Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?

2006-03-19 Thread Erik Hollensbe


On Mar 19, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zellers wrote:


One thing I don't agree with (sorry VALVe) is the delayed banning.
I realize
they are trying to make it so the cheaters don't know what hack
they used.
But IMO, that's not very smart. The reason for an anti-cheat tool
is to weed
them out before they wreak havoc, not after they've had their fun.
So they
find out that the hack they used is VAC-detected. Good. Back to the
drawing
board for them, while honest players can continue to have fun.


Actually, I imagine that it's intended to be a deterrent to ruining
the game, just like copy protection is intended to be a deterrent,
even though tons of games are available on usenet before they hit
store shelves.

Joe Sixpack won't install cheats because it's too much of a pain in
the ass, just like Joe Sixpack won't give John Sixpack a copy of
3r33t Strike Force 2000 Platinum Pro because it's using safedisc and
a cd-key authorization system.

If anyone here honestly thinks that Valve can get rid of every cheat
or expects them to, you need a serious reality check on how computers
actually work.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?

2006-03-19 Thread W0kk3L

Indeed. It's also possible to create a banlist of your own and let the
plugin check that too. So if you want to ban someone and you don't want to
upload it to SteamBans, you can always add it to your own banlist. The
plugin also checks that list. An example is our list:
http://www.crew-nexus.net/cheatr . Works almost similar to the SteamBans
list.

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Zellers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?



I was thinking of trying that SteamBans thing. What I understand it does is
when a player connects, the plugin connects to SteamBans.com global list.
If
the player is banned on there, it won't allow them to connect to any
servers, including yours, that are running the SteamBans plugin.



From: "W0kk3L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:33:26 +0100

Hi,

www.steambans.com

It's not waterproof. But a lot of cheaters are banned in this
global-banlist.

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "DrWeB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?



Hi all,

I trusted VAC/VAC2 but since a few days, gamerz don't stop complaining
about
cheaters on our servers.
Today I've spent multiple hours of observation and I saw lots of
cheaters.
Afterwards, I spent hours Google and lots of CS-forums looking for a
better
way to protect our servers from cheaters.
Is there some other software that can do the trick ?

Our servers are listed on www.drweb.be

Grtz,
DrWeB Sr


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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Franck Turmel-Josek

Please give us the return of :
ldd amxmodx_mm_amd64.so

Franck

Markus [metworld.de] wrote:

Thanks, that helped me much! Updates are workerling properly now!
Still I have no clue how to run Amxmodx and Metamod properly on my 64bit
machine with Suse 9.3 64bit edition!

My liblist.gam loads the metamod_amd64.so properly, metamod runs fine!
But amxmodx makes problems!
My metamod plugins.ini looks like this:

; AMX Mod
linux addons/amx/dlls/amxmodx_mm_amd64.so

Starting up the server and type in meta list gives me:

meta version
Metamod v1.18  2005/08/24 (5:12)
by Will Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  http://www.metamod.org/
compiled: Aug 23 2005, 22:41:01 +0200 (optimized)
meta list
Currently loaded plugins:
 description  stat pend  file  vers  src  load
unlod
[ 1] 
You must find fisrt .steam directory.
This directory will be in the user home directory you use for Steam.
And the file will be in.

An other way :
find / | grep 'ClientRegistry.blob'

Franck

Markus [metworld.de] wrote:

Where can I find this file? My whole hlds directory does not have it!
Just found InstallRecord.blob

greets,
markus






Franck Turmel-Josek schrieb:

Yes, we have this problem and we solve it with
.steam/ClientRegistry.blob deleting.

Franck

Hans Vos wrote:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

--
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Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?

2006-03-19 Thread Joshua Zellers

One thing I don't agree with (sorry VALVe) is the delayed banning. I realize
they are trying to make it so the cheaters don't know what hack they used.
But IMO, that's not very smart. The reason for an anti-cheat tool is to weed
them out before they wreak havoc, not after they've had their fun. So they
find out that the hack they used is VAC-detected. Good. Back to the drawing
board for them, while honest players can continue to have fun.



From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:55:14 +0100

Unfortunately that's something we have to live with.
Mature admins are the best AC solution at the moment.
It's just crazy how many EULA violators are around these days. In my eyes
that's a clear sign of VAC's and VAC2's failure.

Tom
- Original Message -
From: "DrWeB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?



Hi all,

I trusted VAC/VAC2 but since a few days, gamerz don't stop complaining
about
cheaters on our servers.
Today I've spent multiple hours of observation and I saw lots of cheaters.
Afterwards, I spent hours Google and lots of CS-forums looking for a
better
way to protect our servers from cheaters.
Is there some other software that can do the trick ?

Our servers are listed on www.drweb.be

Grtz,
DrWeB Sr


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Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?

2006-03-19 Thread Tom

Unfortunately that's something we have to live with.
Mature admins are the best AC solution at the moment.
It's just crazy how many EULA violators are around these days. In my eyes
that's a clear sign of VAC's and VAC2's failure.

Tom
- Original Message -
From: "DrWeB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?



Hi all,

I trusted VAC/VAC2 but since a few days, gamerz don't stop complaining
about
cheaters on our servers.
Today I've spent multiple hours of observation and I saw lots of cheaters.
Afterwards, I spent hours Google and lots of CS-forums looking for a
better
way to protect our servers from cheaters.
Is there some other software that can do the trick ?

Our servers are listed on www.drweb.be

Grtz,
DrWeB Sr


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Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?

2006-03-19 Thread Joshua Zellers

I was thinking of trying that SteamBans thing. What I understand it does is
when a player connects, the plugin connects to SteamBans.com global list. If
the player is banned on there, it won't allow them to connect to any
servers, including yours, that are running the SteamBans plugin.



From: "W0kk3L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:33:26 +0100

Hi,

www.steambans.com

It's not waterproof. But a lot of cheaters are banned in this
global-banlist.

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "DrWeB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?



Hi all,

I trusted VAC/VAC2 but since a few days, gamerz don't stop complaining
about
cheaters on our servers.
Today I've spent multiple hours of observation and I saw lots of cheaters.
Afterwards, I spent hours Google and lots of CS-forums looking for a
better
way to protect our servers from cheaters.
Is there some other software that can do the trick ?

Our servers are listed on www.drweb.be

Grtz,
DrWeB Sr


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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Markus [metworld.de]

Thanks, that helped me much! Updates are workerling properly now!
Still I have no clue how to run Amxmodx and Metamod properly on my 64bit
machine with Suse 9.3 64bit edition!

My liblist.gam loads the metamod_amd64.so properly, metamod runs fine!
But amxmodx makes problems!
My metamod plugins.ini looks like this:

; AMX Mod
linux addons/amx/dlls/amxmodx_mm_amd64.so

Starting up the server and type in meta list gives me:

meta version
Metamod v1.18  2005/08/24 (5:12)
by Will Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  http://www.metamod.org/
compiled: Aug 23 2005, 22:41:01 +0200 (optimized)
meta list
Currently loaded plugins:
 description  stat pend  file  vers  src  load
unlod
[ 1] 
You must find fisrt .steam directory.
This directory will be in the user home directory you use for Steam.
And the file will be in.

An other way :
find / | grep 'ClientRegistry.blob'

Franck

Markus [metworld.de] wrote:

Where can I find this file? My whole hlds directory does not have it!
Just found InstallRecord.blob

greets,
markus






Franck Turmel-Josek schrieb:

Yes, we have this problem and we solve it with
.steam/ClientRegistry.blob deleting.

Franck

Hans Vos wrote:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

--
Kind regards,

Hans Vos


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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Franck Turmel-Josek

You must find fisrt .steam directory.
This directory will be in the user home directory you use for Steam.
And the file will be in.

An other way :
find / | grep 'ClientRegistry.blob'

Franck

Markus [metworld.de] wrote:

Where can I find this file? My whole hlds directory does not have it!
Just found InstallRecord.blob

greets,
markus






Franck Turmel-Josek schrieb:

Yes, we have this problem and we solve it with
.steam/ClientRegistry.blob deleting.

Franck

Hans Vos wrote:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

--
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Hans Vos


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[hlds_linux] Master Server List Ping BUG

2006-03-19 Thread Outbreaker Nachname: GEHEIM

The last 6 Days my Server has a Ping ower 200 in the Master Server List an
in the Game an Favourit List the Server has a Ping 40-50
A frends Server has this Problem also.

Look also at thes Topic: http://forums.srcds.com/showthread.php?tid=2127

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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread William Warren

that's the blob you need to get rid of.


Markus [metworld.de] wrote:

Where can I find this file? My whole hlds directory does not have it!
Just found InstallRecord.blob

greets,
markus






Franck Turmel-Josek schrieb:

Yes, we have this problem and we solve it with
.steam/ClientRegistry.blob deleting.

Franck

Hans Vos wrote:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?

2006-03-19 Thread W0kk3L

Hi,

www.steambans.com

It's not waterproof. But a lot of cheaters are banned in this
global-banlist.

-W0kk3L-

- Original Message -
From: "DrWeB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?



Hi all,

I trusted VAC/VAC2 but since a few days, gamerz don't stop complaining
about
cheaters on our servers.
Today I've spent multiple hours of observation and I saw lots of cheaters.
Afterwards, I spent hours Google and lots of CS-forums looking for a
better
way to protect our servers from cheaters.
Is there some other software that can do the trick ?

Our servers are listed on www.drweb.be

Grtz,
DrWeB Sr


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[hlds_linux] Other anti-cheat software ?

2006-03-19 Thread DrWeB
Hi all,

I trusted VAC/VAC2 but since a few days, gamerz don't stop complaining about
cheaters on our servers.
Today I've spent multiple hours of observation and I saw lots of cheaters.
Afterwards, I spent hours Google and lots of CS-forums looking for a better
way to protect our servers from cheaters.
Is there some other software that can do the trick ?

Our servers are listed on www.drweb.be

Grtz,
DrWeB Sr


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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Markus [metworld.de]

Where can I find this file? My whole hlds directory does not have it!
Just found InstallRecord.blob

greets,
markus






Franck Turmel-Josek schrieb:

Yes, we have this problem and we solve it with
.steam/ClientRegistry.blob deleting.

Franck

Hans Vos wrote:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

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Re: [hlds_linux] hlds appearing offline

2006-03-19 Thread Jens Werner

Don't be too excited though. We are running a few publics without the
-pingboost command and these servers still show the same problem. It
happens every few days.


I wonder why you cannot find much information about it although there
seem to be some people having this problem. But if you find out
something I'd like to know about it.

Thanks in advance.

Meanwhile our servers are still working fine since removing "pingboost".

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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Franck Turmel-Josek

Yes, we have this problem and we solve it with
.steam/ClientRegistry.blob deleting.

Franck

Hans Vos wrote:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread William Warren

I usually have to delete my .blob file for this to be solved.

Hans Vos wrote:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Markus [metworld.de]

The servers cannot handle as much requests as they get so valve has to
buy more servers and put them online to function updates properly!

greetz
markus





Hans Vos schrieb:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

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Re: [hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Markus [metworld.de]

This problem belongs to the valve servers who cannot solve those many
update request!
Valve has to put up more update servers with more performance!

- markus





Hans Vos schrieb:

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

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Hans Vos


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Re: [hlds_linux] hlds appearing offline

2006-03-19 Thread Hans Vos

By this time time most of our cs1.6 servers had this problem. I then
found the solution to remove the "-pingboost 1" parameter of our command
line - that's it, and it's working since 24 hours by now.


Don't be too excited though. We are running a few publics without the
-pingboost command and these servers still show the same problem. It
happens every few days.

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Re: [hlds_linux] hlds appearing offline

2006-03-19 Thread Jens Werner

OK, just in case anyone is interested in my solution: I tried around a
bit and watched the situation a few days. I found out there's no
relationship in what netstat is showing, servers appeared offline
regardless what netstat was showing.

By this time time most of our cs1.6 servers had this problem. I then
found the solution to remove the "-pingboost 1" parameter of our command
line - that's it, and it's working since 24 hours by now.

This was yesterday and by then only 2 out of 16 cs1.6 servers were still
online (while processes hlds_run and hlds_i686/amd were all running).

I just had a look at all servers - one was offline, but I found out that
I missed changing its script yesterday - so it still had the pingboost
paramater.

Problem solved, strange though.

Thanks for your help.

Jens Werner

Jens Werner wrote:

I already posted this problem once in here: by now we have several cs16
servers appearing offline after random time. Process is still running,
but server doesn't answer neither to cs16 server browser or external
tools like hlsw. Connected players are kicked, nothing in the log files.

We have absolutely no firewall or packet filtering tools. Running debian
testing on all machines with vanilla kernel. I even removed iptables
from some machines although I never touched that configuration so it
didn't do anything. Problem is not solved by now.

We tried disabling plugins and using minimal server.cfg without success.

I tracked down something interesting. As you can see from top process is
still running:

20403 tigges16   0  2740 1252 2228 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 screen
20404 tigges16   0  2512 1260 2284 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 hlds_run
20415 tigges16   0 79032  62m  13m S  0.0  6.1   2:59.88 hlds_i686

netstat -ap tells me:

udp0  0 *:26903 *:*
   20415/hlds_i686
udp   110464  0 *:27060 *:*
   20415/hlds_i686

This is strange. I played around a bit and a newly started server shows
ip like this in netstat:

udp0  0 gsrv-l-04.raies-s:27080 *:*
   27796/hlds_i686

So the second entry is dns:port, not just *:port like shown above. Is
this the desired hint?

Our command line is:
screen -A -m -d -S marc ./hlds_run -game cstrike +exec server.cfg
+maxplayers 4 +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx +port 27080 +map de_dust2 -autoupdate
-pingboost 1

Command line of other servers having exactly the same problem looks
similar with other ports/ip if neccessary.

First question: is "+ip", "+port" correct or should it be "-ip",
"-port"? I think it is "+" but was "-" earlier IIRC?

Second: Can anyone help at all?

Regards
Jens Werner

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[hlds_linux] [CS1.6 Linux] HLDSUpdateTool hangs at "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35"

2006-03-19 Thread Hans Vos

Hi,

We are experiencing problems with the HLDS Update Tool for Linux. On
every machine I tried the update process locks up / hangs when it
reaches: "Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 35". Does
anybody else have these problems? If so, did you find a solution? We
don't have problems updating our CS:Source servers under Windows.

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[hlds_linux] cant qurey to server.

2006-03-19 Thread Enes Sönmez
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hello

I have a linux dedicated server. Redhat 8. And i installed 1.6 servers to
it. But when i try to query(infostring) to these 1.6 servers, there is no
answer from query script. I tried another 1.6 servers, i can query them.
This mean query script that written in PHP is working well. But not at my
servers.

Thanks as well!
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