RE: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated

2004-04-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
actually that is the 5th update in 5 days...


--- Jay Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2 updates in 2 days?
>
> Am I on the right list? This is the VALVE mailing list, right?
>
>
> Jay
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> Jay Carter
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
> Shaffner
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated
>
> Once again, VAC has been updated.
>
> * More cheat detections added.
>
> I would also like to reiterate that cheating is a violation of
> Valve's
> standard End User License Agreement.
>
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RE: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

2004-04-10 Thread Toby
Oh my... Yes!!! .. Ban them from being able to log into Steam completely..
hahahaha..

Cheaters beware, you cheat on one game and you will be banned from all
online games offered via steam..

Wee.. Cheaters are quivering in their socks


Toby



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric (Deacon)
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

In a bold display of creativity, Para wrote:
> The massive Updates of VAC seems to be a dream to me, but because of
> this, I was thinking about a list of wishes about VAC, that will make
> all admins and all players happy.

I would also like to add the idea of banning at the source: Steam/WON.
If you're caught cheating, don't ban from a particular server.  Ban from
being able to get on at all to any Steam/WON server.

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Re: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

2004-04-10 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Para wrote:
The massive Updates of VAC seems to be a dream to me, but because of
this, I was thinking about a list of wishes about VAC, that will make
all admins and all players happy.
I would also like to add the idea of banning at the source: Steam/WON.
If you're caught cheating, don't ban from a particular server.  Ban from
being able to get on at all to any Steam/WON server.
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AW: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated

2004-04-10 Thread S. Zimmermann
Thanks Nick,

keep up the good work!



-> Once again, VAC has been updated.
->
-> * More cheat detections added.
->
-> I would also like to reiterate that cheating is a violation of Valve's
-> standard End User License Agreement.
->
->  Nick
-> --
-> Nick Shaffner
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RE: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

2004-04-10 Thread Nick Shaffner
Additionally, please feel free to e-mail me links to cheat sites or send
me binaries that you suspect we haven't detected yet. (Note I said
E-MAIL, not 'Post To The List').  I could be inclined to offer a
non-monetary reward to the first person to provide me with the beta
version of unreleased major cheats.

Nick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kingsley
Foreman
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

Id just be happy with it getting some of the opengl hacks that have been
arround for a long long time

- Original Message -
From: "Para" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:25 AM
Subject: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat


> The massive Updates of VAC seems to be a dream to me, but because of
> this, I was thinking about a list of wishes about VAC, that will make
> all admins and all players happy.
>
> - Updates at least weekly
>Keep Vac alive and make regulary updates. At least once a week! I
> compare AntiCheatingPrograms with AntiVirusPrograms and nothing is
> less senseless as AV with obsolte detections. This is the same with
> AntiCheating. Regulary Updates are neccesary and nothing else will
help.
>
> - Use of delayed Banns
>With every Update of Vac many Cheaters wait untill someone says
> that this or that cheat is not detected and in this moment many are
> start using it. If Vac is not banning instantly, maybee only logging
> and banning after a day, three days or even a week there will be much
> more fear of using cheats and also much more effective detection.
>
> - Alternate Logging of Vac Action
>While working as admin for some servers I will be happy about a
> logging file for vac actions. I want to see, who is banned on my
> server and searching in the complete log files is to much work This
> should also work with delayes if there ist a use of delayed banns.
>
> - At least 24 hour between Update and News about Update
>Yes, I am curious like a cat, but if I know about an update, every
> cheaters knows also about it.Waiting just 24 hours with the news will
> help effective AntiCheat.
>
> End of my list of wishes, but i think there will be much more of the
> other admins!  Feel free to complete.
> Para
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Re: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

2004-04-10 Thread RiGo
I totally agree with this.

I would like to see a cvar where it would be possible to log VAC-actions into
seperate log instead of serverlog.
Para schrieb:

The massive Updates of VAC seems to be a dream to me, but because of
this, I was thinking about a list of wishes about VAC, that will make
all admins and all players happy.
- Updates at least weekly
  Keep Vac alive and make regulary updates. At least once a week! I
compare AntiCheatingPrograms with AntiVirusPrograms and nothing is less
senseless as AV with obsolte detections. This is the same with
AntiCheating. Regulary Updates are neccesary and nothing else will help.
- Use of delayed Banns
  With every Update of Vac many Cheaters wait untill someone says that
this or that cheat is not detected and in this moment many are start
using it. If Vac is not banning instantly, maybee only logging and
banning after a day, three days or even a week there will be much more
fear of using cheats and also much more effective detection.
- Alternate Logging of Vac Action
  While working as admin for some servers I will be happy about a
logging file for vac actions. I want to see, who is banned on my server
and searching in the complete log files is to much work This should also
work with delayes if there ist a use of delayed banns.
- At least 24 hour between Update and News about Update
  Yes, I am curious like a cat, but if I know about an update, every
cheaters knows also about it.Waiting just 24 hours with the news will
help effective AntiCheat.
End of my list of wishes, but i think there will be much more of the
other admins!  Feel free to complete.
Para
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Re: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

2004-04-10 Thread Kingsley Foreman
Id just be happy with it getting some of the opengl hacks
that have been arround for a long long time

- Original Message -
From: "Para" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:25 AM
Subject: [hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat


> The massive Updates of VAC seems to be a dream to me, but because of
> this, I was thinking about a list of wishes about VAC, that will make
> all admins and all players happy.
>
> - Updates at least weekly
>Keep Vac alive and make regulary updates. At least once a week! I
> compare AntiCheatingPrograms with AntiVirusPrograms and nothing is less
> senseless as AV with obsolte detections. This is the same with
> AntiCheating. Regulary Updates are neccesary and nothing else will help.
>
> - Use of delayed Banns
>With every Update of Vac many Cheaters wait untill someone says that
> this or that cheat is not detected and in this moment many are start
> using it. If Vac is not banning instantly, maybee only logging and
> banning after a day, three days or even a week there will be much more
> fear of using cheats and also much more effective detection.
>
> - Alternate Logging of Vac Action
>While working as admin for some servers I will be happy about a
> logging file for vac actions. I want to see, who is banned on my server
> and searching in the complete log files is to much work This should also
> work with delayes if there ist a use of delayed banns.
>
> - At least 24 hour between Update and News about Update
>Yes, I am curious like a cat, but if I know about an update, every
> cheaters knows also about it.Waiting just 24 hours with the news will
> help effective AntiCheat.
>
> End of my list of wishes, but i think there will be much more of the
> other admins!  Feel free to complete.
> Para
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[hlds_linux] list of wishes about VAC/AntiCheat

2004-04-10 Thread Para
The massive Updates of VAC seems to be a dream to me, but because of
this, I was thinking about a list of wishes about VAC, that will make
all admins and all players happy.
- Updates at least weekly
  Keep Vac alive and make regulary updates. At least once a week! I
compare AntiCheatingPrograms with AntiVirusPrograms and nothing is less
senseless as AV with obsolte detections. This is the same with
AntiCheating. Regulary Updates are neccesary and nothing else will help.
- Use of delayed Banns
  With every Update of Vac many Cheaters wait untill someone says that
this or that cheat is not detected and in this moment many are start
using it. If Vac is not banning instantly, maybee only logging and
banning after a day, three days or even a week there will be much more
fear of using cheats and also much more effective detection.
- Alternate Logging of Vac Action
  While working as admin for some servers I will be happy about a
logging file for vac actions. I want to see, who is banned on my server
and searching in the complete log files is to much work This should also
work with delayes if there ist a use of delayed banns.
- At least 24 hour between Update and News about Update
  Yes, I am curious like a cat, but if I know about an update, every
cheaters knows also about it.Waiting just 24 hours with the news will
help effective AntiCheat.
End of my list of wishes, but i think there will be much more of the
other admins!  Feel free to complete.
Para
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Re: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated

2004-04-10 Thread RiGo
Grins.

I think this is a late april joke ;)
Just kidding.
Keep it going Valve. Cheaters are flaming in their boards :]
And list of undetected stuff is getting shorter and shorter.
Jay Carter schrieb:
2 updates in 2 days?

Am I on the right list? This is the VALVE mailing list, right?

Jay

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Shaffner
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated
Once again, VAC has been updated.

* More cheat detections added.

I would also like to reiterate that cheating is a violation of Valve's
standard End User License Agreement.
Nick
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Re: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated

2004-04-10 Thread Muldy
Jay Carter wrote:

2 updates in 2 days?

Am I on the right list? This is the VALVE mailing list, right?



Looks like VAC as been delegated to someone, to work on it :)

Great! :)

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Re: [hlds_linux] 4/9/04 VAC Updated

2004-04-10 Thread Daniel Stroven
Just grep for "Secure:"

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> Daniel Stroven wrote:
>
> >What days had the false detections?
> >I see 3 regulars in my logs listed for cheats.
> >All 3 on april 1st.
> >
> >
> Can you please post the log format of thos detections?
> So we know what to look for?
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Re: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated

2004-04-10 Thread Alex Brett
Actually, its been 5 updates in 5 days which is even better, at last
there seems to be a bit of focus on anti-cheat which is definately a
good thing as cheaters just ruin the game for all the other players -
keep going with the updates!
Jay Carter wrote:
2 updates in 2 days?

Am I on the right list? This is the VALVE mailing list, right?

Jay

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlds_linux] 4/10/04 VAC Updated
Once again, VAC has been updated.

* More cheat detections added.

I would also like to reiterate that cheating is a violation of Valve's
standard End User License Agreement.
Nick
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