--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
steam is free. they said that already
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Respect? To valve? Do they show respect to the community? Do
they fix bugs, that the beta testers discover? Will steam be free in further future
like it has been always told to us?
I think it's time to look for alternatives...
-Original Message-
From: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] After 3 years, I've had enough.
People,
Please show some respect! This is the Hlaf-Life Dedicated
Server mailing
list and not an advertisment list for some other games! Also
keep in mind
that the Half-Life core was build in the 90tees! Almost 10 years old!
Thanks!
Tom
- Original Message -
From: 0x2e
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:58 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] After 3 years, I've had enough.
Subject says it all.
When people ask serious questions of a companies product reguarding
security, and get no reply, there is something wrong with
said company. I
don't buy the idea their network is being rebuilt either. Obviously
something there is still on or this list wouldn't be
running nor would
helpvalve@ work. How hard is it to have Leon H. send an
email from pine?
I fully believe M$ was/still has controlling interest in
valve. If you
don't understand why that is a bad thing, you never will.
From the :
- dick-wagging by Gabe re: DX9 and ATI's Better support vs.
OpenGL and NVIDIA, AMD vs. Intel, etc. Look to the archives to
find the truth.
- their unwillingness to deviate from M$ products (be it mail/web
server used internaly, etc -- Notice I _didn't_ say deviate from
_Windows_ products, nor OS of choice), even if said deviation
would be better.
- _requiring_ content providers to run 2k3 server, but having no
idea why people would be unwilling to help them.
- re-inventing the content distrubution wheel for some
gawdforsaken reason (Sun's Java Webstart vs. M$'s .NET), etc. etc.
Then having no idea why it fell apart.
- Refusing to listen the outcry from a community they supposedly
listen to (re: steam, shields, etc)
- Not only releasing a buggy as hell BETA product despite serious
problems being found BEFORE the release, But, forcing the
world to download said product without having the infrastructure
to back it. Again, with no clue why it failed.
Btw valve, where are your buddies at ATI on this? I see they
have no mirror yet that other company you seem to not like has a
few (Nvidia).
- Refusing to listen again to community suggestions about
possible ways to fix the bandwidth problem (re: .torrent files,
supporting other _established_ mirroring methods like html, rsync,
etc.). M$ way or no way again, Even though it would have
eliminated the problem.
- Total lack of priorities with again, security. It speaks
volumes when major security patches are produced outside of a
company, well before said company releases their own official
patch. Windows and It will be included in the next serice pack,
comes to mind.
My latest question to Valve was not the only security
question that has
went unanswered. A few weeks back I pointed out how the
SteamID, smelled
like a passport ID for example. I have never seen a reply
from valve on
that nor many other concerns. Btw, if you don't know why
passport is BAD,
google it. It has little to do with the fact that M$ runs it.
I could go on but I won't. You guys get the picture heh.
I have removed my CS servers, and replaced them with UT2k3
and Q3A. You
wanna see SWEET games? Play 'em :-) .. Native linux binaries too!
For UT2k3 at least, it's VERY easy to code your own mods.
By mods I don't
mean like CS/DoD-type a deal where it totaly changes the
game (which is
still very easy). I mean admin stuff, changing weapon
skins/power, etc.
Basicaly Metamod, but supported natively! (through UTScript)
Unlike HL where it's a mod to the server that even though
being used on
99.9% of every server out there, Valve refuses to add it
as an official
feature (doesn't come with HLDS). Amazing eh?
Happy trails peeps, been fun.
___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the
list archives,
please visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
archives, please visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
___
To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
-
Do you Yahoo!?
The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product
