Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Server Performance Getting Ridiculous

2009-03-21 Thread Ben B
nope, same kernel since i started.
Only thing that's changed is the tf2 updates, and I'd just watch as each
update bumped up the cpu usage % and whimper. hahaha

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:

> I haven't noticed any real degradation in processor usage over the past few
> updates. It seems to be where it's been for a long time, but I am running
> Windows. Are you sure nothing else is changing in your system (kernels,
> etc)
> that might be causing this?
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Ben B  wrote:
>
> > With these latest updates, I can barely run a 32 player server anymore,
> > core
> > usage according to top is 95% when full.  My 24 man server is starting to
> > average around 80% core usage when full.  It seemed just a few weeks ago
> > that the 32 man server would top out at 75%, and the 24 at 65%, each able
> > to
> > get good fps at those loads.  At 95%, the server fps hangs around 30.
> >  Yuck.
> > This is a Q9400 system :(
> >
> > If things keep going the way they are with a few more updates, 32
> > player
> > tf2 servers on most machines are going to be unplayable, and 24 man
> servers
> > will start to get jittery.
> >
> > --
> > From Ben B.
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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information

2009-03-21 Thread Cc2iscooL
Yep. They've only been manually de-listing servers.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, DontWannaName! wrote:

> They havent implemented their code yet. They just wanted to give everyone a
> heads up.
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:53 AM, AnAkIn .  wrote:
>
> > Why aren't those 2 servers delisted yet...
> >
> > 78.143.27.2:27015 Ranked TF2 Server
> > 78.143.27.2:27115 Fun Server
> >
> > They have been here for a long time now, always show 31/32 and always
> > empty,
> > and there are people joining/leaving them all the time.
> >
> >
> > 2009/3/21 AnAkIn . 
> >
> > > Could you do anything about the servers which are still using a sv_tags
> > > blocker?
> > > It's very easy to see since the game automatically add a cp/ctf/arena
> > tag,
> > > and some don't have any.
> > >
> > > 2009/3/17 Donnie Newlove 
> > >
> > > Then the user use his favourite tab, the server will still be in there.
> > >>
> > >> As Erik said, the score do not measure how good the server is so
> > >> showing "quality servers only" would just be untruthful since there is
> > >> no reason to believe only quality servers will be shown. It is made to
> > >> identify bad servers, remove them and that’s it.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Colton English
> > >>  wrote:
> > >> > Evaldas Zilinskas make a valid point.  What if a technically
> chalenged
> > >> user
> > >> > want's to play a delisted server because they are used to it? I
> dont'
> > >> think
> > >> > they would want to have to connect manually...  My girlfriend using
> my
> > >> > server which I don't care if it gets listed or not would be a
> example.
> > >> >  She's not really the type that likes to learn this stuff
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Evaldas Žilinskas <
> > >> > hlds_li...@gameconnect.lt> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Anyway, I would suggest just adding “Quality Servers” filter on
> > server
> > >> >> browser. Like VAC or “IS NOT FULL”. Then anyone would be happy. For
> > >> >> example,
> > >> >> I always use the “VAC – Enabled” filter and never play on insecure
> > >> servers.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So how about making this “delisting” thing a user choice ?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - Original Message -
> > >> >> From: "Erik Johnson" 
> > >> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:50 PM
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > I'm pretty official.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > -Original Message-
> > >> >> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >> >> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
> > >> Dustin
> > >> >> > Doiron
> > >> >> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:42 PM
> > >> >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Will there be an official way to appeal an action?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Erik Johnson
> > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> You can mail me if that happens.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> -Original Message-
> > >> >> >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> > >> >> >> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David
> A.
> > >> Parker
> > >> >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:56 AM
> > >> >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > >> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Thanks for the information, it helps a lot.  Just one quick
> > >> question:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > - We'll add a new message printed to the server console that
> > tells
> > >> the
> > >> >> >> server where it stands score-wise. It'll be focused on warning
> you
> > >> if
> > >> >> >> you're
> > >> >> >> heading towards being delisted.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Will there be some sort of action admins can take or process
> they
> > >> can
> > >> >> >> follow if they think their servers are being incorrectly flagged
> > for
> > >> >> >> some reason?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> I fully realize you don't want every admin running a misbehaving
> > >> server
> > >> >> >> to spam you with requests for intervention.  But at the same
> time,
> > >> no
> > >> >> >> such system can be perfect, and it would suck to see that you
> are
> > >> headed
> > >> >> >> for delisting and have no way to contact Valve about it.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Thanks again,
> > >> >> >> Dave
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Dave Parker
> > >> >> >> Utica College
> > >> >> >> Integrated Information Technology Services
> > >> >> >> (315) 792-3229
> > >> >> >> Registered Linux User #408177
> > >> >> >>
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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Server Performance Getting Ridiculous

2009-03-21 Thread Cc2iscooL
I haven't noticed any real degradation in processor usage over the past few
updates. It seems to be where it's been for a long time, but I am running
Windows. Are you sure nothing else is changing in your system (kernels, etc)
that might be causing this?

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Ben B  wrote:

> With these latest updates, I can barely run a 32 player server anymore,
> core
> usage according to top is 95% when full.  My 24 man server is starting to
> average around 80% core usage when full.  It seemed just a few weeks ago
> that the 32 man server would top out at 75%, and the 24 at 65%, each able
> to
> get good fps at those loads.  At 95%, the server fps hangs around 30.
>  Yuck.
> This is a Q9400 system :(
>
> If things keep going the way they are with a few more updates, 32
> player
> tf2 servers on most machines are going to be unplayable, and 24 man servers
> will start to get jittery.
>
> --
> From Ben B.
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[hlds_linux] TF2 Server Performance Getting Ridiculous

2009-03-21 Thread Ben B
With these latest updates, I can barely run a 32 player server anymore, core
usage according to top is 95% when full.  My 24 man server is starting to
average around 80% core usage when full.  It seemed just a few weeks ago
that the 32 man server would top out at 75%, and the 24 at 65%, each able to
get good fps at those loads.  At 95%, the server fps hangs around 30.  Yuck.
This is a Q9400 system :(

If things keep going the way they are with a few more updates, 32 player
tf2 servers on most machines are going to be unplayable, and 24 man servers
will start to get jittery.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Problems with updates on Server start...

2009-03-21 Thread Ash Fox
Thank you, Kaspars!

I had been using a normal cron in the past just to restart the server 
every day at 1PM GMT (Least likely time people would be on the server).

This gives me a new way of scheduling restarts to check for updates.

Many thanks!
~Ash-Fox

Kaspars wrote:
> first of all, copy srcds_run to srcds_run2 and then edit the file and set
> STEAM=""
> 
> then make a script with the following content:
> #!/bin/sh
> cd /opt/SRCDS_tf2
> ../steam -command update -game tf -dir /opt/SRCDS_tf2
> 
> edit the paths for your installation and save it as
> /opt/SRCDS_tf2/run_update
> 
> then edit crontab and add this line:
> 0 * * * * /opt/SRCDS_tf2/run_update >>/opt/SRCDS_tf2/update.log 2>&1
> 
> this will execute update script every hour...
> 
> your server still needs to be started with -autoupdate flag, so it can
> utilize MasterRequestRestart message and restart the server on changelevel
> to update to take effect
> 
>


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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information

2009-03-21 Thread DontWannaName!
They havent implemented their code yet. They just wanted to give everyone a
heads up.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:53 AM, AnAkIn .  wrote:

> Why aren't those 2 servers delisted yet...
>
> 78.143.27.2:27015 Ranked TF2 Server
> 78.143.27.2:27115 Fun Server
>
> They have been here for a long time now, always show 31/32 and always
> empty,
> and there are people joining/leaving them all the time.
>
>
> 2009/3/21 AnAkIn . 
>
> > Could you do anything about the servers which are still using a sv_tags
> > blocker?
> > It's very easy to see since the game automatically add a cp/ctf/arena
> tag,
> > and some don't have any.
> >
> > 2009/3/17 Donnie Newlove 
> >
> > Then the user use his favourite tab, the server will still be in there.
> >>
> >> As Erik said, the score do not measure how good the server is so
> >> showing "quality servers only" would just be untruthful since there is
> >> no reason to believe only quality servers will be shown. It is made to
> >> identify bad servers, remove them and that’s it.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Colton English
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Evaldas Zilinskas make a valid point.  What if a technically chalenged
> >> user
> >> > want's to play a delisted server because they are used to it? I dont'
> >> think
> >> > they would want to have to connect manually...  My girlfriend using my
> >> > server which I don't care if it gets listed or not would be a example.
> >> >  She's not really the type that likes to learn this stuff
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Evaldas Žilinskas <
> >> > hlds_li...@gameconnect.lt> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Anyway, I would suggest just adding “Quality Servers” filter on
> server
> >> >> browser. Like VAC or “IS NOT FULL”. Then anyone would be happy. For
> >> >> example,
> >> >> I always use the “VAC – Enabled” filter and never play on insecure
> >> servers.
> >> >>
> >> >> So how about making this “delisting” thing a user choice ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> - Original Message -
> >> >> From: "Erik Johnson" 
> >> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:50 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm pretty official.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Original Message-
> >> >> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> >> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Dustin
> >> >> > Doiron
> >> >> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:42 PM
> >> >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Will there be an official way to appeal an action?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Erik Johnson
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> You can mail me if that happens.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> >> >> >> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David A.
> >> Parker
> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:56 AM
> >> >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for the information, it helps a lot.  Just one quick
> >> question:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > - We'll add a new message printed to the server console that
> tells
> >> the
> >> >> >> server where it stands score-wise. It'll be focused on warning you
> >> if
> >> >> >> you're
> >> >> >> heading towards being delisted.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Will there be some sort of action admins can take or process they
> >> can
> >> >> >> follow if they think their servers are being incorrectly flagged
> for
> >> >> >> some reason?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I fully realize you don't want every admin running a misbehaving
> >> server
> >> >> >> to spam you with requests for intervention.  But at the same time,
> >> no
> >> >> >> such system can be perfect, and it would suck to see that you are
> >> headed
> >> >> >> for delisting and have no way to contact Valve about it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks again,
> >> >> >> Dave
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dave Parker
> >> >> >> Utica College
> >> >> >> Integrated Information Technology Services
> >> >> >> (315) 792-3229
> >> >> >> Registered Linux User #408177
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] Error verifying STEAM UserID Ticket

2009-03-21 Thread Christophe MARTIN
Merci mec :) ( That's mean thanks dude )


Rom1 [FFF-Dod] a écrit :
> Bonjour Christophe,
>
>Yep ! Here too. Just restart your server and it goes away.
>
>
>
> Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 22:04:27, vous écriviez :
>
>   
>> Some "Error verifying STEAM UserID Ticket" from France... Thanks.
>> 
>
>   
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Re: [hlds_linux] Problems with updates on Server start...

2009-03-21 Thread Kaspars
first of all, copy srcds_run to srcds_run2 and then edit the file and set
STEAM=""

then make a script with the following content:
#!/bin/sh
cd /opt/SRCDS_tf2
./steam -command update -game tf -dir /opt/SRCDS_tf2

edit the paths for your installation and save it as
/opt/SRCDS_tf2/run_update

then edit crontab and add this line:
0 * * * * /opt/SRCDS_tf2/run_update >>/opt/SRCDS_tf2/update.log 2>&1

this will execute update script every hour...

your server still needs to be started with -autoupdate flag, so it can
utilize MasterRequestRestart message and restart the server on changelevel
to update to take effect


2009/3/21 Ash Fox 

> Kaspars wrote:
> > I actually modified srcsds_run script to not run ./steam on startup, but
> > left in the -autoupdate option, so the server restarts on changemap and
> made
> > a custom crontab script, that updates game every hour... this speeds up
> > things and server doesn't get empty on every update
> >
>
> Would you mind giving me a example on how you did that, please?
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Problems with updates on Server start...

2009-03-21 Thread Ash Fox
Kaspars wrote:
> I actually modified srcsds_run script to not run ./steam on startup, but
> left in the -autoupdate option, so the server restarts on changemap and made
> a custom crontab script, that updates game every hour... this speeds up
> things and server doesn't get empty on every update
> 

Would you mind giving me a example on how you did that, please?


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Re: [hlds_linux] Problems with updates on Server start...

2009-03-21 Thread Kaspars
I actually modified srcsds_run script to not run ./steam on startup, but
left in the -autoupdate option, so the server restarts on changemap and made
a custom crontab script, that updates game every hour... this speeds up
things and server doesn't get empty on every update

2009/3/20 Philipp Reddigau 

> Hi all,
> Since some weeks we have much trouble with all of our Steam Servers...
> css,tf2,dods,dod and so on
> On start they are requesting an Update for the Games "-autoupdate"
> normally this went very fast maybe 10 secs
> but since 2 or 3 weeks the servers are needing one minute or more to
> start because they are waiting on this Update Point.
>
> We have this problems on all our servers they are standing on 2
> destinations, so it cant be a area route problem.
>
> Anyone have the same problems?
> Or what can we try to get the normal speed back?
>
> best regards,
> Philipp
>
> PS: Sry for my worse english ^^
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting

2009-03-21 Thread AnAkIn .
Nice to see Jake that you removed your fakeclients servers..oh wait they're
back now?

All of the same IPs I posted earlier.

2009/3/15 

> Frankly, I don't really care what either of you do. This type of drama
> might fly on Myspace of even the hlds list, but hlds_linux has generally
> always been better than that.
>
> I still subscribe to hlds_linux because the messages are generally
> on-topic, factual, and relevant to others running hlds and source
> servers. Please don't ruin that!
>
> Please don't bother replying or trying to argue with me. I will not
> reply on this topic again, in the interest of keeping this list true to
> what I stated above.
>
> --
> Andy
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:27:16 -0700, "DontWannaName!"
>  said:
> > Wow Jake, 15 redirects someone is getting greedy with their
> > redirects. You complain about Q clan having 33+, your almost half way
> > there. Not to mention your redirects have fake names.
> >
> > You just had to bring me down with you because thats the kind of jerk
> > you are. If I remember correctly, you started TF2 in January with
> > maybe 4 servers and a few redirects, you got so power hungry you
> > doubled them along with the amount of redirects. I have been running
> > TF2 servers since the start and worked very hard on getting my servers
> > full, I was doing pretty well without them, and I was a strongly
> > against them too.
> >
> > The fact is, your whole sorry post is complete BS! I mean really.. "I
> > remember the Q clan running 33+  fake servers for over a year along
> > with faking player counts on their real servers  so that was over 50
> > servers" your thinking... "so I should too so I can get full servers!"
> > All you care about is getting your 8 servers full so your not wasting
> > you precious quad quadcore rack servers.
> >
> > The fact is, you should go back to CSS where you belong because
> > copying someones server names and ideas exactly is just plain
> > unethical. Getting them all full with 15 redirect servers for 8
> > servers is priceless.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.game-monitor.com/tf2_GameServer/208.115.117.84:27015/_247_BADWATERGOLDRUSH_-_HLSTATSXRECRUITING_ClanWoof.co.html
> >
> >
> http://www.game-monitor.com/tf2_GameServer/216.83.33.145:27015/-TN-_247_BADWATERGOLDRUSH_-_HLSTATSXRECRUITING.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry to start a drama fest but someones gotta agree with me here...
> > he is just plain sad.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information

2009-03-21 Thread AnAkIn .
Why aren't those 2 servers delisted yet...

78.143.27.2:27015 Ranked TF2 Server
78.143.27.2:27115 Fun Server

They have been here for a long time now, always show 31/32 and always empty,
and there are people joining/leaving them all the time.


2009/3/21 AnAkIn . 

> Could you do anything about the servers which are still using a sv_tags
> blocker?
> It's very easy to see since the game automatically add a cp/ctf/arena tag,
> and some don't have any.
>
> 2009/3/17 Donnie Newlove 
>
> Then the user use his favourite tab, the server will still be in there.
>>
>> As Erik said, the score do not measure how good the server is so
>> showing "quality servers only" would just be untruthful since there is
>> no reason to believe only quality servers will be shown. It is made to
>> identify bad servers, remove them and that’s it.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Colton English
>>  wrote:
>> > Evaldas Zilinskas make a valid point.  What if a technically chalenged
>> user
>> > want's to play a delisted server because they are used to it? I dont'
>> think
>> > they would want to have to connect manually...  My girlfriend using my
>> > server which I don't care if it gets listed or not would be a example.
>> >  She's not really the type that likes to learn this stuff
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Evaldas Žilinskas <
>> > hlds_li...@gameconnect.lt> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Anyway, I would suggest just adding “Quality Servers” filter on server
>> >> browser. Like VAC or “IS NOT FULL”. Then anyone would be happy. For
>> >> example,
>> >> I always use the “VAC – Enabled” filter and never play on insecure
>> servers.
>> >>
>> >> So how about making this “delisting” thing a user choice ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Erik Johnson" 
>> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
>> >> 
>> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:50 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > I'm pretty official.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Original Message-
>> >> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
>> Dustin
>> >> > Doiron
>> >> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:42 PM
>> >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
>> >> >
>> >> > Will there be an official way to appeal an action?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Erik Johnson
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> You can mail me if that happens.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Original Message-
>> >> >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>> >> >> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David A.
>> Parker
>> >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:56 AM
>> >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the information, it helps a lot.  Just one quick
>> question:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > - We'll add a new message printed to the server console that tells
>> the
>> >> >> server where it stands score-wise. It'll be focused on warning you
>> if
>> >> >> you're
>> >> >> heading towards being delisted.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Will there be some sort of action admins can take or process they
>> can
>> >> >> follow if they think their servers are being incorrectly flagged for
>> >> >> some reason?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I fully realize you don't want every admin running a misbehaving
>> server
>> >> >> to spam you with requests for intervention.  But at the same time,
>> no
>> >> >> such system can be perfect, and it would suck to see that you are
>> headed
>> >> >> for delisting and have no way to contact Valve about it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks again,
>> >> >> Dave
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dave Parker
>> >> >> Utica College
>> >> >> Integrated Information Technology Services
>> >> >> (315) 792-3229
>> >> >> Registered Linux User #408177
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ___
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>> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> > infiniGaming.com
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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information

2009-03-21 Thread AnAkIn .
Could you do anything about the servers which are still using a sv_tags
blocker?
It's very easy to see since the game automatically add a cp/ctf/arena tag,
and some don't have any.

2009/3/17 Donnie Newlove 

> Then the user use his favourite tab, the server will still be in there.
>
> As Erik said, the score do not measure how good the server is so
> showing "quality servers only" would just be untruthful since there is
> no reason to believe only quality servers will be shown. It is made to
> identify bad servers, remove them and that’s it.
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Colton English
>  wrote:
> > Evaldas Zilinskas make a valid point.  What if a technically chalenged
> user
> > want's to play a delisted server because they are used to it? I dont'
> think
> > they would want to have to connect manually...  My girlfriend using my
> > server which I don't care if it gets listed or not would be a example.
> >  She's not really the type that likes to learn this stuff
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Evaldas Žilinskas <
> > hlds_li...@gameconnect.lt> wrote:
> >
> >> Anyway, I would suggest just adding “Quality Servers” filter on server
> >> browser. Like VAC or “IS NOT FULL”. Then anyone would be happy. For
> >> example,
> >> I always use the “VAC – Enabled” filter and never play on insecure
> servers.
> >>
> >> So how about making this “delisting” thing a user choice ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Erik Johnson" 
> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
> >> 
> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:50 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm pretty official.
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
> Dustin
> >> > Doiron
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:42 PM
> >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> >> >
> >> > Will there be an official way to appeal an action?
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Erik Johnson
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You can mail me if that happens.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> >> >> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David A.
> Parker
> >> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:56 AM
> >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting Information
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the information, it helps a lot.  Just one quick question:
> >> >>
> >> >> > - We'll add a new message printed to the server console that tells
> the
> >> >> server where it stands score-wise. It'll be focused on warning you if
> >> >> you're
> >> >> heading towards being delisted.
> >> >>
> >> >> Will there be some sort of action admins can take or process they can
> >> >> follow if they think their servers are being incorrectly flagged for
> >> >> some reason?
> >> >>
> >> >> I fully realize you don't want every admin running a misbehaving
> server
> >> >> to spam you with requests for intervention.  But at the same time, no
> >> >> such system can be perfect, and it would suck to see that you are
> headed
> >> >> for delisting and have no way to contact Valve about it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again,
> >> >> Dave
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Dave Parker
> >> >> Utica College
> >> >> Integrated Information Technology Services
> >> >> (315) 792-3229
> >> >> Registered Linux User #408177
> >> >>
> >> >> ___
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> >> >> please visit:
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> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> > infiniGaming.com
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Re: [hlds_linux] Proven Fix for players crashing mid-game in TF2

2009-03-21 Thread Ronny Schedel
Wasn't this fixed with the last update?

>I realized that, although I saw it as a possible fix in a single email the
> other day, no one had put out an actual topic describing the fix for 
> players
> with the Dual Core options on (I've only seen it happen for those with it
> on, though I may be wrong!). I tested various situations, and it always
> happened with the whole gibs-in-water situation (not sure what to call it 
> in
> a technical sense), and those with *r_waterdrawrefraction 0* didn't crash
> while those with it set to *1* did. Through every test, this was the 
> case*.
> *Take note that *this resets anytime you restart tf2, so it must be either
> in your autoexec.cfg or set every time you start tf2. *People kept 
> thinking
> our server was the problem, so I actually added an entry into our ads 
> plugin
> that reads as (copied straight from the ads file)
> *"text""{GREEN} HAVING CRASHES? SET r_waterdrawrefraction 0 (Note
> that for it to stick through TF2 instances, you'll need to put it in your
> autoexec.cfg)"*
>
> Deal with it however you wish, but at least now it's out there. Hope this
> helps someone.
> -Atreus
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