Re: [hlds_linux] Re: VAC Banning

2005-10-28 Thread -=LE=- Doomed

Maybe you dont know what an addiction can do??? Let me explain youngin... It
hurts everyone around you/them..

I have an addictionmy addiction is so bad that I am willing to do what
ever it takes to get the next feeling for what ever I do

I dont know you at all, but ((your security where I am at)(your the girls
boyfriend)) I will get the next feeling even if I have to go through
you...

How am I hurting myself only??? I woke up in Jail, you woke up in the
Hospital???

I am a recovering addict and thats why im proud... To think an addict only
hurts the person who has the addiction, thats way wrongThe person hurts
everyone around him...

Either way back to the subject the best analogy would be VAC2, perm ban's
from HL2+mods and everyone one else that put VAC2 on their HL1 games(i
think everyone???)

As the post before if you want more go to steambans.com has nothing to do
with Steam but has everything to do with banning cheaters.
- Original Message -
From: devin812 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:30 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Re: VAC Banning



On 10/25/05, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Putting cheaters on MSNBC isn't going to help anything, just like
 tossing people with drug addictions in prison. It's a waste of
 resources, time and money.


I fail to see how putting people in prison who choose to hurt themselves
and
themselves alone can be analogous to putting people who hurt others
carelessly on display for all to see...

A better analogy would be the Sexual crime registry


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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: VAC Banning

2005-10-28 Thread Saint K.

U people should go and have a church meeting sunday...
- Original Message -
From: -=LE=- Doomed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Re: VAC Banning



Maybe you dont know what an addiction can do??? Let me explain youngin...
It
hurts everyone around you/them..

I have an addictionmy addiction is so bad that I am willing to do what
ever it takes to get the next feeling for what ever I do

I dont know you at all, but ((your security where I am at)(your the girls
boyfriend)) I will get the next feeling even if I have to go through
you...

How am I hurting myself only??? I woke up in Jail, you woke up in the
Hospital???

I am a recovering addict and thats why im proud... To think an addict only
hurts the person who has the addiction, thats way wrongThe person
hurts
everyone around him...

Either way back to the subject the best analogy would be VAC2, perm ban's
from HL2+mods and everyone one else that put VAC2 on their HL1 games(i
think everyone???)

As the post before if you want more go to steambans.com has nothing to do
with Steam but has everything to do with banning cheaters.
- Original Message -
From: devin812 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:30 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Re: VAC Banning



On 10/25/05, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Putting cheaters on MSNBC isn't going to help anything, just like
 tossing people with drug addictions in prison. It's a waste of
 resources, time and money.


I fail to see how putting people in prison who choose to hurt themselves
and
themselves alone can be analogous to putting people who hurt others
carelessly on display for all to see...

A better analogy would be the Sexual crime registry


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Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread sirtom__

As you should have read about it in the digest, Alfred already gave a statement 
about this:

When it's done.

We all don't want a binary that causes problems after release, or do we?

;-)


hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am 28.10.05 04:26:26:

 Will Vac 2 ever be released on AMD64 bit ? It is very harsh for a 64 bit
 machine to run 32 bit servers on it as it takes huge amounts of cpu usage
 and it is very inefficient.



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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: VAC Banning

2005-10-28 Thread Ben Kennish

Saint K. wrote:

U people should go and have a church meeting sunday...


LOL :)


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RE: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs (OT)

2005-10-28 Thread Simon Lange
Hi

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 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:25 AM
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 As you should have read about it in the digest, Alfred
 already gave a statement about this:

 When it's done.
oO
did 3drealms bought valve without the community's notice? ;)
since dukenukem4ever's release date anno domini 1997 was replaced with when
it's done speakers should be sensitive enough not to use this phrase.
however, dayofdefeat:source's soon was more than a year...

*shiver*

Simon


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Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread Joseph Laws

No, we don't.  I think that's why most GSP's will start pushing COD2,
Quake4 and F.E.A.R. instead of relying on VALVe to get their act
together.  The people playing the game are just as frustrated as those
who host it, perhaps a drop of players is just the medicine.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


As you should have read about it in the digest, Alfred already gave a statement 
about this:

When it's done.

We all don't want a binary that causes problems after release, or do we?

;-)


hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am 28.10.05 04:26:26:



Will Vac 2 ever be released on AMD64 bit ? It is very harsh for a 64 bit
machine to run 32 bit servers on it as it takes huge amounts of cpu usage
and it is very inefficient.



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Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread Michael Berkowitz
I am still very confused by how Valve could release a
VAC2 update without including all platforms.  What has
it been 4 months now and no 64bit version of va2.

Here is the press release from Valve on March 7, 2003
announcing 64bit support for Counter-Strike.
http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php?news=1047073952-21295300

By not providing 64 bit VAC2 they have dropped 64bit
support for CS but there has been no announcement.

Did I miss a press release from Valve or AMD
announcing them dropping 64bit support?

Did Intel pay them to stop supporting AMD?

Does AMD know that all of us that bought opterons to
run CS servers to get the bonus of running 64bit CS
have been been denied that benefit by valve for almost
half a year now?

We are closing in on a half a year without 64bit
support.  Come on valve, what's the deal.  You were
able to have good 64bit support for 2 years, what has
changed to stop 64bit support dead in its tracks?  At
least give us the truth.  I want my 30% performance
boost back!!!

In a straight port of code highly optimized for
x86-32, Counter-Strike dedicated server tests with
both 32- and 64-bit versions revealed a 30%
clock-for-clock gain, and is expected to show further
performance gains in future upgrades.

--- Joseph Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, we don't.  I think that's why most GSP's will
 start pushing COD2,
 Quake4 and F.E.A.R. instead of relying on VALVe to
 get their act
 together.  The people playing the game are just as
 frustrated as those
 who host it, perhaps a drop of players is just the
 medicine.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As you should have read about it in the digest,
 Alfred already gave a statement about this:
 
 When it's done.
 
 We all don't want a binary that causes problems
 after release, or do we?
 
 ;-)
 
 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am
 28.10.05 04:26:26:
 
 
 Will Vac 2 ever be released on AMD64 bit ? It is
 very harsh for a 64 bit
 machine to run 32 bit servers on it as it takes
 huge amounts of cpu usage
 and it is very inefficient.
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread Craig Moore
Would it be the first time? As far as I can tell, my CS:S still has a
memory leak and I've seen at least one release where we actually had
to update again to fix a problematic update. I wonder what the rest of
the gaming industry thinks about the involved parties.

On 10/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As you should have read about it in the digest, Alfred already gave a 
 statement about this:

 When it's done.

 We all don't want a binary that causes problems after release, or do we?

 ;-)


 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am 28.10.05 04:26:26:
 
  Will Vac 2 ever be released on AMD64 bit ? It is very harsh for a 64 bit
  machine to run 32 bit servers on it as it takes huge amounts of cpu usage
  and it is very inefficient.
 
 
 
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[hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Dagok
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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the 
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the 
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.  If 
using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on, and 
I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still 
does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses 
server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Eric (Deacon)

In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:

This is no joke.


Well then what is it?  If it's a general problem experienced with your
client, take it to the SteamPowered forums or wherever you get client
help where people can suggest things like updating your router's
firmware, etc.

If this is a problem where refreshing the server list causes your server
(or its connection) to go down, then we'd need to know that.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Dagok

ya know what, if you cant help then don't respond.  Posting on these lists
generally (your case excluded) gets a quicker, better and more accurate
response then using the troll infested Steam Forums, which seems to be where
you belong.  It also means that Alfred will see it, and he or someone at
Valve may have a solution.

Dagok


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From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server
list



In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:

This is no joke.


Well then what is it?  If it's a general problem experienced with your
client, take it to the SteamPowered forums or wherever you get client
help where people can suggest things like updating your router's
firmware, etc.

If this is a problem where refreshing the server list causes your server
(or its connection) to go down, then we'd need to know that.

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RE: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT

2005-10-28 Thread ray
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:44 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server
list

ya know what, if you cant help then don't respond.  Posting on these lists
generally (your case excluded) gets a quicker, better and more accurate
response then using the troll infested Steam Forums, which seems to be where
you belong.  It also means that Alfred will see it, and he or someone at
Valve may have a solution.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server
list


 In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:
 This is no joke.

 Well then what is it?  If it's a general problem experienced with your
 client, take it to the SteamPowered forums or wherever you get client
 help where people can suggest things like updating your router's
 firmware, etc.

 If this is a problem where refreshing the server list causes your server
 (or its connection) to go down, then we'd need to know that.

 --
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Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Craig Moore
This isn't a hlds/srcds question, and he's right that it probably
should be taken to the forums. Valve developers also check the forums.
There's no need to take the simple reply and turn it into a flame war.

On 10/28/05, Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ya know what, if you cant help then don't respond.  Posting on these lists
 generally (your case excluded) gets a quicker, better and more accurate
 response then using the troll infested Steam Forums, which seems to be where
 you belong.  It also means that Alfred will see it, and he or someone at
 Valve may have a solution.

 Dagok


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 From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server
 list


  In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:
  This is no joke.
 
  Well then what is it?  If it's a general problem experienced with your
  client, take it to the SteamPowered forums or wherever you get client
  help where people can suggest things like updating your router's
  firmware, etc.
 
  If this is a problem where refreshing the server list causes your server
  (or its connection) to go down, then we'd need to know that.
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Kevin Ottalini

The most common cause of disconnect or feeze when you refresh a server list
is your router.

Try bypassing the router and see if you still have the same problem.
Some router firmware versions can cause this, there are also some bad
routers (actiontec for sure).

One solution is to lower the steam connection rate.



- Original Message -
From: Craig Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server
list



This isn't a hlds/srcds question, and he's right that it probably
should be taken to the forums. Valve developers also check the forums.
There's no need to take the simple reply and turn it into a flame war.

On 10/28/05, Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ya know what, if you cant help then don't respond.  Posting on these
lists
generally (your case excluded) gets a quicker, better and more accurate
response then using the troll infested Steam Forums, which seems to be
where
you belong.  It also means that Alfred will see it, and he or someone at
Valve may have a solution.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: Eric (Deacon) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Losing net connection when I refresh the server
list


 In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote:
 This is no joke.

 Well then what is it?  If it's a general problem experienced with your
 client, take it to the SteamPowered forums or wherever you get client
 help where people can suggest things like updating your router's
 firmware, etc.

 If this is a problem where refreshing the server list causes your
 server
 (or its connection) to go down, then we'd need to know that.

 --
 Eric (the Deacon remix)




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