[hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread Andre Müller
Hello,
since few days the hldsupdatetool has reached end of life.
I get this messge after trying to update left4dead:

Hello! Unfortunately this tool has reached its end-of-life. For updating
dedicated server installs, you will now need to use SteamCMD.
For more info on SteamCMD, see
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD

I've tried updating with appid 222860 and 510 with anonymous and with an
empty account. This doesn't work with steamcmd. >No subscription

Any tips?

Greetrings
Andre Müller
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread AnAkIn
222860 is L4D2. Do you mean 222840 ?


2014-01-25 Andre Müller 

> Hello,
> since few days the hldsupdatetool has reached end of life.
> I get this messge after trying to update left4dead:
>
> Hello! Unfortunately this tool has reached its end-of-life. For updating
> dedicated server installs, you will now need to use SteamCMD.
> For more info on SteamCMD, see
> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD
>
> I've tried updating with appid 222860 and 510 with anonymous and with an
> empty account. This doesn't work with steamcmd. >No subscription
>
> Any tips?
>
> Greetrings
> Andre Müller
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread Andre Müller
2014-01-25 Andre Müller 

> 222860



Yes, this was my fault. I'm using the steamapi and written my own script to
get with requests the names and ids.
The id 222860 is from the wiki for left4dead2 you're right.

For example:

Name: Left 4 Dead Dedicated Server AppId: 510
Name: Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated ServerAppId: 540
Name: Left 4 Dead 2 Dedicated Server   AppId: 560
Name: Left 4 Dead 2 Dedicated Server   AppId: 222860
Name: Left 4 Dead 2 Beta - Win32 Dedicated Server  AppId: 227040
Name: Left 4 Dead 2 Beta - Linux Dedicated Server  AppId: 227050

There is not entry for left4dead dedicated server with this appid. I will
try it out with 222840.
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread Andre Müller
2014-01-25 Andre Müller 

> 222840



Nope, 222840 doesn't work:

Logging in user 'sourceserver_info1' to Steam Public...Success.
ERROR! Failed to install app '222840' (No subscription)


and:

Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...Success.
ERROR! Failed to install app '222840' (No subscription)


BTW: From where did you get this application number. It's not listed there:
http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetAppList/v0001/
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread ics

Left 4 Dead never got moved to SteamCMD. Valve made an error in that.

-ics

Andre Müller kirjoitti:

2014-01-25 Andre Müller 


222840



Nope, 222840 doesn't work:

Logging in user 'sourceserver_info1' to Steam Public...Success.
ERROR! Failed to install app '222840' (No subscription)


and:

Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...Success.
ERROR! Failed to install app '222840' (No subscription)


BTW: From where did you get this application number. It's not listed there:
http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetAppList/v0001/
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread Andre Müller
OK, I will tell this my friend. He has a hosting company, so he have to
stop the Left4dead offer.
Not my problem...

2014-01-25 ics 

> Left 4 Dead never got moved to SteamCMD. Valve made an error in that.
>
> -ics
>
> Andre Müller kirjoitti:
>
>> 2014-01-25 Andre Müller 
>>
>>  222840
>>>
>>
>>
>> Nope, 222840 doesn't work:
>>
>> Logging in user 'sourceserver_info1' to Steam Public...Success.
>> ERROR! Failed to install app '222840' (No subscription)
>>
>>
>> and:
>>
>> Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...Success.
>> ERROR! Failed to install app '222840' (No subscription)
>>
>>
>> BTW: From where did you get this application number. It's not listed
>> there:
>> http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetAppList/v0001/
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread Ross Bemrose
I reported this bug both here and on the source-1-games bug tracker 
(https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/1554) and, as 
far as I can tell, nothing has been done about it. L4D1 Linux servers 
are effectively dead at this point.


On 1/25/2014 3:38 PM, Andre Müller wrote:

Hello,
since few days the hldsupdatetool has reached end of life.
I get this messge after trying to update left4dead:

Hello! Unfortunately this tool has reached its end-of-life. For updating
dedicated server installs, you will now need to use SteamCMD.
For more info on SteamCMD, see
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD

I've tried updating with appid 222860 and 510 with anonymous and with an
empty account. This doesn't work with steamcmd. >No subscription

Any tips?

Greetrings
Andre Müller
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fletcher - I'm Calling you Out On This (Enough is Enough)

2014-01-25 Thread dan

On 25/01/2014 02:45, Bottiger wrote:

If community servers did not provide any extra benefit, Valve servers would
be at least as full as the top community servers but they were not. TF2
ranking websites would be filled with Valve servers like CS:GO but they
were not. Therefore proving that community servers provide substantial
value. Here are some examples:


Well, no, people using a server doesn't mean they are making any 
statement about

that server providing extra benefits over another one.

e.g lots of people complain about the level of play on Valve servers, this
suggests some of them at least have played on Valve servers.

Equally, others complain about adverts, bots, certain plugins,
certain rules etc etc which suggests they've played
on servers that have these things.

Being on a server isn't a vote for that server nor
can you put words in the mouths of those players about
what they think of it.

Besides, as I said, if you cannot compete with Valve servers as they are
today, you can't compete with anyone.

Writing a list saying why your servers are better - whether I agree with 
each entry or not is moot,

if you agree with your list what are you so worried about?

You can't have it both ways, either your servers are so much better and 
they are
more full than Valve's or they aren't and boo hoo hoo big bad Valve are 
stealing

all your players. Both cannot be true.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Fletcher - I'm Calling you Out On This (Enough is Enough)

2014-01-25 Thread dan

On 25/01/2014 02:45, Bottiger wrote:

Not sure what this is supposed to mean


You rather asinine tags
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fletcher - I'm Calling you Out On This (Enough is Enough)

2014-01-25 Thread Bottiger
> You rather asinine tags

We don't have any tags like that. Rather typical of you to make false
claims, unfortunately some here probably take your asinine postings
seriously.

> You can't have it both ways, either your servers are so much better and
they are more full than Valve's or they aren't and boo hoo hoo big bad
Valve are stealing all your players. Both cannot be true.

This was already explained as usual.

This change does not allow community servers to fairly compete with Valve
servers when they get all the new players. TF2 is the kind of game that
requires more players because the bots are so poor. All the improvements
you can possibly make to vanilla TF2 cannot compete with being cut off from
99% of new players.

For those of you who don't get it, this is situation is equivalent to
Microsoft forcing computer sellers and Apple to only bundle IE. For an
entire decade most people used IE even though there were better browsers
out there because it was impossible to compete with IE being the default
option everywhere no matter how good your features are.

The same thing is happening to TF2.





On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:40 PM, dan  wrote:

> On 25/01/2014 02:45, Bottiger wrote:
>
>> Not sure what this is supposed to mean
>>
>
> You rather asinine tags
>
> --
> Dan
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fletcher - I'm Calling you Out On This (Enough is Enough)

2014-01-25 Thread Doctor McKay
If you're going to accuse someone, at least accuse the right person. Lotus
is the community that has the "LIVE NUDES!" tag not, Skial. At the same
time, why on Earth do you care? Are they stealing traffic from your own
live nude servers?

Joining *and continuing to play on* a server is a vote for that server. By
increasing the server's player count, you are encouraging other users to
join the server, either through Quickplay or through the server browser.

> You can't have it both ways, either your servers are so much better and
they are more full than Valve's or they aren't and boo hoo hoo big bad
Valve are stealing
all your players. Both cannot be true.

You clearly don't understand how a default works. As Bottiger said, this is
the same thing that happened with IE in the earlier days of the Web. If a
player will end up on a Valve server with default settings (and let's face
it, how many people customize their settings, at least in the first 50
hours of gameplay?), then Valve is stealing traffic from all community
servers, regardless of how much better or worse the community servers are.


Dr. McKay
www.doctormckay.com


On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:40 PM, dan  wrote:

> On 25/01/2014 02:45, Bottiger wrote:
>
>> Not sure what this is supposed to mean
>>
>
> You rather asinine tags
>
> --
> Dan
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread Ook

So is L4D1 also at end of life?


On 01/25/2014 02:23 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote:
I reported this bug both here and on the source-1-games bug tracker 
(https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/1554) and, as 
far as I can tell, nothing has been done about it. L4D1 Linux servers 
are effectively dead at this point.


On 1/25/2014 3:38 PM, Andre Müller wrote:

Hello,
since few days the hldsupdatetool has reached end of life.
I get this messge after trying to update left4dead:

Hello! Unfortunately this tool has reached its end-of-life. For updating
dedicated server installs, you will now need to use SteamCMD.
For more info on SteamCMD, see
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD

I've tried updating with appid 222860 and 510 with anonymous and with an
empty account. This doesn't work with steamcmd. >No subscription

Any tips?

Greetrings
Andre Müller
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Re: [hlds_linux] hldupdatetool end-of-life and left4dead1

2014-01-25 Thread Rudy Bleeker
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Ook  wrote:
> So is L4D1 also at end of life?

I hate to say "yes" to this but I think it's a safe bet. Even though
Valve have never officially declared Left 4 Dead end of life, I think
the statement of moving all of it's content to L4D2 and updating that
regularly (including Linux suppose) speaks volumes. I can't remember
the last time I've seen a L4D1 client update, so I guess if you'd like
to host a server any recent copy of the Left 4 Dead Dedicated Server
from the hldsupdate tool would still work.



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