Re: [hlds_linux] Error Updating via SteamCMD

[Weasel's Lair]

Yeah, I *HATE* when my servers get over-flown.  They are right under
the approach path for Chicago's O'Hare airport and it prevents them
from staying updated all the time.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Error Updating via SteamCMD

Bruno Garcia Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:43:04 -0700

Just so you know, I've used -validate before and it removed some of my
configuration files. It's not required for the updated.
Related to the problem: try again in a few hours, perhaps the servers are
over flown

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Re: [hlds_linux] Error Updating via SteamCMD

[Bruno Garcia]

Just so you know, I've used -validate before and it removed some of my
configuration files. It's not required for the updated.
Related to the problem: try again in a few hours, perhaps the servers are
over flown


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jason  wrote:

> 6 of my 7 servers updated fine tonightthere is one of them which keeps
> getting the following error:
>
> Error! App '232250' state is 0x626 after update job
>
> I've updated for a while now with no issues, my update line is:
>
> ./steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir tf2 +app_update 232250
> validate +quit
>
> I've removed the validate and still get the error.not sure if there's
> anything else I can try and this point.
>
> Ubuntu 12.04 server -- plenty of drive space available
>
> Thank you in advance.
> Jason
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[hlds_linux] Error Updating via SteamCMD

[Jason]

6 of my 7 servers updated fine tonightthere is one of them which keeps
getting the following error:

Error! App '232250' state is 0x626 after update job

I've updated for a while now with no issues, my update line is:

./steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir tf2 +app_update 232250
validate +quit

I've removed the validate and still get the error.not sure if there's
anything else I can try and this point.

Ubuntu 12.04 server -- plenty of drive space available

Thank you in advance.
Jason
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[hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Eric Smith]

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are below. 
The new version is 1945435.

-Eric

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- Added the Fall 2013 Acorns Crate Key
- Added the Fall 2013 Gourd Crate Key
- Automated craft bots can no longer craft high-value items (i.e., hats)
- Fixed Nessie's Nine Iron missing gameplay description
- Fixed exploit that allowed dead players to attack living players
- Fixed disguised Blue team Spies showing blue health particles over their 
heads when disguised as the Red team
- Fixed the Sandvich meter being drawn in the HUD when the Sandvich is not 
equipped
- Fixed a bug that would cause some players to be unable to change their active 
item preset
- Strange Part: Kills with a Taunt Attack can now be applied to Strange Knives 
and Fists
- Strange Part: Kills While Explosive-Jumping and Strange Part: Posthumous 
Kills can now be applied to The Loose Cannon


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[hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update coming

[Eric Smith]

We're working on a mandatory update for TF2. We should have it ready soon. 

This is not the Halloween update.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[Gordon Reynolds]

I'd be for a cvar if it took you out of the quickplay pool, as it does seem
to change how things are "supposed to" take place.

Then again maybe they have something completely different in store for us
this year?


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Kyle Sanderson  wrote:

> > I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam|
> update...
> If you can't build accurate cubemaps without significant effort, and the
> Hammer editor display regressed to some strange black state. I'd hazard a
> guess to say they're not well made, or they've put a significant amount of
> extra time into finding hacks to glue it all back manually. Both are
> likely, and completely possible. I know a few CS:S mappers have a VM that
> hasn't been updated for this very reason.
>
> I never said it wasn't possible to do it with the new tools that are full
> of regressions. However, this is still the primary reason why I stopped
> making my map at alpha3. Someone at Valve saved the world from an
> abomination.
>
> > Is this what you mean them being broken?
> The buildcubemaps concmd hasn't functioned properly since Steam| shipped.
> They're not included in the BSP, or they have the wrong name in the BSP. I
> think someone attempted a fix early on as the bug changed (maybe I'm just
> scrambled)? Cubemaps display fine in existing maps, which is probably why
> no one at Valve cares. This is an end of product bug, not really a "oh hey
> let's build our cube maps now!" kind of thing, which is probably why a lot
> of people aren't running into it. There's still a significant chunk,
> though.
>
> Those who had the misfortune of updating now don't use a legitimate copy of
> the game to map.
> Kyle.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Ross Bemrose  wrote:
>
> > I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam|
> update...
> > are you really saying they all pirated an older version of the game?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Kyle Sanderson  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Not to be that guy, but the bug tracker is largely dead for already
> > ported
> > > games. Alfred seems to be the only one watching now. You still can't
> > > publish a map since Steam| shipped. Cubemaps and parts of hammer are
> > still
> > > largely broken. Besides pirating an old version of the game, you're out
> > of
> > > luck for a once smooth(er) experience as a mapper.
> > >
> > > Kyle.
> > > On 2013-10-10 2:02 AM, "Rudy Bleeker"  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track
> all
> > > > issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
> > > > announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the
> > > games
> > > > for us server maintainers.
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a
> > forum
> > > > > thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I
> > respect
> > > > > your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this
> > > > issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > -ics
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Carl kirjoitti:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to
> play
> > > the
> > > > >> game.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work
> > together,
> > > > >> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
> > > > >> achievement.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year
> get a
> > > > cvar
> > > > >>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss
> > > > appears?
> > > > >>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything
> > > > because
> > > > >>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If
> > the
> > > > boss
> > > > >>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would
> > made
> > > > the
> > > > >>> cvar obsolete.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be
> > able
> > > > to
> > > > >>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where
> > trying
> > > > to get
> > > > >>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making
> > it
> > > > >>> impossible.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks for consideration.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -ics
> > > > >>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[Kyle Sanderson]

> I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam| update...
If you can't build accurate cubemaps without significant effort, and the
Hammer editor display regressed to some strange black state. I'd hazard a
guess to say they're not well made, or they've put a significant amount of
extra time into finding hacks to glue it all back manually. Both are
likely, and completely possible. I know a few CS:S mappers have a VM that
hasn't been updated for this very reason.

I never said it wasn't possible to do it with the new tools that are full
of regressions. However, this is still the primary reason why I stopped
making my map at alpha3. Someone at Valve saved the world from an
abomination.

> Is this what you mean them being broken?
The buildcubemaps concmd hasn't functioned properly since Steam| shipped.
They're not included in the BSP, or they have the wrong name in the BSP. I
think someone attempted a fix early on as the bug changed (maybe I'm just
scrambled)? Cubemaps display fine in existing maps, which is probably why
no one at Valve cares. This is an end of product bug, not really a "oh hey
let's build our cube maps now!" kind of thing, which is probably why a lot
of people aren't running into it. There's still a significant chunk,
though.

Those who had the misfortune of updating now don't use a legitimate copy of
the game to map.
Kyle.


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Ross Bemrose  wrote:

> I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam| update...
> are you really saying they all pirated an older version of the game?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Kyle Sanderson  >wrote:
>
> > Not to be that guy, but the bug tracker is largely dead for already
> ported
> > games. Alfred seems to be the only one watching now. You still can't
> > publish a map since Steam| shipped. Cubemaps and parts of hammer are
> still
> > largely broken. Besides pirating an old version of the game, you're out
> of
> > luck for a once smooth(er) experience as a mapper.
> >
> > Kyle.
> > On 2013-10-10 2:02 AM, "Rudy Bleeker"  wrote:
> >
> > > Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track all
> > > issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
> > > announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the
> > games
> > > for us server maintainers.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:
> > >
> > > > What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a
> forum
> > > > thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I
> respect
> > > > your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this
> > > issue.
> > > >
> > > > -ics
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carl kirjoitti:
> > > >
> > > >  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to play
> > the
> > > >> game.
> > > >>
> > > >> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work
> together,
> > > >> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
> > > >> achievement.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get a
> > > cvar
> > > >>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss
> > > appears?
> > > >>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything
> > > because
> > > >>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If
> the
> > > boss
> > > >>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would
> made
> > > the
> > > >>> cvar obsolete.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be
> able
> > > to
> > > >>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where
> trying
> > > to get
> > > >>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making
> it
> > > >>> impossible.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for consideration.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -ics
> > > >>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[ics]

I've done 2 maps for TF2 and i can say Hammer works. It still does not 
behave as smooth as it did before and is unstable for me, especially 
when editing model properties or vertexing brushes or editing 
displacements. And yes, i do start it from the games bin folder. I'm not 
sure many people even know hammer should be started from there since a 
lot of people complain about how laggy hammer is around forums and such. 
They start it from old Source SDK which is broken badly.


I'm curious how cubemaps are broken? I seem to not see anymore 
checkerboard along the maps and mat_specular seems to be 0 when i start 
the game anyway. It used to be always 1. Is this what you mean them 
being broken? No reflections on the maps that much anymore or what?


-ics

Ross Bemrose kirjoitti:

One other thing... some of Valve's tools act oddly if you have a certain
environment variable set.  Unfortunately, I'm not at a computer with one of
the SteamPipe games installed to tell you which environment variable it
is... although I think it was something like VGAME


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:


hmm, you need to install it, and then find it in the GAME folder, not in
the old location.

might need to edit a .ini file for having the correct game or w.e. But
seen new maps appear anyways... maybe you should ask a actual mapper.




On Thursday, 10 October 2013, 16:30, Ross Bemrose 
wrote:

I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam| update...

are you really saying they all pirated an older version of the game?


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Kyle Sanderson 
Not to be that guy, but the bug tracker is largely dead for already

ported

games. Alfred seems to be the only one watching now. You still can't
publish a map since Steam| shipped. Cubemaps and parts of hammer are

still

largely broken. Besides pirating an old version of the game, you're out

of

luck for a once smooth(er) experience as a mapper.

Kyle.
On 2013-10-10 2:02 AM, "Rudy Bleeker"  wrote:


Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track

all

issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the

games

for us server maintainers.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:


What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a

forum

thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I

respect

your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this

issue.

-ics


Carl kirjoitti:

  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to

play

the

game.

Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work

together,

then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
achievement.

On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:


Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get

a

cvar

option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss

appears?

If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything

because

there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If

the

boss

is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would

made

the

cvar obsolete.

I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be

able

to

kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where

trying

to get

merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making

it

impossible.

Thanks for consideration.

-ics

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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[Ross Bemrose]

One other thing... some of Valve's tools act oddly if you have a certain
environment variable set.  Unfortunately, I'm not at a computer with one of
the SteamPipe games installed to tell you which environment variable it
is... although I think it was something like VGAME


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:

> hmm, you need to install it, and then find it in the GAME folder, not in
> the old location.
>
> might need to edit a .ini file for having the correct game or w.e. But
> seen new maps appear anyways... maybe you should ask a actual mapper.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 10 October 2013, 16:30, Ross Bemrose 
> wrote:
>
> I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam| update...
> >are you really saying they all pirated an older version of the game?
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Kyle Sanderson  >wrote:
> >
> >> Not to be that guy, but the bug tracker is largely dead for already
> ported
> >> games. Alfred seems to be the only one watching now. You still can't
> >> publish a map since Steam| shipped. Cubemaps and parts of hammer are
> still
> >> largely broken. Besides pirating an old version of the game, you're out
> of
> >> luck for a once smooth(er) experience as a mapper.
> >>
> >> Kyle.
> >> On 2013-10-10 2:02 AM, "Rudy Bleeker"  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track
> all
> >> > issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
> >> > announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the
> >> games
> >> > for us server maintainers.
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a
> forum
> >> > > thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I
> respect
> >> > > your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this
> >> > issue.
> >> > >
> >> > > -ics
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Carl kirjoitti:
> >> > >
> >> > >  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to
> play
> >> the
> >> > >> game.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work
> together,
> >> > >> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
> >> > >> achievement.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get
> a
> >> > cvar
> >> > >>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss
> >> > appears?
> >> > >>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything
> >> > because
> >> > >>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If
> the
> >> > boss
> >> > >>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would
> made
> >> > the
> >> > >>> cvar obsolete.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be
> able
> >> > to
> >> > >>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where
> trying
> >> > to get
> >> > >>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making
> it
> >> > >>> impossible.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Thanks for consideration.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> -ics
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> __**_
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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[Mart-Jan Reeuwijk]

hmm, you need to install it, and then find it in the GAME folder, not in the 
old location.

might need to edit a .ini file for having the correct game or w.e. But seen new 
maps appear anyways... maybe you should ask a actual mapper.




On Thursday, 10 October 2013, 16:30, Ross Bemrose  wrote:
 
I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam| update...
>are you really saying they all pirated an older version of the game?
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
>
>> Not to be that guy, but the bug tracker is largely dead for already ported
>> games. Alfred seems to be the only one watching now. You still can't
>> publish a map since Steam| shipped. Cubemaps and parts of hammer are still
>> largely broken. Besides pirating an old version of the game, you're out of
>> luck for a once smooth(er) experience as a mapper.
>>
>> Kyle.
>> On 2013-10-10 2:02 AM, "Rudy Bleeker"  wrote:
>>
>> > Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track all
>> > issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
>> > announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the
>> games
>> > for us server maintainers.
>> >
>> > https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:
>> >
>> > > What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a forum
>> > > thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I respect
>> > > your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this
>> > issue.
>> > >
>> > > -ics
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Carl kirjoitti:
>> > >
>> > >  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to play
>> the
>> > >> game.
>> > >>
>> > >> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work together,
>> > >> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
>> > >> achievement.
>> > >>
>> > >> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get a
>> > cvar
>> > >>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss
>> > appears?
>> > >>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything
>> > because
>> > >>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If the
>> > boss
>> > >>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would made
>> > the
>> > >>> cvar obsolete.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be able
>> > to
>> > >>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where trying
>> > to get
>> > >>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making it
>> > >>> impossible.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks for consideration.
>> > >>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[Ross Bemrose]

I've seen mappers posting new maps all the time since the Steam| update...
are you really saying they all pirated an older version of the game?


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

> Not to be that guy, but the bug tracker is largely dead for already ported
> games. Alfred seems to be the only one watching now. You still can't
> publish a map since Steam| shipped. Cubemaps and parts of hammer are still
> largely broken. Besides pirating an old version of the game, you're out of
> luck for a once smooth(er) experience as a mapper.
>
> Kyle.
> On 2013-10-10 2:02 AM, "Rudy Bleeker"  wrote:
>
> > Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track all
> > issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
> > announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the
> games
> > for us server maintainers.
> >
> > https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:
> >
> > > What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a forum
> > > thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I respect
> > > your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this
> > issue.
> > >
> > > -ics
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl kirjoitti:
> > >
> > >  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to play
> the
> > >> game.
> > >>
> > >> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work together,
> > >> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
> > >> achievement.
> > >>
> > >> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get a
> > cvar
> > >>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss
> > appears?
> > >>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything
> > because
> > >>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If the
> > boss
> > >>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would made
> > the
> > >>> cvar obsolete.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be able
> > to
> > >>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where trying
> > to get
> > >>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making it
> > >>> impossible.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for consideration.
> > >>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[Kyle Sanderson]

Not to be that guy, but the bug tracker is largely dead for already ported
games. Alfred seems to be the only one watching now. You still can't
publish a map since Steam| shipped. Cubemaps and parts of hammer are still
largely broken. Besides pirating an old version of the game, you're out of
luck for a once smooth(er) experience as a mapper.

Kyle.
On 2013-10-10 2:02 AM, "Rudy Bleeker"  wrote:

> Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track all
> issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
> announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the games
> for us server maintainers.
>
> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:
>
> > What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a forum
> > thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I respect
> > your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this
> issue.
> >
> > -ics
> >
> >
> > Carl kirjoitti:
> >
> >  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to play the
> >> game.
> >>
> >> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work together,
> >> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
> >> achievement.
> >>
> >> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
> >>
> >>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get a
> cvar
> >>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss
> appears?
> >>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything
> because
> >>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If the
> boss
> >>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would made
> the
> >>> cvar obsolete.
> >>>
> >>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be able
> to
> >>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where trying
> to get
> >>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making it
> >>> impossible.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for consideration.
> >>>
> >>> -ics
> >>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[dan]

On 10/10/2013 06:37, ics wrote:

What about the people that don't run Sourcemod?


You don't need sourcemod to mod a server

But, it's probably the easiest option if you want the feature and 
sourcemod and the plugin exist.


So, the answer is, I suppose, they'd have to install it.


Do we really need a plugin for everything?


I doubt it. The TF2 pub community these days isn't really capable of killing
other players - at least not deliberately :)

If you get someone on your server that can play a bit you could always 
ban them I suppose.

You won't be kept very busy doing that though.

Although it's fair to say they aren't really capable of (or interested 
in) completing objectives

either. Maybe some shiny item will persuade them to fire roughly in the
right direction. They don't seem that interested in completing map 
objectives any more.


I suppose the actual event itself may bring a few players out of the 
woodwork, but
it'll be more difficult persuading the bunch of young children playing 
spy and sniper that
make up a big %age of the player base these days that they should change 
class to shoot

at the big monster.

A few years ago if they'd had 9 classes (which they do) and a 
significant number
of the player base were playing just 2 of them, Valve would have written 
a blog

about how they'd noticed this and how they went about solving the issue and
encouraging people to play the game yadda yadda yadda.

Now, they're don't seem interested in game development, they just add 
community
created items and blather in the press about how more efficient the 
community

are at creating items than they are. I shan't hold my breath waiting
for this community create a decent game though. There is reason to
rent an office and fill it with snacks and it's not for daft ideas
like "trading cards"

Who is going to give us something worth playing on steamos if
your latest ideas have been creating a crate and a key
and getting kids to gamble £2 to see what's inside it - amazing gameplay
there.  Or, the best one yet, giving them a jpeg image of a game character
after 20 minutes of idling in a game and letting them sell it for 3p
steam wallet credit. This is what you need the hyper pan galactic "T" people
your handbook goes on about to come up with and implement?

In amongst drinking the kool aid and counting the money, they've
apparently forgotten that TF2 is supposed to be a game.

No doubt there's a plugin to help with this as well. Albeit it'll
probably hide the problem rather than tackling it.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[ics]

This list isn't just for announcements. This is for server operators to 
talk and exchance ideas. I thought this is also a great way to make a 
request as a server operator since many people wished it last year and 
year before that.


-ics

Erik-jan Riemers kirjoitti:

I have to agree with ics. Regardless if it has to go to github. A mention
here doesn't hurt anyone. (add an option to turn the thriller taunt off too
and yes there is a plugin for that too)


2013/10/10 Rudy Bleeker 


Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track all
issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the games
for us server maintainers.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:


What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a forum
thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I respect
your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this

issue.

-ics


Carl kirjoitti:

  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to play the

game.

Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work together,
then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
achievement.

On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:


Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get a

cvar

option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss

appears?

If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything

because

there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If the

boss

is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would made

the

cvar obsolete.

I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be able

to

kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where trying

to get

merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making it
impossible.

Thanks for consideration.

-ics

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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

[Erik-jan Riemers]

I have to agree with ics. Regardless if it has to go to github. A mention
here doesn't hurt anyone. (add an option to turn the thriller taunt off too
and yes there is a plugin for that too)


2013/10/10 Rudy Bleeker 

> Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track all
> issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
> announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the games
> for us server maintainers.
>
> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:
>
> > What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a forum
> > thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I respect
> > your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this
> issue.
> >
> > -ics
> >
> >
> > Carl kirjoitti:
> >
> >  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to play the
> >> game.
> >>
> >> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work together,
> >> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
> >> achievement.
> >>
> >> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
> >>
> >>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get a
> cvar
> >>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss
> appears?
> >>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything
> because
> >>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If the
> boss
> >>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would made
> the
> >>> cvar obsolete.
> >>>
> >>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be able
> to
> >>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where trying
> to get
> >>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making it
> >>> impossible.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for consideration.
> >>>
> >>> -ics
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Re: [hlds_linux] Now that halloween is coming for TF2

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Feature requests should be done on Valve's github, where they track all
issues and feature requests for their games. This mailinglist is for
announcements from Valve and arguably also for discussions about the games
for us server maintainers.

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On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, ics  wrote:

> What part of option you didn't understand? Let's not make this a forum
> thread. I just submitted a request, you didn't like it, fine. I respect
> your opinion but there is no need for further discussion about this issue.
>
> -ics
>
>
> Carl kirjoitti:
>
>  Killing people on the enemy team is almost the entire reason to play the
>> game.
>>
>> Even so, if during the Halloween event both sides can't work together,
>> then they didn't really display the teamwork to be worthy of the
>> achievement.
>>
>> On 10/9/2013 10:23 PM, ics wrote:
>>
>>> Now that halloween is coming for TF2, can we please this year get a cvar
>>> option to disable killing of the enemy team on a server when boss appears?
>>> If the boss is like merasmus, it's very hard to achieve anything because
>>> there is always one, two or three wiseguys ruining others fun. If the boss
>>> is pumpkinhead, killing should be rather easy anyway so it would made the
>>> cvar obsolete.
>>>
>>> I was asked last year why can't i make it so that others wont be able to
>>> kill you while boss is on since majority of the servers where trying to get
>>> merasmus down level by level and always there was few guys making it
>>> impossible.
>>>
>>> Thanks for consideration.
>>>
>>> -ics
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