Re: [hlds_linux] IPv6 on SRCDS

2015-01-17 Thread dan

On 17/01/2015 22:28, Erik-jan Riemers wrote:

If we all think like that, we wont have ipv6 in 10 years and it will be too
late. I rather have it *now* and support both so the change can be done in
steps or something like that.


It's probably a non issue anyway.

It's more likely that the average buffoon will get, effectively,
one /48 block from his isp. Or maybe a /56 block.

Unlike IPv4,  that will give him bazillions of addresses to assign to his
toaster, phone et al. IIRC it gives your buffoon significantly more 
address space than ipv4 has

in total.

i.e he won't need NAT any more, but you'd be able to ban his entire 
range trivially. Just with a single

/48 or /56 entry in your firewall.

I doubt that will stop everyone of course. proxies,  changing ISP, 
changing hardware etc etc etc could all get
around an ip ban, but it's not like the extra address space of ipv6 is 
making the problem any worse than now, and,
I think it would make it more difficult for some because a lot of people 
get dynamic ip addresses, which

would be completely unnecessary.

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Re: [hlds_linux] IPv6 on SRCDS

2015-01-17 Thread Erik-jan Riemers
If we all think like that, we wont have ipv6 in 10 years and it will be too
late. I rather have it *now* and support both so the change can be done in
steps or something like that.

2015-01-17 22:59 GMT+01:00 Robert Paulson :

> I for one hope they don't add IPV6 any time soon.
>
> It is already enough of a hassle to ban all these F2P hackers and it will
> be 10 times worse when everyone has hundreds of ips.
>
> And plugins and databases would need to be upgraded as well.
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:14 AM, ics  wrote:
>
> > This has been suggested on this list time to time for the past 4-5 years.
> > No answer has been ever given to one way or the other.
> >
> > -ics
> >
> > Giovanni Harting kirjoitti:
> >
> >  I would guess the new source 2 supports IPv6, everything else would be
> >> terrifying.
> >>
> >> 2015-01-17 16:32 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kelker :
> >>
> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>
> >>> Hey there,
> >>>
> >>> I've searched around the web
> >>> but didn't find any current news about this:
> >>>
> >>> How about IPv6 on Source dedicated Servers?
> >>> There were some posts back in 2013 that it isn't possible - yet.
> >>>
> >>> But meanwhile IPv6 deployment has made huge steps and here in Germany
> >>> we already have ISPs that only serve native v6 adresses to their
> >>> customers and are doing carrier grade NAT for the remaining IPv4-only
> >>> services (which has, depending on the load of their core routers, a
> >>> horrible performance at some times).
> >>>
> >>> So is there any way now to bind srcds servers to a native v6 or at
> >>> least some word about the progress of making it compatible (maybe even
> >>> a word from a developer here :-) )?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance an best regards!
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>> PS: please don't slap me if I've missed something about that topic.
> >>> Haven't been around quite a long time but tried my best to search the
> >>> forums first.
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Re: [hlds_linux] IPv6 on SRCDS

2015-01-17 Thread Robert Paulson
I for one hope they don't add IPV6 any time soon.

It is already enough of a hassle to ban all these F2P hackers and it will
be 10 times worse when everyone has hundreds of ips.

And plugins and databases would need to be upgraded as well.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:14 AM, ics  wrote:

> This has been suggested on this list time to time for the past 4-5 years.
> No answer has been ever given to one way or the other.
>
> -ics
>
> Giovanni Harting kirjoitti:
>
>  I would guess the new source 2 supports IPv6, everything else would be
>> terrifying.
>>
>> 2015-01-17 16:32 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kelker :
>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Hey there,
>>>
>>> I've searched around the web
>>> but didn't find any current news about this:
>>>
>>> How about IPv6 on Source dedicated Servers?
>>> There were some posts back in 2013 that it isn't possible - yet.
>>>
>>> But meanwhile IPv6 deployment has made huge steps and here in Germany
>>> we already have ISPs that only serve native v6 adresses to their
>>> customers and are doing carrier grade NAT for the remaining IPv4-only
>>> services (which has, depending on the load of their core routers, a
>>> horrible performance at some times).
>>>
>>> So is there any way now to bind srcds servers to a native v6 or at
>>> least some word about the progress of making it compatible (maybe even
>>> a word from a developer here :-) )?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance an best regards!
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> PS: please don't slap me if I've missed something about that topic.
>>> Haven't been around quite a long time but tried my best to search the
>>> forums first.
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: [hlds_linux] IPv6 on SRCDS

2015-01-17 Thread ics
This has been suggested on this list time to time for the past 4-5 
years. No answer has been ever given to one way or the other.


-ics

Giovanni Harting kirjoitti:

I would guess the new source 2 supports IPv6, everything else would be
terrifying.

2015-01-17 16:32 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kelker :

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hey there,

I've searched around the web
but didn't find any current news about this:

How about IPv6 on Source dedicated Servers?
There were some posts back in 2013 that it isn't possible - yet.

But meanwhile IPv6 deployment has made huge steps and here in Germany
we already have ISPs that only serve native v6 adresses to their
customers and are doing carrier grade NAT for the remaining IPv4-only
services (which has, depending on the load of their core routers, a
horrible performance at some times).

So is there any way now to bind srcds servers to a native v6 or at
least some word about the progress of making it compatible (maybe even
a word from a developer here :-) )?

Thanks in advance an best regards!
Kevin

PS: please don't slap me if I've missed something about that topic.
Haven't been around quite a long time but tried my best to search the
forums first.
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Re: [hlds_linux] IPv6 on SRCDS

2015-01-17 Thread Giovanni Harting
I would guess the new source 2 supports IPv6, everything else would be
terrifying.

2015-01-17 16:32 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kelker :
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hey there,
>
> I've searched around the web
> but didn't find any current news about this:
>
> How about IPv6 on Source dedicated Servers?
> There were some posts back in 2013 that it isn't possible - yet.
>
> But meanwhile IPv6 deployment has made huge steps and here in Germany
> we already have ISPs that only serve native v6 adresses to their
> customers and are doing carrier grade NAT for the remaining IPv4-only
> services (which has, depending on the load of their core routers, a
> horrible performance at some times).
>
> So is there any way now to bind srcds servers to a native v6 or at
> least some word about the progress of making it compatible (maybe even
> a word from a developer here :-) )?
>
> Thanks in advance an best regards!
> Kevin
>
> PS: please don't slap me if I've missed something about that topic.
> Haven't been around quite a long time but tried my best to search the
> forums first.
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[hlds_linux] IPv6 on SRCDS

2015-01-17 Thread Kevin Kelker
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Hash: SHA1

Hey there,

I've searched around the web
but didn't find any current news about this:

How about IPv6 on Source dedicated Servers?
There were some posts back in 2013 that it isn't possible - yet.

But meanwhile IPv6 deployment has made huge steps and here in Germany
we already have ISPs that only serve native v6 adresses to their
customers and are doing carrier grade NAT for the remaining IPv4-only
services (which has, depending on the load of their core routers, a
horrible performance at some times).

So is there any way now to bind srcds servers to a native v6 or at
least some word about the progress of making it compatible (maybe even
a word from a developer here :-) )?

Thanks in advance an best regards!
Kevin

PS: please don't slap me if I've missed something about that topic.
Haven't been around quite a long time but tried my best to search the
forums first.
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