[hlds_linux] source under 64 bit
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Re: [hlds_linux] Server redirect
One thing keeps me wondering, which is that why your server has C-class IP instead of A-class? This is propably the reason why it gets listed last after every A-class IP like your own. -ics J. Miribel kirjoitti: > Hi all, hi TC, > > I agree all players from europe play on our servers but this is the case > because both you and I have big servers... > On our CSS 64 ppl server, 55% of the players are from our country > (france) and on the 45% left 40 are from country around france: UK, > belgium, deutchland, spain etc... Eastern europe user won't connect > thats for sure ;) > > > BUT: in my cas, our server shows up real late in server list, > all because the server list query will send me servers with IP near > mine, and my personnal IP starts with "82.xxx.xxx.xxx", the server is > "194.xxx.xxx.xxx"... My server is then full of servers from all over > Europe before I get servers from my own country.. This server filter is > out of date... > > There are at least 3 kinds of players: > Those who look for a ffa server with a decent ping (and those won't play > far from homeland) > Those who likes to play on special/modded servers (those we both welcome > everyday on our big servers TC) > Those who are there for scrimm (and they already know the IP of the > server they'll play on) > > All I'm saying is that Valve should better filtrate the servers IP and > the server list should be sent depending on player's IP's COUNTRY / > Server IP's COUNTRY instead of player's IP / server's IP. > Why ? Because RIPE / ARIN / LACNIC and other RIRs won't allocate subnets > by country anymore, therefore the server listing is done the wrong way ;) > > > Best regards > > TC a écrit : > >> " Do you really think UK players will play on Italian servers? Man they have >> 1000+ decent servers in their country, they won't event think about >> connecting to one..." >> >> Players tend to come from all over the place for servers in Europe which can >> be seen if you geo-ip profile your own players. Below is an example snapshot >> of players on our UKCS TF2 servers from yesterday. As you can see, they come >> from a wide area and pings stay low with good connectivity. >> >> Moment in time snapshot: >> >> http://images.ukcs.net/10002/tf2world.JPG >> >> I think prioritising the list winding outwards from the location of the >> server would be a good thing, but not to stop at a country's boundary. The >> master list could hold long/lat in the record, and then it’s a simple bit of >> maths to work out distance between two co-ords allowing sorting by distance. >> Ping is an approximation of that which they may think is better - they'd say >> its not distance its ping that’s important. However, during a full server >> list refresh the pings obtained tend to be totally wrong due to the overload >> on the clients connection doing all the pings. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Miribel >> Sent: 24 March 2008 13:16 >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server redirect >> >> I still wonder why you can't use a dns instead of an IP... We should >> have a cvar like sv_favname... >> >> Lets say its blank by default -> favorites menu memorizes the IP of the >> server >> When server admin sets something in like sv_favname "host.domain.com", >> then favorites memorizes the dns name... >> >> On the same kind of issue I still wonder why VALVe still uses their out >> of date server listing stuff... I have to wait 5 mins to see half of the >> servers of my country... I really think VALVe should geolocalize the >> player's IP and send the server list depending on the players country... >> I've been using goelocalization databases for quite a while now, thats >> really easy to implement... Too bad its not done already.. Do you really >> think UK players will play on Italian servers? Man they have 1000+ >> decent servers in their country, they won't event think about connecting >> to one... >> >> Best regards >> Julian >> >> Andreas Grimm a écrit : >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> valve is still working on the function, that server admins can change ip >>> addresses of gameservers without losing them in the steam favorites ... >>> >>> my tip: change the servername and post the new ip address ... and add >>> >>> >> server >> >> >>> messages, for example with mani's ad's messages, every 30 seconds, that >>> >>> >> the >> >> >>> server is out of date and it has a new ip address ... >>> >>> i have done this a lot of times and it worked very well ... >>> >>> in css there are possibilies to pop up a dialog to ask a player if he >>> >>> >> wants >> >> >>> to connect to another server ... but im not sure how it works, never tried >>> that ... but a plugin could make it: check www.sourcemod.net >>> >>> good luck >>> andreas >>> >>> -Original Message- >>>
Re: [hlds_linux] Server redirect
Hi all, hi TC, I agree all players from europe play on our servers but this is the case because both you and I have big servers... On our CSS 64 ppl server, 55% of the players are from our country (france) and on the 45% left 40 are from country around france: UK, belgium, deutchland, spain etc... Eastern europe user won't connect thats for sure ;) BUT: in my cas, our server shows up real late in server list, all because the server list query will send me servers with IP near mine, and my personnal IP starts with "82.xxx.xxx.xxx", the server is "194.xxx.xxx.xxx"... My server is then full of servers from all over Europe before I get servers from my own country.. This server filter is out of date... There are at least 3 kinds of players: Those who look for a ffa server with a decent ping (and those won't play far from homeland) Those who likes to play on special/modded servers (those we both welcome everyday on our big servers TC) Those who are there for scrimm (and they already know the IP of the server they'll play on) All I'm saying is that Valve should better filtrate the servers IP and the server list should be sent depending on player's IP's COUNTRY / Server IP's COUNTRY instead of player's IP / server's IP. Why ? Because RIPE / ARIN / LACNIC and other RIRs won't allocate subnets by country anymore, therefore the server listing is done the wrong way ;) Best regards TC a écrit : > " Do you really think UK players will play on Italian servers? Man they have > 1000+ decent servers in their country, they won't event think about > connecting to one..." > > Players tend to come from all over the place for servers in Europe which can > be seen if you geo-ip profile your own players. Below is an example snapshot > of players on our UKCS TF2 servers from yesterday. As you can see, they come > from a wide area and pings stay low with good connectivity. > > Moment in time snapshot: > > http://images.ukcs.net/10002/tf2world.JPG > > I think prioritising the list winding outwards from the location of the > server would be a good thing, but not to stop at a country's boundary. The > master list could hold long/lat in the record, and then it’s a simple bit of > maths to work out distance between two co-ords allowing sorting by distance. > Ping is an approximation of that which they may think is better - they'd say > its not distance its ping that’s important. However, during a full server > list refresh the pings obtained tend to be totally wrong due to the overload > on the clients connection doing all the pings. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Miribel > Sent: 24 March 2008 13:16 > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server redirect > > I still wonder why you can't use a dns instead of an IP... We should > have a cvar like sv_favname... > > Lets say its blank by default -> favorites menu memorizes the IP of the > server > When server admin sets something in like sv_favname "host.domain.com", > then favorites memorizes the dns name... > > On the same kind of issue I still wonder why VALVe still uses their out > of date server listing stuff... I have to wait 5 mins to see half of the > servers of my country... I really think VALVe should geolocalize the > player's IP and send the server list depending on the players country... > I've been using goelocalization databases for quite a while now, thats > really easy to implement... Too bad its not done already.. Do you really > think UK players will play on Italian servers? Man they have 1000+ > decent servers in their country, they won't event think about connecting > to one... > > Best regards > Julian > > Andreas Grimm a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> valve is still working on the function, that server admins can change ip >> addresses of gameservers without losing them in the steam favorites ... >> >> my tip: change the servername and post the new ip address ... and add >> > server > >> messages, for example with mani's ad's messages, every 30 seconds, that >> > the > >> server is out of date and it has a new ip address ... >> >> i have done this a lot of times and it worked very well ... >> >> in css there are possibilies to pop up a dialog to ask a player if he >> > wants > >> to connect to another server ... but im not sure how it works, never tried >> that ... but a plugin could make it: check www.sourcemod.net >> >> good luck >> andreas >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eirik >> Nilssen >> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:30 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> Subject: [hlds_linux] Server redirect >> >> >> Hi guys, hope you can help me out here. >> >> After experiencing a lot of problems with some of our servers hosted by >> > one > >> of our communitys sponsors, we have decided to host them ours
