[hlds_linux] New server install failing...
Well, after getting a bit of feedback from this list, I decided it was time to clean up my setup into a single directory (and clean up 12+Gb of duplicate files). I started from scratch to make sure everything is clean, so I downloaded hldsupdatetool.bin, extracted it, all good. Now when I try to run ./steam, I get this: $ ./steam Checking bootstrapper version ... And thats where it stops. I don't see any network traffic happening other than clients trying to connect to the stopped servers. Any thoughts on what is going on here? SteamCMD works, but as we know, TF2 is not available via that process yet... -- Steven Haigh Email: net...@crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server install failing...
It's nothing new unfortunately, on every install that has happened to me (for years). I typically ctrl+c and restart it a few times, it should suddenly work. Thanks, Kyle. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Steven Haigh net...@crc.id.au wrote: Well, after getting a bit of feedback from this list, I decided it was time to clean up my setup into a single directory (and clean up 12+Gb of duplicate files). I started from scratch to make sure everything is clean, so I downloaded hldsupdatetool.bin, extracted it, all good. Now when I try to run ./steam, I get this: $ ./steam Checking bootstrapper version ... And thats where it stops. I don't see any network traffic happening other than clients trying to connect to the stopped servers. Any thoughts on what is going on here? SteamCMD works, but as we know, TF2 is not available via that process yet... -- Steven Haigh Email: net...@crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299 __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server install failing...
On 21/02/2013 11:02 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote: It's nothing new unfortunately, on every install that has happened to me (for years). I typically ctrl+c and restart it a few times, it should suddenly work. Urgh, great. I can see yet another afternoon wasted on this thing... Sometimes I wonder why I bother :( -- Steven Haigh Email: net...@crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server install failing...
Let it sit there. You will run it 3 times before it goes. The first run it hangs like crazy second time it updates third out installs server SavSin On Feb 20, 2013 3:53 PM, Steven Haigh net...@crc.id.au wrote: Well, after getting a bit of feedback from this list, I decided it was time to clean up my setup into a single directory (and clean up 12+Gb of duplicate files). I started from scratch to make sure everything is clean, so I downloaded hldsupdatetool.bin, extracted it, all good. Now when I try to run ./steam, I get this: $ ./steam Checking bootstrapper version ... And thats where it stops. I don't see any network traffic happening other than clients trying to connect to the stopped servers. Any thoughts on what is going on here? SteamCMD works, but as we know, TF2 is not available via that process yet... -- Steven Haigh Email: net...@crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299 __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server install failing...
See my message from just a couple of days ago. Same thing happened to me and I got frustrated about it. It took something like 20-30 minutes, but eventually it updated itself. It just takes an unreasonably long time. Why someone at Valve can't tar -czf a newer version (it's from 2005) and save us all a lot of hassle, I don't know. Steven Haigh wrote: Well, after getting a bit of feedback from this list, I decided it was time to clean up my setup into a single directory (and clean up 12+Gb of duplicate files). I started from scratch to make sure everything is clean, so I downloaded hldsupdatetool.bin, extracted it, all good. Now when I try to run ./steam, I get this: $ ./steam Checking bootstrapper version ... And thats where it stops. I don't see any network traffic happening other than clients trying to connect to the stopped servers. Any thoughts on what is going on here? SteamCMD works, but as we know, TF2 is not available via that process yet... -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = je...@opendreams.net # Cell = 1-602-323-7608 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server install failing...
I'd like to thank people on this list for their feedback. I'm now running 2 servers in about 7.5Gb less disk space. I'll be interested to see what happens on the next update :) Thanks again. -- Steven Haigh Email: net...@crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299 On 21/02/2013 11:16 AM, David Fountain wrote: Let it sit there. You will run it 3 times before it goes. The first run it hangs like crazy second time it updates third out installs server SavSin On Feb 20, 2013 3:53 PM, Steven Haigh net...@crc.id.au wrote: Well, after getting a bit of feedback from this list, I decided it was time to clean up my setup into a single directory (and clean up 12+Gb of duplicate files). I started from scratch to make sure everything is clean, so I downloaded hldsupdatetool.bin, extracted it, all good. Now when I try to run ./steam, I get this: $ ./steam Checking bootstrapper version ... And thats where it stops. I don't see any network traffic happening other than clients trying to connect to the stopped servers. Any thoughts on what is going on here? SteamCMD works, but as we know, TF2 is not available via that process yet... -- Steven Haigh Email: net...@crc.id.au Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 Fax: (03) 8338 0299 __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
In addition to what has already been said: Asus, like SuperMicro, makes excellent barebone server hardware these days, but you are going to end up with a motherboard that only takes Xeon processors. I am hosting on an AMD Phenom x6 1055T and an old cheap desktop board. Everything runs great with multiple TF2, CSS, L4D, and other servers. More cores on the cheap. I am being limited by RAM right now because of the old motherboard being DDR2, so I can't tell you what the CPU limitations are, but stacking one fully-loaded 32-player TF2 server per-core leaves plenty of room for stacking a L4D server on top of each. I paid $200 for the CPU, and all the other hardware was trash I had laying around at the time. Saint K. wrote: Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = je...@opendreams.net # Cell = 1-602-323-7608 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
Hi Saint, I would highly suggest the E3-1245v2 or E3-1270v2 - the E3-1245 v2 is about your best bang for your buck, but they seem to be out of stock often and the E3-1270v2 is the perfect alternative, about 50 bucks more roughly. Passmark - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php Pair that with 16GB RAM (they support a total of 32GB, but for the games you listed you will likely run out of CPU before you use all 16GB) As long as you don’t need much HDD space, grab a nice Samsung SSD for about $150 and you will have an awesome machine for under $1k. I would also suggest grabbing a nice 1U Supermicro so you have the IPMI (KVM + Virtual Media) - you can get a half depth barebone like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101384 The E3s are also light on power which will come in handy when you colo. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:13 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
I have to agree with this suggestion. Btw you can also choose a desktop-grade CPU; so far it seems they are just as good as the Xeon Counterparts for running gameservers. As a rule of thumb, I'd go for recent-generation Intel CPUs with high clock speeds. AMD CPUs seem to work poorly with SRCDS as they are lacking the horsepower per core, especially if you intend to run servers with a large number of slots this can be a problem. Also I want to note here that depending on your location, renting a server may be cheaper - especially in the EU. I can see why you would want ownership of the hardware, but in the case the price point also matters, you may be better off with a rented server. In the US however I found the prices to be more steep making colo much more attractive. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Lane Eckley Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. August 2012 14:26 An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi Saint, I would highly suggest the E3-1245v2 or E3-1270v2 - the E3-1245 v2 is about your best bang for your buck, but they seem to be out of stock often and the E3-1270v2 is the perfect alternative, about 50 bucks more roughly. Passmark - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php Pair that with 16GB RAM (they support a total of 32GB, but for the games you listed you will likely run out of CPU before you use all 16GB) As long as you dont need much HDD space, grab a nice Samsung SSD for about $150 and you will have an awesome machine for under $1k. I would also suggest grabbing a nice 1U Supermicro so you have the IPMI (KVM + Virtual Media) - you can get a half depth barebone like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101384 The E3s are also light on power which will come in handy when you colo. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:13 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
Desktop grade CPU's hold up pretty well with the only difference normally being the ECC ram option. As a side, most SuperMicro (if any?) do not support (whether they will work or not is another story) desktop grade CPU's as well as the E3-Xeons are about the same price as the 3900 series desktop's. I cannot say it enough, make sure you get IPMI when you build and colo a server - it will save you a life of hassle and remote hands fees. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of [#OMEGA] - K2 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? I have to agree with this suggestion. Btw you can also choose a desktop-grade CPU; so far it seems they are just as good as the Xeon Counterparts for running gameservers. As a rule of thumb, I'd go for recent-generation Intel CPUs with high clock speeds. AMD CPUs seem to work poorly with SRCDS as they are lacking the horsepower per core, especially if you intend to run servers with a large number of slots this can be a problem. Also I want to note here that depending on your location, renting a server may be cheaper - especially in the EU. I can see why you would want ownership of the hardware, but in the case the price point also matters, you may be better off with a rented server. In the US however I found the prices to be more steep making colo much more attractive. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Lane Eckley Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. August 2012 14:26 An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi Saint, I would highly suggest the E3-1245v2 or E3-1270v2 - the E3-1245 v2 is about your best bang for your buck, but they seem to be out of stock often and the E3-1270v2 is the perfect alternative, about 50 bucks more roughly. Passmark - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php Pair that with 16GB RAM (they support a total of 32GB, but for the games you listed you will likely run out of CPU before you use all 16GB) As long as you don’t need much HDD space, grab a nice Samsung SSD for about $150 and you will have an awesome machine for under $1k. I would also suggest grabbing a nice 1U Supermicro so you have the IPMI (KVM + Virtual Media) - you can get a half depth barebone like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101384 The E3s are also light on power which will come in handy when you colo. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:13 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
Just make sure you get a SSD if you run multiple instances of games. Unless TF2 and CS:S will also use the new steamcmd, it is a big hit on io performance. (steamcmd only changes what is changed as far as i can tell it wont check the whole instance again on update) depending on how many machines you get i actually put most games from tf2 on 1 server, and cs:go for example on another server. If a update is coming it wont have impact on the other servers (think of 10 servers restarting because of a gameupdate which crashes the server making it grind to a halt) 2012/8/23 [#OMEGA] - K2 omeg...@gmx.de I have to agree with this suggestion. Btw you can also choose a desktop-grade CPU; so far it seems they are just as good as the Xeon Counterparts for running gameservers. As a rule of thumb, I'd go for recent-generation Intel CPUs with high clock speeds. AMD CPUs seem to work poorly with SRCDS as they are lacking the horsepower per core, especially if you intend to run servers with a large number of slots this can be a problem. Also I want to note here that depending on your location, renting a server may be cheaper - especially in the EU. I can see why you would want ownership of the hardware, but in the case the price point also matters, you may be better off with a rented server. In the US however I found the prices to be more steep making colo much more attractive. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Lane Eckley Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. August 2012 14:26 An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi Saint, I would highly suggest the E3-1245v2 or E3-1270v2 - the E3-1245 v2 is about your best bang for your buck, but they seem to be out of stock often and the E3-1270v2 is the perfect alternative, about 50 bucks more roughly. Passmark - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php Pair that with 16GB RAM (they support a total of 32GB, but for the games you listed you will likely run out of CPU before you use all 16GB) As long as you don’t need much HDD space, grab a nice Samsung SSD for about $150 and you will have an awesome machine for under $1k. I would also suggest grabbing a nice 1U Supermicro so you have the IPMI (KVM + Virtual Media) - you can get a half depth barebone like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101384 The E3s are also light on power which will come in handy when you colo. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:13 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
Hi, Thanks for the advise so far, it's appreciated!. We colo for years already so got enough experiences with the in's and out's. The reason for colo is not the price, but it's just nice to have everything in your own hands :) So, to colo or not is not a discussion :) Do you have any indication how many 24 slot servers you manage to run on the named CPU? With our current Xeon CPU's, the E5420's it's barely fitting 2 per core. Cheers, From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Lane Eckley [l...@staff.hypernia.com] Sent: 23 August 2012 14:58 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Desktop grade CPU's hold up pretty well with the only difference normally being the ECC ram option. As a side, most SuperMicro (if any?) do not support (whether they will work or not is another story) desktop grade CPU's as well as the E3-Xeons are about the same price as the 3900 series desktop's. I cannot say it enough, make sure you get IPMI when you build and colo a server - it will save you a life of hassle and remote hands fees. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of [#OMEGA] - K2 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? I have to agree with this suggestion. Btw you can also choose a desktop-grade CPU; so far it seems they are just as good as the Xeon Counterparts for running gameservers. As a rule of thumb, I'd go for recent-generation Intel CPUs with high clock speeds. AMD CPUs seem to work poorly with SRCDS as they are lacking the horsepower per core, especially if you intend to run servers with a large number of slots this can be a problem. Also I want to note here that depending on your location, renting a server may be cheaper - especially in the EU. I can see why you would want ownership of the hardware, but in the case the price point also matters, you may be better off with a rented server. In the US however I found the prices to be more steep making colo much more attractive. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Lane Eckley Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. August 2012 14:26 An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi Saint, I would highly suggest the E3-1245v2 or E3-1270v2 - the E3-1245 v2 is about your best bang for your buck, but they seem to be out of stock often and the E3-1270v2 is the perfect alternative, about 50 bucks more roughly. Passmark - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php Pair that with 16GB RAM (they support a total of 32GB, but for the games you listed you will likely run out of CPU before you use all 16GB) As long as you don’t need much HDD space, grab a nice Samsung SSD for about $150 and you will have an awesome machine for under $1k. I would also suggest grabbing a nice 1U Supermicro so you have the IPMI (KVM + Virtual Media) - you can get a half depth barebone like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101384 The E3s are also light on power which will come in handy when you colo. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:13 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] New server
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
I still have 15k Cheetah SAS drivers lying around which will be fitted into the system, but thanks for the suggestion! Saint K. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Erik-jan Riemers [riem...@binkey.nl] Sent: 23 August 2012 15:00 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Just make sure you get a SSD if you run multiple instances of games. Unless TF2 and CS:S will also use the new steamcmd, it is a big hit on io performance. (steamcmd only changes what is changed as far as i can tell it wont check the whole instance again on update) depending on how many machines you get i actually put most games from tf2 on 1 server, and cs:go for example on another server. If a update is coming it wont have impact on the other servers (think of 10 servers restarting because of a gameupdate which crashes the server making it grind to a halt) 2012/8/23 [#OMEGA] - K2 omeg...@gmx.de I have to agree with this suggestion. Btw you can also choose a desktop-grade CPU; so far it seems they are just as good as the Xeon Counterparts for running gameservers. As a rule of thumb, I'd go for recent-generation Intel CPUs with high clock speeds. AMD CPUs seem to work poorly with SRCDS as they are lacking the horsepower per core, especially if you intend to run servers with a large number of slots this can be a problem. Also I want to note here that depending on your location, renting a server may be cheaper - especially in the EU. I can see why you would want ownership of the hardware, but in the case the price point also matters, you may be better off with a rented server. In the US however I found the prices to be more steep making colo much more attractive. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Lane Eckley Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. August 2012 14:26 An: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi Saint, I would highly suggest the E3-1245v2 or E3-1270v2 - the E3-1245 v2 is about your best bang for your buck, but they seem to be out of stock often and the E3-1270v2 is the perfect alternative, about 50 bucks more roughly. Passmark - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php Pair that with 16GB RAM (they support a total of 32GB, but for the games you listed you will likely run out of CPU before you use all 16GB) As long as you don’t need much HDD space, grab a nice Samsung SSD for about $150 and you will have an awesome machine for under $1k. I would also suggest grabbing a nice 1U Supermicro so you have the IPMI (KVM + Virtual Media) - you can get a half depth barebone like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101384 The E3s are also light on power which will come in handy when you colo. Lane Eckley Operations Manager Hypernia Hosting Corp. Email: l...@staff.hypernia.com Desk: 1.305.390.2124 Desk (Toll Free USA): 1.800.284.6978 ext. 600 Cell: 1.305.308.0526 Skype: leckley01 Web: www.hypernia.com Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this transmission is legally privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you! -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:13 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise? Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds_linux] New server, CPU of choise?
There is no performance difference between same architecture Xeon and desktop counterpart. The core internals are all the same - differences are external, like memory type (ECC for reliability), ability to have multiple processors on one motherboard or size of L3 cache (this one might impact performance a tiny bit). Go with what is cheaper to buy and then later to run (power, cooling, space). As for experiences I am running 10 TF2 MvM servers on i5-2300 with total cpu use below 50%. On i7-950 I have a 30 slot TF2 PvP server - stays at ~50% (with spikes up to 70%) cpu use of one core. On 2012-08-23 14:13, Saint K. wrote: Hi, I am looking into buying a new server (we colo our servers, so own the hardware). Now it's been 3 years ago we last bought new machines so I am completely stuck in my research. I am really curious to know what the CPU of choice is here with people who own their *own* hardware and what you manage to run off these CPU's. Our current servers exist of Xeon CPU's, however, I am told that TF2/CSGO etc. servers run just as good off, for example, i7 CPU's. Please share your experiences with me! Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] New server pid on crash
We have some problems with our server. Whenever a source server crashes throughbreakpad, the server then starts with a new pid, but it does not close the old one, so then the server takes over the other server's ports, as its own is occupied by the server's old pid. Anyone know a solution to this problem Regards Michael ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server pid on crash
One solution under linux is to kill whatever is using ip:port pair just before restarting srcds server. Simple and efficient. :) Regards KN We have some problems with our server. Whenever a source server crashes throughbreakpad, the server then starts with a new pid, but it does not close the old one, so then the server takes over the other server's ports, as its own is occupied by the server's old pid. Anyone know a solution to this problem Regards Michael ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] New Server Crasher...
Not sure how many of you have encountered this script. But it has been taking my server down quite a bit lately. Just found the kid on FPSB posting his script up so here we are. Hey guys im releasing my Green Null Name Exploit (BTW SAVE THIS AS A text file) 1) now u have a .txt file u make a folder in ur c strike called testscripts 2) open the .txt and edit it to make anything you want the symbols in there between letters make the color of your name change so keep those in there 3) put the script in your testscripts folder 4) open counter strike and now join a server and put this in console Test_StartScript crash.txt only leave it as crash.txt if u dont change the name of your file. Setinfo name CaM FuCkEd Up ThE SeRvEr... retry Test_Wait .75 disconnect Test_Wait .2 setinfo name CaM FuCkEd Up ThE SeRvEr... Test_Wait .1 retry Test_Wait .75 disconnect Test_Wait .2 setinfo name CaM FuCkEd Up ThE SeRvEr... Test_Wait .1 retry Test_Wait .75 disconnect Test_Wait .1 setinfo name C a m W i n s Test_StartLoop spamcrash retry Test_Wait 0.01 disconnect Test_Wait 0.01 Test_LoopForNumSeconds spamcrash 1 Test_Wait .1 retry; Test_StartLoop crash npc_speakall Test_Wait 0.01 Test_LoopForNumSeconds crash 2 disconnect; http://www.fpsbanana.com/scripts/5196 Anyways, hope this helps some of you and maybe a script/patch can be made via sourcemod. I've already blocked the string npc_speakall via iptables but that had no effect (Not even sure if that calls any functions on the server.) I'm running CentOS 32bit and a bunch of CS:S servers. Kyle. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Server Crasher...
What the hell is Test_LoopForNumSeconds Test_Wait and why is valve adding those commands to game. You can use this to fix it: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=72354 or http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=93934 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Those commands were removed in TF2 with one of the last updates. 2009/8/23 w4rezz w4r...@zaparit.cz What the hell is Test_LoopForNumSeconds Test_Wait and why is valve adding those commands to game. You can use this to fix it: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=72354 or http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=93934 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Server Crasher...
Nice to see another person from Rin on here... Haven't been on there in ages now but still, back to the topic at hand. As I've stated above which what I thought was clear Rcon Lock does not block this. Sure it may now block the bell chars that are being exploited for the colours. But stopping the server from crashing is an entire other story... Kyle. On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:09 AM, w4rezz w4r...@zaparit.cz wrote: What the hell is Test_LoopForNumSeconds Test_Wait and why is valve adding those commands to game. You can use this to fix it: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=72354 or http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=93934 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Server Crasher...
I trought its half connected bug what is fixing this:
public Action:HalfConnected(client, args)
{
if (client == 0) return Plugin_Continue;
if (!IsClientInGame(client) || !IsClientConnected(client))
{
return Plugin_Stop;
}
return Plugin_Continue;
in rcon_lock.. anyway, you can try contact Kigen to add Test_Wait
command detection
http://forums.alliedmods.net/member.php?u=35329
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[hlds_linux] New server
I'm going to buy a new server for my 2 CS:S 32/(4) game... But I'm not sure what I'm going to buy. My new spec. will by something like: OS: OpenSuSE 10.2 x86_64 AMD 64bit x2 4800+ ~ 2,5GHz or 5000+ ~ 2,6GHz (it have to be AMD) 2GB Kingston ECC ram 1TB HDD is this okay ? or shod i look for something more power full ? sorry for my bad English Med Venlig Hilsen / Best regards Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrik.semark.dk _ Prøv nogle af de nye onlinetjenester på Windows Live Ideas - de er så nye, at de endnu ikke er udgivet officielt. http://ideas.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server
I would get a MUCH smaller HD, your just going to see issues from such a big drive and it wont really do you any good. I assume the AMD requirement is because of power, you shouldnt have a problem with the procs you suggest. Im not the biggest fan of SuSE as an OS, why not look at CentOS. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs On 8/13/07, Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to buy a new server for my 2 CS:S 32/(4) game... But I'm not sure what I'm going to buy. My new spec. will by something like: OS: OpenSuSE 10.2 x86_64 AMD 64bit x2 4800+ ~ 2,5GHz or 5000+ ~ 2,6GHz (it have to be AMD) 2GB Kingston ECC ram 1TB HDD is this okay ? or shod i look for something more power full ? sorry for my bad English Med Venlig Hilsen / Best regards Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrik.semark.dk _ Prøv nogle af de nye onlinetjenester på Windows Live Ideas - de er så nye, at de endnu ikke er udgivet officielt. http://ideas.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server
Consider CentOS 5 (It's downstream RHEL5) instead of SuSE. I'd highly recommend a Core 2 or equivalent Intel processor over the AMD offering- you'll get much better performance. ECC RAM isn't crucial for gameservers- you'd probably be best off just getting some faster sticks and losing ECC. ECC's really only useful for database servers and large-scale enterprise apps where you can't afford to have corrupt data. Henrik Dige Semark wrote: The reason I have the big hdd is that I will use the server for remote backup for my personal data :D But thnx for the quick answer If I wont to start an CS:16 to there will still not be any problems whit my proformas ? When the new server is up running, my plans was to have 2 CS:S, one CS:1,6, one Wold of Panman and one TrueCombat:elite Med Venlig Hilsen / Best regards Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrik.semark.dk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New server Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:48:13 -0400 I would get a MUCH smaller HD, your just going to see issues from such a big drive and it wont really do you any good. I assume the AMD requirement is because of power, you shouldnt have a problem with the procs you suggest. Im not the biggest fan of SuSE as an OS, why not look at CentOS. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs On 8/13/07, Henrik Dige Semark wrote: I'm going to buy a new server for my 2 CS:S 32/(4) game... But I'm not sure what I'm going to buy. My new spec. will by something like: OS: OpenSuSE 10.2 x86_64 AMD 64bit x2 4800+ ~ 2,5GHz or 5000+ ~ 2,6GHz (it have to be AMD) 2GB Kingston ECC ram 1TB HDD is this okay ? or shod i look for something more power full ? sorry for my bad English Med Venlig Hilsen / Best regards Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrik.semark.dk _ Prøv nogle af de nye onlinetjenester på Windows Live Ideas - de er så nye, at de endnu ikke er udgivet officielt. http://ideas.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Hent den nye Windows Live Messenger! http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server
At 10:39 AM 8/13/2007, you wrote: I'm going to buy a new server for my 2 CS:S 32/(4) game... But I'm not sure what I'm going to buy. My new spec. will by something like: OS: OpenSuSE 10.2 x86_64 AMD 64bit x2 4800+ ~ 2,5GHz or 5000+ ~ 2,6GHz (it have to be AMD) 2GB Kingston ECC ram 1TB HDD is this okay ? or shod i look for something more power full ? Larger harddrives have more moving parts and more rotational latency because of the size of said platters. Smaller is always going to have lower seek times, unless you get a couple of 15K RPM SCSI drives. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] New server
The reason I have the big hdd is that I will use the server for remote backup for my personal data :D But thnx for the quick answer If I wont to start an CS:16 to there will still not be any problems whit my proformas ? When the new server is up running, my plans was to have 2 CS:S, one CS:1,6, one Wold of Panman and one TrueCombat:elite Med Venlig Hilsen / Best regards Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrik.semark.dk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New server Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:48:13 -0400 I would get a MUCH smaller HD, your just going to see issues from such a big drive and it wont really do you any good. I assume the AMD requirement is because of power, you shouldnt have a problem with the procs you suggest. Im not the biggest fan of SuSE as an OS, why not look at CentOS. Thanks, Jordan Jacobs On 8/13/07, Henrik Dige Semark wrote: I'm going to buy a new server for my 2 CS:S 32/(4) game... But I'm not sure what I'm going to buy. My new spec. will by something like: OS: OpenSuSE 10.2 x86_64 AMD 64bit x2 4800+ ~ 2,5GHz or 5000+ ~ 2,6GHz (it have to be AMD) 2GB Kingston ECC ram 1TB HDD is this okay ? or shod i look for something more power full ? sorry for my bad English Med Venlig Hilsen / Best regards Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrik.semark.dk _ Prøv nogle af de nye onlinetjenester på Windows Live Ideas - de er så nye, at de endnu ikke er udgivet officielt. http://ideas.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Hent den nye Windows Live Messenger! http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New server
Why the hell do you need a 1TB to host SRCDS? - Original Message - From: Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 5:39 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] New server I'm going to buy a new server for my 2 CS:S 32/(4) game... But I'm not sure what I'm going to buy. My new spec. will by something like: OS: OpenSuSE 10.2 x86_64 AMD 64bit x2 4800+ ~ 2,5GHz or 5000+ ~ 2,6GHz (it have to be AMD) 2GB Kingston ECC ram 1TB HDD is this okay ? or shod i look for something more power full ? sorry for my bad English Med Venlig Hilsen / Best regards Henrik Dige Semark [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrik.semark.dk _ Prøv nogle af de nye onlinetjenester på Windows Live Ideas - de er så nye, at de endnu ikke er udgivet officielt. http://ideas.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] New Server Update Release?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Right now we're stuck with version 29. Is the beta any better as far as the lag spikes/mem usage go? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] new server choices - looking for input.
Im just trying to get input on these 3 choices. What would be the best for running multiple servers on? CHOICE #1 OS: Fedora Core 2 CPU : Opteron 140 RAM : 1GB RAM HD 1 : 80GB HD 7200rpm CHOICE #2 OS : Fedora Core 2 CPU : ASUS P4-2.8GHz RAM : 1GB RAM HD 1 : 40GB HD 7200rpm CHOICE #3 OS : Windows 2003 Web Edition CPU : ASUS XP2400 RAM : 1GB RAM HD 1 : 40GB HD 7200rpm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] new server choices - looking for input.
Where's Gentoo ? , go AMD no matter what. It's been much disccused that AMD runs half-life much better and with lower cpu utilizitation. Matt On Monday 14 June 2004 8:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im just trying to get input on these 3 choices. What would be the best for running multiple servers on? CHOICE #1 OS: Fedora Core 2 CPU : Opteron 140 RAM : 1GB RAM HD 1 : 80GB HD 7200rpm CHOICE #2 OS: Fedora Core 2 CPU : ASUS P4-2.8GHz RAM : 1GB RAM HD 1 : 40GB HD 7200rpm CHOICE #3 OS: Windows 2003 Web Edition CPU : ASUS XP2400 RAM : 1GB RAM HD 1 : 40GB HD 7200rpm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
