Re: [hlds_linux] DWP Stuck on old pricing

[Biscuits]

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Done the verify, checked all new files in the last month,

Still the same.

What server or servers do you retrieve the dynamic pricing from?
Is it from content servers or a specific server, only other thing i can
think of is pinging That server to see if the cs:s server can reach the
destination.

On 11/15/06, Biscuits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ./steam -command update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -verify_all
>
> like that :p its just sitting there, i think the paints dry
>
>
>
> On 11/15/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Lol
> >
> > Hey
> >
> > How would you do it for Linux?
> >
> > On 11/15/06, john @ GamersCoalition <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > 
> > >
> > > cheers ;)
> > >
> > > On 11/14/06, Whisper < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > Search by file change date for the past 30 days
> > > >
> > > > Delete them all, assuming you only see approximately 22 odd files
> > which
> > > is
> > > > what I get.
> > > >
> > > > Then do a: HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "Counter-Strike
> > > > Source"
> > > > -verify_all
> > > >
> > > > Or at least thats how you do it for Windows. :)
> > > >
> > > > On 11/14/06, Biscuits <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > > This one has me scratching my head...
> > > > >
> > > > > On one of our servers running Linux 2.6.9-1.667 (FC4)
> > > > > The Dynamic Weapon Pricing is not updating, it didn't last week
> > and
> > > also
> > > > > did
> > > > > not again today.
> > > > > As such the mac-10 is still under $200 on our server.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have removed all plugins, done -autoupdate, deleted the .blob.
> > > > > I just cannot work out why this server is not updating dynamic
> > > pricing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have anyideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry if it's been answered before I just joined this mailing list
> > and
> > > > > have
> > > > > been on the win32 list for over a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also where is the pricing of guns for DWP kept on the server in
> > what
> > > > file?
> > > > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] DWP Stuck on old pricing

[Biscuits]

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./steam -command update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -verify_all

like that :p its just sitting there, i think the paints dry



On 11/15/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Lol
>
> Hey
>
> How would you do it for Linux?
>
> On 11/15/06, john @ GamersCoalition <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > 
> >
> > cheers ;)
> >
> > On 11/14/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > Search by file change date for the past 30 days
> > >
> > > Delete them all, assuming you only see approximately 22 odd files
> which
> > is
> > > what I get.
> > >
> > > Then do a: HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "Counter-Strike
> > > Source"
> > > -verify_all
> > >
> > > Or at least thats how you do it for Windows. :)
> > >
> > > On 11/14/06, Biscuits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > This one has me scratching my head...
> > > >
> > > > On one of our servers running Linux 2.6.9-1.667 (FC4)
> > > > The Dynamic Weapon Pricing is not updating, it didn't last week and
> > also
> > > > did
> > > > not again today.
> > > > As such the mac-10 is still under $200 on our server.
> > > >
> > > > We have removed all plugins, done -autoupdate, deleted the .blob.
> > > > I just cannot work out why this server is not updating dynamic
> > pricing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have anyideas?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if it's been answered before I just joined this mailing list
> and
> > > > have
> > > > been on the win32 list for over a year.
> > > >
> > > > Also where is the pricing of guns for DWP kept on the server in what
> > > file?
> > > >
> > > > --
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Re: [hlds_linux] DWP Stuck on old pricing

[Whisper]

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Lol

Hey

How would you do it for Linux?

On 11/15/06, john @ GamersCoalition <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
>
> cheers ;)
>
> On 11/14/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Search by file change date for the past 30 days
> >
> > Delete them all, assuming you only see approximately 22 odd files which
> is
> > what I get.
> >
> > Then do a: HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "Counter-Strike
> > Source"
> > -verify_all
> >
> > Or at least thats how you do it for Windows. :)
> >
> > On 11/14/06, Biscuits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > This one has me scratching my head...
> > >
> > > On one of our servers running Linux 2.6.9-1.667 (FC4)
> > > The Dynamic Weapon Pricing is not updating, it didn't last week and
> also
> > > did
> > > not again today.
> > > As such the mac-10 is still under $200 on our server.
> > >
> > > We have removed all plugins, done -autoupdate, deleted the .blob.
> > > I just cannot work out why this server is not updating dynamic
> pricing.
> > >
> > > Anyone have anyideas?
> > >
> > > Sorry if it's been answered before I just joined this mailing list and
> > > have
> > > been on the win32 list for over a year.
> > >
> > > Also where is the pricing of guns for DWP kept on the server in what
> > file?
> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] DWP Stuck on old pricing

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cheers ;)

On 11/14/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Search by file change date for the past 30 days
>
> Delete them all, assuming you only see approximately 22 odd files which is
> what I get.
>
> Then do a: HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "Counter-Strike
> Source"
> -verify_all
>
> Or at least thats how you do it for Windows. :)
>
> On 11/14/06, Biscuits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > This one has me scratching my head...
> >
> > On one of our servers running Linux 2.6.9-1.667 (FC4)
> > The Dynamic Weapon Pricing is not updating, it didn't last week and also
> > did
> > not again today.
> > As such the mac-10 is still under $200 on our server.
> >
> > We have removed all plugins, done -autoupdate, deleted the .blob.
> > I just cannot work out why this server is not updating dynamic pricing.
> >
> > Anyone have anyideas?
> >
> > Sorry if it's been answered before I just joined this mailing list and
> > have
> > been on the win32 list for over a year.
> >
> > Also where is the pricing of guns for DWP kept on the server in what
> file?
> >
> > --
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Re: [hlds_linux] DWP Stuck on old pricing

[Whisper]

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Search by file change date for the past 30 days

Delete them all, assuming you only see approximately 22 odd files which is
what I get.

Then do a: HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "Counter-Strike Source"
-verify_all

Or at least thats how you do it for Windows. :)

On 11/14/06, Biscuits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> This one has me scratching my head...
>
> On one of our servers running Linux 2.6.9-1.667 (FC4)
> The Dynamic Weapon Pricing is not updating, it didn't last week and also
> did
> not again today.
> As such the mac-10 is still under $200 on our server.
>
> We have removed all plugins, done -autoupdate, deleted the .blob.
> I just cannot work out why this server is not updating dynamic pricing.
>
> Anyone have anyideas?
>
> Sorry if it's been answered before I just joined this mailing list and
> have
> been on the win32 list for over a year.
>
> Also where is the pricing of guns for DWP kept on the server in what file?
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

[Whisper]

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Well I find it funny you even bothered to post that 1st link at all,
considering how old that Xeon (512MB of cache lol) you have used to attempt
to demonstrate your point. Were you hoping that nobody would actually bother
to read the specs of the CPU's listed?

So the 1st link only serves to demonstrate my initial point, you need to be
very bloody specific about which Xeon you refer to before claiming which CPU
is going to be spanking which Xeon.

On 11/15/06, Noel Houck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Funny how you picked out the specs that show the slower xeon and pretend
> that that one was the only one I showed stats for.
>
> The one you're recommending as being faster also comes with a hefty price
> tag.
>
>   Dual-Core Intel Xeon 7140M processor
> 3.40GHz 16MB 800MHz $1,980.00
>
> Something tells me if this guy is worried about cost he's not going to go
> for the xeon that you are touting here unless it can do the work of 5 core
> 2
> duo's, which I doubt.
>
> The models I referenced are the more mainstream and comparably priced
> models
> when compared to the core 2 duo cpus.  Maybe I should have said "even the
> fast ones *in the same* *price range* are only just matching the core 2
> duo."
>
> Anyway kind of a tossup really, but if he can get 10-15 core 2's instead
> of 6 xeons I think I would go for the core 2's.
>
> Sounds like you must have purchased some xeons a while back and are not
> happy that someone might recommend something different?
>
>
> On 11/14/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > *Xeon*: 2x 3.06 GHz with HyperThreading (512 KB L2 cache per processor),
> 2
> > GB DDR266 RAM (4x 512MB), Quadro FX1000, Windows XP SP2 Professional
> > (32-bit)  http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/archive/2006/07/13/664890.aspx
> >
> >
> > http://www.intel.com/performance/server/xeon_mp/intthru.htm
> >
> >
> >
> http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/rack_servers?c=au&l=en&s=lca
> >
> > Didn't Steve and I just say that there are more than 1 version of the
> > Xeon,
> > which is half the problem since you cannot sit there and state X CPU is
> > "better" than a Xeon, without specifying precisely which Xeon you are
> > refering to.
> >
> > I added the Dell link merely to prove that you can get faster Xeons than
> > either of the links you have provided as the basis for your bang for
> buck
> > argument.
> >
> > On 11/15/06, Noel Houck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > There are several types, but even the fast ones are only just matching
> a
> > > core 2 duo in performance.
> > >
> > > http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/archive/2006/07/13/664890.aspx
> > >
> > > http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=5160vs6800&page=6
> > >
> > > I would go with the core 2 duo since you get more bang for your buck.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/14/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > I think you need to specify which Xeon processor you are refering
> to,
> > > > since
> > > > there are several types and not all of them will get spanked, and in
> > > fact
> > > > would probably do the spanking.
> > > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

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Funny how you picked out the specs that show the slower xeon and pretend
that that one was the only one I showed stats for.

The one you're recommending as being faster also comes with a hefty price
tag.

  Dual-Core Intel Xeon 7140M processor
3.40GHz 16MB 800MHz $1,980.00

Something tells me if this guy is worried about cost he's not going to go
for the xeon that you are touting here unless it can do the work of 5 core 2
duo's, which I doubt.

The models I referenced are the more mainstream and comparably priced models
when compared to the core 2 duo cpus.  Maybe I should have said "even the
fast ones *in the same* *price range* are only just matching the core 2
duo."

Anyway kind of a tossup really, but if he can get 10-15 core 2's instead
of 6 xeons I think I would go for the core 2's.

Sounds like you must have purchased some xeons a while back and are not
happy that someone might recommend something different?


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> *Xeon*: 2x 3.06 GHz with HyperThreading (512 KB L2 cache per processor), 2
> GB DDR266 RAM (4x 512MB), Quadro FX1000, Windows XP SP2 Professional
> (32-bit)  http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/archive/2006/07/13/664890.aspx
>
>
> http://www.intel.com/performance/server/xeon_mp/intthru.htm
>
>
> http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/rack_servers?c=au&l=en&s=lca
>
> Didn't Steve and I just say that there are more than 1 version of the
> Xeon,
> which is half the problem since you cannot sit there and state X CPU is
> "better" than a Xeon, without specifying precisely which Xeon you are
> refering to.
>
> I added the Dell link merely to prove that you can get faster Xeons than
> either of the links you have provided as the basis for your bang for buck
> argument.
>
> On 11/15/06, Noel Houck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > There are several types, but even the fast ones are only just matching a
> > core 2 duo in performance.
> >
> > http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/archive/2006/07/13/664890.aspx
> >
> > http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=5160vs6800&page=6
> >
> > I would go with the core 2 duo since you get more bang for your buck.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/14/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > I think you need to specify which Xeon processor you are refering to,
> > > since
> > > there are several types and not all of them will get spanked, and in
> > fact
> > > would probably do the spanking.
> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

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*Xeon*: 2x 3.06 GHz with HyperThreading (512 KB L2 cache per processor), 2
GB DDR266 RAM (4x 512MB), Quadro FX1000, Windows XP SP2 Professional
(32-bit)  http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/archive/2006/07/13/664890.aspx


http://www.intel.com/performance/server/xeon_mp/intthru.htm

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/rack_servers?c=au&l=en&s=lca

Didn't Steve and I just say that there are more than 1 version of the Xeon,
which is half the problem since you cannot sit there and state X CPU is
"better" than a Xeon, without specifying precisely which Xeon you are
refering to.

I added the Dell link merely to prove that you can get faster Xeons than
either of the links you have provided as the basis for your bang for buck
argument.

On 11/15/06, Noel Houck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> There are several types, but even the fast ones are only just matching a
> core 2 duo in performance.
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/archive/2006/07/13/664890.aspx
>
> http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=5160vs6800&page=6
>
> I would go with the core 2 duo since you get more bang for your buck.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/14/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > I think you need to specify which Xeon processor you are refering to,
> > since
> > there are several types and not all of them will get spanked, and in
> fact
> > would probably do the spanking.
> >
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

[Noel Houck]

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There are several types, but even the fast ones are only just matching a
core 2 duo in performance.

http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/archive/2006/07/13/664890.aspx

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=5160vs6800&page=6

I would go with the core 2 duo since you get more bang for your buck.






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> I think you need to specify which Xeon processor you are refering to,
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> would probably do the spanking.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

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Whisper wrote:

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I think you need to specify which Xeon processor you are refering to,
since there are several types and not all of them will get spanked,
and in fact would probably do the spanking.


Actually yes thats a major branding issue that Intel has atm.
Both Woodcrest ( core2 tech ) and the old P4 crap come under
the same title I forgot that when I commented previously.

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I think you need to specify which Xeon processor you are refering to, since
there are several types and not all of them will get spanked, and in fact
would probably do the spanking.

On 11/15/06, Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi again,
>
> considering my servers arent really that great, i started thinking about
> upgrading them all.
>
> the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15 core 2 duos or 3
> dual xeons
>
> space is not a matter at this point, its more about what would give the
> best performance all in all
>
> so what im asking is basically how hard i can push a core 2 duo 2.4ghz
> with 1024 ram.. how many players i could have on a cs1.6 server as well as
> source, compared to a dual xeon machine
>
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RE: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

[Lawrence Latif]

Hi,

If you are talking about the new "Woodcrest" Xeons then it may well be worth
considering the added costs of administering the extra 10 Core 2 machines.

You mentioned that space is not an issue, but what about power? 15 Core 2
Duo machines will take more power than 3 dual xeon machines.

You should factor in other potential problems such as keep spares for 10-15
machines.

Of course if you use virtualization then the admin is less of an issue, but
hardware failure should still be considered.

Lawrence

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> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon
>
> the core 2's spank the p-4 xeon..period.
>
> aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:
> > Depends on which xeons we're talking, there are some quad
> core's out
> > there now with 8mb of cache.
> >
> > The core duo's will still be the better buy though for power/price
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon
> >
> >
> >> the cost would be almost the same
> >>
> >> 10-15 core 2 duo machines instead of 3 dual, dualcore
> xeons machines
> >>
> >> my question is how much better a xeon machine like that
> would perform
> >> compared to a single-cpu core 2 duo
> >>
> >>> Your maths seems to be off here, 2-3 dual xeons isn't as
> powerful as
> >>> 10-15
> >>> Core2Duos?
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:58 PM
> >>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon
> >>>
> >>>
>  hi again,
> 
>  considering my servers arent really that great, i
> started thinking
>  about upgrading them all.
> 
>  the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15
> core 2 duos
>  or 3 dual xeons
> 
>  space is not a matter at this point, its more about what
> would give
>  the best performance all in all
> 
>  so what im asking is basically how hard i can push a core 2 duo
>  2.4ghz with 1024 ram.. how many players i could have on a cs1.6
>  server as well as source, compared to a dual xeon machine
> 
>  any response on this is highly appreciated! thanks
> 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

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Jonathan wrote:

hi again,

considering my servers arent really that great, i started thinking
about
upgrading them all.

the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15 core 2 duos or 3
dual xeons


If those are your options, then you have no options the core2 machines
would own the xeons without question.



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Re: [hlds_linux] Server config

[William Warren]

yes pingboost 3 with 24 players.  We then decided to run another 24
player server on the machine and kept both servers humming around 800
when full.  This is in addition to the website, databases, stats servers
for the two hl servers among other things.

Jonathan wrote:

Did you use pingboost? how many players could it have?


I used to run an athlon XP 3000+ machine with fps stable at 900.

Krillins World wrote:

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MP vs XP line are two different types of AMD processors.

I am not commenting anymore on this subject.

GOODLUCK!


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Research shows the tickrates are capped for AMD processors at 500.

I can verify this is not the case when using MP2200+ or MP2400+ cpus.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

[William Warren]

the core 2's spank the p-4 xeon..period.

aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:

Depends on which xeons we're talking, there are some quad core's out there
now with 8mb of cache.

The core duo's will still be the better buy though for power/price

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From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon



the cost would be almost the same

10-15 core 2 duo machines instead of 3 dual, dualcore xeons machines

my question is how much better a xeon machine like that would perform
compared to a single-cpu core 2 duo


Your maths seems to be off here, 2-3 dual xeons isn't as powerful as
10-15
Core2Duos?

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon



hi again,

considering my servers arent really that great, i started thinking
about
upgrading them all.

the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15 core 2 duos or 3
dual xeons

space is not a matter at this point, its more about what would give the
best performance all in all

so what im asking is basically how hard i can push a core 2 duo 2.4ghz
with 1024 ram.. how many players i could have on a cs1.6 server as well
as
source, compared to a dual xeon machine

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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

[aXeR (AmmoBOX)]

Depends on which xeons we're talking, there are some quad core's out there
now with 8mb of cache.

The core duo's will still be the better buy though for power/price

- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon



the cost would be almost the same

10-15 core 2 duo machines instead of 3 dual, dualcore xeons machines

my question is how much better a xeon machine like that would perform
compared to a single-cpu core 2 duo


Your maths seems to be off here, 2-3 dual xeons isn't as powerful as
10-15
Core2Duos?

- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon



hi again,

considering my servers arent really that great, i started thinking about
upgrading them all.

the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15 core 2 duos or 3
dual xeons

space is not a matter at this point, its more about what would give the
best performance all in all

so what im asking is basically how hard i can push a core 2 duo 2.4ghz
with 1024 ram.. how many players i could have on a cs1.6 server as well
as
source, compared to a dual xeon machine

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Re: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

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the cost would be almost the same

10-15 core 2 duo machines instead of 3 dual, dualcore xeons machines

my question is how much better a xeon machine like that would perform
compared to a single-cpu core 2 duo

> Your maths seems to be off here, 2-3 dual xeons isn't as powerful as 10-15
> Core2Duos?
>
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:58 PM
> Subject: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon
>
>
>> hi again,
>>
>> considering my servers arent really that great, i started thinking about
>> upgrading them all.
>>
>> the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15 core 2 duos or 3
>> dual xeons
>>
>> space is not a matter at this point, its more about what would give the
>> best performance all in all
>>
>> so what im asking is basically how hard i can push a core 2 duo 2.4ghz
>> with 1024 ram.. how many players i could have on a cs1.6 server as well
>> as
>> source, compared to a dual xeon machine
>>
>> any response on this is highly appreciated! thanks
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Your maths seems to be off here, 2-3 dual xeons isn't as powerful as 10-15
Core2Duos?

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon



hi again,

considering my servers arent really that great, i started thinking about
upgrading them all.

the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15 core 2 duos or 3
dual xeons

space is not a matter at this point, its more about what would give the
best performance all in all

so what im asking is basically how hard i can push a core 2 duo 2.4ghz
with 1024 ram.. how many players i could have on a cs1.6 server as well as
source, compared to a dual xeon machine

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[hlds_linux] Core 2 Duo vs Xeon

[Jonathan]

hi again,

considering my servers arent really that great, i started thinking about
upgrading them all.

the question that arose is whether i should get 10-15 core 2 duos or 3
dual xeons

space is not a matter at this point, its more about what would give the
best performance all in all

so what im asking is basically how hard i can push a core 2 duo 2.4ghz
with 1024 ram.. how many players i could have on a cs1.6 server as well as
source, compared to a dual xeon machine

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Re: [hlds_linux] Server config

[CNU]

Krillins World <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Research shows the tickrates are capped for AMD processors at 500.
Something about Multimedia Extentions built in on Intel Chips (MMX
standard these days) vs the AMD.


I have AMD XP 2800+ Barton and "rcon stat" or "rcon stats" says FPS is
somewhat around 1000 atleast =\

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Re: [hlds_linux] Server config

[drlove]

MP vs XP line are two different types of AMD processors.
I am not commenting anymore on this subject.
GOODLUCK!


The fact you can convert an XP chip to a MP chip with a very small bit
of solder would seem to invalidate this statement.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: 64bit HLDS and 64bit Srcds

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Anyone?

On 10/22/06, Jani Tiira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know about real benefit from the 64bit srcds but the draw back
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> run at 333fps max. Though this is quite enough I think the 32bit operating
> systems runnin 500+ fps are having more regular fps. Our 64bit Gentoo system
> keeps flipping the fps from 99-333. I really would like to run my srcds
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Re: [hlds_linux] Periodical laod spikes and very bad performance

[Ronny Schedel]

Hello Martin,

try using HotSaNIC (hotsanic.sf.net). It will give you a much more detailed
anaylizing of your current system and what's happening. You should use at
least the modules traffic, system, part, diskio and netstat. I am sure the
most impact on your server will be hltstats and the mysql database, both are
bad performers.

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I have a HLDS CS1.6 server. It only runs apache2, mysql, hlstats and
cron.

Since mid of September I get a load spike every 90 minutes.
(See here: http://server.clanngc.de/rrdtool/players_flash-day.png)
No matter which kernel I run nor which plugins are enabled.

Also while playing on it, it sometimes gets stuck for a few ms and I
have much choke. Not much fun to play with.

I already lowered the ticrate, no change at al. Recompiled my kernel
with different preemption and HZ modes.

I can't find the cause for it! Top says nothing special while load
screws up. The kernel tasklist also isn't of much help.
[top output]
Wed Nov  8 16:25:17 CET 2006
top - 16:25:18 up 1 day,  6:27,  0 users,  load average: 0.80, 0.43, 0.16
Tasks:  48 total,   1 running,  47 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  1.8% us,  0.8% sy,  0.0% ni, 97.0% id,  0.3% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0%
si
Mem:508972k total,   495728k used,13244k free, 6468k buffers
Swap:   506036k total,   72k used,   505964k free,   307976k cached

 PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
21864 ngcuser   15   0  103m  69m 8940 S  9.2 14.1   7:39.07 hlds_i686
   1 root  15   0  1484  524  456 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.49 init
   2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0
   3 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
   4 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper
   5 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread
[/top output]
Maybe top isn't the right tool to measure such load problems...

Maybe it's because I recompiled all libs/programs with gcc v4.1.1 and
now use libc v2.4?

Maybe it was a valve update?! I have no clue and run out of ideas!

Any hint could be of help!


Server spec:
- Kernel: Linux 2.6.18.1
- CPU: Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz
- MEM: 512MB
- ETH: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)



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Re: [hlds_linux] Periodical laod spikes and very bad performance

[Martin Zwickel]

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:31:06 -0500
Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bubbled:

> Hopefully you're not using any of the "pingboost" commands.

*doh*

>
> Also; gcc4.1.1 can produce broken code, so be careful.

I thought it is mostly stable now...

Thanks, gonna try without pingboost.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Periodical laod spikes and very bad performance

[Gary]

Hopefully you're not using any of the "pingboost" commands.

Also; gcc4.1.1 can produce broken code, so be careful.

At 03:01 AM 11/14/2006, Martin Zwickel wrote:

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Hi there!

I have a HLDS CS1.6 server. It only runs apache2, mysql, hlstats and
cron.

Since mid of September I get a load spike every 90 minutes.
(See here: http://server.clanngc.de/rrdtool/players_flash-day.png)
No matter which kernel I run nor which plugins are enabled.

Also while playing on it, it sometimes gets stuck for a few ms and I
have much choke. Not much fun to play with.

I already lowered the ticrate, no change at al. Recompiled my kernel
with different preemption and HZ modes.

I can't find the cause for it! Top says nothing special while load
screws up. The kernel tasklist also isn't of much help.
[top output]
Wed Nov  8 16:25:17 CET 2006
top - 16:25:18 up 1 day,  6:27,  0 users,  load average: 0.80, 0.43, 0.16
Tasks:  48 total,   1 running,  47 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  1.8% us,  0.8% sy,  0.0% ni, 97.0% id,  0.3% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:508972k total,   495728k used,13244k free, 6468k buffers
Swap:   506036k total,   72k used,   505964k free,   307976k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
21864 ngcuser   15   0  103m  69m 8940 S  9.2 14.1   7:39.07 hlds_i686
1 root  15   0  1484  524  456 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.49 init
2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0
3 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
4 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper
5 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread
[/top output]
Maybe top isn't the right tool to measure such load problems...

Maybe it's because I recompiled all libs/programs with gcc v4.1.1 and
now use libc v2.4?

Maybe it was a valve update?! I have no clue and run out of ideas!

Any hint could be of help!


Server spec:
- Kernel: Linux 2.6.18.1
- CPU: Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz
- MEM: 512MB
- ETH: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)



Thanks and regards,
Martin

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Re: [hlds_linux] Server config

[Jonathan]

Did you use pingboost? how many players could it have?

> I used to run an athlon XP 3000+ machine with fps stable at 900.
>
> Krillins World wrote:
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>> MP vs XP line are two different types of AMD processors.
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>> I am not commenting anymore on this subject.
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>> GOODLUCK!
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Quoting Krillins World <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
 Research shows the tickrates are capped for AMD processors at 500.
>>> I can verify this is not the case when using MP2200+ or MP2400+ cpus.
>>>
>>> Jeff Love
>>> Burgh Gaming
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[hlds_linux] Periodical laod spikes and very bad performance

[Martin Zwickel]

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Hi there!

I have a HLDS CS1.6 server. It only runs apache2, mysql, hlstats and
cron.

Since mid of September I get a load spike every 90 minutes.
(See here: http://server.clanngc.de/rrdtool/players_flash-day.png)
No matter which kernel I run nor which plugins are enabled.

Also while playing on it, it sometimes gets stuck for a few ms and I
have much choke. Not much fun to play with.

I already lowered the ticrate, no change at al. Recompiled my kernel
with different preemption and HZ modes.

I can't find the cause for it! Top says nothing special while load
screws up. The kernel tasklist also isn't of much help.
[top output]
Wed Nov  8 16:25:17 CET 2006
top - 16:25:18 up 1 day,  6:27,  0 users,  load average: 0.80, 0.43, 0.16
Tasks:  48 total,   1 running,  47 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  1.8% us,  0.8% sy,  0.0% ni, 97.0% id,  0.3% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:508972k total,   495728k used,13244k free, 6468k buffers
Swap:   506036k total,   72k used,   505964k free,   307976k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
21864 ngcuser   15   0  103m  69m 8940 S  9.2 14.1   7:39.07 hlds_i686
1 root  15   0  1484  524  456 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.49 init
2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0
3 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
4 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper
5 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread
[/top output]
Maybe top isn't the right tool to measure such load problems...

Maybe it's because I recompiled all libs/programs with gcc v4.1.1 and
now use libc v2.4?

Maybe it was a valve update?! I have no clue and run out of ideas!

Any hint could be of help!


Server spec:
- Kernel: Linux 2.6.18.1
- CPU: Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz
- MEM: 512MB
- ETH: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)



Thanks and regards,
Martin

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