Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Andrew Armstrong
} sorry but its not like you said..
} hlds is single-threaded, thats true, but it use multiple cores at once
} time
} at least you use taskset to force to use only one core.

As Guy said, all you are doing there is saying 'any of my four CPU cores can
execute code for this process', but as hlds is single threaded, only one
core (of the four) can be executing code for the process at any one time.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 3:26 PM
To: 'kERPLUNK'; 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list';
ger...@tybsa.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

If it is single threaded it will only use 1 core at a time.  It might use
all cores over time, but if you have 4 cores it will only use 25% of them at
most at any time.  Over time, the most CPU that can be used with 4 cores
would be 25%.

Just an FYI, srcds has 2 threads.  I thought it had 3, but
ps -eLf|grep srcds
only shows 2 threads, and 2 threads could use 2 cores at one time.

} -Original Message-
} From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
} boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of kERPLUNK
} Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:26 PM
} To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; ger...@tybsa.com
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} 
} sorry but its not like you said..
} hlds is single-threaded, thats true, but it use multiple cores at once
} time
} at least you use taskset to force to use only one core.
} 
} pentium 4 have hyperthreading, doesnt have 2 real core.. just a real core
} +
} "virtual" core (you will see 200% of cpu but its not very real)
} pentium d / pentium dual-core / core 2 duo have 2 cores (200% of real cpu)
} core 2 quad have 4 cores (400% of real cpu)
} core i7 have 4 real cores + 4 virtual cores (800% cpu but not very real)
} 
} about your fps problems, try running your server with:
} # chrt -p 5 ./hlds_run x x x x x x x
} 
} cheers!
} 
} kERPLUNK
} LocalStrike | Game Servers
} http://www.localstrike.com.ar/
} 
} - Original Message -
} From: "Andrew Armstrong" 
} To: ; "'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'"
} 
} Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:05 AM
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} 
} 
} I have not read most of this thread, but you mentioned 23% CPU usage.
} 
} Remember that:
} * hlds is single-threaded. This means a single server can only use at most
} one CPU core at a time. If you have four cores on your processor, then the
} maximum amount of CPU power a single process will appear to use is 25%
} (100%
} of one core of the four available cores).
} * If you have 4 cores, then you are hitting maximum CPU already for this
} server (23% is pretty close to 25%!).
} 
} Cheers
} - Andrew
} 
} -Original Message-
} From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
} [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
} Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 12:49 PM
} To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} 
} I talked with the datacenter.
} It is a Pentium 4 with hiperthreading.
} Sory about the confusion
} 
} Now, anybody have any clue about my fps problem?
} 
} El mi, 09-09-2009 a las 19:43 -0400, Nicholas Hastings escribi:
} > Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about
} > hyperthreading
} >
} > Saul Rennison wrote:
} > > I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
} > >
} > > Thanks,
} > > - Saul.
} > >
} > > On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
} > >
} > >
} > >> Pentium D you mean?
} > >>
} > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton 
} > >> wrote:
} > >>
} > >>
} > >>> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core
} > >>> model
} > >>> here at work ...
} > >>>
} > >>> --mauirixxx
} > >>>
} > >>> -Original Message-
} > >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
} > >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
} > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
} > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
} > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} > >>>
} > >>> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core
} > >>> cpu.
} > >>> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
} > >>>
} > >>> -ics
} > >>>
} > >>> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
} > >>>
} >  Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
} > 
} > >>> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is
} > >>> most likely
} > >>> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing
} > >>> support enabled
} > >>> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
} > >>>
} >  -Original Message-
} >  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
} > 
} > >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valveso

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Guy Watkins
If it is single threaded it will only use 1 core at a time.  It might use
all cores over time, but if you have 4 cores it will only use 25% of them at
most at any time.  Over time, the most CPU that can be used with 4 cores
would be 25%.

Just an FYI, srcds has 2 threads.  I thought it had 3, but
ps -eLf|grep srcds
only shows 2 threads, and 2 threads could use 2 cores at one time.

} -Original Message-
} From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
} boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of kERPLUNK
} Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:26 PM
} To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; ger...@tybsa.com
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} 
} sorry but its not like you said..
} hlds is single-threaded, thats true, but it use multiple cores at once
} time
} at least you use taskset to force to use only one core.
} 
} pentium 4 have hyperthreading, doesnt have 2 real core.. just a real core
} +
} "virtual" core (you will see 200% of cpu but its not very real)
} pentium d / pentium dual-core / core 2 duo have 2 cores (200% of real cpu)
} core 2 quad have 4 cores (400% of real cpu)
} core i7 have 4 real cores + 4 virtual cores (800% cpu but not very real)
} 
} about your fps problems, try running your server with:
} # chrt -p 5 ./hlds_run x x x x x x x
} 
} cheers!
} 
} kERPLUNK
} LocalStrike | Game Servers
} http://www.localstrike.com.ar/
} 
} - Original Message -
} From: "Andrew Armstrong" 
} To: ; "'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'"
} 
} Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:05 AM
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} 
} 
} I have not read most of this thread, but you mentioned 23% CPU usage.
} 
} Remember that:
} * hlds is single-threaded. This means a single server can only use at most
} one CPU core at a time. If you have four cores on your processor, then the
} maximum amount of CPU power a single process will appear to use is 25%
} (100%
} of one core of the four available cores).
} * If you have 4 cores, then you are hitting maximum CPU already for this
} server (23% is pretty close to 25%!).
} 
} Cheers
} - Andrew
} 
} -Original Message-
} From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
} [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
} Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 12:49 PM
} To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} 
} I talked with the datacenter.
} It is a Pentium 4 with hiperthreading.
} Sory about the confusion
} 
} Now, anybody have any clue about my fps problem?
} 
} El mi, 09-09-2009 a las 19:43 -0400, Nicholas Hastings escribi:
} > Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about
} > hyperthreading
} >
} > Saul Rennison wrote:
} > > I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
} > >
} > > Thanks,
} > > - Saul.
} > >
} > > On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
} > >
} > >
} > >> Pentium D you mean?
} > >>
} > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton 
} > >> wrote:
} > >>
} > >>
} > >>> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core
} > >>> model
} > >>> here at work ...
} > >>>
} > >>> --mauirixxx
} > >>>
} > >>> -Original Message-
} > >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
} > >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
} > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
} > >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
} > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} > >>>
} > >>> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core
} > >>> cpu.
} > >>> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
} > >>>
} > >>> -ics
} > >>>
} > >>> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
} > >>>
} >  Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
} > 
} > >>> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is
} > >>> most likely
} > >>> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing
} > >>> support enabled
} > >>> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
} > >>>
} >  -Original Message-
} >  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
} > 
} > >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
} > >>>
} >  Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
} >  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
} >  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
} > 
} >  It's a dual core intel.
} > 
} >  dmesg says:
} >  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
} > 
} >  I am not sure about the model.
} > 
} >  Thank you
} > 
} >  El mi, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribi:
} > 
} > 
} > > What CPU do you have in it?
} > >
} > > Eric
} > >
} > >
} > >
} > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore
} > > wrote:
} > >
} > >
} > >> The topic about 1000fps servers mad

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread kERPLUNK
sorry but its not like you said..
hlds is single-threaded, thats true, but it use multiple cores at once time 
at least you use taskset to force to use only one core.

pentium 4 have hyperthreading, doesnt have 2 real core.. just a real core + 
"virtual" core (you will see 200% of cpu but its not very real)
pentium d / pentium dual-core / core 2 duo have 2 cores (200% of real cpu)
core 2 quad have 4 cores (400% of real cpu)
core i7 have 4 real cores + 4 virtual cores (800% cpu but not very real)

about your fps problems, try running your server with:
# chrt -p 5 ./hlds_run x x x x x x x

cheers!

kERPLUNK
LocalStrike | Game Servers
http://www.localstrike.com.ar/

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Armstrong" 
To: ; "'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'" 

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds


I have not read most of this thread, but you mentioned 23% CPU usage.

Remember that:
* hlds is single-threaded. This means a single server can only use at most 
one CPU core at a time. If you have four cores on your processor, then the 
maximum amount of CPU power a single process will appear to use is 25% (100% 
of one core of the four available cores).
* If you have 4 cores, then you are hitting maximum CPU already for this 
server (23% is pretty close to 25%!).

Cheers
- Andrew

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 12:49 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

I talked with the datacenter.
It is a Pentium 4 with hiperthreading.
Sory about the confusion

Now, anybody have any clue about my fps problem?

El mi, 09-09-2009 a las 19:43 -0400, Nicholas Hastings escribi:
> Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about
> hyperthreading
>
> Saul Rennison wrote:
> > I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Saul.
> >
> > On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Pentium D you mean?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core
> >>> model
> >>> here at work ...
> >>>
> >>> --mauirixxx
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> >>>
> >>> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core
> >>> cpu.
> >>> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
> >>>
> >>> -ics
> >>>
> >>> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
> >>>
>  Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
> 
> >>> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is
> >>> most likely
> >>> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing
> >>> support enabled
> >>> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
> >>>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> 
> >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
> >>>
>  Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
>  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> 
>  It's a dual core intel.
> 
>  dmesg says:
>  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
> 
>  I am not sure about the model.
> 
>  Thank you
> 
>  El mi, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribi:
> 
> 
> > What CPU do you have in it?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my
> >> server's fps.
> >> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
> >>
> >> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
> >>
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Andrew Armstrong
I have not read most of this thread, but you mentioned 23% CPU usage.

Remember that:
* hlds is single-threaded. This means a single server can only use at most one 
CPU core at a time. If you have four cores on your processor, then the maximum 
amount of CPU power a single process will appear to use is 25% (100% of one 
core of the four available cores).
* If you have 4 cores, then you are hitting maximum CPU already for this server 
(23% is pretty close to 25%!).

Cheers
- Andrew 

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 12:49 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

I talked with the datacenter.
It is a Pentium 4 with hiperthreading.
Sory about the confusion

Now, anybody have any clue about my fps problem?

El mi, 09-09-2009 a las 19:43 -0400, Nicholas Hastings escribi:
> Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about 
> hyperthreading
> 
> Saul Rennison wrote:
> > I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Saul.
> >
> > On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Pentium D you mean?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton   
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core  
> >>> model
> >>> here at work ...
> >>>
> >>> --mauirixxx
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> >>>
> >>> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core  
> >>> cpu.
> >>> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
> >>>
> >>> -ics
> >>>
> >>> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
> >>>   
>  Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
>  
> >>> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is  
> >>> most likely
> >>> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing  
> >>> support enabled
> >>> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
> >>>   
>  -Original Message-
>  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>  
> >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
> >>>   
>  Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
>  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> 
>  It's a dual core intel.
> 
>  dmesg says:
>  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
> 
>  I am not sure about the model.
> 
>  Thank you
> 
>  El mi, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribi:
> 
>  
> > What CPU do you have in it?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore  
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my  
> >> server's fps.
> >> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
> >>
> >> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
> >>
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
> >>
> >> Same configuration in a windows box:
> >>
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Midnight
I've never ran a server on anything that low end, quite possibly you 
need a faster server.  Just because the CPU is not maxed out doesn't 
mean the server isn't struggling to keep up.  Even on the latest 
hardware you won't get stable fps under load.



Nevermore wrote:
> I talked with the datacenter.
> It is a Pentium 4 with hiperthreading.
> Sory about the confusion
>
> Now, anybody have any clue about my fps problem?
>
> El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 19:43 -0400, Nicholas Hastings escribió:
>   
>> Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about 
>> hyperthreading
>>
>> Saul Rennison wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> - Saul.
>>>
>>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Pentium D you mean?

 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton   
 wrote:

 
 
> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core  
> model
> here at work ...
>
> --mauirixxx
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>
> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core  
> cpu.
> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
>
> -ics
>
> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
>   
>   
>> Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
>> 
>> 
> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is  
> most likely
> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing  
> support enabled
> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
>   
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>> 
>> 
> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
>   
>   
>> Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>>
>> It's a dual core intel.
>>
>> dmesg says:
>> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
>>
>> I am not sure about the model.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
>>
>> 
>> 
>>> What CPU do you have in it?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my  
 server's fps.
 I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.

 Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:

 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0

 Same configuration in a windows box:

 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
 stats
 CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0

 CPU usage of the box is

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Ook
The Pentium D and the Pentium dual core are not the same thing. The Pentium 
D is just two pentium cores side by side on the same package, based on the 
netburst microarchitecture. The "Pentium Dual-Core" is not actually a 
pentium, but is based on core technology and uses the Pentium name. They are 
very different animals.

- Original Message - 
From: "Nicholas Hastings" 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds


> Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about
> hyperthreading
>
> Saul Rennison wrote:
>> I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Saul.
>>
>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Pentium D you mean?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core
 model
 here at work ...

 --mauirixxx

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
 Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

 That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core
 cpu.
 What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?

 -ics

 Dave Williams kirjoitti:

> Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
>
 incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is
 most likely
 at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing
 support enabled
 in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?

> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore

> Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>
> It's a dual core intel.
>
> dmesg says:
> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
>
> I am not sure about the model.
>
> Thank you
>
> El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
>
>
>> What CPU do you have in it?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my
>>> server's fps.
>>> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>>>
>>> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>>>
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
>>>
>>> Same configuration in a windows box:
>>>
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
>>>
>>> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
>>> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
>>> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>>>
>>> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the
>>> system i
>>> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Nevermore
I talked with the datacenter.
It is a Pentium 4 with hiperthreading.
Sory about the confusion

Now, anybody have any clue about my fps problem?

El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 19:43 -0400, Nicholas Hastings escribió:
> Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about 
> hyperthreading
> 
> Saul Rennison wrote:
> > I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Saul.
> >
> > On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Pentium D you mean?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton   
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core  
> >>> model
> >>> here at work ...
> >>>
> >>> --mauirixxx
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> >>>
> >>> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core  
> >>> cpu.
> >>> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
> >>>
> >>> -ics
> >>>
> >>> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
> >>>   
>  Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
>  
> >>> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is  
> >>> most likely
> >>> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing  
> >>> support enabled
> >>> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
> >>>   
>  -Original Message-
>  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>  
> >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
> >>>   
>  Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
>  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> 
>  It's a dual core intel.
> 
>  dmesg says:
>  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
> 
>  I am not sure about the model.
> 
>  Thank you
> 
>  El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
> 
>  
> > What CPU do you have in it?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore  
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my  
> >> server's fps.
> >> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
> >>
> >> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
> >>
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
> >>
> >> Same configuration in a windows box:
> >>
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
> >> stats
> >> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
> >>
> >> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> >> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> >> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
> >>
> >> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the  
> >> system i
> >> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Nicholas Hastings
Yes, they were called Pentium D unless you're just talking about 
hyperthreading

Saul Rennison wrote:
> I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...
>
> Thanks,
> - Saul.
>
> On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Pentium D you mean?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton   
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core  
>>> model
>>> here at work ...
>>>
>>> --mauirixxx
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>>>
>>> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core  
>>> cpu.
>>> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
>>>   
 Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
 
>>> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is  
>>> most likely
>>> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing  
>>> support enabled
>>> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
>>>   
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 
>>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
>>>   
 Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

 It's a dual core intel.

 dmesg says:
 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03

 I am not sure about the model.

 Thank you

 El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:

 
> What CPU do you have in it?
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore  
> wrote:
>
>   
>> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my  
>> server's fps.
>> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>>
>> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>>
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
>>
>> Same configuration in a windows box:
>>
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
>> stats
>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
>>
>> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
>> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
>> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>>
>> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the  
>> system i
>> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> ___
>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list  
>> archives,
>> 
>>> please visit:
>>>   
>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
>>
>>
>> 
 ___
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 archives,
 
>>> please visit:
>>>   
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Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Saul Rennison
I'm sure dual-core P4's exist...

Thanks,
- Saul.

On 9 Sep 2009, at 22:11, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pentium D you mean?
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton   
> wrote:
>
>> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core  
>> model
>> here at work ...
>>
>> --mauirixxx
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>>
>> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core  
>> cpu.
>> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
>>> Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
>> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is  
>> most likely
>> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing  
>> support enabled
>> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
>>> Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>>>
>>> It's a dual core intel.
>>>
>>> dmesg says:
>>> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
>>>
>>> I am not sure about the model.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
>>>
 What CPU do you have in it?

 Eric



 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore  
 wrote:

> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my  
> server's fps.
> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>
> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
>
> Same configuration in a windows box:
>
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
>
> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>
> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the  
> system i
> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> ___
> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list  
> archives,
>> please visit:
> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list  
>>> archives,
>> please visit:
>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
>>> ___
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>>> archives,
>> please visit:
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>>>
>>
>>
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>> archives,
>> please visit:
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>

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Rick Payton
yeah that's the one ...

--mauirixxx

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:12 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

Pentium D you mean?

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton  wrote:

> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core model
> here at work ...
>
> --mauirixxx
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>
> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core cpu.
> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
>
> -ics
>
> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
> > Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is most likely
> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing support enabled
> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
> > Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> >
> > It's a dual core intel.
> >
> > dmesg says:
> > Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
> >
> > I am not sure about the model.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
> >
> >> What CPU do you have in it?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
> >>
> >>> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
> >>> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
> >>>
> >>> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
> >>>
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
> >>>
> >>> Same configuration in a windows box:
> >>>
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
> >>>
> >>> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> >>> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> >>> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
> >>>
> >>> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
> >>> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread 1nsane
Pentium D you mean?

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rick Payton  wrote:

> It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core model
> here at work ...
>
> --mauirixxx
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>
> That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core cpu.
> What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?
>
> -ics
>
> Dave Williams kirjoitti:
> > Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified
> incorrectly. If this is the case it would be the kernel that is most likely
> at fault. Do you know if you have symmetric multi processing support enabled
> in your kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
> > Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> >
> > It's a dual core intel.
> >
> > dmesg says:
> > Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
> >
> > I am not sure about the model.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
> >
> >> What CPU do you have in it?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
> >>
> >>> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
> >>> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
> >>>
> >>> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
> >>>
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
> >>>
> >>> Same configuration in a windows box:
> >>>
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
> >>> stats
> >>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
> >>>
> >>> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> >>> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> >>> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
> >>>
> >>> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
> >>> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___
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> please visit:
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> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Rick Payton
It might actually be a newer dual core P4, I got a 3.0GHz dual core model here 
at work ...

--mauirixxx

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:41 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core cpu. 
What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?

-ics

Dave Williams kirjoitti:
> Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified incorrectly. 
> If this is the case it would be the kernel that is most likely at fault. Do 
> you know if you have symmetric multi processing support enabled in your 
> kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
> Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>
> It's a dual core intel.
>
> dmesg says: 
> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
>
> I am not sure about the model.
>
> Thank you
>
> El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
>   
>> What CPU do you have in it?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
>> 
>>> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
>>> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>>>
>>> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>>>
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
>>>
>>> Same configuration in a windows box:
>>>
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
>>>
>>> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
>>> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
>>> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>>>
>>> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
>>> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
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>>> please visit:
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>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Florian Uhlrich
Make sys_ticrate more than 1000. It is fixing xou problem with the FPS, 
but a sys_ticrate over 2500 make the game a little bit faster.

best regards

Florian Uhlrich
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:32:04 -0300
> From: Nevermore 
> Subject: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>   
> Message-ID: <1252510324.24590.0.ca...@localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>
> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
>
> Same configuration in a windows box:
>
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
> stats
> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
>
> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>
> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:42:05 -0400
> From: Eric Greer 
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
> To: ger...@tybsa.com, Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>   
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> What CPU do you have in it?
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
>   
>> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
>> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>>
>> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>>
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?0.50 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ? ? 6 ? ? 0 ?103.98 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?1.00 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ? ? 6 ? ? 0 ?214.50 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?1.20 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ? ? 6 ? ? 0 ?136.95 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?1.17 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ? ? 6 ? ? 0 ?123.05 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?2.00 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ? ? 6 ? ? 0 ?141.34 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?2.00 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ? ? 6 ? ? 0 ?112.69 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?2.00 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ? ? 6 ? ? 0 ?302.02 ? ? ? 0
>>
>> Same configuration in a windows box:
>>
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?1.56 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ?2651 ? 978 ?250.84 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?1.56 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ?2651 ? 978 ?233.92 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?3.13 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ?2651 ? 978 ?252.14 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?3.13 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ?2651 ? 978 ?231.70 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?3.13 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ?2651 ? 978 ?238.05 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?3.13 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ?2651 ? 978 ?236.71 ? ? ? 0
>> stats
>> CPU ? In ? ?Out ? Uptime ?Users ? FPS ? ?Players
>> ?3.13 ?0.00 ?0.00 ? ?2651 ? 978 ?240.79 ? ? ? 0
>>
>> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
>> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
>> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>>
>> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
>> have not phisic

Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread ics
That looks like P4 with Hyperthreading on it, not actual dual core cpu. 
What does cat /proc/cpuinfo say?

-ics

Dave Williams kirjoitti:
> Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified incorrectly. 
> If this is the case it would be the kernel that is most likely at fault. Do 
> you know if you have symmetric multi processing support enabled in your 
> kernel? Also, what is the OS that you are using?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
> Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds
>
> It's a dual core intel.
>
> dmesg says: 
> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03
>
> I am not sure about the model.
>
> Thank you
>
> El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
>   
>> What CPU do you have in it?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
>> 
>>> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
>>> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>>>
>>> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>>>
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
>>>
>>> Same configuration in a windows box:
>>>
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
>>> stats
>>> CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
>>>  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
>>>
>>> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
>>> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
>>> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>>>
>>> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
>>> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Dave Williams
Now, i would suggest that your chip *could* be being identified incorrectly. If 
this is the case it would be the kernel that is most likely at fault. Do you 
know if you have symmetric multi processing support enabled in your kernel? 
Also, what is the OS that you are using?

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nevermore
Sent: 09 September 2009 17:08
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

It's a dual core intel.

dmesg says: 
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03

I am not sure about the model.

Thank you

El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
> What CPU do you have in it?
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
> > The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
> > I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
> >
> > Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
> >
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
> >
> > Same configuration in a windows box:
> >
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
> >
> > CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> > I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> > I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
> >
> > I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
> > have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Nevermore
It's a dual core intel.

dmesg says: 
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping 03

I am not sure about the model.

Thank you

El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 11:42 -0400, Eric Greer escribió:
> What CPU do you have in it?
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
> > The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
> > I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
> >
> > Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
> >
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0
> >
> > Same configuration in a windows box:
> >
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
> > stats
> > CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
> >  3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0
> >
> > CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> > I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> > I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
> >
> > I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
> > have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
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[hlds_linux] Completely clean install Counter-Strike 1.6 server crashes

2009-09-09 Thread Hans Vos

Hi,

I just did a complete clean install of a Counter-Strike 1.6 game server 
using: "./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir . -verify_all".


When I start the game server is just keeps crashing. When I install AMX 
Mod X it exits with a segfault error. See the attached console.txt file 
for the output I see when I start the clean installed Counter-Strike 1.6 
game server.


When I copied the files from a current working installation the game 
server did start correctly. So I started comparing files and file sizes 
to see if anything was different.


Eventually I found out that the server would crash with the default 
server.cfg file of Valve. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I 
cannot figure out what is missing in the default server.cfg that would 
cause the game server to crash.


I'm running on the latest stable version of Debian. Nothing fancy 
installed, is a clean system with only a few extra packages.


--
Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,

Hans Vos
./hlds_run -binary ./hlds_i686 -game cstrike -pingboost 2 -autoupdate -secure 
+port 27025 +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx +servercfgfile "server.cfg" +mapchangecfgfile 
"server.cfg" +maxplayers 21 +map de_dust
Auto-restarting the server on crash
Updating server using Steam.
Checking bootstrapper version ...
Updating Installation
Checking/Installing 'Counter-Strike Base Content' version 35


Checking/Installing 'Linux Server Engine' version 53


Checking/Installing 'Half-Life Base Content' version 12


HLDS installation up to date

Console initialized.
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./valve/SAVE
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./platform/SAVE
Protocol version 48
Exe version 1.1.2.6/Stdio (cstrike)
Exe build: 15:58:06 Jun 15 2009 (4617)
STEAM Auth Server
couldn't exec language.cfg
Server IP address 80.84.250.116:27025
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./valve/SAVE
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./platform/SAVE
[S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. 
Continuing with current version anyway.

Adding master server 69.28.151.162:27010
Adding master server 72.165.61.189:27010
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./valve/SAVE
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./platform/SAVE
[S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. 
Continuing with current version anyway.

Adding master server 68.142.72.250:27010
Adding master server 69.28.151.162:27010
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./valve/SAVE
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./platform/SAVE
[S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. 
Continuing with current version anyway.
Adding master server 69.28.151.162:27010
Adding master server 68.142.72.250:27010

scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./valve/SAVE
scandir failed:/home/xxx/games/cs4/./platform/SAVE
[S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. 
Continuing with current version anyway.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Eric Greer
What CPU do you have in it?

Eric



On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Nevermore wrote:
> The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
> I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.
>
> Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:
>
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  0.50  0.00  0.00       6     0  103.98       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  1.00  0.00  0.00       6     0  214.50       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  1.20  0.00  0.00       6     0  136.95       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  1.17  0.00  0.00       6     0  123.05       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  2.00  0.00  0.00       6     0  141.34       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  2.00  0.00  0.00       6     0  112.69       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  2.00  0.00  0.00       6     0  302.02       0
>
> Same configuration in a windows box:
>
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  1.56  0.00  0.00    2651   978  250.84       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  1.56  0.00  0.00    2651   978  233.92       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  3.13  0.00  0.00    2651   978  252.14       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  3.13  0.00  0.00    2651   978  231.70       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  3.13  0.00  0.00    2651   978  238.05       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  3.13  0.00  0.00    2651   978  236.71       0
> stats
> CPU   In    Out   Uptime  Users   FPS    Players
>  3.13  0.00  0.00    2651   978  240.79       0
>
> CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
> I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
> I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.
>
> I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
> have not phisical access to the box to fix it.
>
> Thank you
>
>
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[hlds_linux] Very unstable FPS in hlds

2009-09-09 Thread Nevermore
The topic about 1000fps servers made me take a look at my server's fps.
I am seriously worried, because i have very unstable fps.

Running HLDS with sys_ticrate 350, fps_max 0 and -pinbgoost 2:

stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 0.50  0.00  0.00   6 0  103.98   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  214.50   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.20  0.00  0.00   6 0  136.95   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.17  0.00  0.00   6 0  123.05   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  141.34   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  112.69   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 2.00  0.00  0.00   6 0  302.02   0

Same configuration in a windows box:

CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  250.84   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 1.56  0.00  0.002651   978  233.92   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  252.14   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  231.70   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  238.05   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  236.71   0
stats
CPU   InOut   Uptime  Users   FPSPlayers
 3.13  0.00  0.002651   978  240.79   0

CPU usage of the box is at 23%, so this is not the problem.
I am using debian etch kernel 2.6.18-amd64
I tried recompiling for 1000hz and nothing changed.

I dont want to change kernel version, because if i break the system i
have not phisical access to the box to fix it.

Thank you


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Re: [hlds_linux] 1000 FPS CentOS Servers?

2009-09-09 Thread Gregg Hanpeter
Hee-effin-Haw!

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Crazy Canucks wrote:

> I blink in 201 ms because I have sli for my eyelids, and I overclocked
> my lower cortex!  250mhz baby!
>
> Completely off track, I know...
>
> Guy Watkins wrote:
> > I can blink my eyes in 299 ms.
> > I blink quickly because I am afraid of the dark!  :)
> >
> > } -Original Message-
> > } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
> > } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Greer
> > } Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:58 PM
> > } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] 1000 FPS CentOS Servers?
> > }
> > } I recently had a guy complain about ping from Chicago to Montreal.
> > } His ping was 30 and he proclaimed his internet was 'badass' and he
> > } pings 80 to china so my servers had a problem.
> > }
> > } I explained exactly how the internet works but he insisted my server
> > } had issues.  I further explained it takes 300ms to blink your eye.
> > } They named their clan '300ms or FAIL' and dedicated it to hating me
> > } :-)
> > }
> > } I feel honored :-)
> > }
> > } Eric
> > }
> > }
> > }
> > } On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Gregg Hanpeter
> wrote:
> > } > On a side note, whenever anyone complains about bad registration I
> > } usually
> > } > ask them for a traceroute and most often that player is shitty at the
> > } > moment. But anyways, with the many seasons I have spent in cal and
> cevo,
> > } I
> > } > know a cruddy server when I join it, especially when the ip begins
> with
> > } an 8
> > } > (hehe).
> > } >
> > } > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Gregg Hanpeter 
> > } wrote:
> > } >
> > } >> Yes, I probably would if there were 9 other players in the server..
> But
> > } you
> > } >> have to keep in mind that I am on comcast and they blow. More often
> > } than not
> > } >> I blame the isp or anyone that is located in giganet.
> > } >>
> > } >>
> > } >>
> > } >>
> > } >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Eric Greer 
> wrote:
> > } >>
> > } >>> I think servers above 350 FPS are just one of those "What the
> customer
> > } >>> wants, the customer gets" things.
> > } >>>
> > } >>> Do you think you would notice a difference with tick rate at 100
> and
> > } >>> FPS over 350 Gregg?
> > } >>>
> > } >>> Eric
> > } >>>
> > } >>>
> > } >>>
> > } >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Gregg Hanpeter >
> > } >>> wrote:
> > } >>> > I would be complaining. I hate cruddy registry. If you take this
> > } >>> discussion
> > } >>> > to CEVO forums you would get a lot of negative opinions to low
> fps
> > } >>> rates.
> > } >>> > Sure the average joe won't notice but I sure would.
> > } >>> >
> > } >>> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ulrich Block 
> wrote:
> > } >>> >
> > } >>> >> Stcok fps ist ~245 even if the value is set to fps_max 300 ^^
> And
> > } no
> > } >>> our
> > } >>> >> players didnt even realise setting that i set fps_max to 75 @
> tick
> > } 66.
> > } >>> >> I was just curious if they would realise and they did not...
> > } >>> >>
> > } >>> >> Eric Greer schrieb:
> > } >>> >> > I was reading about 'if its really worth it' today.
> > } >>> >> > Apparently 500 FPS servers add 2ms of delay while 1000 FPS
> > } servers
> > } >>> add
> > } >>> >> 1ms
> > } >>> >> > delay.  Also, 2000 FPS adds only .5ms.
> > } >>> >> >
> > } >>> >> > Considering it takes the human being 300ms to blink his eye,
> and
> > } i
> > } >>> can do
> > } >>> >> > that while typing accurately... talking about anything over
> > } 350fps
> > } >>> >> literally
> > } >>> >> > becomes trivial.  Include in tick rates deprecating this math
> and
> > } >>> you're
> > } >>> >> > literally down to nothing more than the CPU calculating the
> same
> > } crap
> > } >>> >> over
> > } >>> >> > and over and over.
> > } >>> >> >
> > } >>> >> > The most important thing is tick rate.  In my opinion, if a
> blind
> > } >>> study
> > } >>> >> was
> > } >>> >> > done NOBODY would be able to accurately tell the difference
> > } between a
> > } >>> 100
> > } >>> >> > tick 350fps server compared to anything higher - ever.
> > } >>> >> >
> > } >>> >> > But that never stopped people from selling what the public
> wants
> > } to
> > } >>> pay
> > } >>> >> for
> > } >>> >> > :-).  Plus, the amount of placebo effect involved with 'pro'
> PC
> > } >>> gamers is
> > } >>> >> so
> > } >>> >> > intense I have a hard time comprehending it.   Simply telling
> > } them
> > } >>> >> they've
> > } >>> >> > switched to a 1000 FPS server should make them rave about how
> > } great
> > } >>> it
> > } >>> >> is.
> > } >>> >> >  The only REAL difference is what number comes up in tests.
> > } >>> >> >
> > } >>> >> > I'm sure gamers will never believe this and you'll find lines
> of
> > } >>> people
> > } >>> >> > waiting to tell you that they can see the difference between
> 350,
> > } >>> 500,
> > } >>> >> 1000
> > } >>> >> > and 2000 FPS servers.  *sigh*
> > } >>> >> >
> > } >>> >> > Eric
> > } >>> >> >
> > } >

Re: [hlds_linux] 1000 FPS CentOS Servers?

2009-09-09 Thread Crazy Canucks
I blink in 201 ms because I have sli for my eyelids, and I overclocked 
my lower cortex!  250mhz baby!

Completely off track, I know...

Guy Watkins wrote:
> I can blink my eyes in 299 ms.
> I blink quickly because I am afraid of the dark!  :)
>
> } -Original Message-
> } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
> } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Greer
> } Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:58 PM
> } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] 1000 FPS CentOS Servers?
> } 
> } I recently had a guy complain about ping from Chicago to Montreal.
> } His ping was 30 and he proclaimed his internet was 'badass' and he
> } pings 80 to china so my servers had a problem.
> } 
> } I explained exactly how the internet works but he insisted my server
> } had issues.  I further explained it takes 300ms to blink your eye.
> } They named their clan '300ms or FAIL' and dedicated it to hating me
> } :-)
> } 
> } I feel honored :-)
> } 
> } Eric
> } 
> } 
> } 
> } On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Gregg Hanpeter wrote:
> } > On a side note, whenever anyone complains about bad registration I
> } usually
> } > ask them for a traceroute and most often that player is shitty at the
> } > moment. But anyways, with the many seasons I have spent in cal and cevo,
> } I
> } > know a cruddy server when I join it, especially when the ip begins with
> } an 8
> } > (hehe).
> } >
> } > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Gregg Hanpeter 
> } wrote:
> } >
> } >> Yes, I probably would if there were 9 other players in the server.. But
> } you
> } >> have to keep in mind that I am on comcast and they blow. More often
> } than not
> } >> I blame the isp or anyone that is located in giganet.
> } >>
> } >>
> } >>
> } >>
> } >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Eric Greer  wrote:
> } >>
> } >>> I think servers above 350 FPS are just one of those "What the customer
> } >>> wants, the customer gets" things.
> } >>>
> } >>> Do you think you would notice a difference with tick rate at 100 and
> } >>> FPS over 350 Gregg?
> } >>>
> } >>> Eric
> } >>>
> } >>>
> } >>>
> } >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Gregg Hanpeter
> } >>> wrote:
> } >>> > I would be complaining. I hate cruddy registry. If you take this
> } >>> discussion
> } >>> > to CEVO forums you would get a lot of negative opinions to low fps
> } >>> rates.
> } >>> > Sure the average joe won't notice but I sure would.
> } >>> >
> } >>> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ulrich Block  wrote:
> } >>> >
> } >>> >> Stcok fps ist ~245 even if the value is set to fps_max 300 ^^ And
> } no
> } >>> our
> } >>> >> players didnt even realise setting that i set fps_max to 75 @ tick
> } 66.
> } >>> >> I was just curious if they would realise and they did not...
> } >>> >>
> } >>> >> Eric Greer schrieb:
> } >>> >> > I was reading about 'if its really worth it' today.
> } >>> >> > Apparently 500 FPS servers add 2ms of delay while 1000 FPS
> } servers
> } >>> add
> } >>> >> 1ms
> } >>> >> > delay.  Also, 2000 FPS adds only .5ms.
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> > Considering it takes the human being 300ms to blink his eye, and
> } i
> } >>> can do
> } >>> >> > that while typing accurately... talking about anything over
> } 350fps
> } >>> >> literally
> } >>> >> > becomes trivial.  Include in tick rates deprecating this math and
> } >>> you're
> } >>> >> > literally down to nothing more than the CPU calculating the same
> } crap
> } >>> >> over
> } >>> >> > and over and over.
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> > The most important thing is tick rate.  In my opinion, if a blind
> } >>> study
> } >>> >> was
> } >>> >> > done NOBODY would be able to accurately tell the difference
> } between a
> } >>> 100
> } >>> >> > tick 350fps server compared to anything higher - ever.
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> > But that never stopped people from selling what the public wants
> } to
> } >>> pay
> } >>> >> for
> } >>> >> > :-).  Plus, the amount of placebo effect involved with 'pro' PC
> } >>> gamers is
> } >>> >> so
> } >>> >> > intense I have a hard time comprehending it.   Simply telling
> } them
> } >>> >> they've
> } >>> >> > switched to a 1000 FPS server should make them rave about how
> } great
> } >>> it
> } >>> >> is.
> } >>> >> >  The only REAL difference is what number comes up in tests.
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> > I'm sure gamers will never believe this and you'll find lines of
> } >>> people
> } >>> >> > waiting to tell you that they can see the difference between 350,
> } >>> 500,
> } >>> >> 1000
> } >>> >> > and 2000 FPS servers.  *sigh*
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> > Eric
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Daniel Nilsson <
> } >>> daniel.joki...@gmail.com
> } >>> >> >wrote:
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> >
> } >>> >> >> It´s very true that many do not see the difference from
> } different
> } >>> >> >> ticrates. Mainly because thare are no big difference (Especialy
> } from
> } >>> 66
> } >>> >> >> to 100). Now several of you wi