[hlds_linux] Consoles playing with PCs in TF2

[Ryan Schremp]

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Again, I pose the question now that the game is released. Are Xbox 360s
using the same dedicated servers for gameplay as PCs? I found an interview
with Doug on IGN that suggests that cross-platform playing was done, but I
still don't know if that's just for LAN play, or if they're using our
servers.
>From the interview:
*Robin Walker*: So the Xbox one, we have people in on Xboxes, while you were
playing [referring to IGN] there's people playing on Xbox 360s.

*IGN: In that play session we just did? *

*Doug Lombardi*: Yeah there's always at least one guy, in there, that's an
Xbox 360 guy.

*IGN: So you're actually playing now on Xbox 360s connected to PCs? *

*Doug Lombardi*: Technically it's done.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Variations On The Install Path TF2

[Ryan Schremp]

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My main point is, if you're going to ask for help, try not to be an ass. I
don't have anything to tell you because mine installed flawlessly and
everything is up and running with no problems whatsoever, but if someone
does have something that can help you, they're far less inclined to do so
when you act like a prick.

On 9/23/07, tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Whether or not you believe my demeanor involves too much "whining" doesn't
> negate the fact that the installer itself cannot make up it's mind as to
> where it should install the server.  As for whining too much, you really
> need a reality check. If you can point out how I "whine too much" to the
> mailing list, please, do so. Unlike your extremely helpful response, I
> actually interject in the mailing list when I have time to help out,
> something I've yet to see come out of you aside from this beauty of a
> post.
> I actually pointed out the problems thus far, and considering the flood of
> messages on the mailing list since release with people having issues, I
> know
> I'm not the only one.
>
> And no, actually, they are not giving me the ability to host anything at
> this point, as you can see by my initial email, try as I might to get the
> actual program installed. Try taking notes while reading. They've admitted
> the installer was having issues with connection resets and they would
> "look
> at it tomorrow" the day it was released, which still hasn't happened, at
> least not that I'm aware of. Even when steam does install to the correct
> folders, it still resets between content installations.
>
> Chances are you've just started hosting and really have no idea what
> you're
> talking about, so I'll let your ignorant comments slide. The fact that
> they
> had a release date set for this before they even had a working Linux
> server
> platform, while bad, is only worsened by the fact that they couldn't reach
> the deadline. I could even let that slide, if I was at least able to get a
> working set of tf2 server files. Shit, I'll take a tarball of the entire
> installation of someone mirrors it. I assume VALVe does all of their
> testing
> on Windows only, then converts to Linux as needed?
>
> Either way, I know I'm not the only person who's had enough broken Linux
> updates to last a lifetime. Yours work for you? Great! I can't wait until
> mine does. But unless you have something helpful to solve the problem or
> want to elaborate more in a helpful manner, keep your mouth shut.
>
>
> On 9/23/07, Ryan Schremp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > That's funny. My install went fine, and I'm up and running perfectly. My
> > retort isn't that it's a beta, it's that you whine too much.
> > Don't ask for help and bitch at the company that's giving you the
> ability
> > to
> > run your server for what's already a very popular game.
> > Whine, whine, bitch moan. That'll get you tons of help, I'm sure.
> >
> > On 9/23/07, tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Okay, I'm getting more and more fed up with not only the fouled up
> > > installs
> > > (files missing, some installing incorrectly), but the constant
> > connection
> > > resets while attempting to install TF2. I've been as diplomatic as
> > > possible,
> > > but now, the steam update tool is installing TF2 into a different
> > install
> > > path on and off?
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/setup $ ./update
> > > Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > > Updating Installation
> > > No installation record found at .
> > > No installation record found at .
> > > No installation record found at .
> > > No installation record found at .
> > > No installation record found at .
> > > No installation record found at .
> > > Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Content' version 5
> > >
> > > 0.00%   .\tf\bin\server.dll
> > >
> > > Okay, as you can see, that's the beginning of the install. Notice all
> of
> > > the
> > > no record found at .'s? This is a blank folder installing a new
> install
> > of
> > > tf2, running the command "./steam -command update 

Re: [hlds_linux] Variations On The Install Path TF2

[Ryan Schremp]

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That's funny. My install went fine, and I'm up and running perfectly. My
retort isn't that it's a beta, it's that you whine too much.
Don't ask for help and bitch at the company that's giving you the ability to
run your server for what's already a very popular game.
Whine, whine, bitch moan. That'll get you tons of help, I'm sure.

On 9/23/07, tsuehpsyde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Okay, I'm getting more and more fed up with not only the fouled up
> installs
> (files missing, some installing incorrectly), but the constant connection
> resets while attempting to install TF2. I've been as diplomatic as
> possible,
> but now, the steam update tool is installing TF2 into a different install
> path on and off?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/setup $ ./update
> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> Updating Installation
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at .
> Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Content' version 5
>
> 0.00%   .\tf\bin\server.dll
>
> Okay, as you can see, that's the beginning of the install. Notice all of
> the
> no record found at .'s? This is a blank folder installing a new install of
> tf2, running the command "./steam -command update -game "tf" -dir ." which
> should install our game. However, sometimes I get what you see above,
> other
> times I get half "No record at ." and half "No record found at orangebox".
> Example:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/setup$ ./update
> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> Updating Installation
> No installation record found at ./orangebox
> No installation record found at ./orangebox
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at .
> No installation record found at ./orangebox
> Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Content' version 5
>
> 0.00%   ./orangebox\tf\bin\server.dll
>
> You cannot be serious in that I am getting different paths to install the
> files when trying to install tf2 multiple times. If it's not one thing,
> it's
> another.
>
> Yes I know it's a beta, so if you're going to retort that this is a beta,
> don't. This is a public beta, and if it wasn't ready for prime-time beta
> testing, it shouldn't have been released. I've just had it up to here with
> Linux being the bastard child of the dedicated servers with VALVe, and the
> fact that I purchased a server specifically to host this game, and I
> *can't
> even install the damn files to do so*, I've about reached my limit. I've
> hosted Source for coming up on three years, and I've dealt with some wacky
> stuff over the years (like updates completely breaking Linux, no plugins
> involved), but this takes the cake.
>
> Can you throw the Linux admins a bone, VALVe? Honestly.
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[hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 release

[Ryan Schremp]

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I was wondering if all the systems this game is releasing on are going to
use the same servers? I noticed in the config files for the tf2 there were
some files referencing Xbox 360 gamepad settings.
Anyone know?
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Re: [hlds_linux] Best admin mod for a new server admin.

[Ryan Schremp]

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I just downloaded that and have been playing around with it. It seems pretty
nice, but is there a way to send commands from HLSW to the console?

Wait a sec...is that what "rcon" means? Remote Console?
Man, I feel so daft.

On 9/21/07, Miano, Steven M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I prefer to run my servers pure and without any mods if possible.
>
> For administering the servers themselves (I'm up over 10 dedicated now), I
> use HLSW and ask that my admins do that same. ; )
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Schremp
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:56 AM
> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds_linux] Best admin mod for a new server admin.
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> I just started my dedicated server up with the release of the TF2
> dedicated
> server. I see that there are a handful of admin mods for managing a server
> available. Anyone have any recommendations as to which is the best? Most
> powerful?
> Thanks in advance.
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[hlds_linux] Best admin mod for a new server admin.

[Ryan Schremp]

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I just started my dedicated server up with the release of the TF2 dedicated
server. I see that there are a handful of admin mods for managing a server
available. Anyone have any recommendations as to which is the best? Most
powerful?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Average monthly bandwidth usage.

[Ryan Schremp]

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Ok, let's see. That's
200 * 60 = 12000k/min / 1024 = 11.72MB/min * 60 = 703.13MB/hr * 24 =
16,875MB/day * 30 = 506,250MB/month / 1024 = 494.38GB/month
70 * 60 = 4200k/min / 1024 = 4.1MB/min * 60 = 246.1MB/hr * 24 = 5,906MB/day
* 30 = 177,187.5MB/month / 1024 = 173GB/month
667.38GB/month total.

If I'm doing the math right here, I should be in the clear with 2TB/month of
allotted monthly bandwidth.

On 9/21/07, Svensk Ljud & Ljus Produktion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> At that load - 200kBps out, 70kBps in.
>
> that is how much its sending / reciving per second.
>
> start counting.
>
> Peter
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Schremp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:04 PM
> Subject: [hlds_linux] Average monthly bandwidth usage.
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> > Hey, I've never run a dedicated server before, but just set one up for
> > TF2.
> > I was wondering what the average bandwith usage I can expect to see on a
> > monthly basis for a server that stays pretty full pretty consistently at
> a
> > player cap of 24.
> > Thanks.
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[hlds_linux] Average monthly bandwidth usage.

[Ryan Schremp]

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Hey, I've never run a dedicated server before, but just set one up for TF2.
I was wondering what the average bandwith usage I can expect to see on a
monthly basis for a server that stays pretty full pretty consistently at a
player cap of 24.
Thanks.
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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 server logs

[Ryan Schremp]

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Why can't you run Linux dedicated machines? The Linux server binaries came
out yesterday.

On 9/21/07, Bart Seghers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Dit is een meerdelig bericht met een MIME-indeling.
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> Hi,
>
> Because of the fact we currently run Linux dedicated machines we can't
> host
> a TF2 server. However I want to prepare our HLStats so they can show TF2
> statistics, but in order to do so I need to get hold of some server logs
> of
> a TF2 server when they're were players so I can see all the names of the
> actions and stuff. Could anyone be so kind to send me some logs?
> Preferably
> when there were some players on and some action was going on J
>
>
>
> With Kind Regards,
>
> Bart Seghers
>
>
>
> > Z-Spot.be | Brain
>
> 7 Assistant Server Admin
>
> :   www.z-spot.be
>
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Server Updated/Linux Server available

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Jason, to you and Alfred, and everyone else involved in getting this out...
I love you.
Seriously.

On 9/20/07, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Updates to the Team Fortress 2 dedicated server have been released.  And
> the Linux version of the server is now available :)  Run "hldsupdatetool
> -command update -game tf" to receive those updates.  The specific
> changes include:
>
> - Linux Dedicated Server beta release
> - Fixed not being able to issue rcon commands with empty strings like:
> rcon sv_password
> - Exploit fix related to "join_team"
>
> Jason
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mike, anythin new on the Linux bins?

[Ryan Schremp]

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Seconded. I am one of the many many people that are anxiously waiting for
the release.

On 9/20/07, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hiya,
>
> Any news or ETA on the Linux bins?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Saint K.
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