds hlds 1330 Feb  9 19:29
InstallRecord.blob
-rw-r--r--4 hlds hlds   381384 Jan 25 14:26 core_i386.so
-rw-r--r--3 hlds hlds  2667819 Feb  9 19:26 engine_amd.so
-rw-r--r--3 hlds hlds  2053126 Feb  9 19:26 engine_amd64.so
-rw-r--r--3 hlds hlds  2677924 Feb  9 19:26 engine_i486.so
-rw-r--r--3 hlds hlds  2659812 Feb  9 19:26 engine_i686.so
-rw-r--r--3 hlds hlds   171762 Feb  9 19:26
filesystem_stdio_amd64.so
-rw-r--r--3 hlds hlds   242182 Feb  9 19:26
filesystem_stdio_i386.so
-rwxr--r--4 hlds hlds   232529 Nov 13 00:36 hlds_amd
-rwxr--r--4 hlds hlds78782 Nov 13 00:36 hlds_amd64
-rwxr--r--4 hlds hlds   234609 Nov 13 00:36 hlds_i486
-rwxr--r--4 hlds hlds   233841 Nov 13 00:37 hlds_i686
-rwxr--r--4 hlds hlds 9789 Sep 15 13:55 hlds_run
-rwxr--r--4 hlds hlds   255912 Nov 13 00:37 hltv
-rw-r--r--4 hlds hlds  2789611 Jan 25 14:27
libSteamValidateUserIDTickets_amd64.so
-rw-r--r--4 hlds hlds  3572199 Jan 25 14:28
libSteamValidateUserIDTickets_i386.so
-rw-r--r--4 hlds hlds  2384042 Jan 25 14:28 proxy_i386.so
-rwxr-xr-x2 hlds hlds  7025211 Dec 18 12:31 steam


You may want to try removing ~/.steam/ClientRegistry.blob or
hlds_l/InstallRecord.blob and try updating again.

T

On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 14:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did just before I posted this to be sure. Send me your version in a email
 please? :D
 
 Quoting Tony Bussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Looks like that's your problem.  My hlds_amd64 is 2053126 bytes.  All
  you should have to do is delete that file and run the steam update
  command.
  
  
  On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 04:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Are my problems perhaps related to this:
   
   -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  232529 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd
   -rwxr--r--1 yo   users   78782 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_amd64
   -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  234609 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i486
   -rwxr--r--1 yo   users  233841 2004-02-22 12:21 hlds_i686
   
   hlds_amd64 is a lot smaller than the rest of them, it must be missing
  something.
   This could be what is causing metamod to have problems.
   
   My metamod compile for AMD64 bit is available if anyone else wishes to do
  some
   testing:
   
   http://www.holcroft.net/~cheesy/metamod_amd64.so
   
   Peter.
   
   Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
All you have to do is change -march=i386 to -march=k8 and recompile
apparently.
There's was an .so posted in the metamod list that again apparently
  worked.
   
I say this because I have tried that version too and got a load of
  errors. I
recompiled it myself and got exactly the same errors again. They make no
sense
to me, perhaps they do to someone else:
   
   Metamod version 1.17  Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Will Day
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Metamod comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `meta
  gpl'.
   This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
   under certain conditions; type `meta gpl' for details.
   
File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
File /home/yo/server3/hlds_l/./nsp/liblist.gam was never closed
Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitAuthentication() :
Sys_ShutdownAuthentication()
Missing shutdown function for Host_Init( host_parms ) : Host_Shutdown()
Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitLauncherInterface() :
Sys_ShutdownLauncherInterface()
Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitMemory() : Sys_ShutdownMemory()
Missing shutdown function for Sys_Init() : Sys_Shutdown()
Missing shutdown function for FileSystem_Init(basedir, (void
*)filesystemFactory) : FileSystem_Shutdown()
Missing shutdown function for Sys_InitArgv( m_OrigCmd ) :
  Sys_ShutdownArgv()
   
   
My system:
   
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 5
model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
stepping: 8
cpu MHz : 1991.478
cache size  : 1024 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
  mca
cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips: 3971.48
TLB size: 1088 4K pages
clflush size: 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp
   
processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 5
model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246
stepping: 8
cpu MHz : 

Re: [hlds_linux] intel cpu w/ 1m L2 cache.

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher Luk
it sounds that EE should be the best choice for new cpu besides prices. 
and E doesn't have too many difference from C besides heat penalty.

however, Xeon series doesn't do too good on HLDS as expected while 
somebody talk about it in the past (btw, i have no budget to try xeon 
cpu  mb, can't confirm). it drive me to something interested like HLDS 
(or the compiler) *may* have problem on cache management with certain 
limit of L2/L3 cache (correct me if i m wrong). so that even the 
architecture is good enough, the performance won't boost as expected. 
anyone can comments on?

chris

Matt D wrote:

while the EE (extreme edition) P4 is certainly faster at
pretty much everything, the E class (prescott) P4's may
not be *any* faster at HLDS than the older C (northwood)
P4's.
These new E pentium 4 are a totally new design on the
core, and as such have been desgned to run at higher
frequencies.
Essentially they are
- same speed as equivalent clock C P4
- much greater heat output 10-20% more (and way more than
ANY athlon ;-)
- longer pipeline to enable greater clockspeeds
- larger L2 cache to improve performance
The larger cache should make the core faster, but this gets
offset by the deeper pipeline which is a performance
penalty, especially when cache preloads are incorrect (cache
misses).
There are about a bazillion reviews on the various hardware
sites that all say the same thing...at identical clock
speeds the E prescott is a bad buy due to the heat penalty
with no performance gain, but once the clock speed ramps up,
the prescott architecture will be worthwhile
The Extreme Edition P4 (avaliable in both 3.2 and 3.4ghz
variants) is essentially a gallatin xeon with 2 mb L2 cache
shoehorned into the normal P4 socket 478, otherwise
architecturally its identical to the northwood P4.**
The extra cache seems to make a fairly appreciable
difference to many things, including serving games, I've
used mine to do 64 player WolfET with much success.
Matt

**note: the fact that intel can take a xeon and make it into
a desktop chip is more evidence to suggest that P4 and xeon
are pretty much identical cpus in different packages. The
biggest performance difference between the two is the mobo
chipset that connects them to the rest of the world.
 

yes, you will see a speed increase with the larger cache
sizes.
kev

Christopher Luk wrote:
   

UPDATE: should be 3.2G(E) with 1M L2 cache, not
3.2G(EE).
Christopher Luk wrote:
 

i just came across intel's page and found that there
   

are 3.2G(EE) CPU   with 1M L2 cahce. any one have tried
it before? 
   

http://indigo.intel.com/compare_cpu/showchart.aspx?mmID=857353
,857995,852351catID=7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
 

further, for intel 3.2G, there are models with
1. (3.2GEE) 512k L2 + 2M L3,
2. (3.2GE) 1M L2 + no L3 and
3. (3.2G) 512k L2 + no L3.
any comments on performance with recent HLDS
   

performance? 
   

btw, i got an 2.8C already running an dod 32ppl server,
   

just fine w/   75% CPU loading but low enough ping for
local users (~40). i will   purchase an 2.8E in the next
few days with the same intel D865PERL   main board as my
old one. just wonder is there any performance gain  
with larger L2 cache. the theory ppl taught a while for
internal cahce   vs HLDS performance. any comments?
   

chris

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