Re: [hlds_linux] regarding server ID's and Tokens

2011-11-21 Thread Jesse Porter 
awkward.
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Re: [hlds_linux] regarding server ID's and Tokens

2011-11-21 Thread clad iron 
I sent this to you tony, but i just wanted to add it here so others could
see the issue i had and maybe it will help someone else.

683  works now.  In the token for 683, there is a "0" (zero) and a letter
> "O" (capital letter).  When looking at it after doing cl_gameserver_list,
> it shows both being the same. (identical, either 0 and 0 OR O and O)
>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Tony Paloma wrote:

> Clad,
>
> It appears you were using a zero in place of a capital 'O' for one of the
> characters in your identity token. I'd recommend copy and pasting rather
> than typing it on your own. See your email for more details.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of clad iron
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:51 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] regarding server ID's and Tokens
>
> This is what was sent to Tony 7 days ago.
>
> Received auth challenge; signing into gameserver account...
> > L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: Received auth challenge; signing into
> gameserver account...
> > Steamworks Stats: Received SERVER session id: 1856394173 Game server
> > authentication: FAILURE!
> > L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: Game server authentication: FAILURE!
> >Incorrect identity token
> > L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08:Incorrect identity token
> > L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: server_cvar: "sv_registration_message"
> "Incorrect identity token"
> >
> >
> This was the same message received before i reset 3 servers.
> After updating the Token related to the ID. i still get the same error.
>
> Tony has seen the tokens and there is no way for a mistake when typing the
> tokens.
> This has been tried with and with out quotes, and it effects 3 servers.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:08 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What issue?
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:53 AM, clad iron  wrote:
> >
> > > Tony or anyone from Valve , can you give an update regarding the
> > > Server Token issue.
> > > I presume Tony passed on the info.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread timur 'grammaton' celikkesen 

They call it "Social Gaming"..



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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: ics

Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

If you think about it a bit, only difference is that you connect to
particular server after search alone and not with 3 friends together.
The servers location, what map it runs or should run is measured and
thus used. Matchmaking as a word is not the best selection but it comes
from matching players with servers (l5d's, tf2) or players with same
level of skill players (cs:go)

-ics

21.11.2011 19:33, Emil Larsson kirjoitti:

I thought TF2 had no matchmaking (not really counting quickplay or the
unoffical TF2lobby :P).

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:11 PM, ics  wrote:


L4d introduced it, l4d2 improved it, tf2 refined (harhar if you get the
joke) it and cs go will have ir complete with new features.

-ics

- Alkuperäinen viesti -

Please don't call that matchmaking.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Marcel  wrote:


On 21.11.2011 11:58, Roberto Omezzolli wrote:


Is there a Matchmaking System from Valve yet? As far as I Know, not
yet …


Left 4 Dead?


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Re: [hlds_linux] regarding server ID's and Tokens

2011-11-21 Thread Tony Paloma 
Clad,

It appears you were using a zero in place of a capital 'O' for one of the 
characters in your identity token. I'd recommend copy and pasting rather than 
typing it on your own. See your email for more details.

Thanks,
Tony

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of clad iron
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:51 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] regarding server ID's and Tokens

This is what was sent to Tony 7 days ago.

Received auth challenge; signing into gameserver account...
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: Received auth challenge; signing into gameserver 
> account...
> Steamworks Stats: Received SERVER session id: 1856394173 Game server 
> authentication: FAILURE!
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: Game server authentication: FAILURE!
>Incorrect identity token
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08:Incorrect identity token
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: server_cvar: "sv_registration_message" "Incorrect 
> identity token"
>
>
This was the same message received before i reset 3 servers.
After updating the Token related to the ID. i still get the same error.

Tony has seen the tokens and there is no way for a mistake when typing the 
tokens.
This has been tried with and with out quotes, and it effects 3 servers.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:08 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What issue?
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:53 AM, clad iron  wrote:
>
> > Tony or anyone from Valve , can you give an update regarding the 
> > Server Token issue.
> > I presume Tony passed on the info.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread ics 
If you think about it a bit, only difference is that you connect to 
particular server after search alone and not with 3 friends together. 
The servers location, what map it runs or should run is measured and 
thus used. Matchmaking as a word is not the best selection but it comes 
from matching players with servers (l5d's, tf2) or players with same 
level of skill players (cs:go)


-ics

21.11.2011 19:33, Emil Larsson kirjoitti:

I thought TF2 had no matchmaking (not really counting quickplay or the
unoffical TF2lobby :P).

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:11 PM, ics  wrote:


L4d introduced it, l4d2 improved it, tf2 refined (harhar if you get the
joke) it and cs go will have ir complete with new features.

-ics

- Alkuperäinen viesti -

Please don't call that matchmaking.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Marcel  wrote:


On 21.11.2011 11:58, Roberto Omezzolli wrote:


Is there a Matchmaking System from Valve yet? As far as I Know, not
yet …


Left 4 Dead?


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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread Emil Larsson 
I thought TF2 had no matchmaking (not really counting quickplay or the
unoffical TF2lobby :P).

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:11 PM, ics  wrote:

> L4d introduced it, l4d2 improved it, tf2 refined (harhar if you get the
> joke) it and cs go will have ir complete with new features.
>
> -ics
>
> - Alkuperäinen viesti -
> > Please don't call that matchmaking.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Marcel  wrote:
> >
> > > On 21.11.2011 11:58, Roberto Omezzolli wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is there a Matchmaking System from Valve yet? As far as I Know, not
> > > > yet …
> > > >
> > >
> > > Left 4 Dead?
> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread Brian Simon 
Valve, doing QA? No. That will never happen. Why else would these betas
exist?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Roberto Omezzolli
wrote:

>
> Why can't Valve just give a simple QA if there will be dedicated servers
> for
> the community and if yes, what will be the difference between the free
> dedicated servers and the valve own hosted matchmaking system.
>
>
> /Rob
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von ics
> Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2011 06:39
> An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated
>
> Yes i know HPE is behind the game and Valve is only producing and
> supervising mainly but they will run the servers as they have those
> already in place.
>
> Afaik HPE did some sort of css port to xbox360 and thats where they
> started with this new game idea. CSS was just a small step towards that
> and as soon as they got the hint, it was ditched right again. I guess we
> should ditch it too.
>
> -ics
>
> 21.11.2011 3:32, Nomaan Ahmad kirjoitti:
> > http://www.hiddenpath.com/
> >
> > VALVe is working with HPE to bring out CS:GO. I think they started
> working
> > with them around the time CSS went OB, one of their first CSS update was
> to
> > get CSS on mac.
> >
> > OT: I have to say that since css was made compatible with mac, I started
> > experiencing weird problems... like the console highlighting doesn't show
> > up anymore.
> >
> > On 21 November 2011 00:03, msleeper
>  wrote:
> >
> >> You guys realize that Valve is not developing CS:GO, right? That
> >> another studio is handling the development of it?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, ics  wrote:
> >>> Don't get too excited. Valve has linux servers so it might be just for
> >> them alone internally for the beta duration.
> >>> -ics
> >>>
> >>> - Alkuperäinen viesti -
>  "Working on/Testing the Linux dedicated servers for the beta."
> 
>  https://twitter.com/#%21/csgo_dev/status/134392116574027776
> 
>  Yay :-D
> 
>  On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Roberto Omezzolli
>    wrote:
> > Well they would kill everything that made HL1 and HL2 that important,
> > if they did not release fully dedicated servers. And I am not talking
> > about those lame cod dedicated servers
> >
> > /Rob
> >
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von
> > Valentin G.
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 19. November 2011 17:24
> > An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated
> >
> > It would be no problem to only allow cross-play on official servers.
> > And the beta is PC only anyway so this would not be a reason.
> >
> > I believe it would be very important to allow community hosted
> servers
> > once the beta hits a certain scale. Of course when only a limited
> > number of people have access to the beta it definitely makes sense to
> > have the testing happen on the official servers.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Saul Rennison
> >   wrote:
> >> Valid point. Would prefer crossplay+official servers than no
> >> crossplay and unofficial. I'm sure they'll find a compromise that
> >> works for everyone.
> >>
> >> On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Russell Smith
> >>   wrote:
> >>> I was actually wondering if Valve would do this due to the cross
> >>> platform
> >> play.  Console players aren't used to the paradigm of dedicated
> >> servers
> > run
> >> by the community.  So it might reflect badly on Valve and the game
> >> if a player joined a server and had to deal with some form of admin
> >> abuse, or server mods through plugins.
> >>> On 11/19/2011 3:17 AM, Saul Rennison wrote:
>  That's ridiculous. Maybe registered servers have superseded this
>  idea?
> 
>  On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Chris
>  Strand  wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> >> so please let us stay on target:   dedicated servers for
> >> cs:go - yes
> > or
> > no?
> > I spoke to Chet Faliszek at Eurogamer about this. There will
> > not be dedicated servers that the public can run in the beta.
> > As some of you
> >> may
> > know Valve are intending to introduce some sort of match
> > making system
> >> - I
> > was told this will run on their own servers and these will be
> > the only servers available for the beta. I asked how it would
> > be possible to
> > have
> > competitive matches in the beta if you don't own the server
> > and hence
>  can't
> > set the password - I

Re: [hlds_linux] regarding server ID's and Tokens

2011-11-21 Thread clad iron 
This is what was sent to Tony 7 days ago.

Received auth challenge; signing into gameserver account...
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: Received auth challenge; signing into gameserver 
> account...
> Steamworks Stats: Received SERVER session id: 1856394173
> Game server authentication: FAILURE!
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: Game server authentication: FAILURE!
>Incorrect identity token
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08:Incorrect identity token
> L 11/11/2011 - 16:49:08: server_cvar: "sv_registration_message" "Incorrect 
> identity token"
>
>
This was the same message received before i reset 3 servers.
After updating the Token related to the ID. i still get the same error.

Tony has seen the tokens and there is no way for a mistake when typing the
tokens.
This has been tried with and with out quotes, and it effects 3 servers.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:08 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What issue?
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:53 AM, clad iron  wrote:
>
> > Tony or anyone from Valve , can you give an update regarding the Server
> > Token issue.
> > I presume Tony passed on the info.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread ics 
L4d introduced it, l4d2 improved it, tf2 refined (harhar if you get the joke) 
it and cs go will have ir complete with new features.

-ics

- Alkuperäinen viesti -
> Please don't call that matchmaking.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Marcel  wrote:
> 
> > On 21.11.2011 11:58, Roberto Omezzolli wrote:
> > 
> > > Is there a Matchmaking System from Valve yet? As far as I Know, not
> > > yet …
> > > 
> > 
> > Left 4 Dead?
> > 
> > 
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Re: [hlds_linux] regarding server ID's and Tokens

2011-11-21 Thread 1nsane 
What issue?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:53 AM, clad iron  wrote:

> Tony or anyone from Valve , can you give an update regarding the Server
> Token issue.
> I presume Tony passed on the info.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread Jonas Stendahl 
Please don't call that matchmaking.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Marcel  wrote:

> On 21.11.2011 11:58, Roberto Omezzolli wrote:
>
>> Is there a Matchmaking System from Valve yet? As far as I Know, not yet …
>>
>
> Left 4 Dead?
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread Marcel 

On 21.11.2011 11:58, Roberto Omezzolli wrote:

Is there a Matchmaking System from Valve yet? As far as I Know, not yet …


Left 4 Dead?

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Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread Roberto Omezzolli 
Is there a Matchmaking System from Valve yet? As far as I Know, not yet …
but cs go will have one so my question is still on the table!

 

/Rob

 

 

Von: Bajdechi "Nightbox" Alexandru [mailto:alexandrualexa...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2011 11:57
An: r.omezzo...@ociris.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

 

Is there a game that doesn't have dedicated servers support from Valve ? As
far as I know, not yet :)

2011/11/21 Roberto Omezzolli 


Why can't Valve just give a simple QA if there will be dedicated servers for
the community and if yes, what will be the difference between the free
dedicated servers and the valve own hosted matchmaking system.



/Rob

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com

[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von ics
Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2011 06:39

An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

Yes i know HPE is behind the game and Valve is only producing and
supervising mainly but they will run the servers as they have those
already in place.

Afaik HPE did some sort of css port to xbox360 and thats where they
started with this new game idea. CSS was just a small step towards that
and as soon as they got the hint, it was ditched right again. I guess we
should ditch it too.

-ics

21.11.2011 3:32, Nomaan Ahmad kirjoitti:
> http://www.hiddenpath.com/
>
> VALVe is working with HPE to bring out CS:GO. I think they started working
> with them around the time CSS went OB, one of their first CSS update was
to
> get CSS on mac.
>
> OT: I have to say that since css was made compatible with mac, I started
> experiencing weird problems... like the console highlighting doesn't show
> up anymore.
>
> On 21 November 2011 00:03, msleeper  wrote:
>
>> You guys realize that Valve is not developing CS:GO, right? That
>> another studio is handling the development of it?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, ics  wrote:
>>> Don't get too excited. Valve has linux servers so it might be just for
>> them alone internally for the beta duration.
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> - Alkuperäinen viesti -
 "Working on/Testing the Linux dedicated servers for the beta."

 https://twitter.com/#%21/csgo_dev/status/134392116574027776

 Yay :-D

 On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Roberto Omezzolli
   wrote:
> Well they would kill everything that made HL1 and HL2 that important,
> if they did not release fully dedicated servers. And I am not talking
> about those lame cod dedicated servers
>
> /Rob
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von
> Valentin G.
> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. November 2011 17:24
> An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated
>
> It would be no problem to only allow cross-play on official servers.
> And the beta is PC only anyway so this would not be a reason.
>
> I believe it would be very important to allow community hosted servers
> once the beta hits a certain scale. Of course when only a limited
> number of people have access to the beta it definitely makes sense to
> have the testing happen on the official servers.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Saul Rennison
>   wrote:
>> Valid point. Would prefer crossplay+official servers than no
>> crossplay and unofficial. I'm sure they'll find a compromise that
>> works for everyone.
>>
>> On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Russell Smith
>>   wrote:
>>> I was actually wondering if Valve would do this due to the cross
>>> platform
>> play.  Console players aren't used to the paradigm of dedicated
>> servers
> run
>> by the community.  So it might reflect badly on Valve and the game
>> if a player joined a server and had to deal with some form of admin
>> abuse, or server mods through plugins.
>>> On 11/19/2011 3:17 AM, Saul Rennison wrote:
 That's ridiculous. Maybe registered servers have superseded this
 idea?

 On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Chris
 Strand  wrote:
> Hey,
>
>> so please let us stay on target:   dedicated servers for
>> cs:go - yes
> or
> no?
> I spoke to Chet Faliszek at Eurogamer about this. There will
> not be dedicated servers that the public can run in the beta.
> As some of you
>> may
> know Valve are intending to introduce some sort of match
> making system
>> - I
> was told this will run on their own servers and these will be
> the only servers available for the beta. I asked how it would
> be possible

Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread Bajdechi "Nightbox" Alexandru 
Is there a game that doesn't have dedicated servers support from Valve ? As
far as I know, not yet :)

2011/11/21 Roberto Omezzolli 

>
> Why can't Valve just give a simple QA if there will be dedicated servers
> for
> the community and if yes, what will be the difference between the free
> dedicated servers and the valve own hosted matchmaking system.
>
>
> /Rob
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von ics
> Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2011 06:39
> An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated
>
> Yes i know HPE is behind the game and Valve is only producing and
> supervising mainly but they will run the servers as they have those
> already in place.
>
> Afaik HPE did some sort of css port to xbox360 and thats where they
> started with this new game idea. CSS was just a small step towards that
> and as soon as they got the hint, it was ditched right again. I guess we
> should ditch it too.
>
> -ics
>
> 21.11.2011 3:32, Nomaan Ahmad kirjoitti:
> > http://www.hiddenpath.com/
> >
> > VALVe is working with HPE to bring out CS:GO. I think they started
> working
> > with them around the time CSS went OB, one of their first CSS update was
> to
> > get CSS on mac.
> >
> > OT: I have to say that since css was made compatible with mac, I started
> > experiencing weird problems... like the console highlighting doesn't show
> > up anymore.
> >
> > On 21 November 2011 00:03, msleeper
>  wrote:
> >
> >> You guys realize that Valve is not developing CS:GO, right? That
> >> another studio is handling the development of it?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, ics  wrote:
> >>> Don't get too excited. Valve has linux servers so it might be just for
> >> them alone internally for the beta duration.
> >>> -ics
> >>>
> >>> - Alkuperäinen viesti -
>  "Working on/Testing the Linux dedicated servers for the beta."
> 
>  https://twitter.com/#%21/csgo_dev/status/134392116574027776
> 
>  Yay :-D
> 
>  On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Roberto Omezzolli
>    wrote:
> > Well they would kill everything that made HL1 and HL2 that important,
> > if they did not release fully dedicated servers. And I am not talking
> > about those lame cod dedicated servers
> >
> > /Rob
> >
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von
> > Valentin G.
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 19. November 2011 17:24
> > An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated
> >
> > It would be no problem to only allow cross-play on official servers.
> > And the beta is PC only anyway so this would not be a reason.
> >
> > I believe it would be very important to allow community hosted
> servers
> > once the beta hits a certain scale. Of course when only a limited
> > number of people have access to the beta it definitely makes sense to
> > have the testing happen on the official servers.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Saul Rennison
> >   wrote:
> >> Valid point. Would prefer crossplay+official servers than no
> >> crossplay and unofficial. I'm sure they'll find a compromise that
> >> works for everyone.
> >>
> >> On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Russell Smith
> >>   wrote:
> >>> I was actually wondering if Valve would do this due to the cross
> >>> platform
> >> play.  Console players aren't used to the paradigm of dedicated
> >> servers
> > run
> >> by the community.  So it might reflect badly on Valve and the game
> >> if a player joined a server and had to deal with some form of admin
> >> abuse, or server mods through plugins.
> >>> On 11/19/2011 3:17 AM, Saul Rennison wrote:
>  That's ridiculous. Maybe registered servers have superseded this
>  idea?
> 
>  On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Chris
>  Strand  wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> >> so please let us stay on target:   dedicated servers for
> >> cs:go - yes
> > or
> > no?
> > I spoke to Chet Faliszek at Eurogamer about this. There will
> > not be dedicated servers that the public can run in the beta.
> > As some of you
> >> may
> > know Valve are intending to introduce some sort of match
> > making system
> >> - I
> > was told this will run on their own servers and these will be
> > the only servers available for the beta. I asked how it would
> > be possible to
> > have
> > competitive matches in the beta if you don't own the server
> > and hence
>  can't
> > set the password - I didn'

Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

2011-11-21 Thread Roberto Omezzolli 

Why can't Valve just give a simple QA if there will be dedicated servers for
the community and if yes, what will be the difference between the free
dedicated servers and the valve own hosted matchmaking system.


/Rob

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von ics
Gesendet: Montag, 21. November 2011 06:39
An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated

Yes i know HPE is behind the game and Valve is only producing and 
supervising mainly but they will run the servers as they have those 
already in place.

Afaik HPE did some sort of css port to xbox360 and thats where they 
started with this new game idea. CSS was just a small step towards that 
and as soon as they got the hint, it was ditched right again. I guess we 
should ditch it too.

-ics

21.11.2011 3:32, Nomaan Ahmad kirjoitti:
> http://www.hiddenpath.com/
>
> VALVe is working with HPE to bring out CS:GO. I think they started working
> with them around the time CSS went OB, one of their first CSS update was
to
> get CSS on mac.
>
> OT: I have to say that since css was made compatible with mac, I started
> experiencing weird problems... like the console highlighting doesn't show
> up anymore.
>
> On 21 November 2011 00:03, msleeper  wrote:
>
>> You guys realize that Valve is not developing CS:GO, right? That
>> another studio is handling the development of it?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, ics  wrote:
>>> Don't get too excited. Valve has linux servers so it might be just for
>> them alone internally for the beta duration.
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> - Alkuperäinen viesti -
 "Working on/Testing the Linux dedicated servers for the beta."

 https://twitter.com/#%21/csgo_dev/status/134392116574027776

 Yay :-D

 On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Roberto Omezzolli
   wrote:
> Well they would kill everything that made HL1 and HL2 that important,
> if they did not release fully dedicated servers. And I am not talking
> about those lame cod dedicated servers
>
> /Rob
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von
> Valentin G.
> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. November 2011 17:24
> An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Global Offensive Dedicated
>
> It would be no problem to only allow cross-play on official servers.
> And the beta is PC only anyway so this would not be a reason.
>
> I believe it would be very important to allow community hosted servers
> once the beta hits a certain scale. Of course when only a limited
> number of people have access to the beta it definitely makes sense to
> have the testing happen on the official servers.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Saul Rennison
>   wrote:
>> Valid point. Would prefer crossplay+official servers than no
>> crossplay and unofficial. I'm sure they'll find a compromise that
>> works for everyone.
>>
>> On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Russell Smith
>>   wrote:
>>> I was actually wondering if Valve would do this due to the cross
>>> platform
>> play.  Console players aren't used to the paradigm of dedicated
>> servers
> run
>> by the community.  So it might reflect badly on Valve and the game
>> if a player joined a server and had to deal with some form of admin
>> abuse, or server mods through plugins.
>>> On 11/19/2011 3:17 AM, Saul Rennison wrote:
 That's ridiculous. Maybe registered servers have superseded this
 idea?

 On Saturday, November 19, 2011, Chris
 Strand  wrote:
> Hey,
>
>> so please let us stay on target:   dedicated servers for
>> cs:go - yes
> or
> no?
> I spoke to Chet Faliszek at Eurogamer about this. There will
> not be dedicated servers that the public can run in the beta.
> As some of you
>> may
> know Valve are intending to introduce some sort of match
> making system
>> - I
> was told this will run on their own servers and these will be
> the only servers available for the beta. I asked how it would
> be possible to
> have
> competitive matches in the beta if you don't own the server
> and hence
 can't
> set the password - I didn't get a very clear response but I
> got the impression it would not be possible.
>
> Fortunately there *will *be dedicated servers for the full
> launch,
>> however
> these will not be able to take part in the match making
> system; that
>> will
> continue to run on Valve's servers only.
>
> Be